Earnings Call
Kulicke & Soffa Industries Inc (KLIC)
Earnings Call Transcript - KLIC Q1 2024
Operator, Operator
Greetings and welcome to the Kulicke & Soffa 2024 First Quarter Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Joe Elgindy, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Thank you. Please begin.
Joseph Elgindy, Senior Director, Investor Relations
Thank you. Welcome, everyone, to Kulicke & Soffa’s fiscal first quarter 2024 conference call. Fusen Chen, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer, are also joining on today's call. Non-GAAP financial measures, referenced today, should be considered in addition to, not as a substitute for, or in isolation from, our GAAP financial information. GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation tables are included within our latest earnings release, and earnings presentation. Both are available at investor.kns.com, along with prepared remarks for today’s call. In addition to historical statements, today's remarks will contain statements relating to future events and our future results. These statements are "forward-looking" statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, and are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results and financial condition to differ materially from the statements made today. For a complete discussion of the risks associated with Kulicke & Soffa that could affect our future results and financial condition, please refer to our recent and upcoming SEC filings, specifically our most recently filed Form 10-K, and the 8-K filed yesterday. With that said, I will now turn the call over to Fusen Chen for the business overview. Please go ahead, Fusen.
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone. Looking ahead into fiscal 2024, we remain focused and optimistic. Our businesses remain on track to support new levels of value creation as our core market recovers. We continue to anticipate a return to an above-average industry growth rate by the end of the fiscal year. As the semiconductor industry returns to a more normal growth pattern through fiscal 2024, we remain in dominant leadership positions across core markets and will continue to aggressively drive key strategic initiatives providing additional paths to long-term value creation and profitability. Specifically, these strategic initiatives are centered around three key businesses – Ball Bonding, Advanced Packaging, and Advanced Display. I will provide additional details to each of these points shortly, but first I would like to summarize our financial performance, end market observations, and share an update on the Advanced Dispense business. For the December quarter we delivered $171.2 million of revenue, just above our guidance midpoint, with GAAP net income of $9.3 million and non-GAAP earnings per share of 30 cents. From a market standpoint, the fiscal first quarter was aligned with seasonal expectations. Based on external market forecasts, customer feedback, and discussions, we continue to anticipate improvements over the course of 2024 with more significant demand in the second half of 2024. We anticipate overall industry conditions will remain favorable going into 2025 as we expand our market positions. Over recent months, we have made significant progress with our Advanced Dispense business and are actively competing for several opportunities in parallel. We continue to target key opportunities across our served end markets which require high-precision dispense capabilities combined with world-class motion control capabilities, for which K&S is known. Initial customer feedback has been strong, and we are increasingly confident we will leverage and grow these opportunities over the coming years. Turning to the end-market review, we continue to see signs of broader cyclical improvement, and also anticipate gradual recovery through the fiscal year. Seasonal dynamics impacted our December quarter results, as expected, this effect was most pronounced within General Semiconductor. Here, we experienced softer demand due to seasonal patterns which affected the Ball Bonding business and softer power semiconductor market conditions which affected our Wedge Bonding business. The power semiconductor market is going through a period of inventory and capacity digestion causing a near-term headwind in Wedge Bonding. We continue to expect trends in power semiconductor to improve over the long-term and support growth of our Wedge Bonding business. For Ball Bonding, we anticipate the demand environment to improve as semiconductor unit growth returns in fiscal 2024. Next, LED has remained relatively soft with demand primarily attributable to general lighting. We remain focused on the existing qualification engagements for both LUMINEX and Project W and I will share an update to both opportunities shortly. Within Automotive & Industrial, macro and industry factors have impacted the near-term demand for our Wedge solutions. Despite the well-known softness in the automotive sector in the near-term, we continue to anticipate specific opportunities for K&S in the battery assembly space later this year. This specific battery opportunity is unique to K&S and will help mitigate some of the existing demand softness affecting the broader automotive market. Longer-term, as semiconductor content and complexity within vehicles advances, we remain strategically aligned with automotive trends. We will continue to provide leading-class equipment to support the transition to more advanced and sustainable vehicles, including efficient power delivery and storage applications. Finally, within Memory, we have seen demand improve significantly for our leading NAND solutions across multiple customers. Memory revenue in the first fiscal quarter exceeded revenue for the prior fiscal year. This strong improvement provides further confidence that we are past trough in the memory market and we continue to actively pursue near and long-term strategies to expand share in high-volume and leading-edge DRAM applications. During the December quarter, we have also booked revenue for multiple systems capable of supporting vertical-fan-out applications in production and remain very positive on the long-term potential of this smart packaging approach. We currently anticipate overall end market demand will return to a more normalized level by the end of fiscal 2024 and continue well into fiscal 2025. As we prepare for this next period of demand recovery, we are extremely focused on executing key K&S opportunities which will further diversify revenue, expand market growth, and sustainably enhance earnings potential over the long-term. I would like to provide a brief update on our unique positions within the Ball Bonding, Advanced Packaging, and Advanced Display opportunities. The semiconductor assembly market continues to evolve, and we are well-positioned to add more industry value in the form of power efficiency, performance, package-level transistor density, and cost. This technology-driven evolution within assembly is demanding more feature-rich and capable assembly solutions which we are well prepared to deliver. These semiconductor opportunities will continue to benefit our Ball Bonding and Advanced Packaging businesses over the long-term. Within Ball Bonding, we continue to deliver new feature-rich solutions which will further extend our leadership positions, drive share gains and also help enhance and sustain long-term gross margins. Our initial two systems, POWERCOMM and POWERNEXX, were recently released and have been well received by customers. We are ramping the production of these initial systems during the March quarter. As explained on previous calls, the Ball Bonding process remains the most dominant and cost-effective solution for both high-volume single and multi-die packages. As a pioneer in Ball Bonding with decades of industry leadership, we continue to maintain a dominant market share in these key growth areas. Additionally, we continue to see many consumer, mobile, and IoT-based applications in high-volume markets seeking new packaging approaches. These new approaches provide greater levels of transistor density at the package level and provide K&S with opportunities to add additional value. Within ball bonding, these technology-driven changes are demanding more complex looping and higher wire-count per package. Our market leadership and persistent development efforts provide a unique position to drive industry-level changes. Currently, we see new markets emerging in shielding and also within high-potential stacked-die applications, such as vertical-fan-out, which are providing specific, long-term and unique opportunities for the Company. New shielding applications are being deployed for both long and short-distance wireless communications. As bandwidth increases and wireless communications become more ingrained in consumer electronics, we expect ongoing growth in this new wire bonding market. This shielding approach was in development a few years ago and has now been broadly adopted by OSAT and IDMs and is utilized in high-volume production. We expect these shielding needs to continue supporting near-term recovery and long-term growth in the Ball Bonding market. Similar to where shielding was a few years ago, there has recently been significant interest from customers for our vertical-fan-out, or VFO, solution. This new opportunity is anticipated to further extend our memory market access over the course of fiscal year 2024. Over the next few years, we anticipate similar vertical wire approaches will provide a cost-effective alternative to Through-Silicon-Vias, or TSVs, for high-volume 3D applications beyond the initial adoption within the memory market. The value of VFO stems from its ability to create a complex 3D structure which provides form-factor, power efficiency improvements, and significant cost benefits over alternative advanced packaging solutions. One customer has reported a 27 percent improvement in form-factor and 5 percent improvement in power efficiency along with allowing higher I/O count and better heat dissipation. During the December quarter we booked VFO system revenue of just over $0.5 million to a first-moving customer as they refine their production approach. We are currently engaged with three leading memory customers who are seeking cost-effective 3D packaging approaches. Initially, we anticipate DRAM applications, such as Low Power DDR, LPDDR, to move into low volume production in calendar year 2024 and higher volume production in 2025. Based on initial customer feedback, there is also strong interest and potential that VFO can be deployed for high-bandwidth-memory applications in the next few years. Shielding, VFO, and the overall growth of high-volume multi-die applications have increased the growth rate, technology needs, and our competitive position within the sizeable Ball Bonding market. We believe we are best positioned to leverage these new market opportunities long-term. Turning to Advanced Packaging, we continue to actively support several customer engagements in parallel and anticipate additional orders from OSAT, IDM, and Foundry customers as we complete key evaluations and qualifications. In addition to our incumbent position in high-volume semiconductor markets, our advanced packaging efforts have allowed us to gain share in new high-growth markets including leading-edge logic, mobility, and co-packaged optics. We are increasingly confident in the longevity and market potential of our TCB portfolio and expect to extend the technology well beyond the previously targeted 10 micron pitch. Reaching below this 10 micron threshold will further unlock the flexibility and long-term potential of our TCB solutions. We increasingly anticipate TCB will be an essential component to leading-edge assembly for many years to come. In addition to finer-pitch capabilities which extend bandwidth and transistor density, our TCB solutions also provide direct copper-to-copper interconnects. Direct copper-to-copper connections are best-in-class due to low resistance and high performance. Our Fluxless TCB solution is well-positioned to enable this industry breakthrough across high-volume and leading-edge heterogeneous markets. We are confident in our significant technology lead in Thermocompression which we intend to extend further. Demand for our solutions is rising, and we are running several qualifications, with OSAT, IDM, and Foundry customers, in parallel. Over the coming weeks, we intend to ship several more qualification systems supporting Fluxless TCB. I look forward to sharing new product and customer milestones over the next few quarters as we drive broader market adoption. Finally, within Advanced Display, we continue to expand access into the broadening mini and micro-LED markets. Our growing portfolio supports the evolving display market serving small-format, high-performance mobile displays as well as large-format high-volume and direct-emissive displays. We expect to secure a qualification win for LUMINEX later this fiscal year. LUMINEX provides a dedicated mini-LED solution which will be increasingly necessary as mini-LED die size continues to shrink. At this year’s Consumer Electronics Show, it has become clear that mini-LED technology is a significant performance enabler for the LCD market. Mini LED displays have improved over the past years delivering higher levels of brightness and quality and leveraging the large installed base of LCD capacity. As die-size reduces, we are confident the industry will require a dedicated, high-throughput solution such as our LUMINEX system. Our other key opportunity in display is Project W, and I am happy to report that we are reaching new milestones, expect to ship additional capacity during the March quarter, and recognize revenue during the upcoming June quarter. As we work to successfully qualify a previously shipped system, we are beginning to ramp production in support of our customer’s long-term capacity plan. Our global R&D, operations, facilities, and supply-chain teams have been working tirelessly to support this major initiative and we look forward to sharing more information over the coming quarters. It remains a very dynamic and interesting time at the company. As our core market recovers, we are again transitioning into a more optimized and more diversified company. We are very excited to reach new milestones across our growing markets. Looking through fiscal 2024, we continue to anticipate gradual unit demand recovery and also technology-driven growth as our core market evolves and we continue to extend our foothold in new markets. Customer interest and momentum across our emerging portfolio remains strong. We look forward to releasing a steady pace of new systems, new features, and also announcing new customer and technology wins as the core business returns to a more normalized growth rate. With that said, I will now turn the call over to Lester who will discuss our financial performance and outlook, Lester?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Fusen. My remarks today will refer to GAAP results, unless noted. While there continue to be headwinds across specific end markets related to macroeconomic and industry conditions, it remains a very exciting time for the Company. Our core market has shown signs of improvement and we are reaching new milestones with key customer engagements which provide new market access and enhance our long-term financial potential. During the December quarter, we generated $171.2 million of revenue, a 46.7% gross margin, and $30 of non-GAAP EPS. Gross margins were aligned with expectations and are anticipated to improve with volume and new product launches. Non-GAAP operating expenses also met expectations, at $69.8 million. Finally, tax came in just ahead of expectations at just below our longer-term, 20% effective tax rate. Turning to the balance sheet, working capital days increased from 448 to 524 days in the December quarter. Over this period the absolute value of working capital decreased slightly. Our repurchase program remains opportunistic, and we have increased our repurchase activity sequentially, to $26.8 million during the December quarter, nearly three times the value repurchased in the prior quarter. Additionally, we recently raised our quarterly dividend to $20 per share. This has allowed us to maintain an industry-leading dividend yield – nearly 1.6% as of our most recent payable date on January 9th. Looking out through fiscal 2024, we continue to invest in the future and are anticipating Capital Expenditures to be $23 million to $27 million. These investments will support growth over the coming years and will be deployed to enhance and expand operations, facilities, R&D, and corporate systems. Considering the ongoing softness in Automotive and Power semiconductor, which is affecting near-term demand for our Wedge Bonder solutions, we anticipate revenue of approximately $170 million, plus or minus $10 million, with gross margins of 47% in the March quarter. Non-GAAP operating expenses are anticipated to increase slightly to $72.5 million, plus or minus 2%. We remain focused on controlling and limiting non-critical activities, although we continue to ramp headcount, where necessary, to support our growing set of customer engagements. Non-GAAP net income for the March quarter is expected to be approximately $14 million with non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of approximately $25. In closing, over the long history of the company, we have never enjoyed so many different market and growth opportunities. The core semiconductor assembly market continues to evolve and is adding more value to the industry. New levels of capabilities are optimizing our high-volume business which will see demand recovery over the coming quarters. As this core market recovery is underway, we are taking share and expanding our position in leading-edge logic applications, memory, automotive transitions, and high-potential display opportunities which will add diversification and meaningfully enhance free-cash-flow generation over the coming years. Finally, we are starting to see material opportunities in Advanced Dispense and continue to adopt an active, but cautious, posture in exploring future M&A opportunities. Over the coming quarters, we look forward to sharing new milestones on our progress across this broad set of opportunities. This concludes our prepared comments. Operator, please open the call for questions.
Operator, Operator
Today's first question is coming from Krish Sankar of TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Krish Sankar, Analyst
Hi, thanks for taking my question. I had a couple of them. Number one, Fusen, I think last quarter you said you expected kind of like a sharp recovery in the fiscal second half. I was wondering, is this still true or is it more a calendar second half recovery versus the fiscal second half?
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
I believe that the weakness in the auto industry and the semiconductor policy impacted our outlook for Q2. Additionally, since Q2 is a shorter quarter due to the Chinese New Year, our expectations for this quarter have lowered. While we do see some improvements, we're still optimistic about the second half of the year. We believe the recovery in the industry will significantly enhance our Ball Bonding recovery. Furthermore, we anticipate specific growth in the second half, particularly in display and battery assembly for some customers. Although the delays in Q2 may affect our overall fiscal year 2024 results, we are confident that we will reach our $800 million goal. To summarize, while we are cautious about the Q2 delays, we remain positive about moving forward in the second half. I hope this answers your questions.
Krish Sankar, Analyst
Yes, I got it. Thank you for that, Fusen. And then two other quick questions. One is the timeframe still around April to figure out any kind of TCB qualifications in Taiwan?
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
Okay. So, actually interest in our TCB particularly TCB actually has increased significantly. We currently have multiple engagement with OSAT, IDM, and the Foundry, including top two potential customers. And even some companies, we have multiple engagement projects. So, I believe, we feel pretty good, the qualification or the qualification performing well and we expect a qualification win throughout 2024. Particularly, I think in Foundry process. This actually the engagement projects are advanced new technology, we believe it will take additional quarters or maybe a little bit more to finalize everything. But actually, we feel good about the progress and the overall momentum of our TCB.
Krish Sankar, Analyst
Just a quick one for Lester. Can you just help us understand what was the backlog exiting the quarter and how much was China as a percentage of sales?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
Well, I think the backlog has been coming down as we've talked about before, from the ramp. It's closer now to the normalized, which is close to our lead times. As far as China, China constitutes close to 60% of our revenues in Q1, 46% of it was China-headquartered customers. So, China continues to be an important part of our business, and we do see some strength in China right now.
Operator, Operator
The next question is coming from Dave Duley of Steelhead Securities. Please go ahead.
David Duley, Analyst
Good evening, guys. I was wondering if you could talk about what are some of the signs that you might be seeing now that lead you to believe that your core business is going is in recovery mode? Is it higher utilization rates or customers coming in and asking for capacity? Just talk about what signs or early signs you're seeing for core business recovery.
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
We frequently engage with our customers. From an industry perspective, memory is in a phase of recovery, particularly in relation to phones and the increasing interest in AI phones and PCs. We believe this is a positive development. While I think I can comment more on the deterioration later, it's clear that the industry will likely need new capacity. Some customers are still hesitant, but we expect to see more opportunities in the second half of the year, especially with our Ball Bonder. Additionally, we have projects that we believe will gain traction in the latter half. Lester, would you like to add anything?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
Yes. So, Dave, you're right in terms of utilization. I mean, utilization, obviously, as always, is mixed around different end markets as well as regions. But China, which I mentioned before, it's over 80%, is actually closer to the mid-80s now, and we're seeing some real strength there. The other end markets are also doing very, very well. And also, this is also related to China is memory. For the first time, the last two quarters are over 80%. This hasn't happened since 2022. So, we see a real buildup in utilization in memory, especially in China. So, we feel that would help drive our Ball Bonding business in the quarter and in the second half.
David Duley, Analyst
Okay. And then could you just talk about what your expectations are for unit volume growth for 2024, overall industry unit volume growth? And then maybe characterize what you think it would be in the first half and the second half. It kind of sounds like first half unit volume growth is flattish with an acceleration in the back half, but I'd just like to hear what you guys think about first half and second half?
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
I believe we are looking at a market forecast of high single digits. Currently, the market feels a bit weak, and there is some inventory in the power semiconductor sector. Despite these challenges, the overall semiconductor market remains positive. The first half has proven to be weaker than we initially expected. However, based on feedback from our customers and industry forecasts, we remain optimistic about the second half. While the forecast is also in the high single digits, I think we can still aim for growth rates of 6%, 7%, or even 8% in the second half.
David Duley, Analyst
So, one way to think about that is the growth rate in the first half is probably under 6% to 8%, and it's probably over 6% to 8% in the back half?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
Yes, I would say that it's probably close to flat in the first half. And then I think, as Fusen said, high single digits in the second half.
David Duley, Analyst
Okay. And then you talked a lot about the dispense opportunity. Could you just highlight what sort of revenue opportunity you might have there in dispense in 2024 and 2025? Thank you.
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
Okay. So actually, we are quite excited with our acquisition dispense unit. Actually, this is a huge market and with the TAM, our TAM is about $2 billion. And actually, have adjacency to our business overlap, including a core like a Ball Bonder, display, and SMT. So almost like AV model company, I think they have a need for a dispense. So, what makes us excited is the technology is pretty good. I think we are entering a local micro dispensing, which really needs to have precise dispensing and a precision promotion, and a lot of companies' dispensing becomes a bottleneck. So, we are engaging with more than 10 customers, some of them are quite significant, and all feedback is pretty good, quite strong. So, our goal actually in '25, we hope we will be able to achieve about $25 to $30 million and in '26, of course, will be even faster growth, right? Maybe target about $50 million. Of course, we are actually talking to a lot of customers, and this is an area I think I need to have a breakthrough. Micro dispensing with the capability of precision, control of expense and motion is really needed in this industry, right? So, we are quite excited.
Operator, Operator
The next question is coming from Charles Shi of Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Charles Shi, Analyst
I have a couple of questions. First, I would like to understand more about the trend in the wedge bonding equipment business. You've mentioned potential moderation for a while, but it seems that the current softness is greater than you previously expected. My question is how much weaker do you anticipate the wedge bonding equipment business will become? Additionally, it appears there are signs of recovery in the Ball Bonding segment, with the largest OSAT increasing CapEx this year based on their recent comments. How much of an impact will the strength in Ball Bonding equipment have in offsetting the weakness in wedge bonding equipment? Any insights on the dynamics between your two largest product categories would be appreciated.
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
So, hi, Charles, we do see, as Fusen mentioned in his remarks, we do see weakness in wedge bonding, particularly driven by automotive. So, I think it has been trending down for 1 or 2 quarters, but we think for Q2, it's going to be a more significant downturn. But hopefully, it will recover near the latter part of the fiscal year.
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
So, Charles, you noted the weakness not just in power semiconductors but also in the industry. Regarding customers with automotive exposure, I believe they have delayed some of the wedge bonders. These delays also involve the Ball Bonder at that specific company due to its connection with automotive. Therefore, I would say not all the delays this quarter are due to wedge bonders.
Charles Shi, Analyst
Got it. So, I understand that you expect a Ball Bonding business. Other than what you mentioned about the pushouts from the auto industrial sector on the Ball Bonders, what are your general expectations for the ramp-up of Ball Bonder revenue throughout this year? It seems based on your comments about unit growth, you anticipate a gradual and modest increase in Ball Bonding revenue during the first three quarters of this fiscal year, with perhaps a slight uptick in September. Is that the right way to think about it?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
I believe, as Fusen mentioned, that the performance of the Ball Bonder in Q2 was slightly below our expectations. However, we anticipate that Q3 will show signs of recovery based on discussions we've had with our customers and the increasing utilization rates, especially in China. We expect Q3 for Ball Bonder to improve, with Q4 showing even stronger performance. Therefore, I wouldn't characterize the first three quarters as weak for Ball Bonder; instead, I think we will see a recovery beginning in Q3 and gaining momentum in the latter part of Q3 and into Q4.
Charles Shi, Analyst
Got it. Maybe I want to ask one last question. So, you didn't provide a new update on Project W. Just want to check with the management team. Do you still expect the high-volume production to be in 2025? And what should be to maximize I'm not asking for the timing of the next milestone, but what exactly should be the next milestone?
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
So, Charles, regarding Project W, the next milestone involves the qualification of the initial pre-mass production tools that we have shipped, following the delivery of one system aimed at increasing capacity for the customer. Whether mass production will begin in 2025 largely depends on the customer's readiness and the overall supply chain for Project W. We anticipate that preproduction tools will be deployed in '24 and '25, and we are preparing for a ramp-up, which could occur in the latter part of '25 or into '26. However, a significant factor remains the customer's readiness.
Operator, Operator
The next question is from Craig Ellis of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.
Craig Ellis, Analyst
Thanks for taking my question, and good evening, guys. So, I wanted to just go back to some of the earlier comments and try to stitch together what we're seeing about fiscal '24. So Fusen, I think early on, you said that you think $800 million in revenues is possible. And it seems like with your traction in the dispense at $25 million to $30 million, that's going to drive about 60% of the incremental year-on-year growth. So, does that mean that the balance of the growth is from Ball Bonders or wedge bonders? Or do we have something hitting with advanced display and TCB this year?
Fusen Chen, President and CEO
So, actually, I make a comment. I think '25, we expect expense probably to have a massive momentum because this year '24, we have a lot of engagement with the same customers, right? So earliest, I think traction is going to be '25, which we are looking for $25 million to $30 million. And what I mentioned in the second half, I think in addition to the Ball Bonder recovery, actually, even a recovery compared to the peak, we are not even at 40% of the peak volume yet. So, gain Ball Bonder will have a long way to go. So, in addition to the Ball Bonder recovery in the second half, I think we also expect many things we have in VFO, we expect displayed, and we have other areas to grow, as I mentioned in my script, so I hope I...
Craig Ellis, Analyst
Okay. That helps. And then I wanted to dig into another comment. You mentioned that it's possible that you'll see some auto battery shipment acceleration later this year for I believe it was wedge. And I wanted to get a sense for what you thought the magnitude of that would be and how the linearity played out in the back half of the year?
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
Yes. So, Craig, I think the magnitude is not huge, but it is significant. This is the first big buy we've had from the customer for quite a while. I think as well as far as linearity is concerned, I think we believe that there will be some in this quarter, but mostly it will be in the second half of the year.
Craig Ellis, Analyst
Yes. And then lastly, if I could sneak in one more. Certainly, some encouraging signs in China memory. The question is for Korean memory and U.S. memory companies. What's your expectation for when we get back to 80% plus utilization rates that can benefit the business in those geographies with those customers? Thank you.
Lester Wong, Chief Financial Officer
I think that currently, U.S. memory companies also operate in China. The utilization in those regions is likely in the mid-60s to mid-70s. We hope that with a recovery in memory prices, we will see improvement for everyone in the second half of the year.
Operator, Operator
At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Elgindy for closing comments.
Joseph Elgindy, Senior Director, Investor Relations
Thank you, Donna, and thank you all for joining today's call. As always, please feel free to follow up directly with any additional questions. This concludes today's call. Have a great day, everyone.