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Element Solutions Inc (ESI)

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Earnings Call Transcript - ESI Q1 2022

Operator, Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Element Solutions Q1 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. Please note, this call may be recorded and I will be standing by should you need any assistance. I’d now like to turn the call over to Varun Gokarn, Senior Director of Strategy and Finance. Please go ahead.

Varun Gokarn, Senior Director of Strategy and Finance

Good morning, and thank you for participating in our first quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Joining me are Executive Chairman, Sir Martin Franklin; CEO, Ben Gliklich; and CFO, Carey Dorman. In accordance with Regulation FD or Fair Disclosure, we are webcasting this conference call. Any redistribution, retransmission, or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the expressed written consent of Element Solutions is strictly prohibited. During today’s call, we will make certain forward-looking statements that reflect our current views about the company’s future performance and financial results. These statements are based on assumptions and expectations of future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our earnings release, supplemental slides, and most recent SEC filings for a discussion of material risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from our expectations and predictions. These materials can be found on the company’s website at www.elementsolutionsinc.com in the Investors section under News & Events. Today’s materials also include financial information that has not been prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. Please refer to the earnings release and supplemental slides for definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. It is now my pleasure to introduce Sir Martin Franklin, Executive Chairman of Element Solutions.

Sir Martin Franklin, Executive Chairman

Thank you Varun and good morning everyone. Before turning the call to Ben and Carey I wanted to take a moment to recognize this leadership team and all our colleagues at Element Solutions for navigating a complicated backdrop to the quarter very well. Demand has been strong, the megatrends and semiconductor proliferation, 5G and electric vehicles continue to see great momentum. However, due to raw material scarcity, ongoing COVID lockdowns, and logistics unavailability serving our customers was at times challenging, but a challenge this company has managed deftly. At this time this team is investing for the long term in culture, capabilities, and people while delivering on its commitments in the short term and I'm very proud of their performance. With that let me turn it over to Ben.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Thank you Martin and good morning everybody. Thank you for joining. We had a strong start to 2022 with our end markets remaining broadly supportive through a period of increased geopolitical volatility and supply chain complexity. We drove organic sales growth in all six of our business verticals. Despite ongoing disruptions from COVID, production in the electronic supply chain has remained healthy in the first quarter. Industrial end markets were mixed with continued supply chain challenges impacting the auto industry with more robust demand in general industrial and energy markets. The ongoing integrations of our recent acquisitions are going well and a commercial rationale for these deals is proving even stronger than initially anticipated. Logistics costs and raw material prices continue to climb in the quarter but overall resilient demand and effective price actions allowed us to deliver constant currency adjusted EBITDA growth of 9% over Q1 of last year. These results reflect the strength of the secular trends propelling our business, the value we are bringing to our customers, and solid execution from our commercial, technical, and supply chain teams against our growth strategies in a dynamic operating environment. While recent macroeconomic factors have created a less predictable short-term outlook, we continue to believe our business is well-positioned to navigate these challenges. Our team remains focused on executing the strategy we laid out at our Investor Day, to deploy our capital effectively and position our business with attractive growth markets such as electric vehicles, 5G enabled electronics, and sustainable chemistry solutions to best compound per share value. Importantly, this is not required compromising on our short-term objectives. It has been and remains an extraordinarily challenging time for the people of Ukraine and the world at large. Our thoughts are with those immediately affected by the war and their families throughout the globe. Our own employees have responded to this humanitarian crisis with incredible generosity. Through our ESI Cares Giving Programs, donations and ESI Foundation matches have raised tens of thousands of dollars in the last two months and our teams in Europe have also organized multiple food drives for Ukrainian refugees. From a business perspective we've taken several steps to address the increased volatility in supply chain risk created by this conflict. Our commercial exposure to Russia and Ukraine was less than 20 basis points of our total sales in 2021. Our supply chain historically sourced certain materials from Russia, but we have very little sole source and are actively engaged in requalifying additional sources of supply where needed. At this time, we don't anticipate raw material scarcity to materially impact our commercial commitments. Our financial strength has allowed us to build excess inventory. This is an opportunity that we acted on late in the first quarter similar to actions we've successfully taken in prior years. Pricing is impacting margins, however, customers have accepted new surcharge mechanisms to improve our ability to capture raw material cost increases. We are protecting margin dollars. Although should metal prices remain elevated, you should expect to see gross margins below long-term averages in the coming quarters. On Slide 3 you can see a summary of our first quarter financial results. We grew the top line 7% organically year-over-year and constant currency adjusted EBITDA by 9%. This level of organic growth represented an acceleration from the pace of growth in the fourth quarter of 2021 and reflected sustained sequential strength in high-end electronics in our non-automotive, industrial-oriented end markets. Recall, Q1 of 2021 benefited from the continuation of the recovery from COVID shutdowns without the supply chain pressure we experienced through the balance of 2021. It makes for a difficult comparison, and our year-on-year growth is a positive reflection of the continued strength in our markets. In constant currency terms, adjusted EBITDA margin declined 370 basis points year-over-year. However, margins improved sequentially by 240 basis points from Q4 2021 but compared to the same period last year, our first quarter results reflect many of the same headwinds from higher pass-through metals, logistics, and other raw material inflation that we saw last quarter. Higher prices on pass-through metals drove 160 basis points of year-on-year headwinds, while increased logistics costs, other raw materials, and mix impacts drove another 100 basis points or so. Excluding the impact of the $132 million of pass-through metal sales in our Assembly Solutions business, our adjusted EBITDA margin would have been 26% in the quarter. Carey will now take you through our first quarter business results in more detail. Carey?

Carey Dorman, CFO

Thanks, Ben. Good morning, everyone. On Slide 4, we share additional detail on the drivers of organic net sales growth in our two segments. Organic sales for electronics was 8% year-over-year in the first quarter. Demand for high-end electronics applications remained steady, and all three of our business verticals grew organically despite tough year-over-year comparisons. In our Assembly business, we saw sustained growth across most of our core product categories, including solder technologies and polymer-based adhesive products, which show 5% organic growth. We are also seeing continued strong uptake from a broader base of power electronics customers related primarily to the proliferation of electric vehicles. Our Circuitry Solutions vertical grew 13% organically, driven by strong demand in the Americas for both mobile and automotive electronics as well as strong growth from memory disk customers in Asia, driven by continued demand for cloud computing and data storage. This strength helped offset weaker demand in certain Asian markets due to supply chain constraints and COVID-related shutdowns. Semiconductor Solutions grew 11% organically due to continued end market demand for our wafer plating, advanced packaging, and advanced assembly products. On a year-over-year basis, adjusted EBITDA margins in our electronics segment declined 330 basis points, nearly 300 basis points of which is explained simply by higher pass-through metals, with an increase in tin prices that increased sales with no commensurate increase in gross profit dollars. This metals adjusted margin stability underscores our ability to take price actions that offset inflationary pressures and drive positive mix through exciting high-margin growth applications. For the first quarter, organic net sales in Industrial and Specialty increased to 4% year-over-year. Given the softness in auto-related end markets, we expected a more subdued level of growth in this segment to start the year. Despite this overhang and general macro uncertainty in Europe and China, all three of our Industrial and Specialty businesses posted growth in the quarter. Industrial Solutions grew 5% organically, with strength from construction, general manufacturing, and aerospace end markets more than offsetting continued automotive production softness. We remain cautiously optimistic about a significant increase in auto-related production into the second half of the year, but are happy that the diversification and quality of the rest of our industrial portfolio is shining through as well. Graphic Solutions increased organically by 1% year-over-year, reflecting a low level of growth in new packaging design introductions with CPG customers. We anticipate new customer wins will drive modestly higher growth as we move through the rest of the year. Energy Solutions also grew 2% organically in the quarter, continuing to rebound late last year as sustained high oil prices drove additional rigs back online. The start of new rigs benefits the drilling portion of this business where we provide hydraulic fluids for umbilical fills. On the other hand, new production is slower to come online, but we expect growth to accelerate in this business over the balance of the year. Now on Slide 5, where we address cash flow and the balance sheet. On a net basis, in the first quarter, we consumed about $15 million of cash. This compares to generating $24 million in Q1 of 2021. The operating cash flow reflects a sequential buildup in working capital of $56 million compared to $41 million in the same period of 2021. The primary driver of this working capital investment was inventory, driven by a combination of increased raw materials, higher-than-expected demand, and the need for greater safety stocks due to global supply chain disruption. As we have said before, we believe we can differentiate ourselves from our competitors through business continuity and a strong balance sheet position. As we have done in each of the last two years, we made the decision to increase our safety stocks to enable delivery for our customers on a timely basis. We believe these actions have contributed to stronger relationships with these customers. In this quarter, we also made the semiannual cash interest payment on our bonds of $16 million and paid the majority of our 2021 incentive compensation at a level that was roughly $20 million higher than last year, given the strong full-year 2021 performance. Other uses of cash in the quarter included nonrecurring costs related to our acquisitions of Coventya and HSO and the related synergy programs, which are running nicely ahead of schedule. Turning to the balance sheet, our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 3.2x. If we had the benefit of owning Coventya for a full year, our net leverage on a trailing 12-month basis would have been 3.1 times. Barring further capital allocation, we expect a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of roughly 2.5 times by year-end. Additionally, it's important to note that all of our floating rate borrowings have been swapped to fixed. So rising interest rates should not meaningfully impact our cash interest expense in the next couple of years. We closed on our acquisition of HSO in January of this year, a business that brings some exceptional talent and technology to our market-leading industrial surface treatment business. We paid approximately $23 million in cash for HSO, which represented a mid-single-digit multiple on EBITDA. We also deployed $43 million of capital in the quarter to reduce our share count by roughly 1.9 million shares. Approximately $19 million worth of shares were related to our normal stock repurchase program. In addition, we withheld approximately 1 million shares or roughly $24 million to cover taxes related to the divesting of long-term incentive grants. We continue to remain opportunistic as it relates to share repurchases and expect to accelerate this activity when we believe our stock is trading at a significant discount to its intrinsic value. After this Q1 activity, our remaining availability under our existing stock buyback authorization was over $700 million as of March 31st. And with that, I will turn it back to Ben.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Thank you, Carey. The strength in our first quarter results gives us confidence to increase the low end of our full year adjusted EBITDA guidance, which you can see on Slide 6. We expect to deliver $580 million to $590 million of adjusted EBITDA this year despite a $5 million higher headwind from foreign exchange than when we introduced this guidance in February of this year. So we're effectively increasing our guidance for constant currency adjusted EBITDA growth by a percentage point or two to a range of 15% to 17%. This guidance is based on an expectation of sustained strength in electronics and a recovery in automotive production in the second half of the year. However, given the pace of synergy realization from our recent acquisitions and strength in our non-automotive business, the magnitude of the recovery in auto implicit in our guidance is lower than it was initially. In spite of the increased level of uncertainty driven by geopolitical events, we believe most of our markets remain healthy, and our teams are executing well against our growth strategy. For the second quarter of 2022, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $140 million. This expectation is based on a sequentially higher level of revenue but also slightly softer margins driven by the impact of still elevated raw materials and freight costs, higher operating expenses from travel and our annual salary increases, and it also includes an estimate of the impact from the lockdowns in Shanghai and a stronger U.S. dollar. These results would still represent a strong constant currency adjusted EBITDA growth of approximately 10% over the second quarter of 2021. Our first quarter results and outlook reflect the strength of our business and our team's solid execution. We believe we're executing on our strategy for Element Solutions to benefit disproportionately from the powerful mega trends propelling our end markets with targeted investments in strategic growth areas like 5G mobile-enabling technologies, power electronics for electric vehicles, and sustainable solutions. On the topic of sustainability, I'd like to highlight that we recently published the 2021 ESG data and resources supplement to our 2020 ESG report. It contains updates to several key ESG topics and announced sustainability goals, which can all be found on our ESI sustainability website. We're proud to highlight the over $650 million, or roughly 27% of net sales, that we generated last year from sustainable products as well as improvements on a number of key energy use, emissions, employee health and safety, and social impact metrics. In our 2021 supplement, we've also provided updates to our GRI and FASB disclosures and as well as an initial TCFD index related to climate change. Our investors are increasingly focused on these topics, and we believe we've enhanced our disclosure to help highlight the compelling story we have to tell about how ESG is a value driver for our business. To wrap up, I'd like to thank all of our stakeholders for their continued support of Element Solutions and in particular, our talented and dedicated people around the world responsible for another very strong quarter. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator, Operator

And we'll take our first question from Josh Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

Joshua Spector, Analyst

Yeah, hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on a strong quarter here. Just a question on the sales side. And if I heard you right, Ben, it sounds like you expect sales up sequentially. And I guess, if I go back to the last quarter, you guys were pretty clear in highlighting some of the more normal seasonality, and you guys outperformed that in electronics in the first quarter. I guess how does your comments on 2Q impact the rest of the year and just curious on an organic perspective, do you think revenues are up sequentially or do they step down, so is it metals or organic?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, thank you for the question. We anticipate organic revenue growth in the second quarter. There will be an impact from metals in the second quarter that will visually influence the top line, but we expect organic growth beyond that, driven by the pricing actions we've implemented. Some metal price impacts are not fully captured in our adjustments. The electronics business is strong, and both the Construction & Industrial business and our Industrial Solutions vertical remain robust. We do expect growth in the second quarter. Looking at the second half of the year, there's nothing to indicate a change in the usual seasonality, where the electronics business typically performs better in the second half compared to the first half. This outlook is reflected in our guidance, which shows higher EBITDA in the third and fourth quarters compared to the first quarter and our expectations for the second quarter.

Joshua Spector, Analyst

Okay, thanks, that's helpful. And I guess just kind of related to that, I guess, if we assume sales are higher, I guess if I look at the incremental margins in 2Q and 1Q, excluding metals from both of them, they're both well below what would be your typical normal incremental from that perspective. And I guess, even sequentially, there was a big improvement from first quarter to fourth quarter, but there's less improvement in the second quarter from first quarter. So what incrementally leaves that not improving significantly without pricing? And do you expect that to improve significantly in the second half?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

So a portion of the organic growth we're generating is from price, but that price is tied to inflation in raw materials. And so if your raw material price goes up 10% and your sales price goes up 10%, you're not getting a substantial margin associated with that price increase. And so that's one of the factors that we're battling with right now. Carey, is there anything more you want to add?

Carey Dorman, CFO

No, I think that's exactly right. I think that we've caught up along pricing actions, we're seeing a relatively stable inflationary environment since March, and we're assuming that in the second quarter for the time being. So I think you hit it well.

Joshua Spector, Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator, Operator

We will take our next question from Chris Kapsch with Loop Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Christopher Kapsch, Analyst

Hi, good morning. Kudos to your entire team on the continued execution, especially given the many challenges. So my question is focused on the electronics business and circuitry in particular. So despite the broad strength, you mentioned some pockets of weakness in certain Asian markets. I'm just curious if there's any more visibility or granularity around the nature of that weakness; was it skewed towards certain end markets, or was it a function of COVID lockdowns or supply chain disruptions? Any more clarity there would be helpful? Thanks and I had a follow-up.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, you hit it. There are certain countries whose flagship products haven't launched the way they would have been expected to or on the same schedule as they have in the past. And so that's been a headwind to sales out of that country that come at a high margin. And then in China, just driven by lockdowns. We've seen some weakness in the year-to-date period. It's been offset by strength in other pockets of the business. As you've seen, we grew nicely organically, but mix was a headwind to margin in the Circuitry business because we've got higher-margin products in certain Asian countries where organic demand wasn't what we expected it to be. Overall, however, we expect recovery in some of those North Asian markets, and we see general robust strength for the year in our Circuitry business.

Christopher Kapsch, Analyst

The follow-up question relates to comments made by another public company regarding weaknesses in the flexible print circuit board markets. It seems they indicated that the rigid print circuit board markets remained more stable or showed continued strength. I think there might be some confusion stemming from that. Could you provide more details on what you're observing, your exposure to flexible versus rigid markets, and how those different segments are impacting business performance? Thank you.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, absolutely. So the flex circuit market is a good market for us. It's a high-value market. We've got a good market share in that market. Some of our direct metallization technologies are very valued in that market. And so we've seen good performance from that over the past several years. With regard to the first quarter, I don't have that data at the tips of my fingers. With regard to the rigid circuit board market, there are a whole wide set of categories within rigid, single-layer, multilayer, HDI, IC substrates; those are all rigid boards. We participate in the high-value portion of rigid board, so that's HDI and into IC substrates, which have been very good markets for us, both in the Americas and also in Asia. And we see nice growth at the high end over the past couple of quarters, Q1 being a little softer than 2021, but with reason to believe we'll see a recovery and some strength there in the balance of the year.

Christopher Kapsch, Analyst

Helpful. Thanks for the color.

Operator, Operator

We will take our next question from Steve Byrne with Bank of America.

Rock Hoffman, Analyst

Hi, this is Rock Hoffman for Steve Byrne. My first question is in the spirit of assessing how cyclical the end markets that you sell into, what would you estimate the current operating rates are within each of your key end markets? I assume this varies by region?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

The operating rates. Is that in terms of utilization at a customer level? We've got six verticals, and they are very different dynamics on a region-by-region basis. I would say that in our electronics business there is a high level of utilization at our customer sites, and they are adding capacity, right. In the semiconductor market, you're seeing huge investment in fabs; in the circuitry market, you're seeing many new lines being added. In the assembly business, we've seen sequential growth quarter-over-quarter-over-quarter for over a year at this point, two years. In our Industrial business, it's more of a mixed bag where our construction and general industrial customers are operating at very high levels, and our auto customers are operating at very low levels. The auto market, obviously, globally has been constrained by supply chains for the better part of the year at this point. Our Graphics customers are operating at relatively low levels given CPG package design evolution and our offshore customers are starting to bring capacity back online. So it's a mixed bag based on macro factors, but overall, there's a lot of strength, and there's reason to believe that strength will persist because of significant investments in new plants in many of our businesses. I'm happy to go through this in much more detail with you offline.

Rock Hoffman, Analyst

Great, thank you. And kind of leading to my next question, have you guys won any meaningful contracts associated with new capacity additions being built by your customers? And how much volume growth could this provide in the coming years and what it means in terms of your market share compared to your legacy share?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, absolutely. Yes, if you look back at the Investor Day we did in February, we showed a slide on commercial excellence and the pipeline that we've built and the conversion, the new wins that we've had, and we are going from strength to strength. And so we actually had more new customer wins in the first quarter than ever to date, and we had more new wins in 2021 than in any year prior to that. So we are executing very well commercially to win more business. Each of the wins, the average win size is bigger, so we're winning more bigger business. And we've got a lot of optimism that this isn't transient; this is driven by the strategy we've deployed to grow.

Rock Hoffman, Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator, Operator

We'll take our next question from Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Peter Lukas, Analyst

Hi, good morning. It's Pete Lukas for Jon. You guys covered a lot. Just one question for me. If you could expand a little on capital allocation priorities and the M&A landscape, are acquisitions more likely as valuations shrink or do you see your shares as a better buy right now?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

So maybe I'll start and turn it to Martin. We've been very opportunistic with regard to capital allocation. We made a small acquisition in the first quarter that was highly strategic at a great value, and we bought back a bunch of stock. Nothing large, imminent right now. We've been continuing to buy stock in the market as shares have been weak. And that does, at the moment, look like the best use of capital. But we will retain flexibility. I don't know, Martin, if you want to add anything?

Sir Martin Franklin, Executive Chairman

No, I completely agree with that. There's a dislocation on valuation at the moment, which we'll continue to take advantage of while keeping our leverage ratio conservative.

Peter Lukas, Analyst

Great, that’s it for me. Thanks.

Operator, Operator

We'll take our next question from Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Angel Castillo, Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. Just was hoping you could give us a little bit more color on the organic growth by the sub segments as you think about volume versus, I think you noted some of the price that's maybe not directly passed through. So if you could just kind of disaggregate that and give us a sense for how that's been trending, that would be helpful?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, absolutely. Obviously, we have six sub-segments, and it's a slightly different story in each. The organic growth you saw in the assembly business is mostly volume-driven because there is the pass-through metal impact. If you look at the Circuitry business, maybe half of that is price and half of that is volume. The Semiconductor business is mostly volume-driven, and I think that it's a good rule of thumb for the Circuitry and Industrial businesses to say it's about half price and about half the volume, maybe a little bit more price in Industrial than volume given the weakness in auto year-over-year.

Angel Castillo, Analyst

I wanted to ask about the Industrial segment. You mentioned that the second half may feature less automotive focus and more strength in areas like infrastructure and industrial, along with synergies and acquisitions. Can you provide more details or quantify some of that? What gives you confidence that these aspects will remain strong as we potentially face a worsening macro environment in the second half, particularly in the construction and industrial markets?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes. So as you heard in the prepared remarks, our assumption for auto in the back half is far less ambitious than it was when we gave our initial guidance. And even then, that auto assumption wasn't particularly ambitious relative to research forecasts. The comps get easier and easier in the industrial business as we get into the second half. And so there's not a lot of heroics, I would say, implied to deliver on our numbers in the Industrial space. And that Construction & Industrial portion of our business has been really healthy for an extended period of time, and we're seeing pretty good demand from a housing market perspective. The only other comment I'd make is, as you know, this is a variable operating cost business, and if we see those pockets of weakness and the top line doesn't show up, the cost will fall out, and we'll be able to deliver. And so that's how we're thinking about that, and that's what gives us the confidence to increase the low end of our range for the year.

Angel Castillo, Analyst

And I guess, just to clarify on that one and the synergies and the acquisition, maybe how much that is of the pickup or maybe we're seeing better?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, we talked about $10 million of synergies in the year, and we're trending better than that right now.

Kieran De Brun, Analyst

Good morning. I guess just in terms of the logistics kind of raw headwinds, etc. can you just parse out where I guess you stand now going into the second quarter versus what your expectations were in the fourth quarter, what has changed, and how much more pronounced is that impact? And I guess you've talked about some of the initiatives that you've been taking in terms of pricing and surcharges to offset that. So how do you see that kind of trending and margins progressing throughout the year? Thank you.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Thank you for the question. Logistics costs increased by $3 million sequentially and $8 million compared to last year. I would consider this a significant challenge that we are working to overcome. We have carried over tin prices and face surge pricing for materials like nickel and palladium, which, while smaller than tin, still represent a substantial expense of about $100 million to $120 million last year. These prices have risen considerably. This relates to my earlier comment that, due to the current metal prices, our margin percentage appears lower, yet we are maintaining margin dollars through cost pass-through. We continue to implement pricing strategies and plan to enhance efficiency in our supply chain to improve margins. While these improvements won't occur instantly, we are committed to preserving profit dollars and restoring margins to previous levels. However, this process will take time, given the ongoing inflation we are facing.

Kieran De Brun, Analyst

Great. And then maybe just a quick follow-up in terms of the Industrials and Specialty business, but specifically on the Industrial side, I mean it seems that the mix of that business is really outperforming the underlying growth of the kind of end markets and has been doing so for a period of time. As it recovers, how do you think about that kind of incremental delta above the underlying end market trending?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes, it's a good question. The business has been doing very, very well, and it's been doing especially relative to its end markets, and it's been doing well because of commercial execution, strategic execution. The businesses we brought together under our Industrial Solutions vertical have integrated well and have been driving really good commercial success. As the auto market recovers, we should see a nice recovery on the top line, and we should see really good operating leverage on that as well because the auto business is higher margin than the balance of the business. And so we commit to outperforming our end markets by a point or two. We've done much better than that in the Industrial space, and the profit leverage that we should get should outperform by even more when auto markets do recover.

Kieran De Brun, Analyst

Thank you.

David Silver, Analyst

Yeah, hi, good morning. I was hoping to follow up, I think, on the segment or the product line comments on Slide 4. And in particular, under the semiconductor product line, you mentioned customer win in advanced packaging for 5G telecom infrastructure. And I was wondering if you could maybe just talk about the value proposition that Element Solutions presented that led to the win in other words, advanced packaging, 5G, I mean, to me that qualifies as kind of a high competitive ground or very strategic target for your competitors as well as yourselves. So maybe just a comment or two on your value proposition and then if you could characterize it in terms of size or duration that the particular win refers to, that would be helpful? Thank you.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Yes. Thanks for the question. This was a really exciting piece of business we won with a very large semiconductor customer. To start, we've been investing in our semiconductor capabilities. We've done a lot of work around where we can compete. From an R&D perspective, developing new technology; this is a big win at the leading edge. We won because we were technically capable, had good enough high-quality manufacturing, and the product we brought to bear was technically equivalent or better and had environmentally friendly attributes. And this is going to go into at least one, if not many new fabs for leading-edge semiconductor manufacturing, and the revenue opportunity is tens of millions of dollars over the next several years. Once your process is recorded in these things, it's very rare that the business goes away. So it's a very, very compelling opportunity.

David Silver, Analyst

Okay. So tens of millions per year. Okay. Thanks very much. I was wondering if you could discuss the current state of doing business in China, including the impact of lockdowns, supply chain issues, and any other factors. Could you comment on how that part of your business has performed over the past couple of months and what your expectations are for the remainder of the year? Are you expecting to operate at full capacity, maintain the current situation, or adapt to new operating conditions? Thank you.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

The situation in China is quite challenging. We manufacture locally for our customers, and we have a site in the Shanghai area that is currently under lockdown. About 20 people are residing at that site to support our customers. This workforce is extremely dedicated to delivering for both the company and our customers, and we are very thankful for their efforts. Despite the lockdowns, we are still able to fulfill orders and recognize sales in Shanghai. However, our outlook for the Chinese market is slightly down for the rest of the year, primarily due to these lockdowns. If the lockdowns continue or worsen significantly, it poses a risk that is not accounted for in our plans. Additional months of lockdown are not part of our strategy. We hope for a resolution that benefits not only our business but also the people facing these tough conditions.

David Silver, Analyst

Thank you. I'd like to ask one more question. Ben, you've mentioned a new surcharge program or strategy a couple of times in your comments. Regarding how your key customers are responding to ongoing cost or price increases, how would you describe your approach to implementing these more advanced surcharge programs? Additionally, are you observing any pushback from customers as the initial wave of price actions is followed by another wave, along with indications that there may be more increases? How are you managing customer relationships while still protecting your margins? Thank you.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Sure. We've always said in this business that we can take price when our price goes up, and our customers are understanding that. And clearly, it's very obvious that the prices of nickel and palladium and these metals are much, much higher. And we had surcharge mechanisms in the past that took into account commodity price volatility. What we've done to improve them is change the window where we're calculating the applicable price for that commodity. So historically, maybe it was prior month average price. Obviously, prior month average price isn't effective to recapture profit dollars and to take into consideration a very dynamic commodity price environment. So we've shortened that window in many cases, as an example. And I think customers are understanding of that. This is a unique set of circumstances in terms of inflation around the world. There are some geographies that handle price increases better than others. We're being very thoughtful about how we go about recapturing value or price such that our sales price is reflective of the value that we're providing to our customers, and we will continue to do so.

David Silver, Analyst

That’s great. Thank you very much.

Operator, Operator

And we will take our next question from Chris Shaw with Monness, Crespi, Hardt & Co. Your line is open.

Christopher Shaw, Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone. How are you doing? Maybe following up on the last question. Clearly, you have metals pass-throughs, and it sounds like surcharges which are slightly different. But I know there's a lot of other product price increases that you probably had to put through for other input inflation. But if we get to the point where, if ever, these inputs deflate and go back down, do you have a sense of how much of those price increases might be able to be maintained over time? I assume obviously pass-throughs know the surcharges probably come off but is there still a big bucket that is just potentially kept or are those things also very specific to certain raw material that your customer can see and know that those have deflated or last that pricing back? Any sense of that?

Ben Gliklich, CEO

We are currently in an unusual situation where we’ve experienced a significant amount of inflation in a relatively short timeframe. As mentioned, many commodities are subject to surcharges, which will disappear if metal prices decline. Historically, when we raised prices due to moderate inflation, we managed to maintain those price increases. However, this situation is different, and we will need to observe how pricing and input costs change in the near to medium term, as this will impact our ability to uphold those prices. In the past, we have successfully maintained non-formula pricing.

Christopher Shaw, Analyst

Got it, alright. It is all I had, thank you.

Operator, Operator

We have no further questions on the line at this time. I will turn the program back over to Ben Gliklich for any additional or closing remarks.

Ben Gliklich, CEO

Thank you, Britney and thanks to everybody again for joining. We look forward to seeing many of you in the days and weeks to come. Thanks very much.

Operator, Operator

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