Earnings Call
Comtech Telecommunications Corp /De/ (CMTL)
Earnings Call Transcript - CMTL Q4 2023
Operator, Operator
Welcome to Comtech's Fiscal Q4 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, Thursday, October 12, 2023. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Robert Samuels of Comtech. Please go ahead, sir.
Robert Samuels, Head of Investor Relations
Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for taking the time to dial in today. I'm Rob Samuels, Comtech's Head of Investor Relations. Welcome to the Comtech Telecommunication Corp.'s conference call for the fourth quarter fiscal year 2023. Today I'm here with Comtech Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Ken Peterman. We're also joined by Mike Bondi, our CFO. Before we get started today, I'll say that both myself and Ken are always available to answer questions our investors may have. So please get in touch if you want to organize a meeting to talk about the company, our results, or our strategy. We also have a detailed discussion of the quarter in our shareholder letter available on our website. And we have also been working to communicate directly about our business and our market between quarters in our blog, Comtech Signals. Finally, let me remind you of the company's safe harbor language. Certain information presented in this call will include, but not be limited to, information relating to the future performance and financial condition of the company, the company's plans, objectives, and business outlook, and the plans, objectives, and business outlook of the company's management. The company's assumptions regarding such performance, business outlook, and plans are forward-looking in nature and always involve significant risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from such forward-looking information. Any forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by cautionary statements contained in the company's SEC filings. Now, I'm pleased to introduce the President and Chief Executive Officer of Comtech, Ken Peterman. Ken?
Ken Peterman, CEO
Thank you, Rob. Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. This call and this quarter represent a significant inflection point for Comtech. It not only marks the close of our FY 2023 fiscal year, but also demonstrates the success and substantial positive momentum we are seeing as a result of our One Comtech transformation. In fiscal 2023, we brought 14 historically siloed businesses together and successfully instituted common practices, tools and processes across our new, unified enterprise. We implemented our first-ever comprehensive People Strategy. We established EVOKE, our innovation foundry, and brought on strategic partners who are continuing to work with us to develop and deliver new comprehensive solutions aligned with our vision for smart networks and unique technology convergences that provide our global customers with new forms of connectivity, insights and actionable intelligence that have the potential to fundamentally transform technology landscapes across the globe. As I shared during our Investor Day in June, our customers need more than a vendor. They need a technology partner, one who listens and solves the challenges they're facing every day with the foresight to proactively address the challenges that are looming on their horizon. Over the past 12 months, we've streamlined our business to better align with the emerging market convergences and technology trajectories, which, as you've seen over the past few months alone, is driving hundreds of millions of dollars in new business opportunities for Comtech. Our global customers, ranging from the Department of Defense and emergency service providers to commercial mobile network operators and new satellite service providers, continue to place their trust in Comtech, and these customers are also recognizing the tremendous value our solutions can deliver to address their toughest challenges. This year, we moved proactively, thoughtfully and quickly as a unified enterprise to effectively respond to the increasing pace of change in our end markets, to build on our existing products and bring forward new technologies that underpin modern communications, and to deliver the kinds of solutions and services our customers really need from us. Based on our accomplishments in fiscal 2023, I believe we have excelled at overcoming the challenges posed by transformational change. Our progress is reflected in both our financial performance and our positioning within the market for growth next year and beyond. Since the start of our One Comtech journey, we have focused on delivering exceptional results for customers. Today, through our renewed and unified customer-centric approach, we are leveraging our culture of innovation, differentiated expertise, technology leadership, and unique understanding of our customers' needs to position Comtech to lead the way in delivering the blended, hybrid, smart-enabled solutions and services that will bring forward smart networks and new technology convergences that can empower a truly connected planet. As we have pursued these strategic goals over the past fiscal year, we have remained focused on the crucial daily work of improving our operations, balance sheet and financial performance. We've made difficult decisions where necessary to empower our teams on the frontline with both the resources they require and the authorities to address our customers' needs. Importantly, we're seeing the results of these efforts every single day. Our teams are empowered to develop new business capture strategies that align with and address our customers' most difficult challenges. And we're winning large and strategically important contracts that accentuate our technology and thought leadership. We are still providing the products and services that Comtech is known for, and our customers are seeing that we can now be relied upon to bring even more comprehensive value, solve their toughest challenges, and apply technology in innovative ways that truly change the game. The updated technology in our next-generation troposcatter family of systems is a great example, which I'll talk more in depth about in just a few minutes. Our relentless attention to performance improvement has not only expanded adjusted EBITDA margins sequentially every quarter of this fiscal year, but also has given us the space we needed to address strategic questions about the composition of our portfolio and the strength of our balance sheet. Importantly, following a careful review of our current business and product lines, and considering the kind of software-defined and solution-based enterprise our customers need us to be in the future, we identified opportunities to rebalance our segments and ultimately choose to divest our solid state power amplifier product line. Upon completing this transaction, in the short term, we anticipate using some or all of the net proceeds from this divestiture to meaningfully reduce our outstanding debt, leverage ratio and interest payments. We're also simultaneously addressing the need to refinance our credit facility, which expires in October 2024. This process is moving forward, and we believe we're headed toward a solution. We have engaged in productive discussions with various potential sources of capital, including our existing preferred shareholders regarding alternative investment structures. We are also in discussions with our existing lenders regarding a short-term amendment and extension of our credit facility, if needed in the interim while we move toward completion of a longer-term solution. We anticipate having more to share prior to announcing our first quarter fiscal 2024 results. Overall, I am pleased with the significant progress being made with respect to strengthening our balance sheet. Such efforts, combined with optimizing our cost structure and improving business operations, provide a solid foundation as we look ahead to our ongoing transformation in fiscal 2024. Let me emphasize that the initiatives we have launched and the actions we are taking are working. Simply put, the improvements to our business processes and the increased attention to risk management and process discipline as we implement common systems and platforms across our enterprise have significantly enhanced our ability to identify and exploit synergies, increase cross-collaboration and optimize business execution across the entire organization. Meanwhile, as I shared moments ago, focusing on the differentiated expertise and the diversity of perspective of our people, collaborating with our customers like never before, and leveraging our unique culture of innovation and technology leadership is resulting in our winning significant strategic new business and strengthening our core market positions and enabling us to expand into new market adjacencies in ways that validate that our One Comtech transformation is truly working. Simply put, we're securing significant strategic enduring wins and I think there's more coming, but for now let me highlight a few: the award of the Global Field Service Representative contract from the U.S. Army with an expected value of $544 million; the award of the Enterprise Digital Intermediate Frequency Multi-Carrier, or EDIM, modem contract from the U.S. Army for $48.6 million, plus what we believe could be full-rate production potential of over $1 billion based on the U.S. government's prior fielding of the legacy EBEM modem; an award from the U.S. Army for our next-generation troposcatter systems with an initial contract value of $30 million; building upon our March 2020 contract award to design, deploy and operate a next-generation 911 system for the state of Ohio, $21 million of initial funding on this contract that we believe could be worth approximately $85 million over its lifespan; and being named one of multiple awardees on the Defense Logistics Agency, or DLA, Gateway to Sustainment, indefinite delivery, and indefinite quantity, multiple award contract with a ceiling value of $3.2 billion. These are very significant wins that are a direct result of our business optimization initiatives, our improved enterprise-wide synergy and collaboration, our improving business processes, discipline, and the focus on our strategic growth priorities. These wins also validate our progress toward becoming One Comtech, an industry leader in technology, innovation, and listening to our customers to create the solutions they most value. Through our GFSR award, with an expected value of $544 million, we have been selected to provide critical, ongoing communications and IT infrastructure support for the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and NATO, enabling U.S. and coalition forces to maintain robust, resilient, and secure connectivity for global all-domain operations. Comtech's professional engineering services, our innovation and our extensive portfolio of blended software-defined smart-enabled technologies were critical to our success in winning this business, which will help the DoD and coalition partners maintain information advantage in virtually any environment. While currently under protest by the former incumbent, we believe such protest will be resolved in our favor and we expect the contract to meaningfully contribute to our second half of fiscal 2024 and beyond. Separately, we were awarded a $48.6 million contract by the United States Army to design and deliver new EDIM modems that support U.S. DoD satellite communications, digitization, and modernization programs. Comtech will design, develop, test and deliver EDIM modems and provide hardware, software and sustainment services to support performance enhancements for EDIM solutions over time. Our EDIM modems are designed to support unique U.S. Army and Tri-Service requirements, meaning they can also be used for other branches of the Department of Defense looking to leverage next-generation SATCOM capabilities. Comtech's EDIM modems are expected to replace the Enhanced Bandwidth Efficient Modem, or EBEM, currently supporting Army, Navy and Air Force SATCOM users, and it will replace it with an advanced digital and software defined platform. There are currently tens of thousands of these legacy EBEM modems fielded today and we expect to see replaced as part of this and related efforts. We feel that the transition to digital SATCOM architectures offers a meaningful advantage that will encourage our customers to expand EDIM adoption well beyond the current EBEM footprint. We believe this EDIM award also means that Comtech's modems are at the heart of the Department of Defense's move to digitized hybrid satellite network architectures. It puts us in an advanced competitive position as DoD and coalition force communications capabilities are upgraded and modernized. In July, we announced that our market-leading next-generation troposcatter systems were selected by the U.S. Army to support tactical communications and modernization needs in a contract award worth $30 million. Here again, our commitment to innovation and technology leadership drove our success. We believe that our next-generation software-defined troposcatter family of systems represents up to a thousand-fold performance improvement over prior generations. And with the most troposcatter systems deployed in the world today, we are a clear market leader in a technology with a rapidly expanding set of defense and commercial global market applications. Let me take a minute to share just one example of the potential for expanded applications of our next-generation troposcatter systems. Following broad-scale natural disasters such as hurricanes, communications infrastructure has often heavily impacted. As Hurricane Ian, a category 4 storm, made landfall in southwestern Florida in September 2022, the Federal Communications Commission noted close to 18% of cell sites in Florida were out of service, with some counties seeing over 82% of cell sites out of service. This means millions of Floridians lost access to their cell phones, landlines, home internet, cable, or a combination of those, both during and in the aftermath of the storm, not to mention access to 911 emergency life-saving services. Because of these outages, emergency responders could not communicate with their residents in life-threatening situations. Now, troposcatter is unique in that it doesn't rely on the purchase of satellite capacity, and inclement weather, which can interfere with satellite and microwave signals, doesn't have a negative impact on troposcatter signals at all. In fact, bad weather actually enables troposcatter to perform better. In natural disaster scenarios like Hurricane Ian, our next-generation troposcatter systems hold the potential to provide a new mechanism for states' emergency service providers and global communities to sustain resilient and reliable communications infrastructures when it matters most. This is just one application we're excited about and we see other potential commercial opportunities for our troposcatter systems as we continue to integrate and expand our capabilities within the portfolio. Finally, the U.S. Army troposcatter win also validates our recently instituted capture and pricing process improvements and underpins the value of our cost reduction actions and improved program management discipline. In July 2023, we were very excited to finally have received our long-awaited initial funding of $21 million under our next-generation 911 contract with the state of Ohio. This contract, originally awarded to us in March of 2020, has a total expected value of approximately $85 million and is anticipated to start contributing meaningfully to our net sales in fiscal 2025 and beyond. And finally, in April 2023, Comtech was selected as one of multiple awardees under the Defense Logistics Agency Gateway to Sustainment, indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity, multiple-award contract with a ceiling value of $3.2 billion. This award enables the U.S. Department of Defense and other U.S. government customers to purchase a wide range of our capabilities and services in support of the Command, Control, Computers, Communications, Cyber, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance, or C5ISR, operations. Taken together, we believe these significant strategic contracts demonstrate Comtech's steadily improving performance across every facet of our business, and we intend to continue winning more strategic and enduring contracts that validate our ability to continue up-tiering our solutions and services to solve some of the toughest networking and communication challenges the world is facing today, as well as addressing the many challenges we anticipate in the future. The changes my leadership team has implemented at Comtech over the 2023 fiscal year are creating significant competitive advantage for us. Today, we're competing on the value we are delivering to our customers in a currency they understand. These recent contracts I believe represent only the beginnings of new customer engagements, and it is clear we are establishing valuable, long-term partnerships that we intend to continue to expand upon as we look to the future. For our shareholders, it means that Comtech's investments in optimizing operational performance, improving process discipline and applying technology innovation are delivering revenues that create value today. Before I turn to Mike to talk about our results in detail, let me make one last observation about this quarter's financial performance. When I first started as CEO a year or so ago, it was clear that maintaining the status quo was not an option. The onus was on Comtech and its leadership to regain the confidence of our investors, and the only way to do that was through accelerating the decisive and total transformation of the organization. For our investors, this transformation is already translating into improved financial performance. I want to be sure to highlight the following. As a clear indication, we're on the right path. Over the course of the past four quarters, the work we've done at Comtech has resulted in our consolidated net sales increasing sequentially every quarter of the fiscal year. Our adjusted EBITDA margins have also increased sequentially every quarter of the fiscal year. Structurally, Comtech has undergone a series of thoughtful strategic changes that are beginning to manifest in margin improvement and growth. These encompass all aspects of our business, from identifying redundancies within the organization to supply chain management and implementing key performance indicators to ensure we're meeting our customer commitments, all of which I've spoken about over the past three quarters, and we delved into much deeper during our Investor Day in June. During our Investor Day, both Maria Hedden, our COO, and Mike Bondi, our CFO, detailed multiple initiatives that we are implementing to drive operational efficiencies wherever we can. For those of you that may have missed Investor Day, you can find the full presentation and video on the Investor page of our website. And we noted that not only did we identify opportunities ahead of us that would benefit our top line, we believe we can achieve annual double-digit sales growth over time with significant opportunities to simultaneously drive enduring margin improvement. We are confident that while sales will grow, our margins will grow faster. Now, let me turn to Mike to talk about our results in detail. Mike?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Thanks, Ken. For Q4 fiscal 2023, we recorded $148.8 million of consolidated net sales, of which $94.2 million were reported in our Satellite and Space Communications segment, and $54.6 million were reported in our Terrestrial and Wireless Network segment. Consolidated fourth quarter sales represented a 9.2% increase over last quarter and our seventh consecutive quarterly increase. Compared to the year-ago quarter, our consolidated Q4 fiscal 2022 net sales increased $21.8 million or 17.2%, reflecting higher net sales in both of our segments. Consolidated net sales for fiscal 2023 were $550 million, of which $337.8 million were related to our Satellite and Space Communication segment and $212.2 million were reported in our Terrestrial and Wireless Network segment. Consolidated gross margins for Q4 and the fiscal year 2023 were 32.7% and 33.5%, respectively, and 35.9% and 37% in the comparable periods of the prior year. The 32.7% we achieved this past quarter reflects a sequential increase from the 31.7% reported in the third quarter of fiscal 2023. Such changes reflect an increase in net sales and overall product mix changes, primarily driven by higher net sales of our troposcatter and SATCOM solutions to U.S. government and international customers in our Satellite and Space Communications segment, including performance on our next-generation troposcatter terminals for the U.S. Marine Corps and VSAT equipment for the U.S. Army. Operating income in Q4 of fiscal 2023 was $1.1 million compared to an operating loss of $2.1 million in Q4 of fiscal 2022. Such operating income reflects higher net sales reported during the quarter, as well as the benefits from profit improvement and lean initiatives implemented during the second half of fiscal 2023. This marks our first quarter of GAAP operating income since Q4 of fiscal 2021. And the more impressive part is that we achieved this all while still incurring incremental expenses associated with our One Comtech transformation and restructuring activities. We think it is important to take a quick second to thank all of our customers, suppliers, and most importantly, employees who made this happen. As explained in more detail and reconciled in our Form 10-K filed earlier today, we utilize a non-GAAP measure that we refer to as adjusted EBITDA. During Q4 fiscal 2023, adjusted EBITDA was $18.9 million, a 51.2% sequential increase from Q3 fiscal 2023. As a percentage of net sales, adjusted EBITDA was 12.7%, an improvement from the 9.2% we achieved in Q3 fiscal 2023. For the full year, adjusted EBITDA was 9.7%, an increase from the 8.1% we achieved last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin in the more recent period reflects higher net sales and the benefit of our One Comtech lean initiatives implemented in the second half of fiscal 2023, offset in part by a lower gross profit percentage due to shifts in the mix of solutions delivered in 2023. Overall, our consolidated Q4 net sales and adjusted EBITDA were ahead of our guidance provided last quarter, and we're pleased to have well exceeded our targets particularly in light of a macro environment that remains challenging and all while undergoing one of the most comprehensive transformations in this company's history. Despite these business conditions and resulting challenges and although we anticipate some variability from time to time as we move through our One Comtech transformational change, for our first quarter of fiscal 2024, we are targeting consolidated net sales to sequentially increase approximately 1% to 4% and for our consolidated adjusted EBITDA margin to range between 11% and 13%. Such targets reflect our assumptions regarding the timing of and performance on orders from the U.S. Army for VSAT equipment, as well as the timing of and our performance on our recently awarded $544 million GFSR contract, which as Ken mentioned earlier, has been protested by the prior service provider. And while we expect a near-term close, such targets also do not assume any divestiture at this time due to the uncertain closing date of the transaction. Now, let me return the call back over to Ken. Ken?
Ken Peterman, CEO
Thanks, Mike. Before we take your questions, I want to say that I'm excited about the momentum we are building as we progress on our One Comtech journey. Going forward, I'm excited that we're already realizing significant strategic wins and material results that stem directly from our actions. Our implementation of standard tools, procedures and process discipline across the enterprise has been a key driving factor in the improvements we are seeing in our balance sheet and our performance. We have examined everything from supply chains to contract terms, and the outcomes are evident in the results you're seeing today. The impact of our cost reduction actions cannot be overemphasized and as difficult as those actions were, they have resulted in a leaner, more agile organization where we are able to identify opportunities and act upon them in a much faster and more efficient manner than ever before. Our ability to draw from all parts of the business to gather talent and expertise is one of the many advantages of our One Comtech transformation, advantages that will further increase shareholder value as we hone these abilities over the coming months and years. Customers as well are also already benefiting from these actions as we are increasingly able to turn our attention to more thoughtful and comprehensive customer engagement and collaboration strategies to win new business as valued partners with innovative, more comprehensive solutions. Our new business capture processes will continue to improve and enable us to enter new markets by combining technologies from within our existing portfolio as well as engaging with EVOKE partners to create truly cutting-edge innovative capabilities where the end solution is a far greater customer value than any of the individual parts. Today, Comtech is preparing itself for a world where there is not only value in building platforms and services to handle the geometrically increasing amounts of information that the modern world creates, but also able to capture, analyze and act on the information they carry in near real time, creating new insights, intelligence and smart networks that will change the way we think about connectivity, deliver substantially more customer value and empower a truly connected world. Everything we have done and are doing to create a One Comtech business machinery and culture is being done to put our company on a durable growth trajectory that I believe will sustain for years to come. We're all looking forward to 2024. With that, let me take any questions you may have.
Operator, Operator
We'll move first to Joe Gomes with NOBLE Capital. Your line is open.
Joe Gomes, Analyst
Good afternoon. Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my questions.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Good morning, Joe.
Mike Bondi, CFO
How are you doing, Joe?
Joe Gomes, Analyst
Great. So, just maybe you could give us first off a little bit more details to what was behind the fourth quarter outperformance. As you mentioned, you guys had projected 2% to 4% sequential revenue growth. It came in over 9%. You projected adjusted EBITDA margin in 9.5% to 10.5% and it came at 12.7%, phenomenal results. And I'm just wondering if you could give us a little more color as to what drove that.
Mike Bondi, CFO
Sure, Joe, I'll take that first piece. Yeah, certainly coming into the quarter, we had our eye set on executing on our lean initiatives. So certainly, when we're talking about adjusted EBITDA margins, clearly, I think you're seeing the benefits of those actions taken now in the second half of the year. That's definitely driving the bottom line. In terms of also just the fielding schedules of our customers and the backlog we've been building throughout the year, giving us a nice foundation. We were able to draw upon that in the quarter. So, a lot of things clicked this quarter.
Joe Gomes, Analyst
Thank you for that. Congratulations on securing the $544 million contract, even though it is currently under protest. You mentioned that you expect it to start contributing in the second half of fiscal 2024. Can you provide any insights into what meaningful contributions might look like for the top line? Also, how do the margins on that contract compare to the corporate average margin?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Joe, on the revenue profile for the contract, as we were saying in our prepared remarks, certainly, we have to be mindful of the timing of getting started on that. So, when that thing gets fully up and ramped up with all the positions, it's going to be a pretty sizable increase on an annual basis. Going back in time, we had a similar contract and I would say you can kind of use it as a proxy.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Joe, this is Ken. I would also say that while there's a protest in play, that's a pretty routine practice for this particular customer and this particular market segment. So, we're not overly concerned about that. And this task order was awarded on an existing contract vehicle we have with the U.S. Army, which leverages a 10-year, $5.1 billion global tactical communications systems II, or GTACS II, IDIQ contract. The reason I mention that is because it's one of the reasons we're excited about the G2S IDIQ contract that we have with a ceiling of $3.2 billion, because these are the kind of contract vehicles that enable this kind of business to flow to us especially in a dynamic geopolitical environment with sudden and dynamic demand potential.
Joe Gomes, Analyst
Thank you for that. I have one final question before I return to the queue. Regarding the sale of the power systems unit, could you provide any details on the impact this may have on the revenue and adjusted EBITDA associated with that business? Additionally, are you considering the potential for sales, or are you exploring other parts of the Comtech business that may not align with the new One Comtech structure?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Joe, I'll take the first part of that question, and then I think on the strategy going forward, I'll hand it over to Ken. I think in terms of the sizing of this transaction, we won't comment on how much revenue and EBITDA, but you can get a sense for it based on the size of the purchase price, relatively speaking. And in terms of the impact to fiscal '24, obviously, we're subject to customary closing conditions. We're expecting the close to be in the short term. But again, given the timing being a little unknown, it's hard to really decipher what the adjustment would be to the forecast. But I would say at this point, that's probably all we're going to say on the transaction today.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Joe, commenting on the strategic portfolio management activity, this particular business, which is really a solid business, didn't have a lot of synergy with other parts of our business, it didn't have a lot of synergy with our technology roadmaps and that kind of thing. So that kind of a portfolio management decision, while it's difficult to make, I think it's the right decision for all concerned. Now, portfolio management is something that we're beginning to do on a continuum. It's a part of any business. Management and executive leadership team operations were involved in dynamic market convergences, technology inflections, and I think that while we don't have anything to say on that, okay, and I'm not forecasting anything I think portfolio management is something that we have a responsibility to do on a continuing basis. That's all I mean to say.
Joe Gomes, Analyst
Okay, thanks for that, guys. Really appreciate it. And again, congrats on the quarter.
Mike Bondi, CFO
Thank you.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Thank you, Joe.
Operator, Operator
And we'll move next to Greg Burns with Sidoti. Your line is open.
Greg Burns, Analyst
Thanks. I wanted to follow up on the GFSR contract and your guidance. Is it true that none of that is included in your guidance for the first quarter? Additionally, if it happens to close or start earlier than expected, could there potentially be some upside? Is that the correct way to view it?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Yeah, Greg, on Q1, I would say, you could think of it's very nominal or anything at this point just given the timing of the award and what's happening.
Greg Burns, Analyst
Okay. And then you didn't mention any update on what's going on with your LEO customer? Are they progressing? Are you getting closer to seeing production orders for them? Like, what's the outlook for that in fiscal '24?
Mike Bondi, CFO
In terms of the timing for that, Greg, certainly we're tracking our progress alongside where the customer wants us to be and where they are on their schedule. I would say, at this point in time, no major changes to our outlook for production orders. I think if we get an order, it would be for the next couple of months of deliveries. So, I wouldn't expect multiple orders. It might be one large order to work from. In terms of the specific timing though, I can't comment on today.
Ken Peterman, CEO
The only thing we can say is that it is progressing on the timeline that we expected.
Greg Burns, Analyst
Okay. In relation to the EDIM modem opportunity, is this a sole source contract or are there various vendors involved in supplying these modems? When considering the conversion or upgrade opportunities, is there a cycle for upgrades or an end of life for the EBEM modems? How should we approach understanding the broader opportunity beyond the initial $48 million order you received?
Ken Peterman, CEO
The EDIM contract is a successor to the EBEM contract from 2003. The 2003 agreement included a design and development phase similar to the current EDIM project, leading to the deployment of significant quantities, estimated at tens of thousands, possibly more than 40,000 legacy modems from 2003 to the present. This program is awarded solely to Comtech, and we have a major subcontractor, iDirect, providing important interference excision capabilities. This modem functions like eight modems in one, offering a noteworthy size, weight, and power advantage over previous models, while implementing next-generation waveforms to support the Department of Defense's vision of multi-network connectivity across diverse networks simultaneously. We're very enthusiastic about this contract, seeing potential for tens of thousands of future production deliveries, but it is indeed a sole-source contract.
Greg Burns, Analyst
Okay, great. Then lastly, can you talk about cash flow this quarter? Looks like you built up a little bit of working capital. So, how should we think about cash conversion as we go into fiscal '24?
Mike Bondi, CFO
On cash flows from operations, I would say we are experiencing positive cash flows for the quarter. However, we are always influenced by the timing of collections for large receivables. In terms of a specific number, I can assure you that the cash flow will be stronger than what you observed in Q4. For the full year, while I cannot provide a specific figure or full year guidance, I believe we will begin to return to pre-COVID levels of cash generation. Additionally, regarding capital expenditures and free cash flow, our CapEx targets for this year are approximately $15 million, with spending likely skewed towards the first half but fairly even throughout the year.
Greg Burns, Analyst
Okay. Great, thanks.
Operator, Operator
And we'll move next to Mike Crawford with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.
Mike Crawford, Analyst
Thank you. Ken, you're talking about your One Comtech initiative, and I'm wondering if you can give us a progress update on one component that I think is not complete yet, and that's this assessment you're doing regarding centralized supply chain operations and management.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Thank you, Mike. It's good to have you on the call. First, I believe our One Comtech organization has two main initiatives. The first is to unify the organization by eliminating redundancy, streamlining operations, and enhancing decision-making, which contributes to significant cost reductions. The second initiative focuses on centralized supply chain management, engineering, and technology development. This approach enables us to work collaboratively across our enterprise, ensuring that we do things together in a manner that supports our collaborative strategy. Supply chain management is a key element of this. We have reviewed all our contracts to identify opportunities for more effective contract management. We are taking steps within our supply chain to communicate more cohesively and maximize value. Additionally, this initiative allows us to assess our facilities and consider potential consolidations. While we’ve made progress by addressing some immediate opportunities, this is a lengthy process that will extend beyond a year. We initially anticipated our discovery phase would last about 10 to 11 months, and we completed it slightly ahead of schedule. Our implementation phase, where we execute the actions from the discovery, was projected to take 20 to 28 months, and we are still within that timeline. We have a lot of work ahead of us.
Mike Crawford, Analyst
And then sort of related, I was hoping you could share some key components, like I don't know, maybe a dynamic cloud platform of your strategy to become more of a system solutions provider.
Ken Peterman, CEO
That's really the other aspect of the conversation we just had about consolidating the 14 separate businesses into two segments and applying some centralized oversight and leadership for enterprise-wide actions. The flip side of that consolidation is that it allows us to collaborate more effectively and offer customers subsystems, systems, and services solutions that individual silos couldn't achieve on their own. Our customers are requesting more comprehensive systems and services solutions that integrate technologies, products, capabilities, and even personnel expertise from across our enterprise to provide them with thorough solutions. In this structure, we are able to meet those requests. Importantly, typically in the systems and services markets, the financial returns and profitability are significantly higher. We are steadily working to enhance our systems and services capabilities in this way, and we are making substantial progress. The GFSR contract and some other agreements exemplify this progress.
Mike Crawford, Analyst
Okay, great. And then one final question for me is it's nice to see your Terrestrial and Wireless segment margin back over 20% where it used to be fairly consistently, and I'm wondering if it's mostly just job cuts there or what else is at play, and if you think that's sustainable?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Yeah, I think again, this is going to come down to our One Comtech lean initiatives taken. I think you're starting to see the benefit of those actions and certainly getting more work in-house like with Ohio and just kind of building that base of business up and ramping up PSAPs on the systems will certainly give us a better economies of scale, leveraging the infrastructure for supporting that business. So, I think you're seeing both of those kind of happening in this Q4 period.
Mike Crawford, Analyst
Great. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
And we'll move next to Lance Vitanza with TD Cowen. Your line is open. It seems like Lance may have withdrawn himself. And it appears we do have a follow-up from Greg Burns with Sidoti. Your line is open.
Greg Burns, Analyst
I wanted to follow up on the margin question at the consolidated level. We are close to 13% this quarter, with guidance of 12% at the midpoint. This brings us back to where we were and where you were targeting in the near term. How should we think about the business from here? Is this a good level, or is there another phase of the One Comtech initiative where we could see margins increase? Thank you.
Mike Bondi, CFO
Certainly, as we evaluate the full year and the lean initiatives, we expect the actions taken last year to serve as a foundation for each quarter. Throughout the year, we have supply chain initiatives, facility initiatives, and common tools and platform initiatives in play. We are beginning to see these initiatives drive some positive results in our outlook. Therefore, I anticipate that each quarter will likely show progressively improved bottom-line margins as the year goes on. We aim to achieve a higher target than our current performance. We are not satisfied with the 12.7% margin in Q4 and are focused on improvement. Our goal has always been to return to at least the 14% level we achieved before COVID and to exceed it. Given our current path, I believe we can reach that target. For the first quarter guidance, regarding margins from new contract wins, based on the Army's fielding schedules and our expected deliveries in Q1, our margins might be slightly lower than what we reported in Q4. However, as the year progresses and given the mix we are seeing, we should return to more historical levels, approximately in the mid-30% range. Overall, these lean initiatives can help drive margins upward from here, as we believe there is still more work to be done.
Ken Peterman, CEO
I will also provide market insight on that. You are likely aware that we are experiencing a very dynamic geopolitical situation globally. This can sometimes lead to sudden changes in customer needs, as clients may place unexpected orders and require different products than what they had planned six months ago. While this kind of volatility can positively impact our overall revenue, it can also create unanticipated variability in product mix.
Greg Burns, Analyst
All right. Great. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
And we do have Lance Vitanza with TD Cowen back in queue. Your line is open.
Lance Vitanza, Analyst
Thanks, guys. I apologize for the technical difficulty a second ago, but congrats on the quarter. And I did just have a couple of questions. I wanted to actually go back, I think Joe had asked about the outperformance in the quarter, and you had talked about the lean initiatives. But with respect to the revenues in particular at the outperforming there, would you say that that was most notable in either of your two segments? Or was that sort of better-than-expected revenue growth, was that more broad-based?
Mike Bondi, CFO
I think it's going to be in our Satellite and Space Communications segment for sure. They had a pretty strong quarter when it came to deliveries of troposcatter and SATCOM solutions. We're delivering items off to the U.S. Marine Corps, VSAT equipment for the Army, solid state, microwave, high-power amplifiers. We're also pretty strong this quarter. And so that definitely was giving us a good contribution in Q4.
Lance Vitanza, Analyst
Great. Okay. So, on the Army contract, I think you mentioned during the Q&A that there was a prior contract that could offer some clues as to how this one might look when it ramps. My question is, does the GFSR contract have a specific targeted lifetime in terms of years? And if so, could you discuss that? If it doesn't have a specific lifetime, maybe you could just remind us how long that prior contract you were thinking about how long that wound up running?
Ken Peterman, CEO
When I was talking about the prior contract, I was talking about EDIM and EBEM, the two modem contracts, and that's one with the production tail. I don't think that's what you're talking about here. You mentioned GFSR, right?
Mike Bondi, CFO
The GFSR contract is similar to a five-year contract. Once we reach full operational capacity, the Army may seek to deploy several hundred positions worldwide. The specific fielding plans will be established as we move forward. The initial quarters will still focus on ramping up. Overall, it is expected to make a significant annual contribution, potentially totaling up to $544 million over approximately five years.
Ken Peterman, CEO
Yeah.
Lance Vitanza, Analyst
Perfect. Now, that's exactly what I was looking for. And then on the Ohio 911 contract, $85 million total, $21 million I think you received I guess as a pre-payment in July and I assume that then you probably booked that as deferred revenue or it's a prepaid amount, so that's going to create some non-cash EBITDA in fiscal '25 when you actually start recognizing that. Is that right? And maybe just talk a little bit about going forward, what the differential between the timing of the future cash inflows versus future revenue recognition, if there is going to be continued differences there?
Mike Bondi, CFO
Lance, on this particular contract, the $21 million was the initial funding that was signed into the budget at the end of July. So, in terms of cash flow, I don't believe there was anything meaningful on that initial funding. What we're going to do now is start the design work and getting ready to architect the platform for the state. And so that's why it's not going to generate meaningful revenues right away. It's something that we'll design, we'll get sign-off from the customer, and then we'll start building the platform. And once we get the platform ready to go live, that's when the revenue will kick in, and that's when will start amortizing the asset that we're creating for this particular project.
Ken Peterman, CEO
The contract is in the initial period, two years, and it has options through 2031.
Lance Vitanza, Analyst
Got it. And then just last one for me, and thank you for taking these questions. Could you talk a little bit about how EVOKE has sort of played out in terms of development since the Investor Day? I know obviously the broader story there, which I think is pretty exciting. I'm just wondering if there's been any update that you can speak to.
Ken Peterman, CEO
We're experiencing ongoing and deeper collaboration with our EVOKE partners, who participate in our working sessions with specific customers. Historically, satellite communications have primarily involved geospatial satellites, with ground infrastructure being built through the purchase of hardware that remained in place for 15 to 20 years. However, low Earth orbit satellites operate differently since they require energy and propellant to maintain their orbit due to stronger gravitational forces. These satellites typically have a lifespan of only four to five years. Consequently, service providers in low Earth orbit prefer not to purchase hardware like geostationary satellite providers, who invest in long-term equipment. Instead, they seek ground infrastructure partners that are predominantly cloud-native and can adapt alongside their needs, as they need to replace their satellite constellations every four to five years, progressing from generation one to generation two and so on. This necessitates a partnership with a ground infrastructure provider offering a virtualized and integrated solution. Our strategy of consolidating 14 silos into two segments enhances our capacity to deliver significant value for low Earth orbit satellite service providers. However, we also require partners to complement our in-house capabilities in specific areas, which is crucial for fostering long-term relationships with LEO satellite providers within both communications and geospatial fields.
Lance Vitanza, Analyst
Thanks very much.
Mike Bondi, CFO
Thank you, Lance.
Operator, Operator
And it does appear that there are no further questions at this time.
Robert Samuels, Head of Investor Relations
Thanks, Ken, Mike, and thanks to everyone for dialing in today. As Ken said, there are additional details about our strategy and performance available in our investor letter and SEC filings, and we'll provide ongoing insights in Signals. And as a reminder, we intend to be as responsive as we can with investors going forward. So, for anyone with questions, please reach out directly and let's connect. This concludes our fourth quarter call. We thank you for your continued support.
Operator, Operator
This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time. Have a wonderful evening.