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Earnings Call

Adecoagro S.A. (AGRO)

Earnings Call 2024-12-31 For: 2024-12-31
Added on April 28, 2026

Earnings Call Transcript - AGRO Q4 2024

Operator, Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. At this time, we would like to welcome everyone to Adecoagro's Fourth Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. Today with us, we have Mr. Mariano Bosch, CEO; Mr. Emilio Gnecco, CFO; Mr. Renato Junqueira Pereira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP; and Mrs. Victoria Cabello, Investor Relations Officer. We would like to inform you that this event is being recorded and all participants will be in a listen-only mode during the company's presentation. After the company's remarks are completed, there will be a question-and-answer section. At that time, further instructions will be given. Before proceeding, let me mention that forward-looking statements are based on the beliefs and assumptions of Adecoagro's management and on information currently available to the company. They involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions because they relate to future events and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur in the future. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions, and other operating factors could also affect the future results of Adecoagro and could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. Now, I'll turn the conference over to Mr. Mariano Bosch, CEO. Mr. Bosch, you may begin your conference.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Good morning, and thank you for joining Adecoagro's 2024 fourth quarter results conference. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA during the quarter reached $103 million and amounted to $444 million in 2024. Starting with our businesses in Argentina and Uruguay, both our rice and dairy operations presented record results. This was possible thanks to the investments made throughout the years to increase production and consolidate our asset base while being efficient in every stage of the value chain. Moreover, our vertical integration enabled us to cater to both the export and domestic markets with our large product portfolio, profiting from higher selling prices. In spite of the challenging year for our crops operations, we continued to deliver results thanks to our continuous focus on being the low-cost producer. Now we are undergoing harvesting activities for our 2024-‘25 campaign. In rice, we have already harvested over 50% of the planted area with yields above the previous year. And on the other hand, we foresee an improvement in crops productivity versus the prior season, despite the uneven weather dynamics seen on our farms during summertime. Now let's move into our sugar, ethanol and energy business. As anticipated, not only did we achieve a new crushing record, but also a sugar mix and consequently a new record in total sugar produced. Thanks to our commercial strategy, we sold our production at attractive prices. While we continue to carry over ethanol stocks waiting for the perfect timing to clear out the tanks, which indeed has arrived. Although the weather has been dry, we are currently crushing and supplying the market with our products, thanks to our continuous harvest model and the investment carried out to increase the size of our sugarcane plantation. A brief comment on shareholder distribution. During 2024, we distributed $102 million between dividends and share buybacks, $32 million more than our distribution policy. This was done without compromising our debt commitments nor this attending our growth projects, such as the cane expansion and the production of biomethane in Brazil or the development of our rice and dairy operations in Argentina and Uruguay. For this year, based on the $161 million in net cash from operations presented, we should be distributing at least $64 million via a combination of dividends and buybacks. Before passing the word to Emilio, a brief comment on ESG. As we grow the company, we are also growing our presence in the communities where our operations are located by looking for new talents to complement our business needs and to strengthen our culture. Key actions implemented include our women in agribusiness program in which we train them in how to operate agriculture and industrial machinery, aiming to consider them for hiring when employment opportunities arise. Furthermore, through our leadership program, we identified employees with potential in order to prepare them for leadership positions. To conclude, I would like to reiterate my gratitude to all our teams. Although we faced some challenges throughout the year, we were able to achieve these results thanks to their hard work and dedication. Thank you to our shareholders for your continued support. Now, I will let Emilio walk you through the numbers of the quarter.

Emilio Gnecco, CFO

Thank you, Mariano. Good morning, everyone. Let's start on page four with a summary of our consolidated financial results. Gross sales totaled $368 million during the fourth quarter, while on an annual basis, they reached almost $1.5 billion. Despite the quarterly drop in sales, annual revenues were 2% higher year-over-year on greater volumes sold, given the overall increase in production which in turn fully offset the lower prices for some of the commodities that we produce. Adjusted EBITDA reached $103 million during the quarter, marking an 8% year-over-year increase, whereas for the full-year, it amounted to $444 million. During the year, we achieved record results in our rice and dairy segments and marked operational records in our sugar, ethanol and energy business. However, results were negatively impacted by a year-over-year loss in the mark-to-market of our biological assets in our sugar, ethanol and energy business, coupled with an uneven year-over-year comparison in our crops segment due to farm sales conducted throughout both periods. Now please turn to slide five. As you can see on the upper-right chart, we generated $161 million on net cash from operations in 2024. Despite the challenges faced, cash generation across our businesses prevailed thanks to our focus on efficiencies and low-cost production together with the investments made throughout the past years. Regarding our production figures in the bottom-right chart, we can see that crushing volumes in our sugar, ethanol and energy business were up 2% versus 2023, making a new record. Higher crushing translates into higher volume and better dilution of fixed costs. In our farming division, the increase in the production of grains was explained by a significant recovery in yields after having experienced better weather conditions throughout our latest harvest season. Let's move to slide seven with the operational performance of our sugar, ethanol and energy business. Total crushing volume reached 12.8 million tons during 2024, a record for our mills. Although on a quarterly basis, our crushing was down 12% compared to the same period of last year, this new achievement was possible thanks to greater sugarcane availability given our expansion planting activities and third-party cane. This in turn enabled us to mitigate the reduction in yields driven by lower than average rainfalls received throughout the year. In terms of mix, we continued to maximize sugar production given its attractive premium over ethanol. This resulted in a sugar mix and volume production of 52.2% and 832,000 tons respectively, marking new records for our mills. Within our ethanol production, we are maximizing the production of hydrous ethanol as demand for this type of ethanol has been significantly increasing and gaining market share offering the better margin. If required, we can dehydrate our ethanol at any time. Let's please turn to slide eight, where we describe sales conducted throughout the periods. Net sales amounted to $178 million during the quarter, making a 22% year-over-year decrease. Whereas on a full-year basis, they reached $680 million, in line with the previous year. As you can see on the top left chart, the increase in our annual volume sold of sugar was fully offset by a decline in prices. As explained in prior releases, global sugar prices have come down versus the record levels seen during 2023. Nevertheless, when considering the gains related to our commodity derivative financial instruments within our other operating income line, our average selling price for the year stood at 22.6 cents per pound, compared to 23.2 cents per pound in 2023. Regarding our ethanol sales, prices have been recovering month-over-month on strong domestic consumption due to the low parity at the pump versus gasoline, even though this in U.S. dollar terms continued to be below the previous year due to the depreciation of the Brazilian real. Consequently, we continue holding on to our ethanol inventories by year-end to profit from higher expected prices. Our stocks represent 31% of our 2024 ethanol production. Moving on to energy. Throughout the fourth quarter, we used our stored bagasse to produce energy to profit from the hike in spot prices explained by lower water reservoir levels. This in turn enabled us to book sales at BRL480 per megawatt hour during the peak of the demand. On an annual basis, lower prices and a weaker Brazilian real fully offset the increase in energy exported. Regarding carbon credits, we sold annually over 600,000 CBios at an average price of $14 per CBio, making a total of $9 million in net sales. On the following slide, we explain our cash cost. Total cash cost reflects on a cash basis how much it costs us to produce one pound of sugar and ethanol in sugar equivalent. On a per-unit basis, our cash costs amounted to 12.7 cents per pound of sugar equivalent, 8% lower than in the prior year. This is mainly explained by first, a 53% year-over-year increase in tax recovery due to higher ethanol sales conducted. Second, a lower maintenance CapEx on lower renewal area. And third, the depreciation of the Brazilian real, which positively impacted our cost structure. Cash cost was also benefited by the year-over-year increase in TRS equivalent produced, which in turn enabled us to better dilute our costs. All our efforts are devoted to further enhance efficiencies to continue reducing it. As we continue ramping up operations in our cluster, cash cost will continue its downward trend. Please go to page 10, where we would like to present the financial performance of the sugar, ethanol, and energy business. Adjusted EBITDA amounted to $105 million during the fourth quarter and $364 million on an annual basis, despite presenting year-over-year gains in the mark-to-market of our commodity hedge position. Our annual results were mainly offset by year-over-year losses in the mark-to-market of our biological assets on lower Consecana prices on harvested cane. Finally, to conclude with the sugar, ethanol and energy business, please turn to slide 11, where we would like to briefly talk about the current outlook. Despite the dry weather experienced throughout 2024, we are currently one of the few players in Brazil crushing and producing sugar and ethanol. Being able to crush cane year-round even during the traditional inter-harvest period is one of our main competitive advantages. We expect a slower crushing pace during the first semester of the year as we undergo harvesting activities in cane with a limited growth potential. While we allow areas with greater potential to continue growing to be harvested during the second half with much better productivity. Therefore, we forecast a slight increase in our annual crushing figure versus 2024, assuming weather evolving normally. From a commercial point of view, the world's supply of sugar continues to depend on Brazil's production, whose cane productivity is still recovering from last year's adverse weather conditions. Consequently, we still see some upside to current spot prices, reason why we only have hedged 31% of our 2025 sugar production. In the case of ethanol, demand continues strong given the low parity at the pump versus gasoline, resulting in a recovery in prices given the limited new supply and low stock to use ratio. Our commercial strategy to carry-over inventories is paying off as we are clearing out our tanks under a much more profitable price scenario.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Now, we would like to move on to the farming business. Please go to slide 13. For the new campaign that we are currently engaged in, we have completed planting activities over 300,000 hectares under good soil moisture conditions, representing a 9% increase in planted area compared to the previous campaign. Despite the combination of high temperatures and lower than average rainfalls experienced by the beginning of 2025, precipitations received by the end of January and throughout February enable our crop production to continue with its normal course of development. As of today, most of our crops are undergoing their yield definition phase, so the evolution of the weather during the upcoming weeks will be key. We expect yields for most of our crops to be in line with historical levels. While for our rice segment, we are forecasting a significant recovery in yields due to good weather conditions and water availability during its yield definition stage. In dairy, we continue enhancing efficiencies in our free stalls, which are already at full capacity. At the industry level, we are working on product development for the domestic and export markets, while expanding our presence across the different price tiers with our consumer product brands. On the following page 14, we present the financial performance of our farming business. Adjusted EBITDA for the farming business totaled $4 million during the quarter. Whereas on an annual basis, it amounted to $103 million, in line with the previous year. Starting with our crops segment, adjusted EBITDA amounted to negative $3 million in the fourth quarter, while on an annual basis, it reached $19 million. Excluding the farm sales conducted in both 2024 and 2023, adjusted EBITDA for crops amounted to $4 million in 2024 compared to the negative $3 million in 2023. Although the segment performed better than the previous year, as we saw a significant year-over-year recovery in production, results were negatively impacted by lower international prices for our main products as well as by higher costs in U.S. dollar terms and lower than expected corn yields due to the impact of spiroplasma. Moving on to rice, adjusted EBITDA reached $50 million for the full year, making a new record for this segment. Results were driven by year-over-year gains reported in the mark-to-market of our biological assets on higher prices and higher planted area. Focusing on the quarterly figures, adjusted EBITDA stood at negative $1 million due to the higher costs in U.S. dollar terms and the decline in the price of our carryover stocks, which negatively impacted results. Lastly, adjusted EBITDA in our dairy segment totaled $8 million during the period, whereas on an annual basis, it reached record results with $34 million in adjusted EBITDA generation. Results were positively impacted by higher sales and higher prices as we improved the mix of higher value-added products and maximized the production of fluid milk for the domestic market.

Emilio Gnecco, CFO

Let's now turn to page 16 where we would like to present our capital allocation strategy. Throughout 2024, we distributed $102 million, $32 million more than the minimum stated in our distribution policy, marking a 9.4% distribution yield. This was executed via cash dividends in the amount of $35 million, coupled with the repurchase of $67 million in shares equal to 6.2% of the company's equity. In 2024, we generated $161 million of net cash from operations. Consequently, our minimum distribution amounts to $64 million during 2025. Year-to-date, we have already repurchased $10 million in shares, which represents approximately 1.1% of the company's equity. Please turn to page 17 for a broader view of our debt position. Net debt amounted to $522 million, in line with the previous year. Throughout the year, we have diligently reduced our gross debt and cash in the most efficient manner while looking for opportunities to finance our operations at the lowest cost. Consequently, our liquidity ratio reached 4.5 times versus 2.8 times in the prior year, showing the company's full capacity to repay short-term debt with its cash balances, while our net leverage ratio stood at 1.2 times. As shown in our financial figures, this was achieved without disattending our distribution policy and growth projects.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Before we conclude our earnings presentation and open the call to questions, I would like to address recent developments concerning Tether's proposal to acquire a majority stake in Adecoagro, which we announced in recent press releases. On February 14, 2025, our Board received an unsolicited non-binding proposal from Tether Investments to acquire outstanding common shares at $12.41 per share aiming to increase their holdings to 51%. Tether currently holds approximately 20.2% of our shares as per their last public filing on February the 25. Our Board convened on February 16 to discuss this proposal. We engage legal and financial advisors to evaluate the proposal's terms and whether they align with the best interests of our shareholders and the company. Subsequently, we entered into discussions with Tether and signed an exclusivity letter to facilitate further negotiations. While these discussions are ongoing, there's no assurance that we will reach a definitive agreement or complete a transaction. Having said this, please note that due to legal restrictions, we will not be able to comment further or answer questions on the Tether proposal. Thank you very much for your time. We will now open the call to questions.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. The floor is now opened for questions. Our first question comes from Gustavo Troyano with Itau BBA.

Gustavo Troyano, Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I would like to discuss two points. First, you mentioned potential upside for spot prices on sugar in the earnings release and earlier in the call. Could you share what you believe are the main factors that could lead to a positive price movement for sugar and the timeline or milestones we might expect to see this progression? My second question is about farming and crops. There have been many discussions lately regarding the import tariffs between the U.S. and other countries. I would like to hear your updated thoughts on how these changes in global trade might impact your business specifically and how you foresee these developments affecting Adecoagro's operations. Thank you very much.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Hi, Gustavo. Thank you for your question. Renato will answer on our sugar prices views, and then I will take the other part of the question. Renato?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Hi, Gustavo. Thank you for your question. We are positive about the Supply and Demand scenario of sugar. There were some disappointing crops in the Northern Hemisphere, especially India, Thailand, and Pakistan. So there is an increasing dependence on the Brazilian production in the short-term. And it seems that the Brazilian center-south crop, the next crop that starts in April, is going to be smaller than last year. This is a consequence of a difficult first semester that probably is going to have as a consequence of the drought and the fires in the sugarcane areas of last year. The weather in the center-south region in February is very dry, and the temperature is very high now, which is affecting sugarcane yields. And also the sugarcane area is a bit lower than last year due to a higher replanted area that occurred last year. So considering this scenario, Brazil will have to keep maximizing sugar and sugar will have to be traded at an attractive premium over ethanol. So our strategy, since we have a tax rebate in Mato Grosso do Sul, is to have 18 cents per pound get close to the ethanol parity. So our strategy is to gradually increase our hedges if the price moves higher than 19 cents per pound. Today, we have 31% of our production hedged at 20.7 cents per pound.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Thank you, Renato. And regarding your questions about farming or crops prices, we think that for soy and corn basically, that is only a portion of our sales when we talk about the farming and a relatively small portion. We do see a benefit for the South American soy and corn production because of the tariffs and the commercial war that is going on. So that's a benefit for the South American production. And you can see that on the basis that have already improved, and we believe that this will continue to happen and will be even more stronger. Furthermore, for us, it's very relevant what's going on with rice and dairy also. Rice and dairy production, we compete in some places with some U.S. rice and because of some specific type of rice that we are producing. So we also see a benefit there as we are entering into some new markets in Central America, etc. So we are taking some benefits of today's prices in these products also.

Gustavo Troyano, Analyst

That's super clear, guys. Thank you very much.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Thank you, Gustavo.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Matheus Enfeldt with UBS.

Matheus Enfeldt, Analyst

Hi, good morning, Mariano, Emilio, Renato, Victoria, thank you for your time. My first question is about the midterm implications and uncertainty surrounding the Tether offer for the company. I would like to inquire about the offer itself, but I'm particularly interested in when you expect to have more clarity to share with the market, especially regarding timing for the next steps. Additionally, how have these discussions impacted management's near-term priorities and time allocation? My second question pertains to sugarcane crushing. You mentioned a slight potential increase in sugarcane volumes for 2025. I'm curious about any constraints on raising crushing levels—are they primarily weather-related? If we had ideal weather, would reaching 40 million tons have been feasible? Also, considering third-party cane, is there potential to maintain a higher level in order to enhance crushing, perhaps suggesting a more optimistic outlook than the slight increase projected for 2025? Those are my two questions. Thank you.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Okay. Thank you, Matheus. I'm going to start with your second part of the question. I'm going to ask Renato to answer that question and I will complement if necessary. Renato?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Hi, Matheus. Last year, the weather was very dry, about 32% lower than the historical average. To achieve a record of 12.8 million tons, we need to progress with the sugar cane that will be crushed in the first quarter of this year. Consequently, we will have a slow and less intensive quarter for crushing in this initial period. We are currently selecting sugar cane with lower growth potential for immediate harvesting, allowing us to reserve the more promising sugar cane for later in the year. We anticipate that the situation will improve in the second half of the year as we will be crushing a significant amount of 18-month sugar cane that was planted last year. However, this is contingent upon favorable weather conditions moving forward. When considering all factors, we have approximately 13 million tons of sugar cane available for crushing; however, the initial phase will be quite slow. Thus, the main challenge will be maintaining an adequate crushing pace from April to December. Regarding third-party sugar cane, half is contracted and part of our routine supply, so we will continue to crush this year. The other half was an opportunistic acquisition we made last year from local mills facing industrial issues that limited their crushing capacity. Assuming normal weather this year, we don't expect to need additional sugar cane, as we have enough of our own. However, if conditions worsen, we will explore the best options to optimize our crushing, especially since we won't have third-party sugar cane available to acquire in the first quarter when we need more.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Thank you, Renato. Just to complement, as Emilio was saying at the beginning, we've been having in the last 18 months, a 30% less rain than average. So the climate is playing or the dry weather is playing against the overall availability of cane, just to summarize what Renato just expressed in all details. Then going to the second part of your first question, sorry, Emilio will comment on this.

Emilio Gnecco, CFO

Yes, Matheus, thank you for your question and I apologize, but the company does not intend to comment further on market speculation or disclose any developments until it otherwise deems further disclosure is appropriate or required. There's no assurance that we will reach to definite agreements or complete a transaction. Nevertheless, we continue operating under absolute normal conditions and always focus on delivering results and creating value for our shareholders.

Matheus Enfeldt, Analyst

Okay. Thanks for the questions.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Isabella Simonato with Bank of America.

Isabella Simonato, Analyst

Hi, good morning everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to follow up a little bit on the dynamics of prices of sugar and ethanol, but more specifically on ethanol, because you guys mentioned in the release you believe parity will go back to 70%. If you could just elaborate a little bit more on which context and timing for that. And if it's mostly due to the fact that Brazil will crush less, maximizing sugar, but how you guys are looking at the supply and demand of ethanol since we haven't seen the parity reaching that level for more than a year now? Thank you.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Thank you, Isabella. Renato will comment on this question. Renato?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Hi, Isabella. The demand for ethanol is still very high. So the monthly demand for ethanol is 3 billion liters of ethanol. If you take only hydrous, it's close to 2 billion liters of hydrous. The part that the pumps is still favoring ethanol, but it's almost at 70%, today is at 68%. The current inventories are sufficient for 1.8 months of consumption compared to 2.2 months last year in the same period. So the situation is tighter. As a consequence, prices are higher year-over-year. If you're taking real terms, it's 32% higher than the same period of last year. And depending on the delay in the new crop, it seems that it is going to be difficult to have high crushing volumes in March. I think the price can go even higher and surpass the 70% parity. So our strategy now is to keep selling our ethanol at the current price, which is good. We expect to sell everything that we have in our tanks by the end of the first quarter. And just remember that we are still producing ethanol because of the continuous harvest production model. We are having a less intensive core in terms of crushing, but it's still crushing and producing ethanol.

Isabella Simonato, Analyst

But I mean, when we look at the beginning of the season right now in April and May, do you think this is still possible? I mean the parity holds on even given the seasonality and the fact that we have a big concentration of ethanol production in the short-term.

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

I think the fact that the next center-south crop should be smaller and more sugar-oriented, the consensus is that the center-south crop is going to be 600 million tons with a 52% sugar mix. If you take into account this reduced 2.7 billion liters of ethanol when compared to last year, and then we have the increase in the blend that should be announced soon, which adds more 1 billion liters of ethanol in demand, plus the auto cycle. So if you take it out in consideration, this is much more important than an increase in the supply that came from the corn ethanol, which is approximately 1.5 billion liters. So I think the scenario for ethanol for the next season is very positive, and I think the parity rate should be higher than the ones that we saw last year.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Isabella, but having said this, we are selling, as Renato said before, we are selling the current stocks. All our current stocks are being sold now. So in the middle of the season, the price would probably go down compared to today. But on average, we are expecting what Renato just explained very clearly.

Isabella Simonato, Analyst

That's clear. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Larissa Perez with JPMorgan.

Larissa Perez, Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. I would like to ask Renato if he could give us some color on his expectations of margins on the sugar and ethanol division 2025, especially if you could elaborate a bit more on key cost components beyond sugar cane, that will be great. Thank you.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Renato?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Hi, Larissa, we believe that the production costs will be quite similar to last year's in real terms. In dollar terms, I anticipate they will be about 5% lower. Some components are increasing slightly while others are decreasing a bit. Labor costs are expected to rise in line with inflation, and the Consecana part of leasing will go up due to improved ethanol prices. Conversely, there are some crop protection inputs that are decreasing. Overall, when you consider everything, costs should remain similar in real terms but a bit lower in dollar terms.

Larissa Perez, Analyst

Yes. That's clear. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Julia Rizzo with Morgan Stanley.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Hello, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I would like to follow up on Larissa's question regarding production costs. This year saw a significant decline, and one of the reasons mentioned in your initial comments was the higher sales of ethanol benefiting from some tax credits. Can you elaborate a bit more on whether the reduction in production costs was a result of selling a lot of ethanol? Is it due to the combined production since you were holding inventory and selling a lot? How would the production cost look with the tax credits normalized for the production mix? I hope my question is clear; I want to understand the recurring production cost with a mix of 52% sugar and 48% ethanol.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

Thank you, Julia, for your question. Renato, do you want to answer?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Hi, Julia. If I understood correctly your question, I'm not sure if I got your point, but the mix of this year should be similar to the mix of last year because we are still maximizing sugar. So we expect a mix close to 52%. So we don't see a change in the tax credits affecting our costs. So, considering this scenario with a similar mix and tax, costs in reals are going to be similar, and in dollars slightly lower than last year.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Yes, okay. So I think you answered my question. My question is that more related to how you manage to calculate your production costs if you get the credits, taking in consideration the amount of the volumes that you sell during the year, because sometimes you have some inventories carryover from one year to the other. Or if you take into consideration how much of ethanol you produce?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

No, the ethanol that we sell during the year. That's the way that we do the calculation.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Okay. So you sold more ethanol in 2024, a lot more than in 2025, right?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

Yes.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Because you were holding inventories that kind of helped. And for the next year, you expect to sell the same amount of ethanol.

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

I think it's going to be about the same amount, but we have to wait to see what the dynamic is of the market.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Okay. Thank you for that. And also on the production cost, I have a follow-up because one of the things that I noticed was the expansion in the harvest area and also in the expansion area. For a long time, I wasn't seeing you growing like this. Can you go over a little bit about how the costs of those expansion in terms of leases, agriculture, and in connection to that, what is the outlook for CapEx for this year?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

We were able to lease some strategic farms in our region, which has improved the average distance from the sugar cane to the mill. The quality of the soil and the topography of these areas are also better. These farms have a higher quality, allowing us to use fewer inputs, and they used to be used for grains, making it cheaper to plant sugar cane there. We expect an improvement in our planting costs over the next few years, which will be reflected in the planting of these areas. This is why we have increased expansion planting. Regarding replanting, although the drier weather has negatively affected sugar cane yields, the condition of our sugar cane is very good in terms of nutrition, pest, and weed control. There are some areas where we believe adding more fertilizer and planning another harvest would be beneficial despite the poor weather, as the treatment of the sugar cane has been effective. The conditions for the sugar cane are acceptable, although it certainly needs water, which is why we decided to treat those areas and crush them again.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

But what was the plantation cost, the expansion cost of this new area and the outlook for CapEx given the increase in the area? And how can we translate that in milling?

Renato Junqueira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP

The planting cost of those areas in this region is about BRL13,000 per hectare, which I would say is like 15% lower than areas that we were leasing some years ago.

Julia Rizzo, Analyst

Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the question-and-answer section. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to Mr. Bosch for any closing remarks.

Mariano Bosch, CEO

I just want to thank you all for your continued support, and we hope to see you in our upcoming events.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's presentation. You may disconnect at this time, and have a nice day.