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IOVANCE BIOTHERAPEUTICS, INC. (IOVA)

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Earnings Call Transcript - IOVA Q2 2024

Operator, Operator

Welcome to the Iovance Biotherapeutics Conference Call to discuss Second Quarter 2024 Results and Recent Corporate Updates. My name is Daniel and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Sara Pellegrino, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Iovance. Sara, you may begin.

Sara Pellegrino, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to Iovance's conference call and webcast to discuss our second quarter and first half 2024 results and corporate update. Dr. Fred Vogt, our Interim President and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an introduction and summarize key updates for our U.S. Commercial launch of Amtagvi including revenue guidance and our pipeline program; Jim Ziegler, EVP Commercial, will highlight additional details of the U.S. commercial launch of Amtagvi in advanced melanoma; Dr. Igor Bilinsky, Chief Operating Officer, will comment on our commercial manufacturing experience and capacity expansion plans; Jean-Marc Bellemin, CFO, will review our financial results including revenue and financial outlook; and Dr. Friedrich Finckenstein, Chief Medical Officer, will review key clinical pipeline updates. Dr. Brian Gastman, EVP Medical Affairs; and Dr. Raj Puri, EVP Regulatory Strategy are also on the call and available for the Q&A session. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release that can be found on our corporate website at iovance.com. Before we start, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call will include forward-looking statements regarding Iovance's goals, business focus, business plans and transactions, revenue and revenue guidance, commercial activities, clinical trials and results, regulatory approvals and interactions, plans and strategies, research and preclinical activities, potential future applications of our technologies, manufacturing capabilities, regulatory feedback and guidance, payer interactions, licenses and collaboration, cash position and expense guidance, and future updates. Forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, including the risks and uncertainties described from time-to-time in our SEC filings. Our results may differ materially from those projected during today's call. We undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. With that, I will turn the call over to Fred.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Sara. I am pleased to host this afternoon's conference call to discuss our 2024 second quarter and first half results. We've had a productive year so far at Iovance following our first FDA approval and a successful start in the U.S. commercial launch of Amtagvi for patients with advanced melanoma. First, we were very pleased with the exceptional demand for Amtagvi. Our second-quarter product revenue was $31.1 million, inclusive of recognized revenue for Amtagvi and Proleukin. Amtagvi revenue is recognized upon infusion, while Proleukin revenue is recognized upon delivery, typically a few months prior to Amtagvi infusion, providing a strong leading indicator of demand for future Amtagvi revenue. The initial quarter of product revenue from our U.S. launch demonstrates early success from our team's execution as well as the unmet need, high awareness, broad patient access, and motivated authorized treatment centers or ATCs. With Amtagvi already showing a meaningful benefit for patients treated in a commercial setting, we expect continued launch momentum, which I'll return to in a moment. As Jim will discuss, we have a very engaged network of more than 50 current ATCs. These ATCs are proving that they have the training, infrastructure, and capabilities to treat patients with Amtagvi. We also remain on track to have at least 70 ATCs by the end of the year, representing the largest initial ATC network for a cell therapy launch. We've also started our community referral activities to drive additional demand for these ATCs. Through early success with reimbursement and a strong logistics and scheduling collaboration between Iovance and the ATCs, time to treatment is also becoming faster for patients. In addition, our commercial manufacturing capabilities are successfully delivering Amtagvi at an increasing pace. The key takeaways, as Igor will summarize, are that we are staffed to provide manufacturing slots to meet current and expected demand. We are scaling up manufacturing according to our growth projections. We have increased capacity and headcount each month since launch and continue ramping up to match ongoing demand growth. Turning back to launch momentum in this afternoon's press release, we also introduced revenue guidance for the third quarter and full year 2024 and for 2025. This guidance is based upon our ongoing experience and confidence in the strong uptake and significant quarter-over-quarter growth in Amtagvi demand and corresponding Proleukin sales for the foreseeable future. We used our visibility into the growth rate of infusions, adoption across our ATC network, manufacturing capacity, and additional launch dynamics to prepare this guidance. In the third quarter, we expect total product revenue within the range of $53 million to $55 million. Notably, more than 55 patients have been infused with Amtagvi since the first commercial infusion in April 2024, including 25 patients infused in the second quarter. More than 30 patients have already been infused and distributors are restocking Proleukin since the start of the third quarter. Many more infusions are scheduled or anticipated before quarter end in support of our guidance. For full year 2024, we anticipate total product revenue for Amtagvi and Proleukin of $160 million to $165 million. We expect that the full year 2024 will reflect continued demand growth for Amtagvi and corresponding sales for Proleukin. For full year 2025, the first full calendar year of our U.S. launch, we expect significant year-over-year growth driven by scaling up at existing and new ATCs and robust community referral networks contributing to additional demand. As a result, we anticipate total product revenue will increase to $450 million to $475 million in the full year of 2025. In 2026 and beyond, Amtagvi and Proleukin are expected to continue to drive significant additional revenue growth. These products represent more than a $1 billion peak opportunity in the U.S. market in the currently approved indication alone. Future revenue growth drivers also include a wide geographic footprint for Amtagvi in previously treated advanced melanoma, as well as U.S. and global label expansions to frontline advanced melanoma, non-small cell lung cancer, and other indications, as we'll discuss later on the call. Gross margins are also expected to increase to greater than 70% over the next several years. This reflects the long-term commercial strength for Amtagvi and Proleukin and highlights the strong future for Iovance. Globally, Amtagvi represents a multibillion-dollar opportunity to address more than 20,000 previously treated advanced melanoma patients annually across the U.S. in our initial planned geographic program. Following our recent regulatory submission in the European Union, we remain on track for additional submissions in the U.K. and Canada this year as well as Australia and Switzerland in 2025, with commercial launches to follow. Iovance is well positioned to build upon our existing commercial success and continue growing globally. In addition to Amtagvi, our robust and exciting pipeline may help even more patients with solid tumors obtain potentially curative medicines. Our programs include two registrational trials in other indications, and we are continuously innovating with next-generation TIL therapies. Frederick will discuss our pipeline in further detail on this call. The first approval launch and large-scale manufacturing with TIL cell therapy, together with our intellectual property position and deep pipeline, provide us with distinct competitive advantages. As a fully integrated company, Iovance is well positioned to maintain its global leadership in innovating, developing, and delivering TIL cell therapies for patients with cancer. I'll now hand over to Jim, our Executive Vice President of Commercial, who will summarize our U.S. commercial activities.

Jim Ziegler, Executive Vice President, Commercial

Thank you, Fred. We are excited about the potential for our U.S. launch of Amtagvi to improve the lives of patients with advanced melanoma. As more and more patients are treated with commercial Amtagvi, an increasing number of our ATCs are sharing positive feedback and posting stories about their patients who have benefited from Amtagvi in the early months since approval. My objectives today are to highlight our U.S. launch priorities and progress, including adoption and utilization within our expanding ATC network, community referrals, reimbursement and patient access, and streamlining and expediting the patient journey. First, our ATC network is scaling and expanding as planned, which is a key driver of demand, and we expect robust demand to continue. Today, onboarding is complete at more than 50 U.S. ATCs. The centers that were active at approval are scaling up and many have treated multiple patients. Newer ATCs that have recently completed onboarding, including major U.S. cancer centers, are beginning or preparing to treat patients. As we look to bring treatment closer to patients, our goal is to have approximately 70 ATCs in total by year-end. Beyond this number, many additional centers have expressed interest in joining our network. Currently, more than 90% of treated patients are located within 200 miles of an ATC. With 70 ATCs, nearly all melanoma patients will be within a two-hour drive to the closest center. Community referrals are also driving growth in patient volume and demand within the ATCs. An increasing number of ATCs are proactively building awareness about Amtagvi across their community referral networks. Iovance is rolling out initiatives to further support awareness and referrals by deploying direct outreach and resources into the community. The size and scope of our ATCs and these community referral networks are a testament to the significant unmet need in advanced melanoma and each center's dedication to offering Amtagvi and the interest among community oncologists. In addition to ATC demand, patient access is critical for adoption and uptake. Our launch data indicates that approximately 75% of Amtagvi patients are covered by private payers as expected. Favorable medical coverage policies and reimbursement are facilitating broad access to Amtagvi. First, Amtagvi’s inclusion in the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, or NCCN, guidelines reinforces clinical data and supports broad payer coverage. We have also achieved significant accomplishments with positive payer coverage in only five months since approval. As of today, payers responsible for more than 225 million lives, or more than 85% of U.S. covered lives, have already implemented positive medical coverage policies that are consistent with label, clinical trials, and the NCCN guidelines. Successful reimbursement is also driving faster time to treatment. The current average time to financial clearance is approximately three weeks, which is a significant reduction from the four to six weeks at the initial launch. Improved efficiencies at ATCs, including scheduling in parallel with financial clearance, are also speeding up time to treatment. We expect the trends towards shorter time to treatment to continue as more ATCs gain experience. In summary, we are extremely pleased with the early launch performance. There is strong demand at our ATCs, payer coverage policies are in place, and favorable time to treatment is becoming faster. These dynamics support the strong growth projections in our product revenue guidance for Amtagvi and Proleukin. I would also like to acknowledge our very talented cross-functional team who works tirelessly to ensure broad and timely access to Amtagvi. I will now pass the call to Igor Bilinsky, our Chief Operating Officer, to highlight our manufacturing progress.

Igor Bilinsky, Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Jim. Today I'd like to highlight our commercial and clinical manufacturing capabilities, the progress of our commercial launch, as well as our ongoing capacity expansion efforts. Manufacturing is a core competency of Iovance. We are laser-focused on quality from incoming receipt of tumor samples through manufacturing and product release to outbound shipment of the final product. Our established internal manufacturing facility, the Iovance Cell Therapy Center or ICTC is the core of our manufacturing network. Located in Philadelphia, ICTC is one of the world's largest cell therapy manufacturing facilities and the only one specifically designed for TIL manufacturing. The ICTC has a fully integrated and committed team with deep cell therapy experience. This facility is approved by the FDA for Amtagvi commercial manufacturing and has been supplying Amtagvi to patients since approval while continuing to serve patients in our global clinical trials. We're actively hiring at ICTC to support the continued ramp in the U.S. commercial demand and our clinical pipeline. The ICTC location in Philadelphia provides access to an experienced workforce with cell and gene therapy experience as well as innovative partnerships with local colleges and trade groups. Within our manufacturing network, a contract manufacturer site is also approved by the FDA for commercial manufacturing of Amtagvi and provides additional capacity and flexibility to closely match supply and demand. Turning to commercial manufacturing updates, our experience to date has been consistent with our expectations and with prior clinical experience. We are executing and scaling up as planned. Since the FDA approval in February, we have been continuously increasing our staff and manufacturing capacity month over month to closely align it with the growing commercial demand. We have sufficient capacity and staffing available in our manufacturing network to meet the increasing Amtagvi demand. We are now running our manufacturing network at high capacity utilization while ensuring slot availability for our ATCs. In addition, the turnaround time for Amtagvi has been on target with our launch plans of approximately 34 days from receipt of patient samples at our manufacturing facility to return shipment of the product to the ATC. As we scale up, we're also focused on improving the cost of goods over time through economies of scale and operational efficiencies and by leveraging our competitive advantage and unique position as the leader in TIL cell therapy. Turning to our facility expansion efforts, they are closely aligned with our demand growth projections. ICTC has built today the capacity to provide TIL therapies for more than 2,000 patients per year. Following the recent EU regulatory submission and additional planned ex-U.S. filings, we expect ICTC to provide commercial Amtagvi to patients in Europe and beyond upon potential approvals in those geographies. We're in the process of building out the existing shelf space at ICTC so this facility can supply TIL therapies for more than 5,000 patients annually in the next few years. Longer term, our vision is to supply TIL cell therapies for over 10,000 patients annually from the ICTC campus. We have an option to construct another building on the adjacent lot and plan to drive additional efficiencies by incorporating increased automation in our manufacturing process. Importantly, our manufacturing capabilities are protected by a robust intellectual property portfolio. Iovance currently owns more than 210 granted or allowed U.S. and international patents and patent rights for Amtagvi and other TIL-related technologies that are expected to provide exclusivity through at least 2042. In summary, the Iovance team is excited and firmly committed to manufacturing and delivering Amtagvi and our investigational TIL cell therapies for patients with cancer. I'm available to answer additional questions during the Q&A, and I will now hand the call over to Jean-Marc, our Chief Financial Officer.

Jean-Marc Bellemin, Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Igor. Today, I will review our current cash position as well as our results for the second quarter and first half ended on June 30, 2024. I will also highlight our financial outlook, including revenue and expense guidance. As of July 24, 2024, Iovance had an unaudited cash position of approximately $449.6 million, which includes net proceeds of approximately $200 million raised from an at-the-market equity financing facility during the second and third quarter of 2024. The current cash position and anticipated product revenue are expected to be sufficient to fund current and planned operations into 2026. Iovance had $346.3 million in cash, cash equivalents, investment, and restricted cash at the end of December 31, 2023. I will now transition to our second quarter and year-to-date financial results. Net loss for the second quarter of 2024 was $97.1 million or $0.34 per share, compared to a net loss of $106.5 million, or $0.47 per share, for the second quarter ended June 30, 2023. Net loss for the first half of 2024 was $210.1 million, or $0.76 per share, compared to a net loss of $213.9 million, or $0.98 per share for the six months period ended June 30, 2023. Revenue was $31.1 million for the second quarter of 2024 and consisted of product revenue from the initial quarter of Amtagvi sales as well as recurring revenue from Proleukin. We recognized revenue of $12.8 million from completed Amtagvi infusions. We also recognized $18.3 million in global revenue from Proleukin during our initial quarter in supplying U.S. specialty distributors. Revenue for the first half of 2024 was $31.8 million and consisted of product revenue from both Proleukin and Amtagvi. Revenue for the first half of 2023 was $0.2 million for global sales of Proleukin, which we began to recognize during the three months period ended June 30, 2023. Revenue increases in the second quarter and first half of 2024 over the prior year periods were primarily attributable to the U.S. launch of Amtagvi as well as significant growth in U.S. Proleukin revenue for use in the Amtagvi treatment regimen. As Fred mentioned, Proleukin is a strong leading indicator for near-term Amtagvi growth. Revenue recognition for Proleukin is a few months earlier than Amtagvi when specialty distributors and ATCs purchased Proleukin in advance of Amtagvi infusions. Notably, Proleukin second quarter revenue surpassed annual global revenue for Proleukin in 2023, reflecting strong demand for use with Amtagvi. In addition, specialty distributors that purchased Proleukin in the second quarter have already started restocking, which is another positive signal of the strong Amtagvi launch and increasing demand for Proleukin used with Amtagvi. Cost of sales for the three months and six months ended June 30, 2024 was $31.4 million and $38.6 million, respectively, primarily related to costs associated with sales of Amtagvi and Proleukin, certain costs associated with patient drop off and manufacturing success rates, non-cash amortization expense for intangible assets, and royalties payable on product sales. Cost of sales for both the three months and six months ended June 30, 2023 was $2.1 million, primarily related to non-cash amortization for intangible assets. The increase in cost of sales in the second quarter and first half of 2024 over the prior year periods were primarily attributable to the initiation of commercial manufacturing and related costs for the U.S. launch of Amtagvi during the first half of 2024. Cost of sales is a function of volume and capacity utilization, which is already improving as we scale up our available capacity. In addition, education and training to optimize patient selection and tumor sample resections, as well as a continued focus on operational efficiencies are expected to optimize cost of sales over time as we aim to reach our target gross margin of more than 70% over the next several years. Research and development expenses were $62.1 million for the second quarter of 2024, a decrease of $24.2 million compared to $86.3 million for the same period ended June 30, 2023. Research and development expenses were $141.9 million for the six months ended June 30, 2024; a decrease of $27.2 million, compared to $169.1 million for the same period ended June 30, 2023. The decreases in research and development expenses in the second quarter and first half of 2024 over the prior year periods were primarily attributable to the transition of Amtagvi to commercial manufacturing, which decreased the costs associated with certain clinical activities in the first half of 2024 and the completion of pre-commercial qualification activities in 2023. The decrease in research and development was partially offset by an increase in stock-based compensation resulting from growth in headcount. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $39.6 million for the second quarter of June 2024; an increase of $17.7 million compared to $21.9 million for the same period ended June 30, 2023. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $71 million for the first half of 2024 and an increase of $21 million compared to $50 million for the same six months period ended June 30, 2023. The increase in selling, general and administrative expenses in the second quarter and first half of 2024 compared to the prior year periods was primarily attributable to the increase in headcount and related costs, including stock-based compensation to support the growth in the overall business and related corporate infrastructure, as well as legal costs and costs incurred to support the commercialization of Amtagvi and Proleukin. Next, I would like to cover our financial outlook for the Amtagvi launch and future expenses. As Fred highlighted earlier in his introduction around revenue guidance, we expect quarter-over-quarter and annual growth in product revenue to continue for the next several years with the steepening U.S. adoption curve for Amtagvi. Geographic and regulatory expansion, as well as new product approvals may also add to our growth trajectory in 2026 and beyond. I will highlight our guidance numbers again as a reminder. In the third quarter of 2024, we expect total product revenue within the range of $53 million to $55 million. We anticipate total product revenue for the full year 2024 within the range of $160 million to $165 million. In the full year 2025, we expect a significant year-over-year increase in annual product revenue of $450 million to $475 million. In addition, as Fred mentioned, gross margins are expected to increase to greater than 70% over the next several years. Regarding our expense outlook, we continue to reiterate full year 2024 cash burn guidance in the range of $320 million to $340 million, excluding one-time expenses. We will also continue to leverage opportunities to optimize spending. For additional information, please see the Company’s Selected Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets and Statements of Operations in this afternoon’s press release and our Form 10-Q to be filed later today. I will now hand the call to Friedrich, our Chief Medical Officer, to discuss our clinical pipeline.

Friedrich Finckenstein, Chief Medical Officer

Thank you so much. As my colleagues have conveyed, Amtagvi is only the tip of the iceberg for the potential of TIL cell therapy in solid tumors, which represent more than 90% of all diagnosed cancers in the U.S. I would like to acknowledge my own personal excitement and the rewarding experience for our Iovance clinical development teams as we hear frequent ATC feedback about patients benefiting from Amtagvi in the commercial setting. This is great news that also motivates our clinical teams to develop and deliver TIL cell therapy to cancer patients in additional therapeutic settings and with additional tumor types. Today, I will focus on key clinical pipeline highlights, including two ongoing registrational trials from this afternoon's press release. I'll begin with the frontline advanced melanoma setting, a key priority with the potential for lifileucel to address thousands of additional patients. Our global registrational Phase 3 trial TILVANCE-301 remains on track to support accelerated and full approvals of Amtagvi in combination with pembrolizumab in frontline advanced melanoma, as well as regular approval of Amtagvi in post-anti-PD-1 melanoma. Enrollment is strong across geographies with high enthusiasm for site participation. More than 40 sites are currently active across 10 countries, including the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia, with 60 additional sites selected across 18 countries total. Iovance does careful feasibility assessments for each site selection, at which time the sites also commit to participate. Site activation includes institutional ethics board approvals and scientific reviews of the TILVANCE trial design, including the pembrolizumab monotherapy control arm and its fit with local standards of care for the enrolled patient population. We also believe the option to cross over to TIL therapy from the control arm is attractive to patients. As a reminder, TILVANCE-301 is supported by previously published data on TIL monotherapy in the pre-immune checkpoint inhibitor era and importantly, lifileucel beta in advanced melanoma patients who were naïve to immune checkpoint inhibitors in Cohort 1A of our IOV-COM-202 trials in solid tumors. In our ASCO oral presentation in May, updated Cohort 1A data demonstrated an unprecedented rate, depth, and durability of responses, including a more than 60% overall response rate (ORR), a 30% complete response rate, and a differentiated safety profile. A new proof-of-concept Cohort 1B is also beginning in the IOV-COM-202 trial to investigate lifileucel in combination with nivolumab and relatlimab in patients with frontline advanced melanoma. This novel combination represents another potential best-in-class frontline alternative for physicians and patients. Shifting to non-small cell lung cancer, enrollment continues to accelerate with strong demand in our single-arm registrational Phase 2 trial IOV-LUN-202 in post-anti-PD-1 non-small cell lung cancer. We expect to complete enrollment and report top-line data for the IOV-LUN-202 registrational cohorts in 2025 and submit a potential supplemental biologics license application to the FDA in 2026. We are confident in the IOV-LUN-202 trial based on the positive preliminary data. Also, the FDA provided positive regulatory feedback on our proposed potency matrix as well as the single-arm trial design to support accelerated approval of lifileucel in post-anti-PD-1 non-small cell lung cancer. We have also initiated the multicenter IOV-END-201 Phase 2 trial to investigate lifileucel in post-anti-PD-1 endometrial cancer patients, regardless of mismatch repair or MMR status. There is an unmet medical need and no currently approved treatment options for the vast majority of patients with endometrial cancer in the post-anti-PD-1 treatment setting. This unmet need will become more relevant as immune checkpoint inhibitors move into the frontline setting in combination with chemotherapy. Combined with the enthusiasm from gynecological oncologists, we expect IOV-END-201 to enroll quickly and we look forward to presenting initial data soon. As the leader in TIL cell therapy, Iovance is at the forefront of next-generation approaches to optimize TIL and TIL treatment regimens. We are investigating a next-generation PD-1 inactivated TIL cell therapy, IOV-4001, in a clinical trial in previously treated advanced melanoma and non-small cell lung cancer patients. Two additional next-generation programs are in IND-enabling studies and are approaching clinical trials in the near-term. IOV-3001 is a next-generation interleukin-2, or IL-2, analog for use with the TIL treatment regimen. Preclinical data supports the potential for improved safety with robust effector T-cell expansion driven by IOV-3001. IOV-5001 is a genetically engineered TIL cell therapy with inducible interleukin-12 or IL-12. IOV-5001 has augmented TIL antitumor activity in preclinical studies and may improve safety via the tethering of IL-2 to the TIL. As noted in this afternoon's press release, we renewed our Cooperative Research and Development Agreement or CRADA, to collaborate with the U.S. National Cancer Institute or NCI, on preclinical and clinical development of enhanced tumor-reactive TIL products. Additional details about our development programs are included in today's press release as well as in the corporate slide deck and scientific presentations on our website. I'm happy to address questions about these programs and additional trials during the Q&A session. I now turn the call over to the operator to begin the question-and-answer session.

Operator, Operator

Our first question comes from Michael Yee with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Michael Yee, Analyst

Hey guys, thanks. Congrats on a good execution of the launch and good guidance. We just wanted to ask two questions on the guidance. Does the guidance number include Proleukin revenues built into that? I know it's not a huge amount, but just want to make it square and accurate. And then can you talk to the $18 million of Proleukin as a leading indicator? Does that imply a certain amount of patience or a certain amount of time? Or is it just distributors buying it up? We try to back into that as maybe a cue of demand. And so I just want to think about your numbers on Proleukin and perhaps related to that, if it may just ask differently, do you have any numbers on the patient enrollment forms to think about the Q? Thanks so much.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Mike, the guidance does include Proleukin, so all the guidance numbers that we put out include Proleukin revenues as well as Amtagvi revenues. Now on the Proleukin revenue number for this quarter that represents sort of the leading indicator for what we think will be Amtagvi demand over the next couple of quarters. You can model it any way you see fit. It's a large number of infusions. We've given you the number of infusions through very recently. It's more than 55 now. And you can use that to estimate where we're going. But the whole point of us giving guidance is so that you can rely on our internal understanding of infusions and Proleukin demand and see what the upswing is going to look like here. It's a very positive uptake of both Proleukin and especially Amtagvi.

Michael Yee, Analyst

Yes. So to clarify, it's a buying up of a certain amount from distributors, but not like a one-for-one or a certain amount of time. It's just an indicator?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

It's just an indicator. And they've already started restocking. I can't stress that enough. They've already started reloading because they've sold a lot of that product already.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Lawson with Barclays. Your line is open.

Peter Lawson, Analyst

Thanks. Thanks for the guidance, Fred, and congrats on the progress. For the Q3 guidance, what's the breakout of IL-2 versus TIL? Same question for the full year as well? And then for the IL-2 revenues this quarter, what was the proportion of that IL-2 that was used for TIL therapy?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, we don't have. We're not going to provide guidance on the individual products. We're just going to provide the aggregate guidance. You can probably model it by understanding the amount of Proleukin that's used for Amtagvi patients because I'm going to answer your second question ahead of time here. We don't know exactly how much of our Proleukin gets used in the Amtagvi regimen, but you can hear from Jean-Marc’s comments earlier and from the experience of Proleukin in the industry for many years. It's got to be the vast majority of it getting used for Amtagvi. We have no way of tracking that from an accounting perspective, but it's being. Obviously, the massive upswing in Proleukin sales is driven by Amtagvi.

Peter Lawson, Analyst

Gotcha. Okay, thanks so much.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrea Tan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Andrea Tan, Analyst

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Fred, I'm curious here, just given where you stand in the launch in your sixth month and what is driving your confidence for a full year 2025 guidance given where you are now? And then, just curious if you plan on providing metrics around demand, such as the patient enrollments or screening as you have in past quarters? Thanks so much.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Andrea, we may provide some additional guidance on – we're not, you won't hear us talking about enrollments anymore. It's really not relevant anymore. All that matters now is infusions, which is a revenue-generating event. So we may talk a bit about that as we go over the next, whatever, four quarters or five quarters here. But really what we're trying to do with the guidance is give you the big number so you don't have to worry about enrollments and that sort of thing. You can figure out what we're seeing in terms of infusions. What's giving us guidance on that fiscal year 2025 guidance, the full year 2025 guidance. We can see the launch, we see how we're doing. We know all the dynamics. We know how many ATCs are coming on board. We know what we think they're going to do. We know our manufacturing capacity and all the details around that stuff that would be very difficult, I think, for the street to model in some cases. So we're going to provide it for you so you have clarity on what we're seeing. We are very, very confident in that guidance based on what we're seeing so far in the initial part of the launch, because we've got such a good picture of launch dynamics right now.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Yanan Zhu with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

Yanan Zhu, Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress here. So I guess I have a couple of questions on patient numbers. You gave the patient infused – the infusion – number of infusions since the start of this quarter, which is 30 patients. Given that there will be, you have talked about month-to-month increase and quarter-over-quarter increase. Can we assume that over the next two months, within the current quarter, you will have patient numbers that will exceed the 30 patient number there? And also on patient number, just wanted to understand, have there been patients that have been resected around the same time as the 30 patient and who did not receive the product, i.e., trying to get a sense of the ongoing attrition rate, whether that's due to manufacturing issues or patient progression. If you can give some color there, that would be super helpful. Thank you.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

To answer your second question first, the patient dropout rates and manufacturing success rate remain consistent with what we saw in the clinical trial experience. So we're seeing that today, we can obviously further optimize that. Part of the reason we're giving guidance is so that you don't have to necessarily factor that all in. We can see that pretty clearly and understand that. And as we go, we may provide more details on that once we have a larger end in our data set here. But right now we feel very good about those numbers. And then you asked a question, I couldn't fully understand what you were getting at with the patient numbers. We've already done more than 30 patients this quarter, meaning the third quarter, the quarter we currently sit in than we did in the quarter or second quarter that we're reporting for. We expect that to obviously accelerate considerably such that by the end of the third quarter, the numbers are going to be much higher. I'm not sure if that answers your question or if you want to phrase it differently, I can try it again.

Yanan Zhu, Analyst

Right. So given that you infused more than 30 patients this quarter, but this quarter still has a couple of months to go, right. So I'm just trying to understand, what's your assumption for this quarter, the patient number for this quarter, given that you only gave the revenue guidance, which includes Proleukin and at this current stage, I think it's a little hard for us to understand the Proleukin revenue contribution because there's a lot of stocking going on. So it's hard for us to see the patient number. If you can help us understand the patient number for this quarter, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

We have an estimated number for this quarter that's a lot higher than 30. I can't give you that number today. I can tell you that it will be significantly higher and we'll track out the way we think – we will track out to give you $53 million to $55 million in revenue with a good portion of that being Proleukin, especially restocking of Proleukin. That's the most color I can give you right now.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Van Buren with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Tyler Van Buren, Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Just a couple. So you gave basically some metrics on time to manufacturing, which is consistent and reimbursement. But what's the average time from the beginning from opt-in to infusion? And then the second one is around kind of how much you're netting per infusion and gross margins. I suppose if you guide to target gross margin of 70% over the next few years, that would assume roughly 360 on the 515 list. So it has to be lower currently. And we're getting some inbounds with cost of sales being the same as product revenue for this quarter. So more color on that and how much is fixed versus variable and how it might evolve over time would be super helpful?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. We currently, right now, see the entire enrollment process, meaning reimbursement approval, the financial single case agreement, all the stuff we talked about endlessly on these calls, as well as scheduling, getting in line for resection. The whole thing takes about three or four weeks right now. So I hope that answers the first part of your question. That's where it is today, and that's getting quite close to where we want it to be long term. On the netting, I think with respect to gross margin, we've already given you the number. Are you asking about gross to net on the product? You mentioned discounting, and I'm not sure exactly what you were talking about from a financial perspective. Gross to net on the product is very low.

Tyler Van Buren, Analyst

Yes. Currently, how much you're netting with each infusion, and how you expect that to evolve in the coming quarters?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

All right. So gross to net right now is less than 0.5%, and we expect it to stay around there, less than 0.5%.

Tyler Van Buren, Analyst

But I guess the question is, cost of sales are the same as product revenue. So it's a lot – I mean, is a lot of that fixed? I mean, and obviously, if it's a 70% gross margin, it's not 0.5% currently, right, 0.5% currently.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

I think so, I'm going to probably need Jean-Marc to help here, but maybe some of this is lost in the definition of cost of sales that we're using.

Jean-Marc Bellemin, Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Just chiming in and trying to answer Tyler's question. So what you will see in the 10-Q and all the detail is obviously our cost of sales in total, which is $38 million. If you look at the year-to-date, June 2024, we don't have any specific gross margin to give for the product or product by product because it's a total. But just know that on the cost of sales, you will have, of course, other things than only cost of product – cost of goods sold itself because you have intangible assets that you need to take into account. You have royalty to take into account. So you cannot draw exactly what's the conclusion on the gross margin. But we are committed, again in the next several years to reach this 70% because we believe that where we stand today in terms of cost of sales for our product make us confident for reaching the 70% in the next few years.

Tyler Van Buren, Analyst

Thanks.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ben Burnett with Stifel. Your line is open.

Ben Burnett, Analyst

Hey, thank you very much. And again appreciate or congrats on all the progress on a great quarter. Question just on the cash guidance that Jean-Marc you were talking about, to what extent do you consider product revenue when calculating that cash runway?

Jean-Marc Bellemin, Chief Financial Officer

Yes, we do take into account the product revenue, but to be honest with you, Ben, we are very conservative. So that's why we're confident in saying with the recent $200 million we just raised to be able to go into 2026, and that includes all the spending in terms of investment in increasing manufacturing capability and capacity and all our operational spend. So we are very conservative and very confident about that.

Ben Burnett, Analyst

Okay, thank you. And so just to clarify, so when thinking about kind of the spending going forward, we shouldn't just assume that that cash guidance is assuming the product guidance exactly?

Jean-Marc Bellemin, Chief Financial Officer

We do take into account what we are telling you around the $450 million to $475 million in 2025 obviously. This is our baseline to look into a cash burn for the cash overall situation for next year. But that's the top line after you have to take into account also some one-time expenses we may have into increasing capability and capacity at iCTC, for example, but again very confident in giving the guidance into 2026 as a cash in the end.

Ben Burnett, Analyst

Excellent. Okay, and maybe just one follow-up. What is kind of the timeframe for expanding the manufacturing capacity to 5,000?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Igor, do you want to handle that one?

Igor Bilinsky, Chief Operating Officer

Happy to, so right now the network is built to a couple of thousand patients per year capacity. And within the existing ICTC facility, as you recall we have shelf space that we're now building out, and that build out will bring the ICTC to over 5,000 patients per year capacity, and that build out should be completed in a couple of years.

Ben Burnett, Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Igor Bilinsky, Chief Operating Officer

Of course.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Colleen Kusy with Baird. Your line is open.

Colleen Kusy, Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. Can you comment on the manufacturing success rate and just kind of what happens when there is an unsuccessful manufacturing run? Does that just get filtered into COGS? And then for the fiscal year 2025 guidance, how much is the contribution expected to be from Europe?

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Jean-Marc, do you want to talk a little bit about how it works with the manufacturing, like an out of spec and how that goes into the COGS?

Jean-Marc Bellemin, Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So, Colleen, thanks for the question. I appreciate that. The out of spec and all the scrap will go and you will see that in the queue. As part of our cost of sales, because when the project is not being infused by the patient because of patient ails or other situations like that, and out of spec, of course, we have to take it into account what stage of production it was. So it will be taken into account as part of cost of sales. If it is going into potentially some kind of, in its case by case situation, clinical use, then we will switch into OpEx. We will switch it back to OpEx as part of our clinical spend in that case.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

And Colleen, I can answer no, the European revenue is not factored into anything right now. That will come online as I said in my remarks a little bit later, we expect and will give us even more tailwinds in 2026 and beyond.

Colleen Kusy, Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Asthika Goonewardene with Truist. Your line is open.

Asthika Goonewardene, Analyst

Hey guys, thanks for the question and appreciate all the color and the patience with all our questions today on this. I'm going to ask one more on the guidance here. Maybe you can give a little color if the proportion of the product revenue guidance that is attributable to Proleukin? Is that right to assume that the contribution slides down with each progressing period, or is it a fixed component each period – and then each period provided? And then of the 25 patients that were treated in 2Q what proportion of these patients was reimbursement sought on a single case basis and how is that shifted into the 30 patients already treated today in 3Q? Thanks.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Asthika, the way to think about it is if Amtagvi has a price of Proleukin as a price you multiply the Proleukin price by the number of vials, you expect. You're going to get what I think you referred to as a fixed combination, which is a fixed percentage. So ultimately, Amtagvi patients that get Proleukin, there's going to be a percentage between the total cost of those two drugs. What percentage Proleukin contributes and what percentage Amtagvi contributes. You can calculate it pretty easily. It's roughly in the ballpark of about 15%. We can calculate that out more detail for you, but I'm sure you can do the math. For the 25 patients in the single case agreement, we do single case agreements for every patient. They just go faster and faster. Maybe Jim could add a little bit of color on those 25 patients?

Jim Ziegler, Executive Vice President, Commercial

Yep. Thanks, Fred. So the payer mix that we're seeing currently in the early days of launch mirrors what we had previously shared prior to launch. So prior authorizations and single case agreements primarily apply to the private payers, which you will recall was about three quarters of the patients. That's what we're seeing right now in the early months of launch, a payer mix that's very consistent. So about 75%.

Asthika Goonewardene, Analyst

Thanks, guys.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Fred Vogt for closing remarks.

Fred Vogt, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you again for joining the Iovance Biotherapeutics second quarter and first half 2024 financial results and corporate updates conference call. We're honored to disclose the first revenues for the first commercial TIL cell therapy and look forward to providing further updates on the progress of our Amtagvi launch as well as continued developments in our pipeline and future updates. It's already been a monumental year for Iovance and we continue to be motivated as we hear media and social media, how Amtagvi is providing hope to patients with metastatic melanoma. As always, we are thankful for the patients, healthcare and advocacy communities, our partners, and our exceptional Iovance team. I would also like to thank our shareholders and covering analysts for their support. Please feel free to reach out to our investor relations team for follow-up. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.