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Adaptive Biotechnologies Corp (ADPT)

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Earnings Call Transcript - ADPT Q2 2022

Operator, Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Adaptive Biotechnologies Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Karina Calzadilla, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Karina Calzadilla, Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Daniel, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Adaptive Biotechnologies Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we issued a press release reporting Adaptive's financial results for the second quarter of 2022. The press release is available at www.adaptivebiotech.com. We are conducting a live webcast of this call, and we'll be referencing a slide presentation that has been posted to the Investors section on our corporate website. During the call, management will make projections and other forward-looking statements within the meanings of federal security laws regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. These statements reflect management's current perspective of the business as of today. Actual results may differ materially from today's forward-looking statements, depending on a number of factors, which are set forth in our public filings with the SEC and listed in this presentation. Joining the call today are Chad Robins, our CEO and Co-Founder; and Tycho Peterson, our Chief Financial Officer. In addition, Harlan Robins, Adaptive's Chief Scientific Officer and Co-Founder; Nitin Sood, Head of the Immune MRD business; and Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine business, will be available for Q&A. With that, I'll turn the call to Chad Robins. Chad?

Chad Robins, CEO

Thanks, Karina. Good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2022 earnings call. First, a big thank you to all our Adaptive employees for their continuous dedication and hard work in delivering another strong quarter. We're halfway through the year. We're on track to achieve our 2022 goals in both our MRD and Immune Medicine businesses. As outlined on Slide 3, this quarter, we executed important milestones and delivered key results. Revenue for the second quarter was $43.7 million, representing strong growth of 13% versus the prior year. Our MRD business, comprised of clonoSEQ clinical testing and our pharma partnerships, delivered strong performance. Clinical volumes grew 53% versus the prior year. We secured a positive coverage decision for Medicare in Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma, the most common type of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. ClonoSEQ is the first and only test to receive Medicare coverage for MRD and DLBCL. Our MRD pharma partnerships continue to grow. This quarter, we entered into yet another pan-portfolio agreement with a major pharma company. Our Immune Medicine business, comprised of pharma services, drug discovery, and clinical testing opportunities, continues to grow as we diversify into multiple applications of our immune receptor data. We experienced significant growth of 123% from pharma research partners. Our Genentech partnership is on track with both our shared and private cell therapy programs. We have made a business decision regarding the commercialization of T-Detect. Rather than launch diagnostic tests disease by disease, we are deferring commercialization until we have multiple signals with strong enough data to change physician behavior with a clear path to reimbursement. The science is working in multiple diseases, and we are confident in our long-term vision for T-Detect as a single blood test for multiple indications. However, as we look ahead, we are now focused on pharma partnering and drug discovery while we generate strong clinical utility data around our T-Detect multitest panels. Related to our corporate activities, we continue to manage expenses prudently while exploring non-dilutive financing opportunities that could extend our cash runway. Moving on to the MRD business on Slide 4. As shown in the graph, our clonoSEQ clinical testing growth is strong and accelerating quarter-over-quarter. This quarter, tests delivered grew 17% sequentially to nearly 9,000 tests with double-digit growth observed in all three marketed indications: ALL, multiple myeloma, and CLL. All metrics are pointing in the right direction. Ordering HCPs, or health care providers, and ordering accounts experienced significant growth of 53% and 44% versus the prior year, respectively. Unique patients tested grew 56%. Slide 5 shows our strategy to solidify our leadership in MRD testing for patients with lymphoid malignancies. First, the team is focused on further penetrating existing institutional accounts and increasing the activation of new community accounts with our expanded field force, which is now fully trained and deployed. 72% of the volume growth this quarter came from established institutional accounts, underscoring the potential to expand usage within existing accounts. We also grew the number of newly activated community accounts by 20%, which is a positive indicator of our sales team expansion. Another key driver of growth is blood-based testing, which has the potential to both increase penetration of clonoSEQ among clinicians and increase the number of tests run per patient. About 30% of all clonoSEQ MRD tests are performed using blood, and importantly, multiple myeloma in blood increased 33% versus the prior quarter. We plan to expand into DLBCL following our positive Medicare coverage decision. The policy is effective immediately and extends to all DLBCL patients, 75% of whom are Medicare-aged, regardless of line of therapy, treatment regimen, or testing time point. We continue to build our DLBCL evidence base to support guideline inclusion. Based on these efforts, we expect DLBCL to contribute to clonoSEQ growth in 2023 and beyond. Data continues to emerge, strengthening clinical utility and the value of MRD testing for patients. Slide 6 highlights data presented at ASCO from the Phase III determination trial for newly diagnosed multiple myeloma patients. This study was designed to assess the benefit of adding a transplant to frontline triple therapy followed by maintenance therapy until progression. An important result from the study showed that patients who achieved MRD negativity by clonoSEQ prior to maintenance had similar outcomes independent of transplant, and the authors state that the elimination of MRD is of increasing importance in tailoring treatment, in informing clinical care, and as a treatment goal given its prognostic value for better outcomes. Let's shift to our MRD pharma portfolio on Slide 7. Our clonoSEQ assay is being used in 168 active trials, representing about 21% penetration among active heme pharma trials. In multiple myeloma, we are the gold standard, almost 50% penetration. Our goal is to replicate our multiple myeloma success in NHL and CLL. This quarter, we signed a new pan portfolio agreement with a major pharma partner, increasing our eligible milestones to over $355 million from ongoing and future studies. Now turning to our Immune Medicine business on Slide 8. We have proven our ability to map T cell receptors to antigens at scale and can leverage this data for multiple diagnostic and therapeutic opportunities. To drive growth for our Immune Medicine business in the near to mid-term, we will focus on pharma partnerships and drug discovery collaborations. Clinical testing with T-Detect is expected to be a meaningful contributor to revenue in the long term once we establish T cell signatures in multiple indications that can be offered as a reimbursed differentiated diagnostic panel to patients with shared symptomatology. On Slide 9, we provide an overview of our growing Immune Medicine business opportunities in pharma and drug discovery. From a base level, T cell and B cell receptor sequencing to inform research and development continues to expand in immunoSEQ as a gold standard. Layering on our ability to map disease-specific TCRs to antigens unlocks a valuable product offering called T-MAP that is used to support our pharma partners in measuring the T cell response to various drugs, including vaccines. We are partnering on COVID and RSV vaccine programs and expect to drive additional revenue in infectious disease, autoimmunity, and oncology. Moving up the R&D value chain, immune response data can also be used as a regulated clinical endpoint with diagnostic applications. In drug discovery, we further characterize antigen-specific TCRs for target and/or drug discovery. This is the basis of our partnership with Genentech. We are increasing our focus on additional high-value drug discovery opportunities. Turning to our T-Detect clinical testing strategy on Slide 10. We have proved and validated our T-Detect clinical testing capability in infectious diseases. Specifically, T-Detect COVID achieved EUA and was key to educating the FDA about a new class of T cell-based testing. We also made T-Detect Lyme available in our CLIA lab, which enabled us to implement end-to-end and CLIA workflows and to continuously improve the algorithm. As mentioned previously, our experience showed us that the cost to commercialize and improve signals through self-pay customers disease by disease is high. Therefore, we have decided not to launch the T-Detect test until there is a clear path to reimbursement. We believe we can improve the signals to drive clinical evidence for coverage and commercial uptake by focusing on internal R&D and pharma partnering. This will allow us to drive near-term revenue and generate more signals that support the vision of T-Detect. We are confident that this disciplined approach will enable us to achieve commercial success with T-Detect as a differentiated high-value clinical test. We are excited about the multiple business opportunities that we discussed today and look forward to providing additional updates on our progress. I'll now pass it over to Tycho for a financial update.

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Thank you. Turning to our financial results, starting with revenue on Slide 11. Total revenue in the second quarter was $43.7 million, representing a 13% increase from $38.5 million in the same period last year, with 51% coming from Immune Medicine and 49% from MRD. MRD revenue, which is comprised of clonoSEQ clinical testing, plus revenues from our MRD pharma and research partnerships, was $21.3 million, an increase of 38% from a year ago. ClonoSEQ clinical testing and MRD partnerships drove approximately 65% and 35% of the growth, respectively. Within our MRD pharma business, we recognized a $1 million regulatory milestone. While we continue to see milestones from our MRD partnerships materializing and accelerating over time, these can vary quarter-to-quarter. ClonoSEQ test volumes, which include tech transfer, increased by 53% to 8,998 tests delivered from 5,897 in the same period last year. We expect similar or higher volume growth trends to continue for the remainder of the year. Immune Medicine revenue was $22.4 million, down 3% from a year ago. The change was driven by a $3.7 million increase from pharma and academic customers using immunoSEQ and T-MAP products, as well as a $1 million decrease in revenue from T-Detect COVID and a $3.4 million decrease from Genentech amortization, which, as we have noted in the past, varies from quarter-to-quarter. Shifting to our operating costs on Slide 12. Total operating expenses were $96.2 million or a 9% increase from $88.3 million last year and a 6% decrease from $102 million last quarter. Cost of revenue was $13.2 million compared to $10.8 million last year, representing a 23% increase driven mainly by a mix towards higher cost assays. R&D expenses were $37 million compared to $37.8 million a year ago, representing a 2% decrease, which was partially attributable to reduced collaboration and medical advisory costs. Sales and marketing expenses were $24.3 million compared to $23.2 million a year ago, representing an increase of 5% due largely to higher travel and entertainment and increased personnel costs from the sales force expansion, partially offset by a decrease in marketing expenses. General and administrative expenses were $21.2 million compared to $16.1 million a year ago, representing an increase of 32%. This was primarily driven by the expansion of our facility footprint with the opening of our new headquarters in the back half of 2021, as well as higher depreciation expenses and increased personnel costs. The net loss for the second quarter of 2022 was $52.1 million compared to $49.3 million last year. Now turning to full-year guidance. We are reiterating our full-year revenue range of $185 million to $195 million. Both our MRD and Immune Medicine businesses have great momentum, and we expect them to still contribute to our full-year revenues at approximately 50-50 at the midpoint of the range. For operating expenses, we now expect our full-year target to be between $410 million to $415 million as compared to our previous expectation of $425 million to $435 million. This reflects our continuous efforts in managing investments and improving operating efficiencies beyond the restructuring activities that we announced at the beginning of the year. Some of the operating efficiencies we are exploring include real estate consolidation, sequencing and workflow cost reductions, and software optimization. Importantly, we are being thoughtful about our cash, and we expect to deploy capital off our balance sheet to support operations, and we expect our quarterly burn rate to be approximately $55 million in the back half of the year. Our capital position is strong. We ended the quarter with about $450 million in cash and equivalents, which provides us with around 2 years of runway. As Chad mentioned, given current market conditions, we are exploring non-dilutive financing alternatives to extend our cash runway while also working extensively on our long-range plan, and I look forward to providing you with further details on our path to profitability in the back half of the year. With that, I'll hand it back over to Chad.

Chad Robins, CEO

Thanks, Tycho. As outlined today, we are sharpening our focus and remain disciplined with our investments as we fine-tune our path to profitability. Both our Immune Medicine and our MRD businesses have great momentum and are on track to achieve their respective catalysts listed on Slide 13. We're looking to a great second half of the year. I'd like to turn it back over to the operator and open it up for questions.

Operator, Operator

Our first question comes from Brian Weinstein with William Blair.

Brian Weinstein, Analyst

At least I don't have to fight with Tycho on who's going to get the first question anymore here. So that's a positive. Just a question for you on the sharpening of the focus here with Immune Medicine. I understand prioritizing pharma partnering and sort of discovery opportunities. So can you just talk about what led to doing this now? What really changed? Was it the costing? Was it time that it was taking for R&D? Was it recognizing the commercial path is going to be a little bit more challenging? Can you just talk about why now? And then can you also help us further understand the growth profile of Immune Medicine absent the T-Detect portion as sort of a first question?

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes. Thanks for the question, Brian. I just want to kind of put out there that we remain committed to the vision of T-Detect as a single blood test with multiple answers. However, we realized that our near-term path of commercializing disease by disease is challenging and costly. At the same time, we have this incredibly rich immune receptor data that will drive growth in our Immune Medicine business as we continue to strengthen the signals. As a matter of fact, in many of these pharma deals, we're able to leverage that data to essentially get paid and increase our signals at the same time. So if you look at the capital efficiency of being able to do that, as we're developing our long-range plan, it really came into light to sharpen our focus to say this is a much better path as we look towards profitability. Big picture, pharma is actually the fastest-growing segment of our Immune Medicine business. It's grown over 100% so far this year, and we expect it to continue to grow at very healthy rates. So while we're deferring the commercialization of T-Detect, we're going to continue to monetize what I'll call our higher-margin profile opportunities from our pharma partners using this really rich and unique immune receptor dataset. I think it's a much more efficient way to generate strong signals, and essentially, what we're doing is replacing the revenue with a higher margin profile in the near term.

Brian Weinstein, Analyst

Got it. And you guys talked about having a number of high-value drug discovery opportunities that you were looking at. I mean, is there a way to kind of give us an idea about when we may hear about some of these newer opportunities? Are these things that you would be press releasing? Are these smaller types of deals that are kind of going on behind the scenes? Just what does that pipeline of opportunities look like outside of what you've already disclosed?

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes, Brian. I think it will be a combination of press releases for deals as warranted. Quarter-to-quarter, we will share updates as appropriate based on what our pharmaceutical partners allow for disclosure. We will discuss more about the various opportunities. If you look at that pipeline slide, it really covers everything from early research to target discovery and drug discovery at the higher end.

Brian Weinstein, Analyst

Okay. And then the last one for me. Tycho, I want to confirm what I thought you said was we'll get some idea about profitability time frames and maybe even some thoughts on some of these non-dilutive options that you guys have mentioned over the last couple of quarters. Should we expect to hear something from you on that here in the back half of the year? Nothing to comment on other than that at this point?

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Yes. On profitability, it's incredibly important. We're in the midst of our 3- to 5-year long-range planning and updating that. So we'll communicate more around the path to profitability in the back half of the year, likely on the third quarter call is how we're thinking about that. And then on the financing front, yes, we've publicly said and Chad reiterated today, we're looking at non-dilutive financing opportunities to extend our cash runway starting from a position of strength. We've got over $450 million to begin with, so 2 years of cash on hand. But we're looking to shore that up, and we'll have more to talk about it when we can communicate. Hopefully sooner rather than later, but I'm not going to put a timeline on that.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Julia Qin with JP Morgan.

Julia Qin, Analyst

So to start off on the clonoSEQ business. Obviously, it's great to see you get expanded coverage for DLBCL. Obviously, we know it's a big market, like you talked about. How quickly do you think you can drive that penetration? Do you think the uptake will mirror your historical experiences with the other clonoSEQ indications? Or do you think we could potentially see faster uptake maybe benefiting from the expanded sales force? Just help us think through the near-term revenue ramp and how that might change your MRD revenue trajectory in the near term.

Chad Robins, CEO

Sure, Julia. Nitin, do you want to take a crack at that?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes. Thanks, Julia, for that question. Yes, look, we're really excited about the DLBCL coverage. It's the most common subtype of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. And as you've heard Chad say, we're the first and only MRD test for DLBCL to receive Medicare coverage. I view that as a clear validation that we continue to extend our leadership position in MRD testing for lymphoid cancers. In terms of DLBCL contributing to growth, we expect this to happen in the second half of 2023. We'll have to do the standard things that we do with all other disease types. We have to go out there and educate the physicians. We have to change physician behavior. We have to get into guidelines. I'm very bullish that we'll be able to do that as the therapy landscape for DLBCL has significantly advanced in recent years and there's a pretty large unmet need for monitoring disease progression and guiding patient care, similar to what we've seen happen in multiple myeloma recently. And we have good data. For example, recently, we published that MRD assessment using clonoSEQ in DLBCL post CAR-T treatment can be more informative than identifying patients who are at high risk of relapse. So overall, I expect the MRD business to continue to grow at or above the annual growth rate we're going to see this year but off of a higher base. The outer years we continue this growth trajectory off a higher base. In some ways, we're adding more incremental tests every year going forward.

Julia Qin, Analyst

Great. That's helpful. And then one for Tycho on the non-dilutive financing. I understand you're planning to save more details for when you're ready to talk about it. But on a very high level, I was wondering if you can give an update on the kind of deal types or deal structures you're currently exploring. What kind of conversations are you having right now? And are they going to be closely tied to your increased focus on the T-MAP business with biopharma?

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Yes. No, it's a fair question. So non-dilutive, meaning equity is kind of off the table here. From a kind of high level, we're generally reluctant to issue debt just given the nature of kind of balloon payments. So we are exploring a potential royalty-type deal. I don't want to give much more detail than that, but this is a well-established model in the therapeutic world with companies that do these kinds of royalty transactions. Those are the discussions we're having now. Still in process. No firm updates and not specifically tied to the T-MAP program. These types of things would generally be done on kind of a basket of revenues, total revenues overall.

Julia Qin, Analyst

And then a follow-up on the long-range plan. I know you're currently working on it. Without getting into the specific details, can you maybe talk about whether there are any new components to plan or new approaches you're thinking about and the visibility about pharma milestones is something you're working on? So maybe give us some color around how you would approach it.

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Yes. We're in the initial stages of mapping out revenue and considering the operational expenses needed to achieve our goals. I don't anticipate any major shifts in our overall direction. It’s mostly about continuing existing initiatives, particularly expanding the pharmaceutical portfolio and further penetrating the MRD market. Sharon, do you have anything you would like to add from the pharmaceutical immune perspective that you think is important for the long-term outlook?

Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine Business

Yes. You highlight exactly the components. Of course, we have to take into account prior books, deals, and studies, and obviously continue our business development efforts, as Chad indicated, in the different research uses or regulated uses in the future target discovery in therapeutics that add up to the revenue component as we project 3 to 5 years out.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Derik De Bruin with Bank of America.

Derik De Bruin, Analyst

So I appreciate the fact that the T-Detect landscape was a little bit more complex. But can you give us some sense of timing on when you sort of think the first products could start having some commercial benefit? I mean we had modeled some Lyme and some GI and some stuff into our models. Not a lot, but I mean, I just need to know how much of that comes out. And then also, how should we think about T-Detect COVID? Is that also going to disappear next year?

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes. I'll address the first question regarding T-Detect COVID. We plan to continue offering T-Detect COVID as it is the first and only T cell test authorized under the EUA for cellular immunity. We are collaborating closely with pharmaceutical partners on a correlative protection study, which we believe could significantly influence the current paradigm. However, it is important to note that it has not been a major revenue contributor for us; we've indicated that its financial impact is minimal. Nonetheless, this data, along with other data sources, supports our T-MAP COVID product, which is expected to generate more revenue through our partnership with pharma. Therefore, T-Detect COVID will stay available. We have decided to discontinue our Lyme offering after successfully making it available in our CLIA lab. This allowed us to establish essential infrastructure and software, validate processes in a CLIA lab, and develop a self-improving diagnostic algorithm, laying the groundwork for future launches. We are also making progress on our research related to PTLSD, which is the post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome, as chronic Lyme can be mistaken for other neurological conditions, including MS and long-haul COVID. Our ongoing R&D efforts will continue, and if the data is favorable, we can collaborate with our pharmaceutical partners on various programs across different areas, potentially generating near-term revenue.

Derik De Bruin, Analyst

Okay. But just circling back, when would be a good time to start thinking about when T-Detect would begin to contribute to the revenue, considering the revamp and reset?

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes. We're probably a couple of years out, Derik, and we'll get back to more on when we kind of roll out the 3 to 5-year long-range plan in the November earnings, but we'll have a more detailed view. We're going to let the science do the talking here and leverage that data near term. And it's a revamp, but it's really a replacement strategy. In some assets, we're kind of replacing those revenues at a higher margin profile with kind of near-term pharma. It's just a different strategy for the R&D development.

Derik De Bruin, Analyst

Okay. And that's where I was going. Do you believe these factors are sufficient to balance what you have projected in the models for the higher revenue opportunities or something that could potentially lead to even higher results in the near term?

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes. I'm going to let Tycho and Karina work with you on the models, Derik. But I think we're certainly encouraged by what we're seeing in terms of replacing revenues with a higher margin profile, quality of revenue. That's essentially what I'll consider at least paid for R&D are somewhat going to burn off some R&D from our partnerships with pharma to develop those products and get to a panel approach that has multiple indications for earlier detection at the same time.

Operator, Operator

And our next question comes from David Westenberg with Piper Sandler.

David Westenberg, Analyst

Congratulations on the impressive clonoSEQ results. I want to focus on that since it appears to be the most significant increase we've observed. Could you provide more details on what might have caused this notable change this quarter? I have a few more questions regarding clonoSEQ after that.

Chad Robins, CEO

Sure, Nitin, do you want to take that?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes, I'll take that. I think there's multiple factors. First, our sales team is fully trained and deployed out there. As we've talked about, our strategy there was to increase penetration in our existing accounts and also sign up new accounts in the community setting as well as drive penetration in blood. So we're seeing all of those factors contribute. Our existing institutional accounts are still driving growth. We saw sort of 72% growth coming from institutional accounts, but we're also increasing our contribution from the community accounts. The new accounts we're signing up are, many of them or most of them, in the community setting, and that's driving growth. We continue to see increasing amounts of evidence come out. We talked about the DETERMINATION trial. One of the big decision points for a physician treating multiple myeloma is whether to do a stem cell transplant or not. The DETERMINATION trial really helped highlight the fact that that's an important decision, and MRD can be used to make that decision. I think as general awareness in the physician community that the goal of lymphoid cancer treatment should be MRD negativity. Therefore, I wouldn't say there's one factor contributing to growth. There's a lot of things coming into play that are contributing to growth, and we expect this robust growth to continue in the subsequent years as well.

David Westenberg, Analyst

I’d like to delve into a point regarding the recent percentage changes you shared, which seem to signify a significant shift. Additionally, I have a couple of questions about NHL. Could you clarify why NHL is being approached in segments within DLBCL instead of addressing non-Hodgkin's lymphoma as a whole? I’m not an expert in oncology, so I would appreciate your insight. Furthermore, considering you mentioned this as a contributor for 2023, can you explain why this is the case, especially since many oncologists who are involved in prescribing blood cancer tests also handle T cell lymphomas, where you currently lack indication? What makes 2023 such a pivotal year? I'll leave it at that for now.

Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine Business

Yes. To answer your first question, within non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, there are multiple subtypes, each requiring a slightly different treatment paradigm and, as a result, a different evidence set that's necessary. DLBCL is about 35% of non-Hodgkin lymphoma. So we went after DLBCL first, but we will continue to tackle the rest of the non-Hodgkin's lymphoma subtypes. We're feeling confident that we'll be able to get Medicare reimbursement for those. We wanted to do it step by step because the evidence required for each subtype is different. Talking about DLBCL contributing to growth, our current DLBCL test accepts plasma. For it to be widely used, we needed to accept whole blood in Streck tubes. We've previously talked about that, and we're doing that work. We launched the Streck tube assay for DLBCL later this year. We have to do the whole education process of convincing physicians, getting into guidelines. As a result, we think it is going to take time. That's why we believe the real growth is going to kick in in the second half of 2023. Even though it's the same physician set, there is still an education process needed. The use of a blood test in MRD in non-Hodgkin's lymphoma isn't established yet. We have the evidence, the studies, the expanded sales team, and the capability to do this, but it's going to take time.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Brennan with Cowen & Company.

Daniel Brennan, Analyst

Tycho, congrats on the first call here. Maybe, Tycho, I'll start with you. So on the balance sheet, I guess the burn guide that you're targeting in the back half of the year is $55 million. That's basically in line with the prior guide, I believe, but you have lower OpEx. So maybe just kind of help me think through that a little bit. And if we were to plug in the forecast that you guys are giving, where should we be landing at year-end for cash? Is it, I think, around $200 million? Is that the right ZIP code?

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Yes. We are guiding to a $55 million burn in the back half of the year. As I mentioned, we took OpEx down to $410 million to $415 million in line with the restructuring efforts and the other initiatives I highlighted around workflow and things like that. From a cash position, yes, I don't think that's too far off in terms of where we'll be at year-end.

Daniel Brennan, Analyst

No, I just think some of the OpEx cuts might be noncash because I know that the previous burn guidance was $50 million to $60 million for the second half of the year. So CapEx is decreasing. I'm just curious if the burn reduction could decrease further, that's all.

Tycho Peterson, CFO

Look, we're trying to get more efficient every day. We've got other efforts underway to bring down the OpEx. So that's an ongoing effort and part of our long-range planning as we think about the 3 to 5-year plan. We generally try to hold OpEx if not bring it down annually.

Chad Robins, CEO

Yes, just before we do that, Dave, just on the cash question earlier, $350 million at the end of the year. I think you had said $250 million. But no, it's $350 million. Go ahead, Nitin.

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Unfortunately, access hasn't changed much in the last few months. I think it seems to be a new normal. But we are able to get hold of physicians through other channels. Therefore, we expect that to not change much in the outer years and in the second half of the year as well. I'm sorry, what was your second question?

Daniel Brennan, Analyst

It was just on the expanded commercial team. Just trying to get a sense of kind of the rate of productivity enhancements, how far along the way with that team in place now.

Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine Business

Yes. There's a long way to go in terms of increasing the productivity. This is the first quarter where the sales team was trained and deployed. It still takes 6 to 8 months for individuals in new territories to develop their territories to really understand what's going on in each territory. I expect our sales productivity to increase continuously going forward. We're quite a way away from it. I would say at least 12 to 18 months away from increasing productivity on the sales side. I don't expect us to increase our sales footprint going forward. I think we can drive a lot of increase in business with the current footprint by increasing productivity.

Daniel Brennan, Analyst

And then maybe just one more on T-Detect. So for ileal Crohn's and colitis, I know you run a fair number of samples at the presentations. So is the idea that you need to have a broader signal across more indications than just something like that, which I think those were maybe targeted to be maybe the first out of the chute? Was the idea that the commercial impact of just having those isn't going to be enough so you need to have a broader spectrum of signals? Or were the signals not strong enough in those areas? Maybe just speak a little bit to the first indication you were initially targeting and kind of how those first indications would evolve into a bigger panel.

Chad Robins, CEO

Sure. Sharon, do you want to take that?

Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine Business

Yes, absolutely. Thanks for the question to help clarify. We initiated our clinical study in IBD that covers both Crohn's and ulcerative colitis. We are aiming, as Chad mentioned, in terms of this shift and focus in a panel, which includes not just IBD from ulcerative colitis but also other GI disorders, including enhancing our signal, for example, potentially in Celiac disease, and really having a panel of, for example, GI symptomatology that T-Detect could help differentially diagnose early. That is one example of a panel, and we are still pursuing MS and neuro as a panel where our signals can also come into play for differential diagnosis. We are continuing and are encouraged by the signals that we've generated to date, and that will continue to scale in multiple indications.

Daniel Brennan, Analyst

Got it. And then maybe a final one just on kind of the outlook is could you help us think through in the context of the guidance for revenues? I know you said 50-50 between MRD and Immune Medicine. But when we think about some of the buckets within that, would you be willing to provide some color across clonoSEQ clinical and clonoSEQ pharma MRD development? The different buckets, as you report, how we should think about the trajectory of those businesses implicit in your guidance?

Chad Robins, CEO

I don't know, Dan. I don't know if we could specifically break it down. I mean, I think you can, frankly, probably back into it. If you have the ASP and the test delivered numbers, you can probably get close to it. The first cut, as you know, is you're going to kind of Immune Medicine and MRD those broad-based buckets. Over time, we may provide further resolution into that. But I think you can get somewhat of a proxy. Obviously, the milestones are kind of sitting out there and are probably harder to quantify, but we'll work with you on the model.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs.

Elizabeth Webster, Analyst

This is Elizabeth on Salveen. This is on the drug discovery vertical. And I'm just hoping you can help kind of frame the opportunity in target discovery and how much that contributes to the long-term growth.

Chad Robins, CEO

Sure. Sharon, do you want to take that?

Sharon Benzeno, Head of Immune Medicine Business

Yes, absolutely. On the heels of the signals that we are generating, we mentioned autoimmune disorders like IBD and MS. There's a lot of opportunity that we and potential partners see there in terms of really validating and discovering novel targets to then pursue as therapeutics in these diseases where there's a high unmet need. That's what we're exploring. That is the heart and soul of the TCR antigen mapping effort with our Microsoft colleagues. We're very excited to continue to pursue that and scale that and get to these novel targets that we can structure deals around discovery and licensing that could also enable some drug discovery opportunities for us in terms of TCRs against those targets or even antibodies.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Tejas Savant with Morgan Stanley.

Yuko Oku, Analyst

This is Yuko on the call for Tejas. With the DLBCL expected to make a more meaningful contribution in the back half of '23, could you elaborate on the potential opportunities on the clinical research side and whether you see that opportunity to be more near term?

Chad Robins, CEO

Sure. Nitin, you want to take the question?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes, good question. Absolutely. We are already working towards increasing our penetration in DLBCL with pharma companies. The therapy landscape for DLBCL is very rich. There's a lot of activity going on there. There's a large number of clinical trials ongoing, and our penetration in those clinical trials as an endpoint is very low. We are working with all the major players in that space, and we expect that to be a near-term revenue contributor. We've already heard from several pharma companies that they view the Medicare coverage very positively. The fact this test is broadly available for patient management is viewed positively by them, and we're already having some conversations about using clonoSEQ as an endpoint in DLBCL trials.

Yuko Oku, Analyst

Great. And then just as an unrelated follow-up, some of your peers in the industry noted they're seeing staffing shortages in hospitals and physician offices. Is that something you also run into? And if so, has it been a headwind for clonoSEQ?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes. We are seeing something similar, and we do actually see that we get some order spikes on a couple of days within a week largely because I think they are trying to accumulate orders on 2 days out of a week and send us those orders. We see that day-to-day variability. But despite that, we saw some very strong performance this quarter, and we hope to continue that in Q3 and Q4 as well.

Operator, Operator

And our next question comes from Mark Massaro with BTIG.

Mark Massaro, Analyst

I guess, congrats on the reimbursement for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Can you comment about whether or not you've received pricing on the test and how we should think about that? I think in the past, you've received a sort of a bundle for 4 tests. Should we think about that as flat to what you already have? And is it fair to think that NHL can be ordered somewhere around 2 to 4x per patient in the blood?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes. Thanks for that question, Mark. Yes, the pricing is identical through the historic pricing we received for clonoSEQ, the bundle pricing. In terms of usage, I think that's going to grow over time. Our approach is to tackle the relapsed/refractory setting of DLBCL first, which is where we think there is the greatest utility in the near term. As we build evidence and familiarity for physicians using clonoSEQ on DLBCL, it will also move upstream into frontline treatment. As more treatments come online and people live longer with these diseases, we expect the usage to increase over time.

Mark Massaro, Analyst

Okay. And I know you were asked this question earlier, but maybe just can you confirm that pricing, I think, is already effective immediately. So I guess, why won't this have more of an impact in the second half of '22? I understand that it could be small numbers in the early days. But given the size of your sales force and the fact that everyone knows what clonoSEQ is, are you just being conservative that the bigger uptake is in '23? Or maybe just walk us through why you have low expectations for the initial uptake in the first 6 months.

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes. There is a very specific reason. The current test is based on plasma. In the community setting where DLBCL is most frequently treated, the physician's capability to take whole blood, spin that down into plasma, and send plasma to us is limited. We're launching a change to the product where we will be able to accept whole blood in Streck tubes, which are similar to all the other liquid biopsy tests. That is happening at the end of the year, and we think that's going to be a limiting factor for driving growth in the second half. That being said, I want to emphasize that the Medicare coverage is for all without limitations. It covers DLBCL throughout the treatment paradigm, but due to the Streck tube limitation, we believe growth will really come in 2023.

Unidentified Company Representative, Company Representative

Mark, I'll add one comment to that because it's been said a couple of times. Our largest penetration so far is in academic medical centers, where there is a lot more specialization between leukemias and multiple myeloma, but lymphoma is a different category. In the community, there is still some specialization, but we have much lower penetration rates right now. This notion that our sales force is sufficient is what we're trying to address.

Mark Massaro, Analyst

Okay. Excellent. One last question on MRD. Your press release on NHL referred to the indication as being based on circulating tumor DNA. You've talked about how NHL or DLBCL is almost a borderline heme disorder. Have you learned anything through the development of NHL or DLBCL that leads you to believe that this may be a potential precursor into solid tumor development?

Nitin Sood, Head of Immune MRD Business

Yes, I'll address that. The ctDNA test we've developed for DLBCL essentially utilizes the same underlying technology as our DNA test from whole cells. It's very similar and builds on the years of development we invested in that assay, along with all the intellectual property protection, manufacturing controls, and operational excellence associated with it. At the same time, it also shows our ability to apply our technology to different analytes. Regarding solid tumors, that’s something we haven’t yet discussed.

Chad Robins, CEO

I'll take that one. Mark, it's a good question. It's a natural question especially as kind of new technology we're developing potentially lends itself to being able to evaluate MRD in solid tumors. From a corporate development perspective, we continuously evaluate our opportunities. That's obviously something we will evaluate amongst many other opportunities to expand our franchise.

Operator, Operator

Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.