Earnings Call
EXPAND ENERGY Corp (EXE)
Earnings Call Transcript - EXE Q1 FY2026
Operator
Good day, and welcome to Expand Energy 2026 First Quarter Earnings Teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask the question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Brittany Rayford, Vice President, Treasurer, and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker 1
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call to discuss Expand Energy's 2026 First Quarter Financial and Operating Results. Hopefully you've had a chance to review our press release and the updated investor presentation that we posted to our website yesterday. During this morning's call, we will be making forward-looking statements which consist of statements that cannot be confirmed by reference to existing information, including statements regarding our beliefs, goals, expectations, forecasts, projections, and future performance, and the assumptions underlying such statements. Please note that there are a number of factors that will cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements, including the factors identified and discussed in our press release yesterday and in other SEC filings. Please recognize that except as required by applicable law we undertake no duty to update any forward-looking statements and you should not place undue reliance on such statements. We may also refer to some non-GAAP financial measures which help facilitate comparisons across periods and with peers. For any non-GAAP measure we use a reconciliation to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure that can be found on our website. With me on the call today are Mike Wisterich, Josh Vietz, Marcel Tunison, and Dan Turco. Mike will give a brief overview of our results, and then we'll open up the teleconference to Q&A. So with that, thank you again. I will now turn the teleconference over to Mike.
Speaker 15
Thanks, Brittany. Good morning, and thank you for joining our call. The team delivered another solid quarter. Honestly, they make great execution look easy. Over the past two and a half months, I've had the opportunity to work with our team and spend time with our customers, speak to potential domestic and international counterparties. I got to tell you, I'm more optimistic today about our industry and company than ever. There's no disputing our industry is in the midst of a major demand growth. The big three drivers of demand, AI power, the reshoring of heavy industry, and global LNG growth are converging to make the future bright for natural gas. All of this was happening even before the recent events of the Middle East. So now, in addition to structural demand growth, energy security has pushed the U.S. natural gas to the forefront. EXPAND is uniquely positioned to take advantage of these events. Simply put, we have positioned ourselves to be in the right place at the right time. For example, our Gulf Coast assets sit at the epicenter of LNG. In fact, In fact, our largest customers today are LNG facilities, and there is an increasing recognition of the strength and competitive advantage of our Hainesville position. According to third-party reports, today we own 72% of the lowest break-even inventory in the basin, allowing us to deliver certified natural gas directly to LNG facilities with minimal risk of basis floods. Fundamentally, we see LNG as a natural extension of our business. Demand in the region is not just LNG. AI-driven power and industrial demand is rapidly growing in the region. When you combine structural demand growth and energy security, we believe the Gulf Coast is well positioned to become a premium price market. Our Appalachia assets sit at the core of AI power demand. We believe the Northeast will soon see demand growth of 4 to 6 BCF per day. In-basin demand growth will unlock pipeline-constrained production. We're also seeing a renewed optimism to build infrastructure to serve more Americans in the northeast and southeast markets. In-basin demand growth, combined with new infrastructure, will unleash our low-cost inventory and create substantial value for both expand and our shareholders. Now, let's turn our attention to the first quarter. Financially, we did well. We generated $1.7 billion of free cash flow inclusive of working capital inflows. True to our word, our strong cash flows were used to reduce gross debt by $1.3 billion and return over $290 million to our shareholders through base dividends and buybacks. Operationally, like our peers, we kept Appalachia assets running with an impressive 98% uptime during winter storm fern. Our Gulf Coast assets were impacted by the storm, resulting in some shifting of CapEx from first quarter to second quarter. Importantly, our full-year production and capital guidance are unchanged. A lot of you, and frankly a lot of our peers, are anxious to hear about our progress in the western Hainesville. Early production results from our first well have been encouraging. We are pleased with our execution and cost competitiveness on the well and have more wells planned this year, so stay tuned. Last year, we made tremendous operational improvements, but we see room for continuing operational improvements across the portfolio and are excited about the early impact of machine learning and AI is having on lowering costs, enhancing well productivity. I see this as our own self-help program. Marketing and commercial has been our primary focus of the quarter. As promised, we have attacked this opportunity with discipline and urgency. The time is now for us to improve our margins, grow cash flow per share. Our goal this year was to increase the number of commercial opportunities evaluated to ensure that we are achieving the best risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders. I'm happy to say we've made great progress on this front. On our last call, we stated the size of the prize of this effort is about 20 cents of margin improvement, which equates to approximately $500 million of repeatable, incremental free cash flow per year. We do not believe that we have to swing for the fence searching for one transformational deal. We will be disciplined and create value by stacking singles and doubles across three general categories. First, reaching premium markets. Our expansive footprint across three different operating areas gives us access to more customers and options to optimize our flows. To be clear, we're changing our mindset to be a more customer solution-focused company. In the past six months, we've added the combined 0.5 BCFD of term sales and firm transportation to end users, extending our reach to premium markets. Second, monetizing volatility. In the first quarter alone, we generated nearly 90 million incremental value, a great example of how we can capture and monetize the volatility we see in the market. While this was primarily driven by unique events, these are the types of gains we're looking to achieve more sustainably. Finally, facilitating and capturing new demand. Today, we announced a new off-take SPA with Delphin LNG for 1.15 million tons per year, extending our market reach to global demand centers. We see great value in this transaction as it's bigger, reaches markets sooner, and cheaper compared to our previous agreement, which has been terminated. Our LNG strategy will be dynamic and shaped by the economic merits of each agreement, partnership, or joint venture. We will take a portfolio approach, continuing to add to our LNG opportunities over the next several years with different types of contracts. In parallel, we'll continue to pursue opportunities to broaden our power sector customer base, supplying natural gas to a growing number of power generators, load-serving utilities, and increasing our exposure to data centers and hyperscalers. We have no doubt that Xpand is built for this moment. Why? We're the largest natural gas producer in North America. Counterparties want to do business with someone who's going to be around for the next 20 years. The depth of our portfolio combined with our investment-grade balance sheet provide that confidence. We are in the right place at the right time. Nearly 90% of expected U.S. demand growth can be served by our assets. Lastly, we have a team that can execute. We reset the economics of our Hainesville position last year, and today we continue to see opportunities to strike more value from every dollar of capital we deploy across our portfolio. Before we take your questions, I would like to take a moment to thank Brittany for her service as interim CFO. She did a terrific job. I'd also like to welcome Marcel Tunison to the team as Executive Vice President and CFO. Marcel is the kind of leader who can elevate our entire organization. He brings deep experience that aligns perfectly with the opportunities we've highlighted today. I'd also like to note our CEO search is progressing well and remains on target for the timeline I presented on our last call. However, the team is not waiting around. The board and management team are fully aligned. We are executing our plan today, and we see numerous paths to reaching more markets and improving our margin. Thank you. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, please press start one one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press start one one again. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Matthew Portillo with TPH. Your line is open.
Matthew Portillo, Analyst — TPH
Good morning, all. I wanted to start out on LNG. Could you perhaps discuss why the Delphin LNG project was attractive to expand? And maybe more broadly, could you talk about your thoughts on the global gas market as it relates to supply-demand balances and how this might play into your LNG marketing portfolio from a time-to-market perspective?
Speaker 16
Great. Thanks, Matt. This is Mike. Number one, our LNG strategy is really an extension of our Hainesville. We think about it more broadly than I believe most, which is we think about first delivering gas to Gillis, which we think will ultimately be a premium market because it's connected to all the LNG facilities. In fact, LNG facilities are our biggest customers today. When we start to think about on the water, of course, LNG, we think about that as international pricing. We want exposure to the prices, whether it be JKM or TTF or others. Delphin is the start, and we'll call it our foundational sort of contract, in order to sort of capture the LNG market opportunity and the premium pricing. It kind of flows into our bigger marketing plan. When I think about the three different sort of categories, we want to be in premium markets. We think LNG will do that as we move into Europe and to Asia. Two, of course, volatility. It's a different volatility sort of shape than our Henry Hub exposure. And then, of course, new demand, that's a new facility that's getting built, and so it is actually helping new demand in the area. And, in fact, that gas will come from both Sabine Pass and Calcasieu Pass. Dan, why don't you tell them a little bit more about the details?
Speaker 13
Yeah, thanks, Matt. So as you know, we originally had an agreement with Delphin in Vessel 2, and we had this opportunity where our conditions precedent date passed, and we terminated that contract. And as Mike said, we believe in the global LNG demand here, and so we had the opportunity to look at vessel one and take out a larger position. And important for that was we terminated the back-to-back contract as well. So as Mike alluded to, this gives us all the integrated strategy that we're trying to do, facilitate that new demand through that SBA, reach premium markets, get that asymmetry, and importantly have some of the control on the water, either ourselves or through long-term partnerships, where we can create more value and take a portfolio approach to our supply position and our sales position downstream offered different terms and tenures of sales and also different indexations. The other important aspect I'd point out here is we're trying to integrate this through our value chain, so we have a long-term partnership with Delphin. We're negotiating with them right now to be the gas supply manager, so we're integrating it right through our value chain. That differentiates us and brings more value to us, and we think brings more value to the customers. We'll be able to offer different solutions.
Matthew Portillo, Analyst — TPH
Great. And then maybe as a follow-up on the marketing side, if we look out over the medium term, at least to us, it feels like it might be a bit of a challenge given the inventory exhaustion for smaller producers around the Gulf Coast to maintain a supply level that can keep up with demand growth over the next few decades. And I was just curious if you see an evolution in Gulf Coast supply-demand balances. and specifically, do you think we need to see more pipeline capacity coming out of the northeast to help bolster supply on the Gulf Coast over the medium to long term?
Speaker 16
It's Mike again. Generally, we agree. We agree we have a lot of demand coming to a very small area that's, of course, near our Hainesville asset. So we feel pretty well positioned, and we're fortunate to have a deeper inventory than most, and so we'll be able to go a lot longer than everyone else. Long-term, when you start thinking about 20-year contracts, of course you need to find other supply in different basins. That, of course, can come from the northeast. We're always worried about can it be done or not should it be done. We definitely think it should be done. So more gas will have to come from Appalachia, and of course we'll benefit from that on our own assets. And, of course, everyone knows there's going to be more gas that's coming from the Permian as well.
Speaker 4
Thank you.
Speaker 14
Thank you. our next question comes from the line of Doug Liggett with wolf research your line is open thanks good morning everybody thanks for taking my questions Marcel I welcome first of all I wonder if I could take advantage of this being your first call you you obviously joined from a retail company but you have a tenured shell long tenured shell before that so I wonder if you could maybe just share with us, why did you take this position? What do you think you bring to the table? And if I may, on that last point, we know Mike is very keen on getting the break even down and marketing is a big part of that. So I wonder if you could share your thoughts on how you think you fit into that strategy. And I guess my follow-up is on one of my favorite topics, which is cash return and balance sheet. You appear to have inherited a pretty stellar balance sheet in the first quarter. My question is, when you think about hedging, when you think about volatility, what is the right capital structure in terms of balancing things like cash returns versus continuing to de-lever? Great.
Speaker 12
Thank you, Doug. Thank you for the question. It's a pretty long one, so it's good to get out there. So maybe just by way of... Part A and Part B. Yeah, okay, I'll take them all. So, you know, just by way of my background, so I've been in the energy sector for almost three decades, and I've worked in the upstream, the midstream, the downstream, on the oil side, the gas side, and also in every part of the world, so bring an international perspective on that. And I've done finance jobs, obviously, but also commercial, corporate development strategy jobs and operations. The last five years, as you mentioned, I've been in a Canadian downstream company, really on the customer demand side. working on optimizing the integrated margin, capital allocation, and the likes. And prior to that, I spent almost 25 years at Shell, which the last many years on Shell's integrated gas business. So that's how I kind of come to the job. And then to expand, I think most of it has been said by Mike, right? I think the expand platform is just incredible in terms of its size, in terms of its positioning here within the U.S. And it's at a time that the energy market is really, both in the U.S. and globally, is going to transform fundamentally, and we're well positioned. And then you look at the strategy, you know, where we are. You know, we want to capture more value by being integrated into that value chain. And that's where I bring a lot of kind of experience and background. And so I'm excited about the opportunity and what we can do here with the team, incredible people, and it's an incredible business and platform to kind of grow from. So that's kind of the background and why I joined and the opportunity I've seen. In terms of breakeven prices, right, you asked the question, what I believe, around breakeven prices. You know, we are kind of leading there within the industry. We're well below $3 now on a breakeven price. And that breakeven price, by capturing margin, will just create more value for our shareholders when we do that. So we'll continue to work on the cost side, as Mike also alluded to, with Josh and his team, but also by capturing more of that upside on the margin, we will just improve our relative position even further. So that's an important part. The balance sheet, you know, made incredible progress on the balance sheet. And the way I look at that, you know, it's important for us to be investment grade. We're a big company. We are a counterparty. People need to be able to rely on us. And, of course, we're in a very cyclical business. So we want to be investment-grade, not just in the good times, but through cycle, and that's important. You've seen after Q1 that we now have peer-leading kind of leverage, you know, and we reduced most of the free cash flow we generated in the first quarter to reduce our gross debt and, of course, to put some additional cash on the balance sheet as well. And going forward, this continued, you know, our strategy continues to be anchored on that balance sheet as we think of the opportunities that we have. Having said that, I think, you know, given the allocation of free cash in the first quarter and the progress that we've made relative to what we laid out at the start of the year, you know, we can rebalance a little bit the pace of that, you know, and also kind of lean a bit more on the – and shift that kind of balance to shareholder returns in the form of buyback. So that's kind of how we think through this.
Speaker 14
Let me pause there, and Lester, Doug, there was a part of the question that I – No, I think you've given – I just want to, you know, maybe just on that last point. So, you know, at the end of the day, your breakeven is still above where the gas price is right now. So is share buybacks more of a, I mean, do you think about that as opportunistic? Do you think about it as rateable? Or when you're theoretically, you know, at a gas price, which is burning cash, you know, by definition, before breakeven, is now the right time to buy your stock? or is now the right time to put cash in the balance sheet? I'm just trying to understand where buybacks sit in the series item of priorities.
Speaker 12
Yeah, so I think we do both, right? And we can walk and chew gum. We're still generating cash. Of course, our hedging program means we are realizing prices well above what you see in the spot markets at the moment as well. So I think that's important. And think of our buyback program as opportunistic, right, relative for the value we can get in buying back. And so it's a capital allocation question, and it's a balancing act, and I think you highlight that well.
Speaker 14
Thanks very much.
Operator
Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy with Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is open.
Kevin McCurdy, Analyst — Pickering Energy Partners
Thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start off with an operational question, you guys made tremendous progress on wall costs last year. CapEx also came in lower in the first quarter, but you also had kind of lower turning lines. I wonder if you had any comments on leading-edge well costs. Are you still making progress on efficiencies? And maybe any comments on increased competition for services or higher prices you're seeing out there?
Speaker 9
Yeah, good morning, Kevin. Yeah, we continue to make progress on our operational efficiencies. In fact, just in the last couple weeks, we've drilled the fastest well ever within our Utica program in southwest Appalachia. Appalachia. So the teams continue to do a phenomenal job in finding ways to unlock new value. I think, you know, we'll continue to see those strides. You know, an area of focus right now is for us, you know, perfecting how we drill our three-mile laterals in the Haynesville. And so I still see upside there. You know, as far as pressure on services, you know, of course, we've seen an uptick in rate counts in the Haynesville. We really haven't seen the impacts of that um you know show up in in our business yet you know our costs have been stable i would say outside of some um nearer term inflation around diesel prices which is you know largely tied to uh the conflict in iran but beyond that i would say the cost structures have been relatively stable great appreciate that detail and then maybe for my second question i'll move to the western haynesville and i realize that program is still pretty early um but is there anything you can share with us on what you saw on the first well in terms of, you know, where you think well costs are going to go, where you think, you know, you can take your expertise from
Kevin McCurdy, Analyst — Pickering Energy Partners
the legacy Haynesville and translate it over to the Western Haynesville, and any thoughts on production on that first well?
Speaker 9
Yeah, so, you know, the well's been online for the last couple months now, came online in early March, and so, you know, we're still monitoring well performance there. I would say we've been very pleased with what we've seen to date. We liked what we saw when we initially drilled the pilot well there, so we knew we were getting into a really good overpressured reservoir there. But, again, it's still early. We want to be methodical about how we appraise those results. We've also just here recently in the last week spud our second well about 15 miles to the north of our first producing well. And I do think on the cost side that I have every expectation that we will continue to work ourselves down the cost curve. We're by far the most proficient operator in the Haynesville. We've built up a lot of history drilling our deep hot wells in the southern part of the Louisiana core. So, of course, we're going several thousand feet deeper, but there's a lot of learnings that we can translate into the western Haynesville position. In fact, when we just look at our first well that we drilled in the area last year, you know, we're already on the lower end of the cost curve relative to what we've seen from competitors. And again, that's on one well. And I have every expectation that we'll continue to leverage those learnings and continue to work ourselves down the cost curve.
Kevin McCurdy, Analyst — Pickering Energy Partners
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Neomita with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Speaker 7
Yeah, thanks so much. And Marcel, congratulations and looking forward to working with you again, and Mike, you gave us a little bit of an update on the CEO process. It sounds like you're tracking for a Q3 or Q4 event, but just any mark-to-market on how you're progressing through it, how you're attacking this process, and what you're looking for, and timing.
Speaker 16
I like the way you said that, mark-to-market. Look, number one, the team is not waiting for a new CEO. I think you should see from our behavior and our quarter results here and efforts on marketing that there's no waiting for a CEO to show up before we do something. So number one job is just to continue to create value for our shareholders. With that, of course, we're looking for our leader, and we still expect to be on the same time. The mark-to-market, I'd say, is still kind of at the money on my six-month sort of prediction of when this person would show up. We don't think that we'll find the perfect person. We think we're trying to build the perfect team. And so with that team, you'll hear about Marcel's background. Of course, we have marketing with Dan, Josh, and so we're thinking it very holistically. We expect to have an energy person, not someone from Starbucks or Chipotle to come into this job, something more closer to our business. But on path, on strategy, I think that's fine. And now, today, it's just about execution that we continue until this person's arrival.
Speaker 7
Okay, that's really helpful. And then just the follow-up on the hedge-the-wedge strategy, you know, you have a good slide in the deck just talking about how volatile the gas environment has been. You know, we've been living in this $2 to $6 range, obviously, in the shoulder. We're to look below the midpoint of that range. And so the hedging strategy has worked out pretty well for you guys. But you have some competitors out there that are running a much more unhedged program. You know, as you guys think about the balance sheet being where it is, what's the right approach to hedge the wedge? And just while we're talking about hedging, just any comments on the gas macro broadly as we set up for 26?
Speaker 12
Well, thanks, Neil, and good to hear your voice. I'm looking forward to working with you. It's Marcel here. let me answer the question on hedging and then i'll pass it on on the on the macro to back to mike so you know coming in you know from the outside you know and obviously risk management is a critical part of how we manage the business so and i've studied the hedge to wedge program and all of that and it is the right approach for our company um and i think if you look at it really the volatility of the market which you point out is just much faster than how we can plan for capital so by hedging the wedge we really create that kind of you know we protect the downside while we preserve the upside. And that creates consistency in the cash flow generation as well as predictable returns. So for where we are, you know, with the balance sheet as well, I think it's the right approach. It's not a static approach, and you've actually seen that in, you know, in the first quarter, right? So we kind of lay out what we want to do, and then we optimize around that position in a way, not in a speculative way, but really from an approach of risk management and then optimization, and I think the last thing I would say is that being, you know, the largest player in the market, we have a lot of information of what is moving around there, and that allows us to just capture a bit more, make the program more efficient, and you can expect that we continue to do that.
Speaker 16
Yeah, on the macro front, you know, when we think strategy, we don't think this year. It's like trying to predict the weather, of course, and even next year. We're thinking much longer term. We think the large macro program, macro demand is sort of amazing. Generally, I think that that macro shows up bigger in the Gulf Coast before the Appalachia because LNG is on the schedule that you can see. You can see massive sort of growth in Calcasieu Pass and Sabine Pass. So I think that will be a premium market. That's not to say Appalachia won't get its fair share with AI demand and power generation, but it definitely feels like Gulf Coast is positioned to be impacted first.
Speaker 7
Mike, thanks for yourself.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Hanel with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Speaker 5
Yeah, thanks. I'd like to kind of, you know, go to some of the commercial stuff you all laid out in slide eight on your presentation deck. It seems like you've defined, you know, what the LNG, the industrial side, the power side as catalyst. How do you think about the ideal allocation reaching to those various end users? And do you think one area is under, you know, I guess, underlooked by other companies? It feels like industrial is an opportunity you all have that, you know, I don't hear others talking about as much.
Speaker 16
Yeah, I mean, I think about it in timing more than anything. I think the Gulf Coast, you know, when I think about what's going to show up, LNG is going to show up first. That makes the Hainesville particularly valuable. What people are missing, of course, is the rest of the world, international, actually are much, much more optimistic about the demand, the world's demand, and the need for LNG. And so if we overperform, I feel like it will be in that area. You know, when we get to industrial, industrial will come, but those are always big projects. We haven't seen the FIDs yet like we see on LNG. Power is just all over. I mean, it's every, you know, whether it be in Louisiana or Texas or in Appalachia, we're seeing tremendous sort of discussion about power. But, you know, when that generation equipment comes on is a little bit to be deep. And so we feel like that's secondary right now. It's not that we're not chasing it. We chase it every day. But LNG is here. And so you can plan for it and you can start building your asset to serve it.
Speaker 5
And when you think about the LNG opportunity, obviously you signed the Delphin Agreement, but given what's happened in the global LNG market right now, how competitive is it? Is it tough to be able to contract in this market given the heightened nature of it? My analogy would be if your house is on fire, that's not the time you call your insurance agent for more coverage, right? So how is that LNG market? Can you actually get things done?
Speaker 13
This is Dan. In terms of contracting, I'll talk about it on the supply side and the sales side. On the supply side, this Delphin contract is a long-term SBA, so that's priced at cost of liquefaction. So it's easy to get those kind of deals done at the moment. There's a few more in the market that are available that we're looking at. And then on the sales side, this is, again, a longer-term business driven by long-term relationships. LNG doesn't trade like really any other market in the world. It's really driven by long-term relationships, fundamentally really underpinned by long-term contracts, and we've been in discussions with counterparties already on how we could end up supplying them, supplying them different. So in the real near term, yes, the markets are priced to perfection, so if you're going to get a short-term strip in this year, you're going to have to pay up for it on the U.S. Gulf Coast, but we're setting up this business for the long term, so we expect to add supply positions and have a sales portfolio on the other end where we can market differently and a mix and a real portfolio approach to longer-term contracts and shorter-term contracts and spot exposure. Thanks.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Freeman with Raymond James. Your line is open.
John Freeman, Analyst — Raymond James
Good morning. Thank you. I want to go back on the marketing side on that. Slide 13 that you have got where you sort of, you show sort of the three-pronged sort of strategy to achieve this, you know, 20-cent uplift. And, you know, the first one, facilitating and capturing new demand, like Delphine, is obviously longer term, back-end way, these are four or five years or more, so you sort of get to realize those versus the other two, which are already underway, the premium markets and the monetizing volatility, where you're just trying to kind of rateably expand those. Because I'm curious, like, of the ultimate prize, the 20-cent, you know, kind of uplift, like, how much of that can you all achieve with just those other two kind of buckets, the premium markets and the monetizing volatility?
Speaker 16
You know, of course, it doesn't matter where it comes from. And ultimately, you know, our ability to execute will determine exactly where it is. In our view today, we think this is about 50-50, 50% on facilitating and capturing new demand and 50% on the other two categories. Between those categories, they're a little bit intermingled. So exactly how they're broken out, we don't. We don't think about it that way necessarily because they're often combined. But think about the bottom two of those things is sort of near term and about half and the very top one about half and a little bit longer.
John Freeman, Analyst — Raymond James
That's great. And then y'all removed the heat map slide, you know, in the presentation this time. I'm just making sure there's nothing to change in the way that y'all sort of think about that relationship between kind of production, CAPEX, and the natural gas price.
Speaker 9
Yeah, John, this is Josh. That's right. I mean, it's not in the deck, but it's absolutely, you know, helping us formulate our, you know, views on production and therefore CAPEX, and it all centers around, you know, taking a three- to five-year view on a mid-cycle price. And, you know, of course, there's been a lot of volatility. Mike talked about this earlier in the nearer term gas markets. But, you know, as we think about the business over the next couple years, you know, we think, you know, delivering, you know, that 7.5 BCF a day, given the current price outlook, makes sense. If we see those fundamentals change, of course, like we've done in the past, we'll be responsive to those changing market conditions.
John Freeman, Analyst — Raymond James
Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Zach Parham with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
Zac Parham, Analyst — J.P. Morgan
Hey, thanks for taking my question. Maybe just to follow up on John's question, are you starting to think about your activity levels changing at all, where current natural gas prices are? The 27 strips fall into below 360. Are we getting closer to a price where you would consider moderating some activity or at least maybe building some deferred productive capacity as you've done in the past?
Speaker 9
Yeah, you know, we're obviously, you know, looking, you know, where the strip is landing and we'll always be responsive to pricing. You know, that plan that we laid out and as the heat map that was referenced earlier is predicated on that $3.50 to $4 price range. Of course, you know, we're still in that today, but we're not stuck to it. And so, you know, just like we've done in the past, you know, 2024 and 2025 was a great example of this. You know, our toolkit, you know, is there and we know how to leverage flexible operations. And, you know, if we see markets soften, you know, further, you know, we'll absolutely be in a position to defer, turn in lines, slow down our completion activities as we see, you know, those are the best measures to, you know, better align our production with price.
Zac Parham, Analyst — J.P. Morgan
Thanks, Josh. And this is my follow-up, just on the balance sheet and how you're thinking about capital allocation. You paid down $1.3 billion in debt in April. That meets your commitment to reduce debt by at least a billion this year. How do you think about allocating the incremental free cash flow after the dividend for the remainder of the year? Should we think about that going mostly to buybacks at this point?
Speaker 12
I think the way that we look at it is that, you know, having achieved a goal that we set out at the start of the year, you know, we can now look at rebalancing that allocation, whereas in Q1, it went primarily to debt reduction, right? In the rest of the year, we can rebalance that with share buybacks and share all the distributions.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Youngworth with BMO. Your line is open.
Speaker 17
Thanks. Good morning. Can you come back to the Delphin gas supply manager comment from earlier in the call? Just what all does this entail? Does this imply that you've looked to take additional offtake from the project? And if you look at other LNG opportunities, what all goes into the assessment as to whether that's an ideal project for Expand to participate in or partner with?
Speaker 13
Hi, Philip. The gas supply manager, that's something that's under negotiation with Delphin at the moment, and that's supply from upstream, where we would be managing all the gas into the facility, managing that capacity. It sets up naturally for us, given our footprint. and how our growth and what we're doing versus Delphin building that capability on their own. So it's kind of a win-win for both of us. So it's the opportunity to supply to them and to manage the capacity into the facility. And then we're creating a long-term partnership. They're looking to do other vessels later on. And again, we'd be in the mix of supplying, supporting that new demand, getting after our strategy of facilitating, capturing new demand. And then when we look at all the other projects, we're looking at similar aspects. We like the integration through our Haynesville asset. we think we're well positioned to to be able to supply to these facilities we already are supplying around 2bcfd to these facilities so we have conversations with them and then we look at all these projects in terms of value and economic risk and we believe in the long-term demand both in the u.s gulf coast and globally in lng so we're going to look at all these projects individually in terms of their economic merit but essentially we're trying to build a well interconnected connected portfolio on our upstream and through to the LNG market.
Speaker 17
Okay, that's great. And then can you talk about what kind of role you see Expand playing in the Northeast for new power demand projects? I mean, you clearly have the dominant position in the Haynesville, but I mean, there's certainly a lot larger competitors up there in Appalachia. So just how do you see the opportunities for Expand here versus the Gulf Coast considering the different competitive dynamics?
Speaker 16
Yeah, thanks for that question. This is Mike. In general, when I think about the Appalachian, I think about it in two buckets because we have Northeast PA, which we actually are dominant in that particular area, and that's where our competitive advantage is on power generation, which is actually PJM, and that's the right market for it, and so we're definitely in negotiations and discussions with power providers in that area in particular, and again, we feel like we have a competitive advantage there. In Southwest Ab, still location is to the western side of that, and so we think we can be competitive on that side of the basin as some of our other competitors are further east. But the overall strategy is to focus on where we're the best, and so we're thinking about northeast PA in that market.
Speaker 5
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Neil Dingman with William Blair. Your line is open.
Speaker 4
Morning, Mike. Thanks for the time. My first question is just, Mike, simply on your strategy. I'm just wondering specifically, I know you've mentioned, you know, really taking a full integration focus, and I'm just wondering, could you give some details of what specific transactions make the most sense in the coming months? Would it be just simply like those of the Delphin Agreement or, you know, maybe what else you'd be looking for as part of your strategy? Sure, sure.
Speaker 16
We're a producer, and as a producer, we think of two things. sell more gas at higher prices and so that's what we do and so our focus is really pushing towards new demand and better pricing and therefore we're focused on our marketing that's we think the time is now that's where the opportunity is um and so number one we want to you know sort of continue to look at the lng value chain and push that because it's near term and it's close and of course we can actually provide our our actual gas in the hainesville i like the i think that where you just use interconnectivity. I really like that, Dan. So that's sort of the first deal. But it doesn't mean, you know, we are competing heavily, of course, for power generation in Northeast PA, like I already mentioned.
Speaker 4
Got it. And then just, you know, on my second question, just on the incremental free cash on the 20 cents an M that you continue to throw out there to capture, am I correct on thinking this is still, I mean, what are you thinking around timing around that? Is it a couple years or, you know, could it be even longer if some of the agreements are not FID'd or, you know, how should we think about the schedule of this?
Speaker 16
Yeah, like we just talked about, we think about it in two general buckets. We have three categories, but two generally buckets. We have our near-term bucket that's happening now. I mean, that's what you're seeing in our marketing that we just saw this quarter in the $90 million. And so that is a now answer. Let's chase, of course, long-term, LNG, power. Those are three years. But we have a lot of value to capture and to execute in this moment here in time. Thank you, Mike.
Operator
Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Mead with Johnson Rice. Your line is open.
Charles Meade, Analyst — Johnson Rice
Good morning, Mike, to you and your whole team there. My first question I think is probably for Josh, but you guys will feel it as you choose. It's specifically about the cadence of capex and activity in 26. If we look at your 2Q, your volumes are essentially going to be flat and capex is up. And I'm curious, is that just some activity sliding from 1Q into 2Q? Or is that perhaps already – does that reflect some decisions you've already made to maybe defer tills or build some ducts in 2Q, that's the low part of the curve for 26.
Speaker 9
Yeah, Charles, thanks for the question. Q2 will end up being the high point of our CapEx for the year. Just the way the program was set up, it is a little bit more front-end loaded. DNC activity is going to be just slightly higher in Q2 relative to the second half of the year. We'll actually have a couple rigs across the Appalachia region coming out in the second half of the year So that will leave CapEx just a little bit lower And the other artifact in Q2 is just on our non-DNC CapEx So it shows up in the guide That's a little bit higher than what we'll see in other quarters in the year That's really just timing of our leasehold acquisition program We have several things that have been in the works over the first quarter of the year we expect those to close in Q2. And then also, you know, Q1 tends to be a little bit lighter with our capital workovers, just because the weather conditions where we get into the spring, it's much more favorable. So workover activity also picks up in Q2. But again, as we get into the second half of the year, activity will moderate just slightly. Production will grow modestly across Q3 and Q4, again, assuming the market's there. But really, I think the main thing there is that, you know, we are in a position where we expect to deliver 7.5 BCF a day at $2.85 billion of CapEx.
Charles Meade, Analyst — Johnson Rice
Got it. Thank you for that, Josh. And then, Mike, my follow-up is probably for you, and it's really about your financial approach to pushing, you know, pushing further down the value chain with these commercial opportunities. It looks to me that, for the most part, what you guys have done is decided to sign up for capacity or transport rather than take equity stakes in projects. But an exception to that seems to be your approach to storage, where you guys actually have spent money to get equity stakes in those facilities. So can you tell us about how you evaluate looking at signing up for capacity versus buying equity stakes and if that approach is either changing over time or changes between the kinds of opportunities you're looking at?
Speaker 16
Sure, sure. I have to take the question. You know, generally speaking, we think about our capital allocation from a sort of a disciplined financial view, and then we think about it long term. Our first goal is always sell more gas, higher prices. I want to repeat that about 10 times, so we're on the same page. But when you think about how to facilitate that, how do we facilitate it? We facilitated with NG3, our ownership there, because we wanted to move more gas to Gillis. We thought about it in FT to move our gas further east into the southeast market. We think about it on a long-term value accretion basis, and that's our first threshold. Well, first is strategic, then discipline on financial. So when we think about any sort of capital that's not in, we'll call it a commitment side, it's got to be creative, and that's long-term creative. So I don't think we've changed our opinion on how we think about value. We have our non-negotiables that's still in place today. So we will act when we can achieve our strategic goals and certainly create long-term value. Thanks, Mike.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to the interest of time, I would now like to turn the call back over to Mike for closing remarks.
Speaker 16
Well, thank you, everyone, for joining our call. I'd like to leave you with three things today. Number one, our industry has experienced unprecedented structural demand growth. We are excited about the future, as I'm sure you are. Second, we are in the right place at the right time. Our assets are reaching 90% of the expected demand growth. in this country and our haynesville is sitting on the epicenter of growth because of the lng market we think we are at the best position to take advantage of that and third our strategy is clear we're not waiting for a new ceo to show up before we act we are acting now we are chasing value now so we look forward to updating about the progress and and thanks for joining the call ladies and gentlemen that concludes today's conference call thank you for your participation You may now disconnect.