Earnings Call
Endeavour Silver Corp (EXK)
Earnings Call Transcript - EXK Q2 2024
Operator, Operator
Thank you for your patience. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Endeavour Silver Corp. Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. Please remember that all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be a chance for questions. I will now hand the call over to Allison Pettit, Director of Investor Relations. Please proceed.
Allison Pettit, Director of Investor Relations
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Before we get started, I ask that you view our MD&A precautionary language regarding forward-looking statements and the risk factors pertaining to these statements. Our MD&A and financial statements are available on our website at edrsilver.com. On today's call, we have Dan Dickson, Endeavour Silver's CEO; Elizabeth Senez, our Chief Financial Officer; and Don Gray, Endeavour's COO. Following Dan's formal remarks, we will open the call for questions. And now over to Dan.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thank you, Allison, and welcome, everyone. It's been a productive second quarter at Endeavour Silver as gold reached new all-time highs and with silver starting to follow, the company's cash flow and financial position should continue to benefit from these higher prices. At Terronera, there was significant advancement of the upper platform surface infrastructure, and the overall project progress reached 65% at June 30. Terronera is on track for commissioning in Q4 2024, and we're excited for it to contribute to our production profile next year and become a cornerstone asset. Q2's silver equivalent production totaled 2.2 million ounces or 1.3 million ounces of silver and 10,500 ounces of gold. We are in a great position to meet the upper range of our 2024 production guidance. Silver equivalent grades have been in line with expectations, with gold grades slightly higher and silver grades slightly lower. This is expected to be similar going forward, and therefore, we expect a similar production profile for the second half of the year. We reported top line revenue of $58 million, up 17% year-over-year due to higher metal prices compared to Q2 2023. Cost of sales totaled $48 million, up 28% from Q2 2023 due to the strength in the Mexican peso contributing to higher labor, power, and consumable costs and continued inflationary effects from 2023 that flowed into 2024. At Guanacevi, purchased material from local miners increased to 18% of throughput and accounted for $5 million of our cost of sales. In Q2 2023, purchased material was $1.5 million. With higher purchased metal prices, the availability and costs of the purchased material have both increased. There are a number of benefits of purchasing the local material, and management expects the purchase of materials to remain elevated for the foreseeable future. The higher prices also mean higher royalty expenses, and we are generating mining profits increasing our special mining duties, which are impacting our cost metrics. Direct operating costs, including mining, processing, and site administrative costs are within management's expectations. Cash costs and all-in sustaining costs benefit from the higher gold credit than estimated at the beginning of the year, offsetting the higher royalties, special mining duty, and increased purchased material. The company reported a net loss of $14 million for the three-month period ended June 30, 2024, compared to a $1 million loss in Q2 2023. Excluding certain non-cash and unusual items, as well as items that are subject to volatility, which are unrelated to the company's operations, the adjusted loss was $1.0 million compared to the adjusted earnings of $1.6 million in Q2 2023. With production and construction results previously released, today's substantial share price action was unexpected, and still the magnitude is somewhat puzzling. With higher precious metals prices, there is clearly an expectation for better earnings, and I believe this is one data point over time, we will deliver on those expectations. As of June 30, 2024, the company's cash position was $68 million and working capital was $65 million. The company raised $14.7 million through share issuances primarily to fund Terronera. During the quarter, the company completed its first drawdown of the Terronera senior secured debt facility, drawing $60 million. Subsequent to the reporting end, the company completed a second draw of $50 million and has an additional $45 million committed and available for future drawdowns, expected in the third or fourth quarter. As I mentioned earlier, the Terronera project reached 65% completion, with more than $204 million in the project budget spent to date. Project commitments totaled $260 million, which is 96% of our $271 million capital budget, and remains on track for commissioning in Q4 2024, as we continue to advance on schedule. Over 1,250 meters of underground mine development were completed in Q2 for a cumulative total of 4.5 kilometers, and our mine crews continue working in portals one, two, and four declines. Development has cut through the Terronera vein, and we have started to develop test stopes. On the upper platform surface, infrastructure construction is 88% complete, with concrete and structural steel erection fully complete and mechanical piping and electrical installation well underway. The excavation of the tailings storage facility maintenance key tranche is about 95% complete, and the lower platform is nearly 50% complete. Concrete work on the lower platform is scheduled to start early Q3 and remains the critical path for commissioning in Q4. Through June 30, 87 to 95 procurement packages are now complete, and it's now really an exercise in execution and productivity over the next six months. The company anticipates commissioning using temporary power with LNG and power generation to be operational subsequent to commissioning. Temporary power has been planned and is expected to be available for Q4. Similarly, there will be other minor structures under construction during commissioning. Lastly, from a community relations standpoint, local community support continues to be a major commitment, a plant operator training program was established, and a comprehensive training and support service plan is being prepared for groups and individuals seeking to form businesses that can provide local business and services within the community. Again, for a wholesome construction update at Terronera, I encourage you to visit our website, where you'll find our early photo gallery showcasing the latest development progress and information on Terronera. Before we move to the Q&A part of the call, I would also like to highlight that we published our 2023 Sustainability Report titled 'Transformation in Motion' in May, which provides a deep dive into Endeavour's sustainability commitments, performance, and ongoing approach to responsible mining. You can view the full report and the company's strategy on our website under the Sustainability tab. With that operator, I'm happy to open this up to some questions. Let's please proceed to that session.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. The first question comes from Jake Sekelsky with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
Jake Sekelsky, Analyst
Hey, Dan and team, thanks for taking my question.
Dan Dickson, CEO
No problem, Jake. Happy to take them.
Jake Sekelsky, Analyst
So just starting with the finished goods build during the quarter. I'm just curious if ounces were withheld for higher prices this quarter, or is this just a function of timing?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Just the timing function. I believe our last shipments kind of went out about the 28th, we didn't sell anything in advance. And obviously, because of where we are in the position of building Terronera, we're not holding back sales and don't expect to hold back sales at this time.
Jake Sekelsky, Analyst
Okay. That's helpful. And then just on foreign exchange. I'm just curious; do you think the peso has weakened to a level where you might consider putting broader company hedges in place? Or do you want to see a bit more weakness there?
Dan Dickson, CEO
I do think there's a little bit more weakness coming in the Mexican peso, just based on government policy, but it's always difficult to determine when that weakness will show up and how long it will persist. At this time, we have no plans to enter into any more FX hedges. We were required to enter into FX hedges under our build, under the debt facility, and we are required to enter into operational FX hedges when we move into operations, but we haven't made a determination on when we'll put that in place. Again, I think we'll see some more weakness in the Mexican peso, but we'll see.
Jake Sekelsky, Analyst
Got it. Okay. That’s all for me. Thanks again.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thanks for the questions, Jake.
Operator, Operator
The next question comes from Lucas Pipes with B. Riley. Please go ahead.
Lucas Pipes, Analyst
Thank you very much, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. My first question is kind of higher level on the operating environment in Mexico. Obviously, there was an election. The new administration has yet to take office. But I wondered if maybe with the election in the rearview mirror, there's a bit more clarity as to the priorities from a regulatory standpoint on the incoming administration? Thank you very much.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yeah. I mean, you're correct that on June 2nd there was an election, the MORENA Party won, and the outcomes were better for them than originally expected. The new President, Claudia Sheinbaum, is a successor to effectively AMLO, and it will be interesting to see how closely she follows the platform in her first couple of years in office, which is expected to be relatively close. She has privately indicated that mining should be more favorable than under AMLO, and she is definitely more pro-business. However, the reforms that were put in place have been lost through a variety of factors, and we are still waiting on the Supreme Court decision. There has been some chatter that those reforms may be repealed, but we will have to see that in front of the legislature in the fall. Thus, considerable uncertainty still remains with the current government. In Mexico, there has been a lot of rhetoric coming out of AMLO, but I think that will dissipate. Ultimately, it's still one of the best jurisdictions in the world to operate from a mining standpoint. Again, I don't think some of the compliance requirements being put in place will impact Endeavour significantly because we have departments that can handle that. But until these changes go through and are properly approved or legislated, it's difficult to comment on it.
Lucas Pipes, Analyst
Really appreciate your perspective. That's helpful. You noted the additional $45 million available at Terronera in the second half of 2024. I wondered if there are any specific project milestones attached to that release? If so, could you please comment and elaborate on those? Thank you.
Dan Dickson, CEO
No, there are no specific milestones required for that. The independent engineers representing the banks do the reports, look at our monthly report and we have the best estimations to go by, but everything remains on track and we think that amount will be available over the next six months.
Lucas Pipes, Analyst
Terrific. Dan, really appreciate your comments to you and the team. All the best. Best of luck.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thanks for the questions, Lucas. Good to hear from you.
Operator, Operator
The next question comes from Craig Hutchison with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Craig Hutchison, Analyst
Hi, guys. Just wanted to know about the underground development rates. It looks like it did pick up nicely in the second quarter. In the past, I think there were some underground technical issues. Can you comment on how that's going? Are you tracking to plan, behind, or ahead of schedule? Just any sense in terms of the underground development work?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes. No, it's a really good observation Craig. Ultimately we are tracking the plan now; initially, when we started, there was a learning curve just understanding ground positions and water conditions. I think we have a better understanding of the ground conditions than we originally expected based on technical reports. Water management is in line with expectations, if not slightly better. So, things have been going relatively well. We have good days and bad days, but we're hitting our mark and expect to have the mine development complete so we can meet our tonnage expectations for 2025.
Craig Hutchison, Analyst
Okay. And just in terms of the overall progress at 65% completion year-to-date, can you give us some sense of how you arrived at that number? I imagine it's a combination of dollars spent versus your budget and the milestones. But can you provide insight into achieving the remaining 35% over the last three to four months stretch?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes, that's a fair question. To put it plainly, we were at 53% at the end of the first quarter, and now we are effectively at 65%. That's an increase of 12%. If you apply that over the next two quarters, that takes us to 77%, then to 90%. One item that might not be complete by commissioning, but would be close, will be our LNG and power generation plant due to delays in permitting. We will begin commissioning with diesel generators, and possibly into commercial production. Ultimately, we are not tracking for 100% completion by commissioning. Our expectation is to be between 85% and 90% complete by that time, with some minor structures still under construction.
Craig Hutchison, Analyst
Okay. That's great. For my last question, regarding commissioning by year-end, do you anticipate producing some concentrate at that point, or is that more likely in early Q1 next year? Thanks.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes, that's getting quite specific. I would hope to communicate that we expect to have some concentrate by the end of the year, that's our expectation. Obviously, moving from commissioning to commercial production depends on capacity and ensuring we're meeting our capacity numbers to declare commercial production, but there will be some tonnes produced during commissioning. It’s just a matter of how much and when that timing hits.
Craig Hutchison, Analyst
Great. Thanks, guys, and good luck.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thanks for the questions, Craig.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Hi Dan, this is Kay from H.C. Wainwright. Heiko's traveling right now and can't make it into the question line. Thank you for taking our questions.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Happy to.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
So the Terronera drawdown of the remaining $45 million, can you provide insight on when you expect to take the remainder? I assume some of it will be needed this quarter?
Elizabeth Senez, CFO
Hi, this is Elizabeth Senez. Yes, we do plan to draw down this quarter.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Any idea how much, or is it just play by ear?
Elizabeth Senez, CFO
Yes, we'll see how the spending goes, but the majority of the construction spending will be incurred this quarter. So yes, that would be the expectation.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Okay. Thank you very much. Just a second question, last one Dan, perhaps a little bit philosophic: You have completed a good part of Terronera to date. Can you provide insight on things that went better or worse during the construction process? Any line items that made the team change something related to construction mid-process?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes, it's a big question. I mean, every day there are things that feel like they go better and worse. Our operational and construction teams have done a phenomenal job of finding Plan Bs or Cs and looking at alternatives because nothing is linear or goes exactly as planned. Nothing specific comes to mind regarding major changes. It's just timing on different things. Sometimes from a concrete standpoint, the small footprint of Terronera requires substantial planning regarding equipment placement. We have a laydown yard down in Puerto Vallarta, and equipment typically won't stay on-site longer than 48 hours. So it requires just-in-time building, and some great engineering has been accomplished. We've also had some releases down in the tailings facility that were later than expected due to geotechnical work. However, our team has done exceptionally well adjusting on the run. As we progress with our reserves totaling approximately 96 million ounces at the base, we're hopeful to find more depth, which will lead to further changes in our mine planning. Overall, tracking is good, and we're targeting commissioning in Q4.
Operator, Operator
The next question comes from Trevor Ward, a private investor. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Obviously pretty shocking. I'm a bit of a gambler, so I've put a lot of eggs in one basket with Endeavour. When we see your stock tumble like it has today, I mean I'm down personally almost $32,000 on paper in one day. Fortunately, since we last spoke, I'm actually up overall since I got my position. But I'm curious as a layman, as someone who's not well-educated in the buying and selling of stocks, I decided to get into silver. If I manufacture something like surfboards and let's say, for instance, it costs me $23, but I sell it for $29, I would say that I made $6. Can you explain to me in layman terms why you don't make the adjustments in a manner it’s easier for us to understand how you lose money if your overall costs are way less than what you sold before? Where do these other interest costs come from, and why have the losses been so substantial this quarter? The consensus for the market was that you would show a profit of $0.04, yet you’re showing a loss of $0.06, which is pretty devastating to investors.
Dan Dickson, CEO
That's a very fair question, Trevor. In the mining space, we discuss cash costs and all-in sustaining costs. Cash cost pertains to operating basis, while all-in sustaining cost takes into account G&A, exploration dollars spent to extend mine life, and sustaining capital, which does not hit earnings according to our income statement. The financial statements can be complex for a layman to untangle. For this quarter, we had a $9 million loss related to derivatives, as we're required to hedge 68,000 ounces of gold locked in at $2,325 back on March 28. Gold appreciated during the quarter, which is excellent long-term for Endeavour but caused a $7.5 million loss on those contracts. It’s essential to understand that this is not impacting our current operations and is beyond our control. Short-term fluctuations create mark-to-market adjustments. To clarify, gold fluctuated around $2,400 this quarter. Additionally, we have FX derivative contracts going through our income statement, and while they add noise to earnings, they won’t pull cash from our balance sheet. Our production cost per ounce at Guanacevi was $13.43, with total costs around $22 per ounce. We also invest into the future, which can create confusion, but that investment can deliver long-term shareholder value. Today's stock drop, around 20%, was more substantial than our peers, which we also find puzzling since our production numbers align with expectations, and Terronera's construction is on schedule. We hope you stick with us. I believe we will deliver moving forward.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Okay. So, going forward, how many other derivatives are still in play? How can we ensure that you won't have further losses based on these derivatives in future quarters?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes. The 68,000-ounce gold contracts we're selling will roll out into 2025 and 2026, creating potential losses or gains in the income statement based on gold prices. As gold appreciates, it benefits the company in the long run, though it may generate losses on the income statement in the short term, as required under IFRS accounting. It's important to note these derivatives are non-cash items, representing decisions made under our credit facility that we recognize now for future. This will persist over the next two years, but it’s for our strategic financial positioning.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Well, it helps. Okay. Thanks. All the best.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thanks for the questions, Trevor.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Thanks, everyone.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Henry Westenberg, Private Investor. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Good morning. Very interesting call. We're all very excited about Terronera. Could you give us a few words on this year's progress on Pitarrilla? Is there anything moving there, or will that be put on hold until Terronera is up and running?
Dan Dickson, CEO
Yes, it is moving, and we've got a $5 million budget at Pitarrilla for 2024. We are starting to drill at Pitarrilla now. We have a one-kilometer add at the beginning of the year, and we've extended that area. We expect progress on a zone in the back half of this year. We'll have results, and a plan put together for the marketplace hopefully by the end of this year. We are excited about it. Obviously, it's one of the world's largest undeveloped silver deposits with resources close to 600 million ounces of silver. We are assessing it from an underground mining perspective. Pitarrilla is historically understood as an open-pit mine from a feasibility study conducted by Silver Standard or SSR Mining. However, we're approaching it as underground miners. We just started drilling to confirm the structures we've hypothesized about. Expect results to be shared by the end of the year.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
That’s terrific. Thank you.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thanks for the question, Henry.
Operator, Operator
This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dan Dickson for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Dan Dickson, CEO
Thank you operator, and thank you to everyone listening today. I think Q3 and the back half of the year will be an exciting time for Endeavour. We aim to bring Terronera into commissioning and ultimately commercial production to significantly increase our production profile and cut our cost profile. Thank you again for listening, and I hope to talk to you all soon.
Operator, Operator
This brings to an end today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.