Earnings Call Transcript

COMPASS Pathways plc (CMPS)

Earnings Call Transcript 2021-12-31 For: 2021-12-31
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Earnings Call Transcript - CMPS Q4 2021

Operator, Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the COMPASS Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Steven Schultz.

Steven Schultz, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you for joining us today for our fourth quarter and full year 2021 results conference call. We hope you've had a chance to view the press releases issued earlier today covering our results. Again, my name is Steve Schultz, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations at COMPASS Pathways. Today I’m joined by George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Guy Goodwin, Chief Medical Officer; and Mike Falvey, Chief Financial Officer. The call is being recorded and it will be available on the COMPASS Pathways' investor relations website shortly after the conclusion of the call. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that during the call today, the team will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. Actual events or results could differ materially from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statements as a result of various risks, uncertainties and other factors, including those risks and uncertainties described under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and in subsequent filings made by COMPASS with the SEC. Additionally, these forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views at any subsequent date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. I'll now hand the call over to our Chairman and CEO, George Goldsmith.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Steve and welcome everyone. Let me begin by welcoming Mike Falvey to his first COMPASS quarterly results call. Mike joined our team in December and has a track record in building strong financial teams and valuable experience in launching and commercializing products. This experience will be important as we work to bring our COMP360 psilocybin therapy through clinical trials, regulatory approval and ultimately to patient access as a reimbursed therapy. I will begin today's call with a business update on our recent progress. Guy will talk about additional data from the Phase 2b study and our open label study with SSRIs, and Mike will provide a financial review. We will then open the call to questions. In the fourth quarter of 2021, COMPASS Pathways made significant progress toward our goal of accelerating patient access to evidence-based innovation in mental health, with the successful completion of our Phase 2b trial with COMP360 psilocybin therapy in treatment-resistant depression or TRD. This trial is the largest randomized controlled psilocybin therapy study ever completed and it showed rapid and sustained response after just a single 25-milligram dose of COMP360 psilocybin with psychological support. The trial provided COMPASS with the target dose for our planned Phase III program and a wealth of information to guide us in finalizing our trial design which will be reviewed with the FDA in our upcoming end of Phase II meeting, which has been scheduled for late April. In the trial, in addition to looking at the safety and efficacy of COMP360 psilocybin therapy we examined a number of exploratory measures recognized as being important to recovery for patients with TRD and we're pleased to see positive data. In December, we also announced results from our open label study of COMP360 psilocybin therapy in TRD patients who remained on our SSRI antidepressants, unlike those in our Phase 2b trial in which patients were withdrawn from their antidepressants. The study results demonstrated that COMP360 has potential as an adjunctive therapy as well as a monotherapy providing greater flexibility to patients. We believe this increase in patient choice could increase the number of prescribers and patients who consider this therapy option. The number of patients who participated in either the Phase 2b or the open label study entered a 12-month long-term follow-up study. We will be reporting the results of this study later in the year and expect additional insight on the durability of a single COMP360 psilocybin dose with psychological support. Guy will walk through these data in more detail in a moment. Beyond TRD, we commenced the COMPASS sponsored Phase 2 study of COMP360 psilocybin therapy for the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder or PTSD, another indication with significant unmet need and representing an urgent problem with few current therapeutic options. We expect to expand into a further indication over the course of this year. These COMPASS sponsored programs are in addition to the ongoing investigator-initiated studies in a variety of therapeutic areas, including anorexia nervosa, bipolar depression and severely resistant TRD. We continue to expand our leadership in preclinical research and exploring new psychedelic compounds through our discovery center and through our recently acquired intellectual property portfolio covering a variety of psychedelic and in pathogenic substances. This IP was developed together with inventor, Dr. Matthias Grill, who will be working with COMPASS on an exclusive research project to advance new product candidates.

Guy Goodwin, Chief Medical Officer

Thank you, George and good day all. Late last year, we presented the topline results from the COMP360 TRD study. Since then, we have generated additional analysis, the primary and secondary endpoints, but validated the topline findings. I will talk briefly through these today. We will be submitting our trial data for publication in a peer-reviewed journal this year. In our analysis of exploratory measures we observe consistent improvements in measures of anxiety, positive and negative affect, quality of life, daily functioning, cognition and self-reported depression. We believe such improvements underline the comprehensive nature of the response to COMP360 psilocybin therapy. Remember, a quarter of the patients in the 25 milligram group maintained their symptomatic response at 12 weeks after a single administration with no other anti-depressant medication. This finding is unprecedented for this patient population. Furthermore, a post-talk analysis of sustained respondents showed clinically meaningful improvements in measures such as the self-report scale and quality of life, which underline that patients returned to levels typical of the healthy population and remain there for the length of the trial. Additionally, on the positive and negative affect schedule or PANAS scale on the day after COMP360 administration and the questionnaires final administration at week 3. Patients in the 25 milligram group had a higher increase in positive affect, including feeling interested, excited and strong. These improvements in positive mood could provide important differentiation for COMP360 when eventually compared directly with other available treatments. These findings are very encouraging and will be included in the end of Phase 2 meeting with the FDA in April. Additional safety data were also generated. As noted in the topline data, COMP360 psilocybin was generally well tolerated. Further analysis showed that there were no concerns with vital sign, ECG or clinical laboratory data in any of the treatment groups. The majority of treatment-emergent adverse events occurring on the day of COMP360 administration resolved on the same day or the day after. Suicidal ideation, suicidal behavior and intentional self-injury are always a concern in patients with clinical depression. Their occurrence in our Phase II trial was determined that each time the patient we’ve seen with the Columbia-Suicide Severity Rating Scale. Suicidal ideation was observed in all treatment groups within a range of 5% to 7%, which is comparable with other studies of treatment-resistant patients. Independently repeated remote rating by a blinded rater showed that levels of suicidality on item 10 of the MADRS scale were lower during the study than baseline with no differences between treatment groups. We do not believe that there is a causal relationship between the serious adverse events of suicidal ideation, suicidal behavior and self-injury, and administration of COMP360 psilocybin therapy. Unfortunately these events occur unpredictably and are to be expected in this patient population. The timing and circumstances of other adverse events in the trial demonstrated that COMP360 psilocybin therapy was generally well tolerated. As George noted, we also announced in December, the results from our exploratory study a COMP360 psilocybin therapy in conjunction with SSRI use. This was a single-arm open label study of 19 patients who received the single dose of 25 milligram COMP360 psilocybin with psychological support. They show comparable average treatment outcomes to patients in our Phase 2b trial where patients were withdrawn from their SSRI prior to COMP360 psilocybin therapy. These results challenge the widely-held belief that the use of SSRI medication could interfere with psilocybin therapeutic effect. For some patients with treatment-resistant depression withdrawal from SSRIs is a difficult step even though by definition treatment-resistant means that those anti-depressants are not working. These findings and placebo-controlled results from a healthy volunteer study published by others last year, provide the basis for our belief that COMP360 psilocybin therapy could be an adjunctive treatment to SSRI anti-depressants, as well as a monotherapy. This will have the effect of increasing the number of patients potentially eligible for treatment with COMP360 and will offer patients greater choice in how they access treatment with COMP360. We are now looking forward to meeting with the FDA to review these data and to finalize our plans for the Phase 3 program, which we expect to commence in the second half of this year.

Mike Falvey, Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Guy. COMPASS continues to maintain a strong financial position with cash and cash equivalents of $273.2 million at December 31, 2021 compared with $190.3 million at December 31, 2020. With these resources, we expect to be able to fund our operations into 2024. I will now recap our financial results for the year ended and the three months ended December 31, 2021. Net loss for the full year 2021 was $71.7 million, or $1.79 per share compared with a net loss of $60.4 million, or $3.55 per share during the same period in 2020. These results include non-cash share-based compensation of $8.6 million in 2021 and $18 million in 2020. Net loss for the three months ended December 31, 2021 was $25.7 million, or $0.61 per share, compared with $18.8 million or $0.52 per share during the same period in 2020. These results include non-cash share-based compensation of $2.8 million in 2021 and $1.4 million in 2020. Research and development expenses were $44 million for the full year 2021 compared with $23.4 million during the same period in 2020. The increase was due to an increase of $16.1 million, $6 million and $0.4 million in development costs, personnel expenses and other expenses, respectively. Partially offset by a reduction of $1.8 million in non-cash share-based compensation. For the three months ended December 31, 2021, R&D expenses were $13.6 million compared with $4.5 million during the same period in 2020. The increase was due to an increase of $7.3 million, $2.1 million and $1 million in development costs, personnel expenses and non-cash share-based compensation, respectively, partially offset by a reduction of $1.3 million in other R&D expenses. G&A expenses were $39.1 million in the full year 2021 compared to $28 million during the same period in 2020. The increase was due to an increase of $7.9 million, $1.8 million and $9 million in personnel expenses, legal and professional fees, and facilities and other expenses, respectively, partially offset by a reduction of $7.6 million in non-cash share-based compensation expenses. For the three months ended December 31, 2021, G&A expenses were $14.7 million compared with $7 million during the same period in 2020. This increase was due to an increase of $2.2 million, $0.5 million, $1 million and $4 million in personnel expenses, non-cash share-based compensation, legal and professional fees, and facilities in other expenses, respectively. The sequential increases in our operating expenses over the last few quarters reflect continued support of our development programs and staffing increases to build an organization to support our growth and our operations as a public company. We expect these types of increases to continue over the next couple of quarters, as we prepare for our Phase 3 trial in TRD. When our trial design is finalized and communicated, we intend to provide more detailed financial guidance for the remainder of the year.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mike. Again, we are very pleased with our progress in the last year and even more confident in our ability to provide new options for patients to help them lead happier and healthier lives. Looking forward, this year, we are excited to add a new chapter to a record of achievement. We have an active year of milestones ahead across numerous programs beginning with the advancement into Phase 3 for COMP360 psilocybin therapy for TRD. In addition, we expect to complete the Phase 2b long-term follow-up study around the middle of the year. We expect to launch an additional COMP360 clinical development program beyond the ongoing TRD and PTSD programs. We aim to publish a detailed Phase 2 COMP360 clinical data in a major peer-reviewed medical journal and at a number of medical meetings. We expect to generate innovation around our COMP360 therapy and build our IP portfolio with additional patent grants. We will continue to advance COMP360 payer partnerships in anticipation of commercial launch and we expect to form strategic relationships and collaborations, pursue our data and technology strategy and further enhance our scalable therapist training platform that can support the significant global expansion of treatment sites that will participate in the Phase 3 trial program. Overall, the Phase 2b data package, our impending start of the Phase 3 program and the advancement of our earlier stage pipeline will strengthen the significant leadership position we have established in this area of science. With broad reimbursed patient access as our primary goal and supported by a strong operational foundation and the financial resources to fuel our continued progress, we are making encouraging progress toward our goal of building a personalized, predictive and preventative model for transforming mental health care. We believe this has the potential to change people's lives for the better for generations to come. Thank you for your time today. We will now open the line for questions.

Operator, Operator

Our first question or comment comes from Ritu Baral from Cowen. Your line is open.

Ritu Baral, Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about basically the proposed Phase III design that George, you mentioned you're going to sit down with the FDA in late April. Sounds like you probably have the briefing book together and at least the proposed design. Can you maybe just bracket for us what we should be thinking in terms of patient numbers, thoughts about what control will be, will it still be sort of one milligram or any requirements for placebo and also the number of sites, especially given the trial prep and insight training that's important for this trial that your average run of the mill studies, when do you consider?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Ritu. Thank you so much for your question. I'm going to start by saying that probably across a number of these questions, I'll be responding by saying until we review the Phase 3 program with the FDA and get their guidance and support, we won't be making comments on specific aspects of it. That because we are who we are, we are addressing all of the outstanding questions sort of emerged in our designs, that will be taken to the FDA and work on resolving those and getting to a point where we have a well-articulated plan that we'll be sharing as soon as we complete our interactions with the FDA during the first half of this year. With regard to the number of sites, we will have a significant uptick in these and have been preparing all of our therapist training approaches and so forth for that. Again, we view Phase 3 given our very promising results in Phase II as a path to bringing this to patients as quickly as possible and therefore, we will be working with more centers, more therapists, et cetera. We also are strongly developing our technology support to accelerate this process of the rollout of therapy and the therapist training.

Ritu Baral, Analyst

Got it.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I'm sorry, I couldn't tell you more, but I will be telling you more later.

Ritu Baral, Analyst

Got it. Looking forward to the May update, once you guys have been meeting minutes in hand. A quick follow-up just on the PTSD trial, can you maybe guide, like, take us through the just the high level of that trial design, even though it is investigator-run? And then George, how do you see the evolution of the space maybe compare and contrast the right patient that the clinical benefit versus MDMA PTSD program?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. I'll pass it over to Guy for the medical question. Guy, are you on mute? Okay. We've been having some technical difficulties with Guy's connection. What we're really focusing on with the PTSD research is examining the potential of psilocybin. We have some promising preclinical data that suggests this could be effective in our work. This is the direction we plan to take in this trial, and we will provide further updates as we announce the sites for that trial.

Ritu Baral, Analyst

Great. Thanks for the time.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

And my apologies, I've just heard that Guy is having very technical difficulty. So, he will not be able to join the call.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Charles Duncan from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Yes. Good morning. Hi, George and team. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats, and I thought a very good year with progress last year. I had a couple of follow-ups to Ritu’s question. I am respectful that you won't be able to provide a lot of details until you meet with the agency, makes a lot of sense. But one question that I had was, when you meet with the agency, will you be discussing the concomitant anti-depressant medicines, or are you going to stick with the monotherapy versus the adjunctive therapy for the Phase 3 program?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I'm sorry. We will be sticking with the question. Can you repeat it, please?

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Yes. So the monotherapy paradigm.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So we will certainly bring the monotherapy paradigm to them as well as the information coming from the adjunctive approach which we think is a very, very promising set of early signals. And so we will be discussing both with them obviously. Well, perhaps not obviously, but we will in service of the patients.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Okay. So the Phase 3 program is intended for the monotherapy program or possibly broader program to include adjunctive therapy with SSRIs.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Possibly a broader program again to be discussed.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Okay. Very good. And then with regard to the 12-month longer-term follow-up study that you mentioned. I'm not sure, if I heard this correctly. So, if you could just clarify, was an additional dose available to patients if needed and will you be evaluating durability based on that one as well?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. This is predominantly looking at durability trials, because one of the things that has just been unanswered since the beginning, which is why we designed the Phase 2 trial that we did, was how long does this last for whom and we don't want to be providing more suicides and therapy than is required. So we really first and foremost, want to understand durability. We saw that in 25% of our 25-milligram dose at three months and obviously, we want to see how long does that continue for which patients and we can sort of understanding carefully, how do we figure out who the responders will be, what dosing would look like etc. So this is purely the long-term those who follow those patients without any additional dosing and to look at how long did the single dose work for whom and one of the characteristics of those patients, we can help inform subsequent trials and commercial use.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Okay. Very good, George. And last question is perhaps for Mike, but you'll probably detect it's kind of a backdoor way of getting more information on the trial designs, and that is regarding the cash and I think you mentioned two years or he mentioned funding through or into 2024. And I guess I'm wondering what are the assumptions behind that? Are you planning on one or two trials in the program for the Phase 3 program for COMP360 and TRD?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Mike, do you want to take that.

Mike Falvey, Chief Financial Officer

Thank you for addressing your question directly. At the end of 2021, our cash position was $273 million, which we believe will sustain us through 2022, 2023, and into 2024. As we planned for this, we accounted for fully funding the Phase III study during that time, despite not having the final program details. We are quite confident that we can execute that trial alongside the Phase II trial and other necessary activities of being a public company. Given this financial stability, we see it as a significant strategic advantage and will continue to safeguard it, as we believe it ultimately benefits patients.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Thanks for taking the question.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

You can see we’ve been resolute in our Phase 3 questions.

Charles Duncan, Analyst

Yeah. That's right. Well, we want you to get the feedback from the agency and we'll talk soon.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Next question.

Operator, Operator

Our next question or comment comes from the line of Neena Bitritto-Garg from Citi. Your line is open.

Neena Bitritto-Garg, Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another question on a Phase III here. So I know you mentioned earlier that you are planning to expand to significantly more sites and in the Phase 2b and I guess maybe if you can tell us a little bit about how you're planning to ensure that you do have the right patients involved given the expansion in the number of sites and anything you can comment on at this point on how you plan to kind of manage the placebo response if there's anything maybe different than what you did in the Phase 3? Thanks.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So I'll take your second question first. We are very, very happy with how the Phase 2b played out and obviously, we'll be taking those results to the FDA and discussing options for the Phase 3. And so until we do that, we really will be just kind of keeping the Phase III designs to ourselves until we understand what their feedback is. The second piece that I think is important here is that everything we're doing is looking at how do we rapidly and most rapidly get this into the hands of patients as a reimbursed model of care. And so when we are developing our work, we are doing a great deal of effort to make sure that our screening is appropriate that we have the right patients that we have this homogeneous group of patients as possible that work is played out very successfully in our Phase 2b trial. We will be taking that forward and when we expand sites, we will be taking all of that learning into our Phase 3 program. And we have done a tremendous amount of work identifying the Phase III infrastructure, which will be significantly larger than our Phase II infrastructure was. And again all these pieces will come together midyear with an intention as we've disclosed to start Phase 3 in the second half of 2022.

Neena Bitritto-Garg, Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Patrick Trucchio from HC Wainwright. Your line is open.

Jason Shieh, Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Patrick.

Jason Shieh, Analyst

Sorry, this is Jason speaking for Patrick. Thanks for taking my question. Hi. How are you doing? I have one more question regarding your Phase III and I would like to know more about the intellectual property. Could you provide some insight into how the potential for simultaneous treatments or group therapies might be incorporated into the Phase 3 program? Additionally, what feedback, if any, have you received from regulators regarding this potential? Lastly, could you discuss how digital therapeutics could be integrated into the Phase 3 program?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So in terms of simultaneous administration, that's really independent of the designs so how sites will administer that is not part of the plan right now. So or not being discussed the design will be discussed, but obviously the FDA has enabled that in the past with our study at Aquilino Cancer Center. So again, that will tend to be site-specific conversation. Next with regard to the digital aspects both the patients and the therapists have digital platforms to support them through the trial. The therapists are focused on training and adherence and receiving shared feedback on the trials. What's important is that every single session is recorded and that provides a wealth of information as we look at understanding potential behavioral markers, changes in person language their narrative, etc. So we're doing a tremendous amount of natural language processing on those creating a different set of exploratory endpoints as digital endpoints. In addition, we will be providing a patient platform called My Pathfinder which will be an app that will enable patients to help navigate them through the trial, provide educational material and support material to them. So those are core parts of the Phase 3 program that's being developed, both for the side and for the patient. You bet.

Jason Shieh, Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you for the additional color. And I guess, kind of just the last question is, can you discuss on the latest on for the IP for COMP360 and kind of like the level of confidence that COMP360 therapy should have a robust long-term protection?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We are very confident in our IP position which gets stronger over time. There have been a prior challenge and that was actually overturned on merit. So we're not commenting on pending legal matters, but as you asked about our confidence, it is unwavering and strong.

Jason Shieh, Analyst

All right. Thank you so much and congrats on the fantastic year. Thank you.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We really appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Josh Schimmer from Evercore. Your line is open.

Josh Schimmer, Analyst

Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just a question about trial protocols and maybe in the Phase 2, given the potentially severe and refractory nature of the patients being enrolled in the risk for potential suicide ideation. What are the protocols in place to detect and intervene related to patient windup deteriorating in their mental health status? Thank you.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. This is a really important question and again, our focus on patient safety is very high. At the time of every interaction with the site in Phase 2b, as well as in the Phase 3 program, we assess suicidal ideation and any other aspects of that with the patient directly and obviously there is an escalation process to us should anything happen. So I think we are putting those same processes in place and really, to your point, this is a very, very difficult population: people struggle a great deal going into as we revealed into our Phase 2b trial nearly two-thirds of people had prior history of suicidal ideation; thus, we observe very significant distress of people have with treatment since its depression. And of course, there were no suicides in Phase 2b; there are just the ideation and some early behaviors that we're in non-serious and quite later after the dosing.

Josh Schimmer, Analyst

Are there specific algorithms for how to manage those patients or is it left to the discretion of the treating physician?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It's a good question and right now, what we're doing is obviously the sites are trained in how to handle that, I'm not aware of a special protocol other than their own clinical judgment. Again, we can follow up with Guy.

Josh Schimmer, Analyst

Thanks very much.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Esther Hong from Berenberg. Your line is open.

Esther Hong, Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So MAPS is expected to launch the first psychedelic for commercial use MDMA for PTSD. I was wondering what if anything could COMP360 leverage from that commercial launch? Thanks.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for your question, Esther. There are indeed some similarities in the therapy structure between our medicines, but the therapy itself differs due to the presence of sites, facilities, and trained therapists that significantly benefit both programs. We are collaborating closely to ensure that individuals trained in MAPS therapy can also receive training in our therapeutic approach. Overall, increasing our capabilities and the number of sites will enhance our ability to reach patients more quickly.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Bert Hazlett from BTIG. Your line is open.

Bert Hazlett, Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. Hi, George. I appreciate it. It was fascinating to hear about the additional characteristics of COMP360 in the TRD trial that you mentioned. The durability of a single dose is crucial, but considering other characteristics from the study, such as effects on anxiety, positive affect, quality of life, cognition, and others, what do you consider the key characteristics that will be significant as you approach Phase 3 or in discussions with the agency? Thank you.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Absolutely. A great question and I think that what really rose to the fore for us was in addition to the significant relief and symptoms for many patients at the point of our mission. There are positive affects, and most importantly their quality of life for those who responded on 25-milligram there are levels of quality of life approaching what a normal quote-on-quote normal person without any depression would experience. So our proposition here is a completely different model, not just of less symptoms or fewer symptoms, but actually a greater connection to one's life with a broad proposition of improving quality of life and reducing total cost of care. So improving quality, reducing costs, critically important for this patient population for health systems and obviously a huge patient benefit. So that's the thing that's been most interesting in addition to the very, very strong signals of durability for patients on the 25-milligram dose. And obviously, we're working to increase the number of patients who do enter remission and stay in remission, and also looking at all the other aspects that we learned through the trial as we go into our Phase 3.

Bert Hazlett, Analyst

Thank you. We look forward to the additional data and the long-term follow-up data as well. Thank you.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Super.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Francois Brisebois from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Francois Brisebois, Analyst

All right. Thanks for taking the questions. Obviously, a lot's been kind of asked and you guys have discussed what you're going to talk about on the Phase 3 details, but I was just wondering in the Phase 2b, can you just remind us how standardized the psychological support was in terms of preparing the patients? And then maybe the integration part as well was this kind of the same amount of sessions for each patient or any color on that would be helpful?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. We concentrated on maintaining consistency throughout the trial, but our primary concern remains patient safety and enhancing the patient experience. Occasionally, we may have provided additional support for patients, always prioritizing their safety and overall well-being. Our goal is to offer a uniform support model that patients can depend on, whether they are in the Netherlands, elsewhere in Europe, or in the U.S. The level of support is designed to be consistent across locations. While the methods employed are the same and clinical judgment plays a crucial role, we observed strong uniformity throughout the trial. We are also examining adherence to the model as part of our preparations for Phase III and the next level of training, and we are optimistic about what we have witnessed.

Francois Brisebois, Analyst

Great. If I could just quickly follow up, this is not, not too much backdoor. But just kind of a follow-up on Charles's question about when you see monotherapy, and then potentially combo. And the answer was, there is a possibility, is there also a possibility for repeat dosing or that we just don't touch on at all?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Obviously, we're looking at all different aspects to enable people to get well and stay well and obviously, looking at re-dosing is one of those dimensions, and we'll be reporting out on the final design when it's agreed.

Francois Brisebois, Analyst

Okay, great. And then just, sorry, lastly, in terms of the conferences where you might present this data that you mentioned, any specific conferences that you would like to highlight?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

The APA and A&CP towards the end of the year and I think those are the two, there will be some others, but those are the two that are top of mind right now.

Francois Brisebois, Analyst

Great. Thank you so much.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Just to add, we are – obviously, the results will be published in a leading journal this year as well from our Phase 2b study.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Kyle Kim from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Kyle Kim, Analyst

Hello, what is your conceptual take on some of the psilocybin in the comparative pipelines? And comparatively, what would your main advantage be regarding your potential to be a first mover, or would it be something entirely different?

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So a few things: one is, so we chose psilocybin because of our focus on patients and getting things to patients as quickly as possible. In this program, enabled us to do just that. At the same time, innovation never stops here at COMPASS. We have our work with our discovery center, our relationship with Dr. Guy, we announced and are looking at a very robust program at shorter acting substances, substances that have different receptor occupancy, etc. The short answer is we really don't know if shorter acting actually will produce the level of benefit that we've demonstrated in Phase 2b. So I think this is really important that we need to generate the data. We realize there's a lot of enthusiasm about shorter acting, but the enthusiasm is greatly outpacing the evidence available. So we're going into this area as we do, and we do that with a great deal of focus on developing robust evidence that we can then move forward into clinical programs, and we have a very robust pipeline looking at shorter acting and other ways of designing these to produce perhaps less anxiety than existing. So we're very focused on meeting the preclinical and discovery work in this area as well as being the leader in our clinical development.

Kyle Kim, Analyst

Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no additional questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

George Goldsmith, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We greatly appreciate all of your support and interest. Obviously, all eyes are focused on our Phase 3 program which as is our history, we will develop in a robust way reflecting our values to be compassionate, bold, rigorous and inclusive in the design of our trials that work. So we're looking forward to that. And we also will be sharing increased progress on other areas of our business, as we progress this year and it will be an exciting milestone-filled year for COMPASS once again.

Operator, Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.