Earnings Call Transcript
BALL Corp (BALL)
Earnings Call Transcript - BALL Q2 2020
Operator, Operator
Greetings and welcome to the Ball Corporation second quarter 2020 Earnings Call. This conference is being recorded on Thursday, August 6, 2020. I will now hand it over to John Hayes, our CEO. Please proceed.
John Hayes, CEO
Thank you, Kelly, and good morning, everyone. This is Ball Corporation's conference call regarding the company's second quarter 2020 results. The information provided during this call will contain forward-looking statements. Actual results or outcomes may differ materially from those that may be expressed or implied. Some factors that could cause the results or outcomes to differ are in the company's latest 10-K and in other company SEC filings, as well as company news releases. If you don't already have our second quarter earnings release, it's available on our website at ball.com. Information regarding the use of non-GAAP financial measures may also be found in the Notes section of today's earnings release. The release also includes a table summarizing business consolidation and other activities, as well as a reconciliation of comparable operating earnings and diluted earnings per share calculations. In addition, the press release financials include descriptions of new segment reporting for our EMEA and other non-reportable segments. Now joining me on the call today are Scott Morrison, our Senior Vice President and CFO; and Dan Fisher, our Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of our Global Beverage. I'll provide some introductory remarks. Dan will discuss the global beverage packaging performance and trends. Scott will discuss key financial metrics, and then we will finish up with comments on our aerosol and aerospace businesses, as well as our outlook for the company. Second quarter results were strong and candidly came in stronger than we expected, which is just another proof point of the long-term resiliency of our various businesses. At a time that the world experienced the worst economic and social crises in our lifetimes, our second quarter and year to date comparable diluted earnings per share increased 2% and 12% respectively. And we're driven by our North and Central American beverage business, where improved commercial terms at our manufacturing performance, increased volumes in the absence of metal scrap headwinds all contributed to a very strong quarter. Dan Fisher will elaborate more on our other beverage segments in a moment. But over the course of this quarter, sequential monthly improvement in each of our packaging segments improved from the lows we experienced in late May and early April. North American beverage can demand continues to outstrip supply. And despite the initial pandemic-related demand impact in Europe and South America, demand in these regions has accelerated meaningfully since these regions began to reopen in mid-May. And our beverage can business in each region is sold out in advance of new capacity coming online. We are encouraged by the start-ups of our new lines in Fort Worth, Texas and Rome, Georgia. And the rest of our growth projects around the world remain in good shape. During the quarter, global beverage volumes were down 3% with low single-digit growth in North America, unable to offset weak volumes in April and to a lesser extent, May in both South America and EMEA. However, we did experience much stronger year-over-year growth in the month of June, about which Dan will elaborate more later. In our aerospace business we continue to see strong growth with quarterly year-over-year revenues up 16% and our won-not-booked backlog of 10% since first quarter 2020. We did experience, however, a $13 million reserve for the failure of a key subcontractor component in a large classified program that more than offset an otherwise strong quarter. We expect this to be a one-time event and believe our supplier and our program team have the issue isolated and under control. Other highlights in the quarter include our aluminum aerosol business was down slightly for the quarter after customers took anticipated downtime and increased demand for sanitizing sprays were unable to offset lower demand for deodorants. We continue to make progress on our aluminum aerosol manufacturing plant acquisition in Brazil. We expect this transaction to close in the third quarter. Construction and hiring for our first dedicated aluminum cups manufacturing facility remains on track. Despite the current attendance restrictions at major sporting, music and other events, our outlook for 2021 is perhaps even a bit stronger than when we began the year as we have accelerated our retail go-to-market strategy with the signing of a number of various letters of intent executed with both retail partners as well as venue operators. Starting this fall, consumers will be able to purchase our cups on major online platforms, which will then feed into more presence in the physical stores as our production capabilities ramp up towards the end of this year. During the quarter, we announced our national partnerships with Acosta and Blue Ocean, thereby positioning the Ball aluminum cup for retail success. Across our businesses year-to-date, we've hired over 1,000 new employees and invested approximately $450 million in growth projects that we and our investors will enjoy in the years ahead. Now before I turn it over to Dan and Scott, I do want to give a big shout out to all of our colleagues here at Ball for caring for one another and for living our culture. Your dedication and hard work to support our customers, our communities and the global economies where we operate is second to none. And true to Ball fashion throughout this crisis, our company and employees have provided millions of dollars of financial support to over 300 organizations in the local communities in which we live and operate. At the same time, these same people were able to continue to execute successfully our strategy, grow our business, control the things we can control, and invest in our future. So a big thank you. In summary, Ball has adapted well to this new environment. Despite contractions in some of our markets early in the quarter, we exit the quarter with good momentum and are excited to bring additional capacity online as quickly and safely as possible and continue to believe that the overall strength of our businesses will allow us to grow operating earnings in the second half of this year and beyond. We also want to extend our well wishes to everyone, our customers, our suppliers, our first responders, our governments, and indeed all of our stakeholders who are persevering through all of this and we wish all of you listening continued safety and good health. And with that, I'll turn it over to Dan.
Dan Fisher, COO
Thanks, John. I also want to thank our employees, customers and supply chain for their collaboration to maintain our industry's ability to serve consumer demand. In addition, our HR leadership and our environmental health and safety professionals continue to keep our Ball family safe and vigilant about our well-being as communities, offices and schools began to open up. Looking forward, and given the increasing demand for sustainable aluminum packaging, it is going to be an exciting beverage can market for the next several years. To bolster the growing demand for aluminum packaging and true circularity, we recently published our peer-reviewed lifecycle assessments and biennial sustainability report. Visit ball.com/sustainability to learn more about what Ball is doing to advance the circular economy in its operations and across our industries while also supporting diversity and inclusion initiatives. As we discussed on the first quarter call, consumer behavior varies by region. In North America, consumers are able to access multiple shopping channels, stock up and store bulk packages of our products. In late March, this led to a surge in beverage can demand as those occasions that occurred in the on-premise and convenience channels shifted to the at-home or off-premise channels. Following March, volumes being up 12%, April slowed a bit, then returned to single-digit growth in May and June. Demand is continuing to outpace supply and inventory levels are low. In particular, year-to-date through July, we have seen IRI can demand in the non-alcoholic category growing 11%, domestic beer of 4%, and includes up 13% in the second quarter, craft growth of 20%, and FMBs up in the range of 80% to 90%. As we look forward, we're thankful that our new line in Fort Worth started up a couple of weeks ago, and that our new Rome, Georgia beverage can line is on track to start up next week. In advance of those lines and our two new plants coming online in early 2021 for Glendale, Arizona, and in mid-2021 for our Northeastern plant, our global plant network outside of the U.S. will supply additional cans when possible. For the full year, we anticipate North America beverage can growth of at least 4% with half of that growth coming from inventory drawdown and imports. In EMEA segment, volume was down nearly 8% for the quarter as borders remained closed. Tourism was restricted and shopping hours were limited across many countries through much of the quarter. During the quarter, strength in the U.K. and Russia were unable to offset softer demand in southern Europe, Egypt and Turkey. Across Ball’s EMEA business, demand trends improved late in the quarter with April volumes down 11%, May volumes down 16%, and then June volumes up 4%. This positive momentum continued into July with volumes up mid-single digits. Additional capital projects across Europe continued and we foresee European beverage can volumes up low single digits in 2020. In South America, after seeing a nearly 60% decrease in Brazilian can shipments in April due to the temporary closing of smaller grocery stores, gas stations, and convenience stores, our demand rebounded sharply up 7% in May, and the progress continued in June with volumes up nearly 40%. Beverage cans have been very resilient, with store owners leveraging recyclable aluminum cans over other substrates. Exiting the second quarter package mix for beer on the shelf was 70% cans versus a rate of 50% at the end of the first quarter 2020. Following discussions with customers, we anticipate that can mix on the shelf will remain high beyond 2020. And we intend to move forward with previously discussed line additions in Brazil. From a segment operating performance perspective, Ball's North American segment earnings were up 34%, more equitable customer contracts, operational improvements, and volume growth benefited the quarter. Partially offsetting this were hiring costs associated with the new manufacturing lines ramping up in the second half of 2020, and unfavorable mix associated with certain can sizes sold through the convenience store channel. Our initial plans to add 6 billion units of capacity in our North American business by the end of 2021 have been adjusted upward following recent contract discussions. We proceed fully scaling out our new facilities in Arizona and in the Northeastern U.S. sooner rather than later. As of today, our capital growth projects are on track and earnings growth is expected to continue across North America in 2020 and beyond. In our EMEA segment, negative demand trends resulting from the pandemic, lower absorption and FX headwinds pressured segment results for the quarter. Our EMEA team’s close customer approach and support from our North American business position the business for strong second half performance. Turning to South American segment, second quarter earnings were down primarily driven by the abrupt contraction in Brazilian demand early in the first half of the quarter, which led to lower absorption over multiple weeks. Similar to our EMEA segments, our team's close approach to customers will bolster second half results. In our other non-reportable results, the company's Myanmar, Indian, and Saudi beverage can manufacturing results continue to be dampened by production downtime. In addition, other includes an annual $20 million P&L investment to stand up our aluminum cup business. As John referenced earlier, we are on track with our aluminum cup plant construction, and our push into retail is gaining steam. In summary, global beverage can demand was very resilient during the second quarter, and momentum is building for the third quarter and beyond. Thank you again to all of our teams around the globe. 2020 has provided us all with unprecedented challenges and you've risen to the occasion time and time again. Your leadership has been nothing short of remarkable. Keep it up and stay safe. With that, I'll turn it over to Scott.
Scott Morrison, CFO
Thanks, Dan. Comparable second quarter 2020 diluted earnings per share were $0.65 versus $0.64 in 2019. Second quarter comparable diluted earnings per share reflects strong North American beverage segment results, a lower share count, and lower corporate costs offset by lower EMEA, South America, and aerospace results due to the short-term demand and supply chain impacts. Due to the pass-through of lower aluminum costs and the 2019 sale of the Argentine steel aerosol business and Chinese beverage can assets, and lower second quarter packaging demand outside of North America. Revenues for the second quarter were down. Ball's balance sheet is healthy and we have focused near-term on maintaining ample liquidity and flexibility in the current environment. Year-to-date, we experienced our seasonal working capital build which was more sizeable than typical, due largely to the timing of metal payments. As a result of this timing and ongoing growth initiatives in raw materials supplied to support them, we anticipate the full-year 2020 working capital investment to be utilized in the range of $300 million, which is slightly higher than previously anticipated due to accelerating growth conditions. As we sit here today some additional key metrics to keep in mind. Our full-year effective tax rate on comparable earnings will be in the range of 18%. Full-year interest expense will be in the range of $270 million and full-year corporate undistributed cost recorded and other non-reportable are now expected to be in the range of $55 million. Our 2020 cash from operations will continue to be strong. We will be investing in working capital and even more growth CapEx to expand aerospace facilities, beverage can production capacity, while also completing construction on our first aluminum cups manufacturing facility. Contrary to past sizeable M&A deals, Ball is embarking on a multiyear phase of internal investments to serve organic growth for beverage cans, and support new contracted volumes. At this point, 2020 CapEx will likely exceed $900 million and 2020 free cash flow is expected to be in the range of $400 million. Ball has always been focused on being good stewards of our cash and prudently balancing real-time growth opportunities with consistent return of value to our shareholders. Given our strong cash flow, we are managing the business appropriately for the long term, investing capital with an eye on EVA returns, managing our balance sheet effectively and consistently returning value to our long-term shareholders. With that, I'll turn it back to you, John.
John Hayes, CEO
Great. Thanks, Scott. Our aluminum aerosol business saw global volumes in the quarter decline 6% driven primarily by flat volumes in North America, single-digit declines in Europe, and strong double-digit declines in India as a result of multi-week country lockdowns and regional fillers downtime. Looking ahead, we're excited to expand our aluminum aerosol business's geographic reach into South America and expect the acquisition of the Tubex facility to close in the third quarter. Our aerospace business reported approximately 16% revenue growth and lower than expected segment earnings due to its supply chain issue on a key fixed price project. Adjustments to testing schedules have been made, and the items necessary from the supplier are forthcoming. The team has done a good job managing the process with our customers despite difficult circumstances. Looking ahead, the growth trajectory of this business is even stronger, with won-not-booked backlog reaching $5.3 billion. In addition, our year-to-date aerospace headcount has increased by nearly 450 employees, and we anticipate hiring an additional 550 employees by year-end. Our HR team has done a great job onboarding these new employees and running our summer internship program remotely. In this business, we continue to enhance our infrastructure, build out testing and manufacturing facilities in 2020 and ensure all projects are on track and on budget. Current indications reflect that the business will be able to grow profitably in excess of 15% per year over the next several years, given the scale and type of recent contract wins. In summary, Ball continues to be uniquely positioned to lead and invest in sustainable growth in global aluminum, packaging, and aerospace while delivering significant value to our shareholders. As we sit here today, our ability to grow comparable diluted earnings per share in 2020 is higher than previously thought. Our teams will do everything possible to outperform while being keenly focused on working safely and executing capital investments. Beyond 2020, we look forward to driving our business to deliver long-term diluted earnings per share growth of at least 10% to 15% and achieve our EVA dollar growth goals of 4% to 8% per year on our growing invested capital base. Especially during these times we're thankful for one another and the opportunities in front of Ball for an even brighter future. Lastly, as a reminder Ball will host its Bi-Annual Investor Day on October 6th. We look forward to your attendance at this virtual event. And with that, Kelly, we're ready for questions.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Our first question comes from Anthony Pettinari with Citi. You may proceed with your question.
Anthony Pettinari, Analyst
Good morning.
John Hayes, CEO
Good morning.
Anthony Pettinari, Analyst
I think you indicated you’re sold out in all your major regions exiting the quarter. And I'm wondering if it's possible to quantify maybe how much volume you may have left on the table, either in 2Q or potentially for the year. And then just a related question. Is it possible to say what quantity of cans you might export-import cross region in 2020?
Dan Fisher, COO
Yes, I think it's difficult to answer what did we leave on the table. I think clearly in Europe, negative, almost 8% growth that should have been in the 3% to 5% growth range. So I would steer you in that direction. And then for South America, again, we should have probably grown in the mid to high single digits for the quarter. And we were obviously a little shy due to the April decline. We're probably importing in terms of it's all North America support, I would expect for the year somewhere in the neighborhood of a 2 billion cans. One billion of that is coming from places that typically wouldn't be shipping from, Europe, India, Brazil, for instance. And then where we can get some relief and we benefited from that in the second quarter, specifically in Mexico, as kind of the brewery industry was deemed non-essential. We were able to use some of our excess capacity in Mexico to ship up. So that's sort of how I would frame where those imports are coming from.
John Hayes, CEO
Yes, but Anthony, how many more could we have sold if we had the capacity? That's a difficult question to answer. We don't know. Dan pointed out some IRI statistics, and just in the second quarter alone, carbonated soft drink cans were up 14%, big beer cans were up 14%, and total FMBs were up nearly 150%. Those are significant categories and very strong. We clearly have not been able to keep up with that since we did not anticipate it. As Dan mentioned, our inventories are at all-time lows. We have been importing as many cans as we can. I realize that doesn’t answer your question about how many were left on the table, as it’s too challenging to determine. However, I believe it highlights many of our long-term investments due to the growth we're witnessing. Yes, some of this growth is related to stay-at-home orders, but much of it is still tied to the sustainability initiatives we've discussed over the past couple of years.
Anthony Pettinari, Analyst
Okay, that's very helpful. And then you talked about some benefits from new contractual terms, and I'm wondering if it's possible to put any finer point on the contribution from that. Does that roll through over a number of years, if these are multiyear contracts? And understanding, you're probably limited in what you can say. Can you give any color in terms of how these terms are different than maybe conventional or legacy contracts?
John Hayes, CEO
This has been well described in the past. And I'm not going to say other than what we talked about. We normally don't talk about these things. But we did have a number of contracts renew at the end of 2019. And we had told people that the phasing on some of these new commercial terms would probably be multi-year. It's not just one year. And so that's about all we can say right now.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Neel Kumar with Morgan Stanley. You may proceed with your question.
Neel Kumar, Analyst
Great, thanks for taking my question. You mentioned fully scaling out the North American capacity additions in Arizona and Northeastern U.S. Can you just give us a sense of how much incremental capacity is expected to be added in North America versus the six million units that was initially planned? How do you think about the ramp in this capacity from the start-up of the facilities in mid-2021?
Dan Fisher, COO
Yes, it's all going to be dependent on executing contractual negotiations and we will continue to update that number for you as those things become more firm. And it's clearly reliant on execution, hiring employees, and ramping up lines. But got to have contracts on the back of it, and some of those contract negotiations are still ongoing.
John Hayes, CEO
But the two new facilities were built. And remember, we're scaling them that they have the capability of being the biggest in our system.
Neel Kumar, Analyst
Okay, that's helpful. And then we recently saw an announcement that a new entrant is coming into the U.S. market. What impact do you see on market dynamics from the announcement? And what level of demand growth do you think is necessary over the next several years in the North American market for it to remain balanced, given all the new industry capacity that's been brought on?
John Hayes, CEO
Yes, we've discussed this before. To summarize, the market consists of around 100 billion cans. This year, growth has been significantly higher than the 4% to 6% we previously mentioned. While it's uncertain whether the growth has been 8% or 10%, we've missed opportunities due to cans left unproduced. This could mean an additional 8 billion to 10 billion cans in just one year. Although this year is unique, we believe that moving forward, growth will trend closer to the higher end of the 4% to 6% range, which translates to about 6 billion cans annually. This is why we're increasing our growth investments. As we've noted before, this is a growing and scalable business that, if managed correctly, can yield good economic returns. It makes sense that others are interested in it. However, the overall market growth is more than enough to accommodate this added capacity. With our extensive network of over 20 plants, we have multiple options compared to smaller competitors with only a few options.
Neel Kumar, Analyst
Thanks. That’s helpful.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. You may proceed with your question.
George Staphos, Analyst
Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I want to piggyback on some of the questions from Neel and from Anthony to extent possible. Again, recognizing you're not going to be able to really quantify or maybe even enumerate, can you talk to whether with your customers in North America or anywhere else, given what they're seeing in terms of demand, and your need to supply more capacity or being willing to accept more creative terms, different terms and maybe what was even put into contracts in '19, any desire or willingness to maybe share some of the risks and costs to make sure that capacity is on the ground when the demand is there anything that you can talk to on that question?
John Hayes, CEO
Yes, I believe that is an accurate depiction of where we are right now. There are a number of categories and a few customers, George, that are viewing this as a real opportunity to grow for the first time in years. And those customers and those categories are being aggressive. They want to move quickly. And yes, we are having any number of much more creative discussions with those folks. It's not everyone, but certainly you can imagine in the seltzer categories and when you see big beer and non-alcoholic categories growing at this rate that's a real opportunity for some of our customers to step into some growth profiles that they haven't seen in a while, and they're using the can and innovative packs to do that. And yes, different dialogues are certainly happening right now as a result. And George just to give you an example, we've talked about this in the past, but historically, at least in North America, many of these larger contracts are based on requirements that you'd have to fulfill 100% of the requirements of any given filling location. And over the last couple of years, we've restructured that, because all the risk was then on us to the upside and the downside, quite honestly. So what we've restructured that as think of it more as a fixed amount plus or minus window, call it a 5% window, 10% window, whatever is agreed to. And they've got to take those cans, and if they need more cans, then it's a separate discussion. And so the most important thing we're trying to do though, is make sure we can fulfill as much of the can demand our customers are seeing. And I think because of COVID it caught everyone off guard a little bit. People knew the growth. We've been talking about this growth for several years and there were some customers that were more understanding of it than others. But I think this overall shift of premise has been a great help for us. But it's also pointed out the fact that making sure that you have your supply chains in good order are important. So we're trying to keep up with our customers as best we can.
George Staphos, Analyst
Okay, thanks for that guys. Two questions and I’ll turn it over. To the extent that the capital spending has continued to move higher, I mean we understand the logic why, because of the demand that you see that you're trying to meet. Is there a way to I don't know quantify or qualitatively talk about return you expect to get on what these incremental spending numbers look like relative to what had been perhaps the base capital spending the last few years ago or whatever $500 million $600 million? And then on aerospace and correct my number there if it's wrong on what the base number had been. And then on aerospace if you could talk a bit further, I realize it was a project in the black. But can you talk a bit about what the issue was in terms of the subcontractor? Why you believe it's resolved and should we expect the earnings for aerospace to continue and what had been the trajectory you were expecting third quarter and beyond? Thank you, guys, good luck in the quarter.
Dan Fisher, COO
Yeah George, let me take the first part on the returns and then I’ll turn it over to John on the aerospace one. We are still first and foremost an EVA company so any capital we’ll put in the work; we have to get 9% over within the first three years of putting that capital to work. These projects are better than average because they tend to be a higher percentage of specialty cans than standard containers. So we're going to like the returns on these projects over the course of the next several years. And so I would say, our return profile’s gotten better and compounded with the growth that we're seeing. So I think we're in a pretty good place and frankly spending $900 million, the faster we can get some of these assets up and running, the faster we can enjoy the returns on.
John Hayes, CEO
And George with respect to aerospace, we had a test failure of a key component from one of our sub-suppliers. It was late in the program's life. As you know that when you're building a program like this you assemble everything and at the tail end, you test everything. Well we had a failure of one of the key components there which pushed out the delivery date and therefore costs us money related to re-working the problem and getting a new part from the supplier as well as our marching army cost if you want to call it that, keeping the program team intact and moving it out in this case approximately six months or so. As I said in the prepared remarks, this was a one-time event. This is very few times that things like this happen but they do happen from time to time. But I think both our supplier as well as our program team have the issue isolated and under control. So even despite that, you would see even with that they had a pretty good quarter but without that they had a very good quarter and we expect, as I said as we march forward to have 15% or more earnings growth in that business.
George Staphos, Analyst
All right. Thank you, guys, good luck in the quarter.
John Hayes, CEO
Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Arun Viswanathan with RBC. You may proceed with your question.
Arun Viswanathan, Analyst
Great, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to start by asking about Europe. Can you share your thoughts on the business there? It seems to be a different situation regarding the opportunity for pantry loading. How are you approaching the European volume for the second half and for next year?
Dan Fisher, COO
Yeah. We think that in the prepared comments we exited June as border started to open up and as folks were able to get out of their house, can consumption picked up and we were on a growth trajectory exiting June year over year. And we expect that to continue to build at this rate obviously, have to preface that with we don't know what's going to happen with a second wave of COVID etcetera. But right now, we're anticipating to end the year despite being down 8% in the second quarter with slight growth for the year. And that means that the second half has to be up fairly appreciably in the mid to high single digits.
John Hayes, CEO
It's interesting to note that for the second quarter in Europe, beer can sales increased by 10%, while soft drink sales declined by 17%. Although soft drinks are generally a larger category, this trend makes sense considering that all the pubs were closed, leading people to consume more beer at home. On the other hand, a significant portion of soft drink sales comes from on-the-go convenience channels, like kiosks at the beach, which were also closed, resulting in a decrease in those sales. Many of these channels are now reopening, as Dan mentioned.
Arun Viswanathan, Analyst
That's helpful. Thanks, John. I have a related question. Have you considered changes in consumption habits? It seems that as people return to in-person consumption, bars may prefer holding bottles and cans instead of kegs since they're uncertain about their sales rates. Does that impact your business? Additionally, you mentioned the shift of new beverages into cans, increasing from 35% a few years ago to about 70% last year. Have you observed continued growth in that trend? Could you also share your thoughts on the long-term outlook for new categories in beverage cans and the changing consumption habits among customers? Thanks.
Dan Fisher, COO
For the first part, I really wish I had a sociology degree to capture the changing behaviors and consumption patterns. However, discussions with several customers indicate they believe that cans will definitely benefit in the medium term from the trend of more people working from home. This shift affects dining and food service experiences, leading to an increase in packaged products and cans. Additionally, we think there’s potential for growth rates to improve beyond what we shared six months ago. These are early signs, and many customers are still figuring out the specifics, but overall, it suggests a greater demand for cans and packaged goods. Regarding your second question, we are still seeing cans gaining popularity. For instance, in South America, there was a significant increase in the pack mix within the beer category. We are also witnessing growth and a shift towards cans in North America, remaining above the 70% mark. I don’t anticipate that trend slowing down soon. The innovations we’re hearing about and the brands moving into cans appear to have solid momentum, and I expect to see modest increases over the next three to five years.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. You may proceed with your question.
Ghansham Panjabi, Analyst
Hi, guys. Good morning.
John Hayes, CEO
Good morning.
Ghansham Panjabi, Analyst
So John, back to your favorite topic on North American capacity additions. If we total up the announcements by you and your peer groups over the next couple of years or so. It looks like capacity will be added in the mid-teens in terms of units up 100 billion base. And obviously, the industry is seeing very strong growth at current. But can you just give us a sense for how long the contracts typically are from a duration standpoint, specific to the new capacity you as the industry leader are kind of bringing on at this point?
John Hayes, CEO
Every customer and conversation is unique. However, I would emphasize that we tend to focus more on the long-term perspective, as this has been our approach for a long time. Many of you have been following our journey, especially reflecting on our past efforts in South America when we were establishing new plants. This long-term mindset is similar to what we're applying now. It’s important to note that the numbers mentioned will not be implemented all at once; these are gradual ramp-ups that will occur over time. While I agree with the figure you've cited, it probably reflects our expectations over the next three years. Additionally, considering the growth rates we're experiencing, I could argue that there may be a shortage in the can market in 2022 or 2023. The current environment is very dynamic, and we remain committed to making the right long-term decisions for our company, shareholders, and customers.
Ghansham Panjabi, Analyst
Thanks for that perspective. And then second question on the beverage packaging segment for North America, North and Central America, I should say. Can you help us with the operating profit bridge between 2Q of this year versus last year? Were there any temporary savings that perhaps in play to that margin that could reverse as business normalizes, or is that not the case?
Dan Fisher, COO
Well, the absence of the scrap that we had last year, but the business is operating better. The manufacturing performance is better. We're making every can that we can possibly sell. So absorption is good. But beyond that, there's nothing that's that unusual year-over-year. I would say the scrap is probably the biggest absorption.
John Hayes, CEO
At the beginning of this year, we discussed the year-over-year changes and the need to improve our commercial terms. We acknowledged the absence of scrap and mentioned the challenges related to the startup costs of new projects. Overall, everything is unfolding as we expected. The only positive surprise is that our operating performance has exceeded our plans for 2020. Our manufacturing team is doing an excellent job, despite the pressures of a tight market and the influx of new capital. They are managing to perform better than we anticipated.
Dan Fisher, COO
What more startup in the back half of the year as these other plants are getting closer to fruition too. So I wouldn't take the second quarter as being kind of a normalized number. It was exceptionally good.
Ghansham Panjabi, Analyst
Thanks so much.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Mike Leithead with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.
Mike Leithead, Analyst
Great, thanks guys. Good morning. Two on the imported cans in North America. You mentioned in the release about needing to ship cans in from Europe, which I can imagine isn't cheap. So I guess first, I know contract pricing is annual, so does that incremental cost fall on Ball or its customers? And second, how do you think this evolves as we head into '21 versus this year? Because I assume as you're starting up plants here in the U.S., you can get cans to customers for cheaper while transferring some of that value hopefully to your own P&L.
Dan Fisher, COO
We're allowing customers to take product at our facility, and they are responsible for the trade, so we aren't exposed there. As John mentioned, we're transitioning a lot of our contracts from requirement contracts to fixed volume contracts. This means we're not accountable for shipping those cans or absorbing the costs, which leads to more equitable contracts and relationships. Currently, those without an on-premise revenue stream are looking to enhance their income with off-premise products, and they are willing to pay for that additional expense. Moving forward, the challenge we face is analyzing our IRI data. We believe the growth we experienced in the second quarter and year-to-date holds promise, regardless of the COVID situation. Sustainability continues to spur new product launches, and cans are a key factor in this growth trend. While there will be an influx of capacity coming online, it all depends on how effectively we manage and execute on those startup curves. Over the next two to three years, I expect there will still be a reliance on some imports, likely not as much as this year, but 2021 is likely to remain very tight. We will continue to refer to imported cans for at least the next 12 to 18 months, and beyond that, we will have to see how things develop.
Mike Leithead, Analyst
Great, that was helpful. And then just one on the aluminum cups, particularly as you're shifting it more into a retail focus right now. Can you talk about the potential price point for your cups relative to a standard solo cup? And I'm assuming both you and your retail partners have done a bunch of consumer market analysis as you're preparing for this launch? So can you just talk about what your observations so far have been and their excitement around the product?
John Hayes, CEO
Yeah, why don't I take a first stab and then let Dan chime in. Just let me take a step back too, because it's important to remember. Our strategy all along was kind of getting to the venues first create awareness and then follow-up through the retail because that's where the size of the prize is really on the retail side. The bad news is because of COVID, many of those venues were shut down. The good news is we did a tremendous amount of research and testing and we realized that the awareness is already there. In fact, many people when they have already seen them are very well versed of its attributes and its positive attributes. So as we go to the retail channels and sell it, there's two observations I’d point out. Observation number one is, we don't have to quote sell it, because we can feel the demand being there. And number two, I don't think it's as much of a relative to a plastic cup as we thought it was. This is a whole new product with a whole different proposition. And as a result, a whole different price point. And so I'm not going to get into right now about what the various price points are. You will see them in the near future when you see them on the shelf, but they are going to be a premium to what's out there today because consumers have told us they're willing to pay a premium for this product.
Dan Fisher, COO
Some of the more specific conversations we've had in and around the cup that may help you at least on the retail side is almost universally the folks we're talking to view this as innovation and that in and of itself creates a very different discussion and dialogue in terms of the process to get it in the store, to get it on the shelf and the price point. And they're leaning, in many instances, these retailers are leaning on a lot of the research we've done to look to us to what the appropriate price is. So that's been very favorable. And the other thing that's been really exciting is some of the larger retailers have a real focus on reducing their plastic in store, and this is a wonderful opportunity for them to do that. And so those are the learnings, the biggest learnings and the biggest takeaways that might allow you to have a little perspective on maybe the success we may be having or are gearing up for as it relates to that product. The other thing, we're doing more and more and you'll see it as we go through 2020. But particularly in 2021 is more on the marketing side as well, creating awareness for this. I give our sales team, Dan, the rest of his team a tremendous amount of credit. We're being very creative things that candidly we haven't done in the past, but creating awareness for that that's going to actually help maintain the price position we’re aiming for.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Brian Maguire with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed with your question.
Brian Maguire, Analyst
Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just put it up better understand the raised CapEx. Look, I don't think you were announcing any new lines or new locations or capacity with it. So is it just simply pulling forward some of the investments you would have otherwise made next year? And then as we think about looking into 2021, should we expect CapEx to decline meaningfully? And related to that the working capital build this year? Do you have any initial thoughts on where working capital might go next year more investments to support the growth or do you see it flattening out a little bit?
John Hayes, CEO
I think the pace of CapEx is really pulling forward as much as we can, because we see the demand is there now as Dan talked about being short can. So the faster we can get these assets up and running, the better. So some of that is pull forward. I think as you look into next year, I think these growth percentages, if they're going to continue at this kind of pace. We'll probably spend more capital than what we had originally anticipated in 2021. But we're also making a lot more money. On the working capital front, the growth from where I said previously for this year is due to that acceleration of the growth. I think next year it'll stabilize somewhat. But I could still see a small use of working capital next year, but it's too early to tell.
Scott Morrison, CFO
And Brian, the only thing I'd add to that is, well, on one hand, we didn't announce any new capital. In fact, we did, because what Dan said was, we are going to accelerate the buildout, the ultimate build-out of our plants in Arizona and Northeast U.S.
Brian Maguire, Analyst
Okay, so to interpret that initially there were a certain number of lines and then…
John Hayes, CEO
Correct.
Brian Maguire, Analyst
Potential room to build more lines, and we're going to have those second phase plans at this point?
John Hayes, CEO
That's correct.
Brian Maguire, Analyst
Makes sense. Just one additional question, if I could. Was there any impact on the U.S. margins from mix in the quarter? I know you talked about some shipping maybe to the more club stores in the multi-packs which does have a material impact on mix. And then any thoughts on restarting the share repurchase program now that seems like the macro is kind of lifted a little bit of the thought for your ability to forecast the business.
Dan Fisher, COO
I'll take the first part of those questions. It wasn't a material impact. But yes, we did have some dampening of margins because the convenience store channels with a higher specialty mix and higher price points for our customers. That was down a bit, especially in April and the first part of May. Not entirely sure that's all going to come back, just depending on return to work, at least for the next six months. And what folks are going to do in the U.S., the less frequently you’re driving, the less frequently you're stopping in and a convenience channel. And that was certainly a difference in terms of behavior pattern that dampened our mix a bit in the second quarter.
Scott Morrison, CFO
Then on the share buyback front, we're going to continue to return significant value to shareholders with over $200 million in dividends this year. We bought some stock earlier in the year. And we'll see how the year progresses and are not ruling out buying some shares in the back half of the year.
Brian Maguire, Analyst
Great, thanks very much.
John Hayes, CEO
Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Our final question is from Phil Ing with Jefferies. You may proceed with your question.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Hi. This is actually John dialing in on behalf of Phil. How are you guys doing?
John Hayes, CEO
Good.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Congrats on the strong performance. I just had one question, I guess related to some of Dan's comments on packs mix shift. Particularly you had noted the shift in grocery. I think you said 50% beer was in cans in 1Q and then it moved to 70% this quarter. I was just hoping you could talk about, kind of what caused that, was that mostly driven by people not wanting to go to the stores and get a reusable glass bottle. And what you think is the actual stickiness in the longer term for picking up that share of the shelf. And then in the release they've also talked about an acceleration of substrate mix towards cans in EMEA. Maybe you can also discuss what's driving that and how that is going to be held on to it in the longer term as well.
Dan Fisher, COO
Sure. Regarding your question about South America, there are a few important points to consider. For the past three to five years, we've observed that smaller retailers throughout the region have been hesitant to stock returnable glass due to its perishable nature and limited shelf space. These areas tend to have smaller stores, gas stations, and a strong focus on convenience, where retailers are increasingly demanding cans. I believe this trend will continue. Additionally, in many South American markets, there is a leading returnable glass competitor. When they start losing market share to cans, they will eventually choose to shift towards cans. This combination has already been seen in Brazil, and I expect it to persist in the future.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
And do you just think that was also accelerated because of the pandemic, the users don't want to hold?
Dan Fisher, COO
Absolutely.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
On that actual returnable graph and now the big shift, particularly in 1Q outside of obviously the trend that you've been seeing for a while.
Dan Fisher, COO
Yeah, when the on-premise is closed, the incumbent that is relying on returnable glass, they either fight with cans or they lose in share. And I would suspect that they have made such a conscious effort on that front and the retail movement is a lot bigger of an issue I think than what a lot of people have discussed previously. So I think that’s sort of here to stay, whether it's 70% this quarter or 65% next, it's appreciably going to be higher moving forward. Yeah in Europe, I think we're seeing, as John referenced, we’re seeing and we will continue to see is pubs and on-premise is less and less open. There’ll be more cans pushed. And typically I think because of the sustainable nature of the package and I spoke to move into filling those cans. And if they have success with that, I think it'll be a boon to what level and what extent in the medium and long term that's yet to be determined. But I would certainly assume that it will be a lift for us moving forward.
John Hayes, CEO
The situation regarding beer in Europe hasn't been a problem. The challenges lie primarily with non-alcoholic beverages, particularly energy drinks and soft drinks, which are usually sold for immediate consumption. This segment has been weak, although there are signs of improvement. However, it is likely to remain soft due to the decline in tourist activity in Europe compared to last year, as we are all aware.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Understood, thank you and good luck in the quarter.
Dan Fisher, COO
Thanks.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Mark Wilde with Bank of Montreal. You may proceed with your question.
Mark Wilde, Analyst
Thanks, I've got just a couple of them real quickly. Can you talk about any bottlenecks that you may be encountering either from co-vendor from just equipment suppliers being stretched as you ramp up, because there are a lot of can projects around the world? And the other one, John, we've seen some different numbers out there for kind of recycling and recovery rates on aluminum beverage cans. And I wondered if you could just share your perspective on those rates in the different regions around the world.
John Hayes, CEO
Yeah, so let me try to quickly take both of them and maybe Dan can chime in. Let me talk about not only just beverage can, let me talk aerospace as well. All of our projects, our folks have done a herculean job to make sure that they're all on track. There's a couple in Europe that we slowed down. There's one in particular down Brazil that we consciously slowed down, just because the volatility of those markets we restarted them up. But kudos to our folks here in North America, whether it’s that cups filled out, whether it's Fort Worth, whether it's Rome, whether it's all the building we're doing up or we are here in aerospace, all of them have been doing extremely well. And that requires very close collaboration and communication with the very supply chain, whether it’s equipment suppliers, whether it’s construction companies, etcetera. So no impact on that for us other than the things that we consciously chose to slow down and have now restarted. Second with recycling, we can spend hours on this. What I might refer you to and we can be happy to take it offline because we had addressed this very directly, because it varies by country, it varies by region and the stats for each of the countries and regions are different. But if you go to our new sustainability report at, and I think Dan mentioned ball.com/sustainability it will all be laid out there in a very transparent way and we'd be happy to engage with anyone on this, because I think that's what continued success of the beverage can means. We have to continue improving the already good recycling rates because from an LCA perspective, it positions the can even stronger relative to PET and relative to glass.
Mark Wilde, Analyst
Okay. Just one other one for me on the capital spending. So I think Dan mentioned this that the practical size of these two new plants may be bigger than anything else you've got here in the states, I think now typically we think of kind of four lines as about the biggest beverage can plants out there. Is there any kind of practical limit size of a beverage can plant that you would want to put in? I mean could it be six or seven?
John Hayes, CEO
It could, but remember then you've got to factor in shipping. And you could make it all in one place and ship it thousands of miles and lose all that money to the freight company. So there's a balance. But theoretically, you could build something as big as you want, just because you've got to look at where you're supplying.
Mark Wilde, Analyst
So what is the practical limit, do you think, John?
John Hayes, CEO
It depends by region. In the Northeast, for example, Northeast and Southwest, where we're talking about doing this, a population that's where the biggest and/or growing the fastest. So it makes sense if you were to say to do it in Iowa wouldn't make sense. So it very much depends.
Mark Wilde, Analyst
Okay, I'll turn it over. Good luck.
Operator, Operator
And our final question is from Gabe Hajde with Wells Fargo Securities. You may proceed with your question.
Gabe Hajde, Analyst
Good morning, gentlemen. I hope everyone is doing well.
John Hayes, CEO
Yes. Thank you. You too.
Gabe Hajde, Analyst
I want to come out the U.S. question from a little bit of a different angle. I know you guys don't typically talk about utilization rates, but I've heard the term fallout from virtually everyone. So I'm assuming that somewhere in the upper 90s. And I think maybe safe utilization you guys have talked about before where you feel comfortable is something more 95%. And so if I take a differential of 3% that implies that maybe you guys have already made 3 billion cans more than you otherwise would from higher utilization rates. And if you're bringing in as an industry 2.5 billion unit, you're actually short 5.5 billion such that this 15 billion, 16 billion units of capacity coming to the market is actually not that big of a deal. Is that what you were trying to get out John before in terms of building a case?
John Hayes, CEO
Yes, as an industry, we shouldn't forget that some of our competitors have added new capacity over the last 18 months, which has benefited them. However, you are correct that we are operating at full capacity. Consequently, I believe your strategic thinking is on the right track.
Dan Fisher, COO
The only other lever that you did not indicate is working with our customers on lowering safety stock levels. So that's the other lever where you can get more volume up.
Gabe Hajde, Analyst
Okay. And then I guess transitioning over to Europe, you mentioned in the release that you're adding multiple lines to support market recovery as well as capacity for North American market. And I'm assuming that wasn't the intent necessarily when these lines were planned. So I guess does that imply sort of a protracted recovery in Europe? And I'm trying to marry that up. I thought I heard you say Dan, kind of mid to high single-digit volume growth in the back half of the year. And then as a quick follow up to that, as I guess energy production migrates across different parts of the globe, does that free up some capacity for you guys next year as that ramps up?
Dan Fisher, COO
Yes, I believe the 5% to 8% growth for the second half of the year in Europe is accurate. It's still uncertain how the energy drink market or the convenience channel will recover. Some companies will adjust their distribution based on where they can sell their products, so you may notice more multipack options appearing in retail compared to convenience stores.
John Hayes, CEO
Yes, I just want to clarify about our capital. We are not investing in Europe to export to the U.S.; this is for long-term growth in Europe. This includes growth we have observed in the U.K., Russia, and parts of Eastern Europe. Additionally, regarding energy, some customers are not moving their operations from Europe to other regions. Instead, they are expanding in other areas while maintaining their presence in Europe because they recognize the growth opportunities available.
Gabe Hajde, Analyst
Thank you, guys. Good luck.
John Hayes, CEO
Okay, Kelly, do we have any final questions?
Operator, Operator
No, we have no further questions at this time, sir.
John Hayes, CEO
Okay, great. Well, thank you, Kelly, and thank you everyone for your participation. Everyone, stay safe, stay well. And we look forward to hopefully seeing many of you virtually at least on our Investor Day on October six. Take care.
Operator, Operator
That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.