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Earnings Call Transcript 2023-09-30 For: 2023-09-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - TDC Q3 2023

Operator, Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Matt, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Teradata Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Christopher Lee, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. You may begin your conference.

Christopher Lee, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Good afternoon, and welcome to Teradata's 2023 third quarter earnings call. Stephen McMillan, Teradata's President and Chief Executive Officer, will lead our call today, followed by Claire Bramley, Teradata's Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss our financial results and outlook. Our discussion today includes forecasts and other information that are considered forward-looking statements. While these statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are described in today's earnings release and in our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K and in the Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023, that is expected to be filed with the SEC within the next few days. These forward-looking statements are made as of today, and we undertake no duty or obligation to update them. On today's call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude such items as stock-based compensation expense and other special items described in our earnings release. We will also discuss other non-GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. Unless stated otherwise, all numbers and results discussed on today's call are on a non-GAAP basis. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is included in our earnings release, which is accessible on the Investor Relations page of our website at investor.teradata.com. A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. And now I will turn the call over to Steve.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Thanks, Chris, and hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Teradata delivered another solid quarter in Q3. We continued to steadily advance in our transformation as a leading cloud analytics and data platform. I'm pleased with our market momentum and the team's consistent execution, and I'm grateful for the trust placed in us by our customers and partners. In the quarter, total ARR grew 11% year-on-year; sequential total ARR dollar growth was $14 million in constant currency with positive contributions from both cloud and on-prem subscriptions. Customer demand increased as enterprises continued to utilize our modern platform, helping them drive business-critical insights. We grew cloud ARR 63% year-on-year against a very strong Q3 last year. We grew cloud ARR in all regions through a balance of migrations and expansions. Cloud ARR is now 30% of total ARR, up 10 percentage points year-over-year. Our cloud net expansion rate was 123%. We are seeing continued strong interest and pipeline growth in VantageCloud Lake. With execution across the organization, our continued market momentum, and disciplined cost management, we delivered non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.42, which grew 38% year-over-year. I am proud of the team's performance, and I'm very pleased with our innovation that positions Teradata to lead in AI, particularly trusted AI. I'll start there. At Teradata, we believe people thrive when empowered with better information; our analytics perform with speed to deliver better insights that drive more confident decisions. While interest in AI is accelerating, a key to AI success is being able to trust the data, which has put Teradata in an advantageous position. We strongly believe that our best-in-class cloud analytics and data platform leverages harmonized data, trusted AI, and faster innovation for better decision-making. That convergence is evident in our recent acquisition of Stemma, which adds AI-enhanced data search and exploration. This is aimed to bring greater value to our analytics by making data easier to find, use, and trust. We expect that these capabilities will help Teradata deliver an enhanced user experience and advance our roadmap in data lineage, governance, and compliance, with semantic mapping to help users understand the context behind the data. Our industry-recognized strength in analytics and complex data management is driving our momentum, and we are seeing high interest in our AI/ML and advanced analytics capabilities. Enterprises everywhere are investing in AI and potentially generative AI, which will create massive enterprise value. As companies look to benefit from generative AI, we are seeing them explore use cases that are well-aligned to our core value proposition and that we are already addressing today. These include improved business performance with democratized insights from across the organization. Knowledge workers can more quickly step through mountains of data and make better decisions by asking questions in plain language without the need for complex coding. Hyper-contextualized customer experiences as organizations use analytics to better anticipate customer needs, develop more relevant recommendation engines, and create more authentic interaction to improve engagement and loyalty. And also, delivering faster product innovation; technology teams can automatically generate code, thereby accelerating innovation and reducing operational expenses. In collaboration with IDC, we recently conducted a survey of enterprise executives that validates the opportunity with AI. The survey revealed that more than half of the main 100 respondents feel a high or significant pressure to integrate generative AI within their organization in the next 6 to 12 months. However, only 30% feel adequately prepared to leverage generative AI today, indicating a significant gap that needs to be bridged. With years of expertise in the AI domain, as the trusted data platform for the world's largest and most complex organizations, Teradata stands as a go-to platform for AI enablement, which we believe provides one of the most cost-effective solutions, proven performance, and flexibility to innovate faster. Our technologies are designed to not only facilitate the AI journey but also accelerate the realization of value. We are in an outstanding position to help enterprises maximize their AI opportunity, from our cloud-native VantageCloud Lake, with its exceptional data management capability and workload efficiency, to ClearScape analytics or robust analytics capabilities in VantageCloud that make it easy for businesses to get more AI models into production faster and to rapidly scale the usage of those models across the organization. At the beginning of Q3, we announced Teradata VantageCloud Lake on Microsoft Azure. As I mentioned on our last call, our cloud-native architecture is now available on both AWS and Azure globally and offers the enterprise scale our customers need, including end-to-end support for AI and ML. We are already helping customers deploy trusted AI solutions intended to drive business outcomes. An exciting announcement in the quarter was our introduction of Teradata ask.ai, our new generative AI capability for VantageCloud Lake. This generative AI interface is designed to allow anyone with approved access to add natural language questions and receive instant responses from VantageCloud Lake, by reducing the need for complex coding and querying. Teradata ask.ai can dramatically increase productivity, speed, and efficiency for both technical and now non-technical users as well. We announced new model capabilities in ClearScape analytics, which also helps accelerate AI initiatives. These no-code capabilities enable customers to quickly scale AI and advanced analytics with enterprise governance, including 'bring your own model' now with no-code capabilities. Allowing our users to deploy their own machine learning models without writing any code, thereby simplifying their deployment. Additionally, we recently introduced powerful API integration between OpenAI and Azure OpenAI. With these large language model capabilities and ClearScape analytics, customers with large volumes of text data, such as product reviews, transcripts from call centers, or medical interactions, are enabled to transform that data into analytic outcomes. This can lead to improving the customer experience, reducing churn and risk, or preventing fraud, to name a few. These new integrations highlight our commitment to help customers unlock future value from their data by leveraging their full analytic ecosystem, including generative AI and large language models. We showcased these innovations in the quarter as we executed a series of customer and partner events in all regions. I was extremely pleased with the input from customers as we shared how they are running their business on Teradata. Along with the customer presentations and conversations at our event, it was also great to meet and speak with many prospective customers. Each event had a strong mix of prospective accounts demonstrating Teradata's increasing market traction and interest. We also had hundreds of alliance partners join us, sponsoring from Accenture to Microsoft, AWS, Dell, and more. Attendees said they were energized by how trusted AI and harmonized data can accelerate business value and power innovation throughout their organizations. During this global event series, we met with a number of external analysts. It's great that the broader community is seeing Teradata as increasingly relevant and well-positioned versus the competition. Many analysts noted that customers are telling them that our platform and innovation roadmap are differentiated and support their needs, whether in the cloud, multi-cloud, or hybrid. I was also pleased to receive positive feedback on the transformation of our brand. Our marketing organization leaned in and introduced our modern customer-centric and innovative brand that represents the trusted value we bring to the world's leading organizations. We're going to keep up the pace to ensure that our differentiated position is clear to the market. As I stated, we had very good growth in the quarter. Let's look at a few customer examples. A multinational manufacturing company based in Europe is a new VantageCloud customer. That customer spoke at our London Possible event and shared that they selected Teradata analytics to improve decision-making through AI as they work to offer safer and more sustainable products every day. It has invested with us to implement innovative AI projects that accelerate time to value for its customers. Our world-leading banking group has renewed its confidence in Teradata with its first step to the public cloud, adding VantageCloud Lake on AWS for its retail banks for sales monitoring, customer segmentation, risk management, and financial reporting. This customer also added VantageCloud Enterprise on AWS for finance and risk regulatory purposes. This win was in partnership with Accenture. We gained a new win at a government regulator in India to support its compliance reporting requirements. This is our first converged infrastructure customer win in Asia Pacific through our strategic partnership with Dell. Our track record of reliability, performance, and competitive pricing led to this win. A leading global financial services group based in Japan is using VantageCloud and ClearScape analytics to execute large-scale AI models. This long-term customer's data science team relies upon ClearScape analytics functionality for its many applications running on our platform. Along with bringing tangible business value to our customers, our partner-first momentum accelerated across our partner ecosystem in the quarter. A spotlight of our strong collaboration was educating hundreds of Accenture employees on our joint offerings to help our mutual customers exploit AI. In parallel with our global motions, we have grown our partner ecosystem by 20% year-to-date, adding new vertical ISVs and regional SIs aligned to Teradata's industry use cases. We are aligning our investment envelope to our strategic initiatives and continuing our progress as a cloud-first profitable growth company. We will continue to take actions like winding down our direct operations in China that will accelerate our growth trajectory and advance our innovation engine. We're on track to achieve our 2023 outlook. Looking ahead to 2024, we are optimistic and firmly on track to achieve our target of more than $1 billion in cloud ARR by the end of 2025.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to reinforce Steve's comments on our continued momentum and consistent execution, which ensured we delivered another quarter of solid results. A notable highlight in the quarter was our cloud net expansion rate of 123%, a sequential increase of 200 basis points. We have sustained and increased our cloud momentum as a result of greater market awareness and customer demand. Migrations and expansions have equally contributed to the reported $40 million of sequential cloud ARR growth, slightly ahead of our expectations, resulting in an increase of 63% year-over-year. Another highlight was the repurchase of approximately $141 million of stock, resulting in a year-to-date return of free cash flow of 161%. We took advantage of our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation to repurchase 2.9 million shares. We believe this was a prudent allocation of capital and exceeds our commitment to return at least 75% of free cash flow to shareholders in 2023. As we enter our seasonally strongest quarter, we remain on track to achieve the outlook ranges we previously provided for 2023. This is despite incremental unplanned currency headwinds we now anticipate in the fourth quarter. I will cover more on our annual outlook shortly. We remain steadfast on executing against our cloud-first profitable growth strategy with the goal of continuously increasing shareholder value. Let me now share more details on our financial results, starting with revenue. Third quarter recurring revenue was $360 million, a 9% growth year-over-year as reported and a 10% growth year-over-year in constant currency. Year-over-year recurring revenue growth was led by a strong increase in cloud revenue. Continued go-to-market execution resulted in all 3 regions experiencing strong cloud revenue growth year-over-year. Recurring revenue as a percentage of total revenue was 82%. There was no year-over-year impact from upfront recurring revenue this quarter as the quarterly net impact was a negative $11 million, in line with our expectations and consistent with the amount in the same period last year. We anticipate the amount of upfront recurring revenue in the fourth quarter to be a smaller net negative number than this quarter. Third quarter total revenue was $438 million, a 5% growth year-over-year as reported and a 6% growth year-over-year in constant currency. The year-over-year change is primarily due to cloud revenue, which continues to become a more impactful driver of our revenue growth. Moving to profitability and free cash flow. Teradata's reported third quarter total gross margin dollars were $264 million. The slight year-over-year increase was primarily due to the higher amount of cloud and subscription gross margin dollars that were generated by both greater volumes and rate expansion. Operating profit was $63 million, and operating margin was 14.4%. Revenue leverage and continued cost discipline contributed to operating margin expansion of approximately 150 basis points year-over-year. As we maintain cost discipline, we also continue to invest in the business, deploying capital on projects that generate attractive returns and drive future growth. These activities resulted in non-GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.42, the midpoint of our outlook range. The $0.42 includes a benefit of $0.02 from a lower tax rate in the quarter versus our prior outlook, offsetting currency and other income and expense headwinds in the quarter. The lower tax rate resulted from a favorable true-up to our tax provision and a change in assumptions, both of which will reduce the full-year tax rate to 23%. We generated $36 million of free cash flow this quarter, which was in line with both our expectations and our historical cash flow linearity. We are still on track to land within our 2023 free cash flow outlook given our anticipated fourth quarter sales bookings. Moving to our 2023 full-year outlook. We are raising our non-GAAP earnings per diluted share. The new annual outlook range is $2.01 to $2.05. This raises the midpoint by $0.05 versus the $1.98, which was the midpoint of our previous outlook. The $0.05 benefit is from a change in our tax rate assumption, all of which dropped to the bottom line. In preparation for 2024, we have taken various actions to continue optimizing our cost structure. This ensures we have the ability to invest in areas of the business that have a higher growth profile without increasing our overall budgeted costs. This impacts our GAAP earnings per share. The new annual outlook range for GAAP earnings per diluted share is $0.59 to $0.63. This range accounts for the cost reduction measures as well as foreign currency exchange actions related to Argentina that were taken during the fourth quarter. We know that our fourth quarter is seasonally the highest. Given our progress to date in the quarter and the current pipeline, we are confident that total and cloud ARR dollar growth will increase sequentially and will be within our annual outlook ranges. The continued strength of the U.S. dollar has resulted in incremental currency headwinds in the fourth quarter of approximately 150 basis points to ARR and 200 basis points to revenue versus our prior currency forecast provided last quarter. Despite these unplanned currency headwinds, our forecast indicates we will land within our 2023 outlook ranges for ARR, revenue, and free cash flow. Our complete 2023 outlook can be found in our third quarter earnings press release and presentation. Before we open up the call for questions, here are some modeling considerations for the rest of the year. For the fourth quarter of 2023, we anticipate non-GAAP earnings per diluted share to be in the range of $0.50 to $0.54. We project the non-GAAP tax rate to be approximately 26% in the fourth quarter and approximately 23% for the full year. We forecast the weighted average diluted shares outstanding to be approximately 101 million shares in the fourth quarter and approximately 102.5 million shares for the full year. In summary, we are on track to achieve our 2023 outlook. Beyond 2023, we continue to remain on track and confident on the path to achieve our financial goals for 2025. We plan to provide our 2024 outlook during our fourth quarter earnings call.

Operator, Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Howard Ma. Your line is now open.

Howard Ma, Analyst

Great. Thank you. It's great to see the consistent execution throughout the year and as well as the cloud ARR acceleration and the Q3 cloud outperformance, which lowers, I believe, the hurdle in Q4. But given that Q4 is still your biggest quarter, so it certainly isn't a walk in the park. I was hoping, I guess, either for Steve or for Claire, I was hoping you could give us an inside look into planned migrations in Q4 and perhaps 2024 as well. And I guess I have a few interrelated questions. Typically, how far in advance do these migration conversations typically begin? And what is the risk of any following through? As you look ahead, are you expecting any increase in the size of these planned migrations? Thank you.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Howard, quite a lot of impact there, but thank you so much for the question. Yes, it was a great quarter in Q3, good execution across the entire business and a really good balance of migration and expansion activity in Q3. We expect that to continue in terms of that balance between migration and expansion activities in Q4. And to your point, we have very good line of sight into execution for Q4 and a pipeline of deals that supports that 2023 outlook, driven by both migrations and expansions. As you can imagine, the migrations tend to be larger deals within the pipeline, and we've got a number of seven-figure and eight-figure deals in the Q4 pipeline. We do have good visibility over time into those deals. What we do when we construct those deals for our customers is make it commercially compelling so that migration to the cloud, even at that point of migration, they usually expand their overall business with Teradata. It's actually a commercially compelling value proposition to move to the cloud. So we've got great insight into that. We're confident in the guidance that we've given for Q4 and confident in the continued execution of the team.

Operator, Operator

Next question is from the line of Erik Woodring with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Erik Woodring, Analyst

Congrats on the really consistent work you guys have been putting up this year. I'm not sure if this is a question for Steve or Claire; I'll just kind of pose it to both of you. We're seeing really strong performance in the cloud net expansion rate. Maybe can you help us think about where that metric could go over time, meaning, are we at peak here at 123%? Could you see it go to 125%? Could it go to 115%? What factors would you expect to be the primary driver of your net revenue retention really hitting each of those extremes? Just would love to get some context on how you think about 123% versus where that could actually go? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Yes, Eric, I'll start by talking about expansions in general, and then maybe Claire can talk a little about it from a modeling perspective and how to look at it over the long term. Clearly, we're really happy with the expansions that we're driving just now, kind of up there in the best-in-class for SaaS businesses overall in terms of our cloud business. That is the reason that we like taking that on-prem business to the cloud because once we get our customers in the cloud, we start to see that growth rate. We're seeing that growth in terms of those expansions cover from increased data but also increased workloads and increased use cases that are executing on the Teradata platform once it moves to the cloud, things like our integration with cloud-native services. One I mentioned in the conference call was with Azure OpenAI as a great example of a generative AI integration. We're starting to see that as a catalyst in the marketplace. So happy with the expansions. I'll let Claire talk to longer-term guidance.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes, absolutely. So we are happy with the 123% net expansion rate. What I would say, Eric, is we are still modeling approximately 120%. So we're not modeling and we don't need to be higher than approximately 120% for us to exceed the $1 billion of cloud in 2025, for example. So at this point, the 120% and around that mark is what we continue to model and plan for '24 and '25. And it absolutely keeps us on track for our long-term goals and the $1 billion in 2025.

Erik Woodring, Analyst

Okay. That's very good. Thank you. And then maybe my follow-up for you, Claire, a bit of a picky question. I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this right. You kept most of your guidance ranges unchanged except for EPS. But you did talk to a more significant FX headwind. And so should we think about for the full year, would you characterize after 3Q your performance as outperforming and therefore still possible to hit the midpoint of that guide? Or with the new FX headwind for Q4, should we think? Should we be thinking about full-year results towards the lower end of the guide? Just want to kind of parse that out. And that's it for me. Thanks so much.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes, thanks, Eric. So as you said and as I said in my prepared remarks, we plan to be within the previously guided ranges for both reported and constant currency. So that means we're absorbing those incremental unplanned currency headwinds of approximately 150 to 200 basis points across ARR and total revenue. What that means is, I would anticipate to be around the midpoint in a constant currency standpoint of our ranges and between the mid and towards the lower end on a reported basis, just because of the incremental quarter-over-quarter headwinds that we're seeing from a currency standpoint.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Wamsi Mohan, Analyst

Steve, I was curious if you're seeing more use cases for generative AI in the cloud or on-prem. And how would you compare the relative adoption across those for Teradata? And then I have a follow-up.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Hey, Wamsi. Yes, we are super excited about the generative AI opportunity. I spoke a little bit about that in the prepared remarks. We are already seeing our existing customers utilize and deploy large language models, generative AI, AI, and advanced analytics solutions sitting on top of the Teradata enterprise warehouse. One of the things that I spoke about on the call is, we are the trusted custodians of some of the most valuable data in the world. Utilizing that data to give trusted results to these generative AI systems and large language models is part of the core value proposition that Teradata brings to the table. Our customers are executing models that sit right on top of the platform without moving data into other ecosystems. They are utilizing their trusted enterprise data to get trusted results to improve their interactions with customers or improve their supply chain. In terms of monetary impact, I think it's something that we'll continue to monitor how it's driving overall expansion activities for us, but we're very bullish on it. I think of Teradata, not as a monolithic software architecture, but as an open platform where we can integrate in some of these advanced services, which is going to drive more load as we move into the future.

Wamsi Mohan, Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Steve. And a quick one for Claire. Where are you focusing on for the cost takeout that you called out? And what does that mean for the OpEx profile in terms of SG&A and R&D? R&D has been ticking up sequentially through the year? And do you still expect to repurchase shares in Q4 as you already exceeded your stated target for the year? Thank you.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Sure. Yes, let me just take the question on the cost actions. So what we're trying to do here is look at areas where we can reinvest to be able to get a higher return on investment. We want to focus on the best return and driver of profitable growth. So we're not anticipating our total cost structure to come down because we're reducing in some areas and then reinvesting in other areas. We think that's going to set us up well, but the fact that we are making those actions now means that in 2024, we will also be able to get some revenue leverage as we move forward. So that's what we're doing from a cost action standpoint. With regards to your second question, which I didn't write down, so maybe you can remind me, Wamsi, what your second question was?

Wamsi Mohan, Analyst

Claire, regarding buybacks, you've already surpassed the year's 75% target.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes. Those with regards to share repurchases. We are not planning to be active in Q4 in the market as we were in Q3. Obviously, with the share repurchase of $141 million in Q3, that was a big quarter for us. And it was very opportunistic given where our price was during the quarter. In Q4, we will continue to be opportunistic, but we're definitely not anticipating the same level of share repurchase in Q4, but we will maintain the kind of opportunistic approach depending on where our share price is. We do really believe that this is a good use of our capital and good value and return to shareholders.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Chirag Ved with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Chirag Ved, Analyst

Congratulations on the quarter. So net new cloud ARR was strong, and with these results in mind, when you speak with your customers and prospective customers, are you getting the impression that customers today are more willing to modernize their data estates and migrate to cloud now versus perhaps 6 months or a year ago? Or do you still see some of the broader hesitation that's perhaps existed in the market for the better part of the past year that could be pushing timelines out for 2024?

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

From a customer perspective, we're observing an increase in confidence in the Teradata technology platform and our ability to successfully move the most complex workloads to the cloud. Teradata offers them a unique path for executing and migrating to the cloud that no other technology can match. Demand and pipeline strength continue to be evident, and we expect this pipeline to extend into Q4. Customers still regard cloud solutions as a top priority for investment. Recently, I spoke with a large bank that views cloud technologies as crucial for leveraging the innovative capabilities that organizations like Teradata and Microsoft offer, which will help them differentiate in the future. At Teradata, we have crafted a strong commercial offering to encourage their migration to the cloud, allowing us to grow with them as we utilize the services available in this modern environment.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Chad Bennett with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Chad Bennett, Analyst

So maybe Steve or Claire, just in terms of VantageCloud Lake and ClearScape, just now that we're, I think, close to annualizing or a year into market with these, and I understand you're on AWS and recently just came on Azure at the beginning of this quarter. How should we think about the contribution of those 2 products or platforms to fourth quarter cloud bookings or ARR or maybe a better indication is into next year? Are you expecting those to be material to the cloud ARR growth at some point in the next 3, 4 quarters?

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Hey, Chad. It's Steve. Thanks very much for the question. I think a couple of points. We've said it in the past that during 2023, most of our cloud business has been driven on VantageCloud Enterprise. We're seeing that, as you pointed out, acceleration of interest and deployment of new workloads on VantageCloud Lake. Those tend to be smaller and grow rapidly over time. So we would expect VantageCloud Lake to become more and more important from a revenue and ARR perspective as we move through 2024. During our marketing event possible in Orlando, we had a major customer stand up on stage and talk about going live and moving their on-prem system directly to VantageCloud Lake. The traction we are getting in the marketplace is super exciting, both in terms of helping with that migration opportunity and also helping with expansion. As I said, that will become more and more relevant as we move into 2024.

Chad Bennett, Analyst

Got it. And then maybe one quick follow-up. Just on a couple of the hyperscalers in their announcements recently, they mentioned kind of the headwinds from cloud customers asking for workload optimizations in the cloud. I think a couple of them stabilized their year-over-year growth or increased it year-over-year because they started to see data usage around AI and large language models in the last 3 months or in the quarter. I know you've talked about it in this call more than I've heard, and I think the majority of your customers are on fixed contracts. But if we think about kind of the workload or data usage coming from AI or LLM, is that something that you can tangibly see in your base? I don't know if it necessarily helps you from a net expansion standpoint now, but maybe up on renewal or someone getting to their caps quicker, on a fixed contract. Is there any early indications of that? Thanks.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Yes. Thanks, Chad. I think you made some great points there. One is that cloud optimization is not a trend or an impact to our business that we tend to see, given the mission-critical nature of the workloads that we execute, and both to your point, the fixed capacity nature of the contracts we have. However, all of those contracts can have the ability to have expansions and consumption ability added to them. Indeed, especially in the cloud, when we think about our net expansion rate, those expansions happen continuously. So we're very much moving away from that enterprise software sales motion, where the only time you do that expansion is at the point of renewal. We're continuously adding workloads and growing our customers as we move through the year. I think there are some great capabilities enabled by our VantageCloud Lake product to the earlier points, and these generative AI and AI use cases are going to drive that increase in utilization and the increase in the requirement for data. But not only that, Chad, I think a really important point is that those generative AI use cases, if they are not controlled from a cost perspective, can become prohibitively expensive. They need to be run in an environment like Teradata where we have fantastic financial governance. When we think about ethical and trusted AI, we consider the outputs generated from those AI solutions, but also enabling our customers to trust those AI models to operate within a financially governed environment. We'll continue to see some strength from that perspective. Ongoing expansions are expected as we move forward.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Raimo Lenschow with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Raimo Lenschow, Analyst

Congrats from me as well, another great solid quarter. Two questions. One on actually staying on AI. And Stephen, if you think about AI, how do you see yourself in this kind of new world? Because you obviously clearly have the right data; you have to trust data as you said. But are you kind of also then the place that people use to work the large language models on? What does it mean in terms of margins, gross margin aggregation, et cetera? Also in light of that, will people take your data, put it into a database, or do they get fed directly into the large language model? There's a lot of questions, obviously, at the moment because the market is evolving so quickly, but maybe you can help us there. And then one for Claire, for cash flow for the year. I like your comments about the confidence. Can you talk a little bit about or remind us about the drivers for Q4, because obviously, it's a big hurdle for the fourth quarter. Thank you.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Thanks, Raimo. Yes, we are developing native integrations for large language models and generative AI directly within our platform. This means you can utilize an API for both OpenAI and Azure OpenAI without needing to move data out. Teradata has made early investments in analytics capabilities. When we launched ClearScape Analytics last year, we included features designed for large-scale operations. Our customers can leverage these ClearScape analytics capabilities, which are significantly more advanced than our nearest competitor. They can combine these capabilities with large language models to create complex and unique use cases for deployment, all natively within Teradata through the connections provided by cloud service providers. We are really excited about this as we see it as a great opportunity for future use cases.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes, sure. I'll take the question on free cash flow. We are confident in landing within our free cash flow range of $320 million to $360 million. We're currently on track for where we anticipate it to be and have good line of sight. The big drivers that are giving us that confidence are anticipated greater income in Q4 '23 versus the prior year and also a lower days sales outstanding. We had a very high DSO last year of 74 days, which was a bit of an anomaly. The other thing that gives me confidence at this point in the quarter is that the October collections have performed better on a year-over-year basis. So that gives us good confidence for what we need to do to deliver the quarter and the full year free cash flow range.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst

Congrats on a solid result here. Steve, you've talked a couple of times in your prepared remarks about an improving brand among both existing customers and new customers. But specifically, just help quantify the new customer opportunity here. Maybe you could characterize what percent of the pipeline these prospective customers represent today versus, say, a year ago.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Hey, Nihal. Thanks for the question. Yes, we're continuing to see great traction from a brand perspective. Recognition that the Teradata technology is a great technology to deploy in the cloud. Our STI interface, which improves ease of use for the Teradata system, starts to unlock new users and new use cases, so that's super exciting to see. Our work with Accenture and the partners is starting to drive our ability to put together some great solutions. We launched an Accenture use case for the retail industry. These things are building up so that we have the capabilities to win new logos. We've seen traction for new logos both on-prem and in the cloud in Q3. We're continuing to see that grow. From a materiality perspective, these deals are smaller in size. We've characterized them as starting small and growing quickly, and we see that pattern continuing. We're not overly dependent on new logos for execution to get our Q4 number. We've got the pipeline and visibility for execution for Q4. Certainly, it's our objective to continue to grow new logos through 2024, to make that more meaningful in terms of the overall results of the company.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Matt Hedberg, Analyst

Steve, for you, maybe just stepping back a little bit. You've talked a lot about your lake strategy and obviously, from a warehouse perspective as well. Can you talk about sort of fast forward several years, how do you just see the whole debate on the warehouse versus lake shaping out kind of over the medium to kind of longer term?

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Hi, Derek, we love that question because our technology set is going to enable us to deploy the best enterprise data warehouse, the best lake, and the best lakehouse solution for our customers. We see that as convergence over time. It's an awesome time in the marketplace. As we look out in the future, we expect a lot of convergence between those deployment options. So, Matt, thank you. Thanks very much for the question.

Matt Hedberg, Analyst

Sure. And then, maybe Claire for you. On the call, you addressed this, but maybe just a little bit more color on kind of the impact of upfront recurring revenue on your revenue outlook targets for 2023.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes, absolutely. In the quarter, from a year-over-year standpoint, it was flat with last year with a net negative of $11 million. If you think about where we were quarter-over-quarter, that's an $8 million incremental net negative quarter-over-quarter. You can see that in our growth rate and the impact as you look at it quarter-over-quarter. As we think about Q4 and the rest of the year, I'm expecting it still to be a net negative impact in the fourth quarter, but slightly less than what we saw, slightly less than the $11 million in Q3, which would mean that the full year is still positive but a lower positive than we saw in fiscal 2022.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Derrick Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Derrick Wood, Analyst

Maybe, Steve, it would be helpful to get an update on your newer partner efforts, how those are tracking, and where you see new channels developing through over the next 12 to 18 months, whether it's SIs or hyperscalers or anything to call out?

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Yes. Thanks, Derrick. I'm really happy with how our partner ecosystem is continuing to develop. I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we saw great growth in that partner ecosystem, both from a consulting and SI partner but also from an ISV perspective, and regional partners are starting to come into play as well. It's great that our strategic partnerships with the likes of Dell are starting to drive business for us as well. The new logo business has been driven from an on-prem perspective, enabling us to offer a true hybrid cloud capability. We had lots of partners join us at our marketing possible events during Q3, and we received great attendance and interest in terms of the solutions that are deployed atop the Teradata system. All of those partners are clearly interested in utilizing the wealth of data within the Teradata ecosystem to fuel new analytics use cases and AI use cases as we move forward. I'm very happy with that and how the partner ecosystem continues to evolve.

Derrick Wood, Analyst

Great. And either for Steve or Claire. Just was hoping to touch on the kind of performance by geography, as I know there are different dynamics with cloud and on-prem and migration shifting, but America is up 11%, EMEA up 3%, APAC down 8%. How would you just kind of characterize the puts and takes across the major geographies this quarter?

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes. So I'll start, and then I'll let Steve comment if you have anything to add at the end. To your point, we saw strong growth in the Americas of 11% in constant currency in the quarter. EMEA is also doing well. We're seeing good traction in EMEA, especially in the cloud area. We saw 3% growth in constant currency in the quarter. APJ did decline. As we've mentioned before, we have been winding down our operations in China. All of that negative growth impact is driven by China. If you look at it without China, they were actually flat in constant currency in the quarter. We see a little less traction from a cloud standpoint in some Asian countries, but areas like Australia and some of those countries are also doing particularly well. We're very pleased with the mix across all three regions. However, we are seeing an APJ impact from China this quarter and in fiscal 2023. It's not material for a total company; it just shows up when we look at the APJ results.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Yes. Good consistent execution across all geographies and industries. Just adding on to that point from China, we've taken all of the actions there. It's tighter than all of our guidance. We've taken those difficult decisions, which enables us to focus on those strategic cloud-based revenue streams in those markets as we move forward. We have a great leadership team in place from an international perspective, and we're seeing really good execution across both the Americas and international sectors.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi. Your line is now open.

Tyler Radke, Analyst

So Claire or Steve, just starting off on the ARR performance in the quarter. I guess the sequential growth of $1 million quarter-over-quarter, how much was incremental currency headwind to the reported number relative to your last guidance? And then secondly, it did look like a pretty steep decline in maintenance and software upgrade rights as well as subscription did tick down. So is it fair to say that the bulk of the cloud sequential growth came from migrations from those ARR basis? Thanks.

Claire Bramley, CFO

Yes, Tyler, thanks very much for your question. From a quarter-over-quarter standpoint, we did actually see a $13 million negative impact from currencies. So to your point, it looks like we only grew total ARR by $1 million, but that was actually $14 million in terms of constant currency. Some of that headwind was because the ARR was down from a currency standpoint at the end of the quarter, kind of the ending rate. We did see a sequential impact on currency. And that's what we're seeing as we go into Q4 as well. We're pleased with the mix, as Steve mentioned earlier, between migrations and expansions. It was in line with what we expected. In the quarter, to your point, we are seeing software upgrade rates and maintenance decline, but that's in line with what we're expecting. We see a lot of that being either conversions to subscription or conversion straight into the cloud. We didn't get any surprises in Q3, and we're happy with how it looks for Q4, but we are seeing those currency headwinds at the end of Q3 and moving into Q4 from an ARR standpoint.

Tyler Radke, Analyst

Okay. Super clear. And it sounds like you're expressing a lot of confidence in 2025 targets, which is great to see. I guess just how should we think about kind of the linearity or the path to 2025 from 2023? Should it kind of follow a straight-line path in terms of cloud growth and free cash flow or anything to call out just in terms of incremental on 2024 versus 2025?

Claire Bramley, CFO

So yes, Tyler, we do have good confidence in the goals we previously laid out for 2025, and we're not in a position to give guidance for 2024 at this point. But by definition, we will see growth as we go from '23 to '24 to '25. So yes, we can model in growth naturally in 2024, but we're not giving guidance at this point, and I will come back to you next quarter with all the details on that. But I reiterate by saying we have good confidence in the goals we've set for 2025.

Operator, Operator

Thank you for your question. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Steve McMillan for his final remarks.

Stephen McMillan, President and CEO

Thank you. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We are really pleased with our ongoing momentum and our cloud growth. We remain committed to our strategy and are confident in driving that differentiated value for our customers and a return to our shareholders. We look forward to speaking again after Q4 and hope you all have a great year-end. Thank you very much.

Operator, Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.