Earnings Call Transcript

Mativ Holdings, Inc. (MATV)

Earnings Call Transcript 2025-03-31 For: 2025-03-31
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Earnings Call Transcript - MATV Q1 2025

Chris Kuepper, Director of Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Mativ's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that comments included in today's conference call include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from these comments for reasons shown in detail in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Some financial metrics discussed during this call are non-GAAP financial metrics. Reconciliations of these metrics to the closest GAAP metrics are included in the appendix of the earnings release. Unless stated otherwise, financial and operational metric comparisons are to the prior year period and relate to continuing operations. The earnings release issued yesterday afternoon and the accompanying slide deck are available on our website at ir.mativ.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Shruti.

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. First, given this is my first time speaking with you as Mativ's CEO, I'll start by saying how excited I am to work with the team and lead our company and our employees. This is an important time for Mativ as we work to turn around our business performance, accelerate our pace of execution, and materially reduce our leverage. At Mativ, our purpose-built assets deliver bold, unique, and highly specialized solutions to meet our customers' most complex challenges. Our global capabilities, paired with our localized supply solutions, enable us to partner with and service our customers based on how and where they go to market. These capabilities and our business model allow us to grow our end markets together with our customers and are particularly relevant in the current geopolitical and tariff-exposed environment. We also recognize that Mativ is facing challenges right now. Many of these are rooted in a continuously suppressed demand environment. As a member of the Mativ board, I have witnessed firsthand our progress since the merger in 2022. After the destocking trend over the past few years ended, we expected a solid return to a more normalized demand environment, similar to levels before the pandemic. However, we realized that an overall demand pickup is simply not materializing with the additional uncertainty posed by the current macroeconomic environment. The team and I have spent the last 60 days digging deep into our global operations and engaging with our talented employees, key customers, and trusted suppliers as well as many shareholders and other external stakeholders to help inform my perspective. Our conversations made clear that this past year has been incredibly difficult for many of our stakeholders and employees. We are simply not where we need to be operationally to navigate the current demand environment or future challenges. We will not just stand on the sidelines waiting for the demand to come back. We are pivoting to a much higher sense of urgency across our company to act swiftly, comprehensively, and decisively to undertake the necessary changes to grow market share, return to sustainable and profitable growth, and most importantly, restore value to our shareholders. I'm working hand-in-hand with the management team and many employees throughout the organization to turn around our performance, leveraging my own experience and track record of transforming global organizations. So in line with the board's review of our strategy and support of my recommendations, we have established three near-term priorities to drive improved performance and position Mativ for value creation as we navigate these challenges. These are: Driving enhanced commercial execution; sharpening efforts to delever the balance sheet; and conducting a strategic review of our portfolio. Let me start first with talking about driving enhanced commercial execution. We must make sure that every commercially focused function has the right tools, level of empowerment, and organizational support. This will generate new business, expand market share, and stimulate top-line growth. We will achieve this by prioritizing growth initiatives, aligning our incentive structures to reward profitable growth, and delayering for faster decision-making. From a product perspective, we plan to generate incremental demand in new business. For example, we will move existing products into adjacent applications. We will focus more on cross-selling the full Mativ portfolio, and we will make it much easier for our customers to do business with us. As we announced on the last call, Ryan Elwart and his team are leading the commercial operations of both FAM and SAS segments. Ryan has put together a team of highly skilled business leaders and assembled a deep bench of subject matter experts with long track records of successful execution at global companies. This will leverage their successful go-to-market approach across the company and further unlock cross-customer and business opportunities. This cross-company go-to-market strategy has already driven improved outcomes in SAS. Their strong leadership, commercial discipline, and customer focus have been instrumental in delivering strong SAS segment results over the past five quarters, including four consecutive quarters of sales growth and five consecutive quarters of EBITDA and margin growth. We have also increased the cadence of our sales pipeline reviews, and we are working to ensure alignment of growth opportunities with our supply chain, track performance versus targets, and share pricing and cross-selling best practices across segments. The next area of focus is sharpening our efforts to delever the balance sheet through margin improvement and free cash flow generation. We have announced pricing actions effective as of March that will positively affect Q2 and the remainder of the year in connection with our commercial efforts. A task force is currently underway, comprehensively reviewing our cost and operating structure to further reduce costs, improve margins, and more aggressively pursue our asset optimization efforts. As part of this review, I have asked the team to deliver $10 million to $15 million of additional cost reductions to be realized in 2025, which is in addition to the previously announced $20 million year-end 2026 cost reductions. Think of it as $30 million to $35 million in cost reductions by year-end 2026, $10 million to $15 million of which will be realized in 2025. These cost reductions are comprised of SG&A, operations, and procurement savings. When it comes to cash flow improvement, I'm challenging the team to further reduce capital spending and inventory levels. In this effort, we will further reduce our capital spending to $40 million per year versus the $55 million incurred in 2024. This level of capital spend will be split between maintenance and growth-oriented CapEx and will allow us to continue to invest in those assets in key categories where we see the market demand. We will also reduce our inventory levels by $20 million to $30 million in 2025. The heightened discipline on capital expenditures and inventories will drive significant free cash flow expansion, further helping to accelerate debt reduction and delevering. Last but not least, along with the board, we will conduct a strategic portfolio review of our assets and business lines. There is a wide range of characteristics on how each product category contributes to Mativ's bottom line, competitive position, margin profile, and portfolio diversity. And I want to make sure that we strategically balance that contribution. We will evaluate opportunities to unlock value to strengthen our balance sheet and go-to-market positioning. With that, let me turn to the current quarter. Our overall performance in Q1, while mixed, came in as expected. Results reflected the demand patterns we're seeing in the market right now. Sales were essentially flat organically year-over-year. SAS continued its strong momentum, including volume improvements, largely offset by FAM's results, which were impacted by continued demand softness across automotive and construction end markets. In our SAS segment, the strong momentum that we have seen over the course of fiscal 2024 continued in the first quarter with sales up almost 6% year-over-year on an organic basis. Adjusted EBITDA was up more than 3% compared to the prior year, with margin improving slightly as well. We continue to see solid volume improvement in Q1 across many of our SAS categories with health care and release liners up over 20%, driving the largest gain year-over-year, followed by significant gains in labels and commercial print versus the market. Turning to our FAM segment. Our overall performance continues to be mixed as soft demand in our automotive and construction end markets impacted results across the segment. We saw continued demand headwinds in transportation and water filtration, while there were pockets of growth in our optical, medical, and dental film verticals. Overall, FAM results were down versus the prior year, driven by lower volumes in automotive, combined with the volume loss of high-margin paint protection films and the fact that a higher-priced year-end inventory disproportionately affected the FAM segment. Let me also provide a few updates on the status of our turnaround efforts underway in our advanced films vertical. In paint protection films, I approved the repurposing of resources to immediately address any commercial capacity and quality issues. Our customers are already feeling the positive impact of these initiatives as we continue to serve their needs. However, we recognize that we must now focus all our efforts in regaining our customers' trust and commitment. Additionally, we are expanding our paint protection film pipeline and are executing a mid-tier film solution in this faster-growing segment. Accelerating our presence in targeted markets such as medical and optical films is another example of growing our share in adjacent specialty markets, and I'm empowering this team to accelerate these efforts. I'm pleased to share that we are seeing a noticeable uptick in demand for these verticals that also carried into Q2, and we are working to unlock capacity to further accelerate growth in the back half of this year. Before turning the call over to Greg, I'll briefly provide some color on tariffs as it relates to our business, which we know is top of mind for many of our stakeholders. Given where tariff policy is currently, we believe Mativ is well-positioned as the majority of our products sold in a given region are manufactured in the same region. Less than 7% of our annual sales are currently subject to tariff exposure, which is a testament to our ability to provide localized supply chain options that match the geographies where and how our customers go to market. First, tariff to and from China impact about 2% of our sales. Tariffs from Mexico impact about 1% of our sales. While most of our sales from Canada remain exempt under USMCA. Sales from Europe and from the U.K. to the U.S. comprise another 1.5% and 1%, respectively. So in summary, our total sales currently exposed to tariffs with exemptions is less than 7% of sales. Additionally, we have put together a comprehensive playbook on mitigating the impact of these exposures and identified a number of approaches tailored to each region. That includes corresponding pricing decisions, tariff pass-throughs, and alternative sourcing strategies. We are also pursuing business and taking share in categories where we are the local supplier and competition is outside the U.S. While we feel that the direct impact of current tariff-related policy in Mativ is minimal and manageable, we acknowledge that there is a wide range of outcomes when it comes to the indirect impact on demand and commercial activity. As an early indicator, though, we have not seen the heightened level of pre-buying that was expected, and rather, customers are taking a more cautionary stance. A very special thanks to the Mativ teams who are planning and reacting, in many cases in real time, to the ever-shifting tariff dynamics. With that, I'll turn it over to Greg for a more detailed discussion of our financial performance.

Greg Weitzel, CFO

Thanks, Shruti, and good morning, everyone. Consolidated net sales from continuing operations for the quarter were $485 million compared to $500 million in the prior year. Sales were down 3% year-over-year on a reported basis and essentially flat on an organic basis. After adjusting for sales associated with closed facilities, volume mix and selling prices were up slightly versus the prior year, while currency was unfavorable. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations was $37.2 million, down 19% from $45.8 million in the prior year. Higher manufacturing and distribution costs, unfavorable net selling price versus input costs, and lower volume in FAM represented a combined $13 million unfavorable impact, which was partially offset by $2 million of higher volume mix in SAS and $3 million of lower SG&A costs. Turning to each of our segments. Net sales in our Filtration and Advanced Materials segment of $188 million were down more than 7% versus Q1 of 2024. The year-over-year decrease reflected lower volumes due to continued customer caution and uncertain macroeconomic environment, and lower selling prices along with unfavorable currency translation. FAM adjusted EBITDA of $23 million was down $10 million year-over-year, reflecting the effects of lower volumes, the sell-through of higher cost inventory produced in the prior quarter, unfavorable relative net selling price versus input costs, and higher distribution costs in the segment, partially offset by lower SG&A costs. In our Sustainable & Adhesive Solutions segment, net sales of $297 million were up $16 million or almost 6% on an organic basis and essentially flat from last year on a reported basis. Organic growth reflected higher volumes across key categories and higher selling prices across the segment, partially offset by unfavorable currency translation. SAS adjusted EBITDA performance of $33 million was up more than 3% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA of 30 basis points versus the prior year. The year-over-year performance reflected higher volumes across key categories, higher selling price across the segment and lower SG&A costs, partially offset by higher manufacturing and distribution costs and an unfavorable relative net selling price versus input cost performance. This is SAS's fourth consecutive quarter of sales growth and fifth consecutive quarter of adjusted EBITDA and margin growth. And I, too, am very excited to see the performance Ryan and his team will drive company-wide in the coming months and quarters. Turning to a few of the corporate items. Unallocated corporate adjusted EBITDA expense of $19 million was down versus the prior year, primarily driven by lower SG&A expenses. Interest expense of $18 million decreased by $0.5 million from the prior year due to lower average balances and lower average interest rates in the current period. When taking hedges into account, over 80% of our debt is at a fixed rate and matures on a staggered basis between 2027 and 2029. Other expense was $2 million in the current period, which compared to other income of $2 million in the prior year period, largely due to losses on foreign exchange. Our tax rate was 5.6% in the quarter. This low tax rate was driven by a change in the valuation allowance and primarily attributable to the nondeductible goodwill impairment. As seen in our GAAP results, considering the sustained decline in our share price during the first quarter, we performed a goodwill impairment analysis based on current market conditions and risks and recorded a pretax noncash charge of $412 million. At the end of the quarter, net debt was $1.04 billion and available liquidity was $407 million. Our net leverage ratio, as defined in our credit agreement, was 4.7x, with about 0.8x headroom versus our covenant level of 5.5x. We expect leverage to start improving in Q3 of this year. As a reminder, our target leverage range is 2.5x to 3.5x, and we expect to make meaningful progress towards this range in the back half of 2025 and be within the range in 2026. Our number one priority for cash flow utilization is and continues to be deleveraging and debt reduction. With that in mind, as Shruti mentioned, we have major strategic initiatives underway to materially improve cash flow generation throughout 2025. This is first and foremost driven by the aforementioned pricing and cost optimization initiatives, and we have further reduced our expected capital expenditures from an annualized rate of $55 million in 2024 to a current target of $40 million, and we are committed to reducing our year-end inventory levels by $20 million to $30 million in 2025 versus 2024. With all that, we expect working capital for the full year to improve significantly from a use of cash to a source of cash of around $10 million. This will drive significant cash flow generation in 2025, which is solely intended to reduce our debt and leverage in the coming months. We did not repurchase any shares during the quarter. Once our leverage returns to our target range, we will continue to opportunistically repurchase shares to offset dilution, but the priority of cash flow until then remains on paying down debt. As we look ahead, we acknowledge that market demand remains uncertain. We have not seen the expected return to pre-pandemic demand levels with additional impact from tariffs and macroeconomic policy in the market, which directly impacts the levels of sales and operating leverage we see. While we have continued to see softness in demand through early May and expect this will continue to affect our results in Q2, we expect a significant sequential step-up in adjusted EBITDA performance. This step-up will be similar to last year's step-up of $20 million and will be driven by a sequential increase in volume, especially on the SAS side and higher fixed cost absorption as well as improved relative price versus input cost. The seasonally higher production costs that impacted our results at the beginning of the year will not have an impact on our results for the remainder of the year. For modeling purposes, for the full year 2025, we are now expecting additional cost reductions of $10 million to $15 million realized in 2025. Depreciation, amortization, and stock-based compensation to be around $100 million, interest expense to be around $75 million, plus another $9 million in fees for our AR facility, capital expenditures of around $40 million, one-time costs to be around $15 million to $20 million, working capital to be a $10 million source of cash, driven mainly by the previously mentioned inventory reduction of $20 million to $30 million. And for our normalized tax rate, we suggest using 24%. With that, Shruti, I'll hand it back over to you for your closing remarks.

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Thank you, Greg. What I want you to take away from this call is that to undertake the necessary changes to grow market share, return to sustainable and profitable growth, strengthen the balance sheet and most importantly, restore value to our shareholders, we are pivoting to a much higher sense of urgency across the company. We will act swiftly, comprehensively, and decisively. Our teams understand that the current macro environment will not do us any favors anytime soon and we are adapting to control our own destiny. Our top priority is to accelerate our pace of execution with a focus on three key areas: driving enhanced commercial execution, sharpening our efforts to delever the balance sheet, and conducting a strategic review of our portfolio. To drive enhanced commercial execution, we put in place multiple initiatives to align our commercial teams and product solutions with new business generation and profitable growth. To sharpen our efforts to delever, we are executing on a number of initiatives to materially improve our margins and cash flow generation. And to focus our operations on our core categories, we are conducting a strategic portfolio review of our assets and business lines. These efforts ensure Mativ is focused on our highest value initiatives to enable our long-term success. We are executing against a clear strategic roadmap and are taking accelerated actions to position Mativ for profitable growth while delevering our balance sheet and creating sustainable value for our shareholders. In closing, I want to thank all our employees for their unwavering passion for Mativ and their efforts to reposition our company for the future, our board for their support and faith in me, and our shareholders for their patience as we accelerate our pace of change in support of our three key initiatives. We look forward to updating you on our progress as we move through the year. Thank you for joining us this morning, and please open the line for questions.

Daniel Harriman, Analyst

Shruti, congrats on the new position. Two quick questions for me today, one for Shruti and one for Greg. Shruti, obviously, you're only 60 days into your tenure. And clearly, at this stage, the level of detail you're able to provide on the portfolio review is rather small, and I was hoping you might be able to provide a little bit more insight or detail into what you're thinking about. And then, Greg, you've laid out multiple items to improve cash flow generation and expansion, and I was hoping you might be able to give a little bit more color on that and the timing that you see that happening?

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Thanks, Dan, for the question, and I appreciate your comments. As you know, we've been evaluating our portfolio periodically ever since the merger. Case in point, we took the portfolio action regarding our EP divestiture, so that was successfully executed. But along with the board, we are conducting a strategic portfolio review of our assets and business lines, as I mentioned earlier, and Greg also alluded to that. We have a very diverse portfolio. And what we're looking at is how each product category contributes to Mativ's bottom line, its competitive positioning, margin profile, and how it fits into the overall portfolio diversity. So we will certainly evaluate all those factors and opportunities to make sure we unlock and maximize the value to strengthen our balance sheet. However, as you also alluded to, it's early days for me and in this strategic review. But for sure, we will keep you updated on progress and opportunities as and when we identify them and are ready to talk about it.

Greg Weitzel, CFO

Daniel, we anticipate a substantial rise in overall cash flow compared to last year. While the first quarter shows negative cash flow, it's primarily due to seasonality affected by accounts receivable and lower volumes in the fourth quarter, which will improve in the first quarter. We expect to see a notable turnaround in Q2 with positive cash flow. Additionally, with our efforts in reducing inventory and capital expenditures, along with improved sequential EBITDA, we are expecting a significant year-over-year increase in cash flow.

Lars Kjellberg, Analyst

Maybe we can step back a bit and kind of look at the legacy companies and where the margins were prior to the merger, and then how they literally halved since the pandemic and where we still sit. What, in your view, have you been able to identify what are the root causes for that significant margin contraction? And we haven't really seen that in some of your peers. So has this to do with the complexity of the business, which are now, of course, we'll try to address through the strategic review of the portfolio? Or is it just the scale or lack of scale that doesn't necessarily enable you to deal with these extremely disruptive markets? So if you can get some perspective on that, that would be really interesting to hear. The other thing which I think a little bit about is, as you're focusing on deleveraging the balance sheet, why do we continue to pay dividends? Wouldn't there be more value for shareholders to step away from the dividend and pause it and then really focus on the controllables because the other stuff may change, of course, as market evolve? That's my two first questions, please.

Greg Weitzel, CFO

Yes. I'll begin with the first point, and Shruti can chime in if I miss anything. Regarding the margins, especially in comparison to the first quarter of the year, these will be the most suppressed margins we have due to seasonality and the higher cost inventory from the slower Q4. I anticipate that the margins for the full year will align more closely with where we stood last year, potentially with some improvement. Even though we may see some declines, as we've previously mentioned, the FAM business is significantly impacting this, particularly with the recent films affecting margins. Despite this, we remain confident that we are in sectors where a 15% margin is attainable and we are actively working toward that goal. The cost reductions we've discussed should also contribute positively to improving those margins. If there are no other points on that, I'll hand it over to Lars regarding the dividend.

Lars Kjellberg, Analyst

I wanted to ask if there is anything to discuss regarding the current margins, which are around 10%. This is significantly lower than the margins the two companies had before merging. Is the lack of scale in this disruptive market making it difficult to maintain these margins? Can we address this issue through a portfolio review and by reducing our footprint?

Greg Weitzel, CFO

Yes. Regarding the planned increase, we are currently aiming for a 15% margin instead of 20%. The divestiture of the EP division has slightly affected our overall margin mix compared to the historic performance of the two companies. In terms of scale, we have made significant efforts to reduce non-overhead SG&A costs, and we plan to address this further in 2025 and 2026. We are working on resolving the scale issue. As for the portfolio, any potential actions would be more focused on reducing debt. Additionally, the pricing actions implemented at the end of the first quarter are starting to have a positive impact in the second quarter and for the rest of the year, which should help improve margins alongside the cost reductions.

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Yes. On the dividend, we've reviewed that. We have talked with the board on that, and at this point, are planning to continue with the dividend.

Massimiliano Pilato, Analyst

There will be three for me. So I appreciate all the color on the tariff situation. But relative to China, I would like to understand if you saw any change in domestic demand in the FAM segment or some backlog from Chinese base given this situation of tariffs in the U.S. and China? Second question relates to inflation. So I understand pricing actually already benefits in Q2, but it seems that pulp is seasonal, energy is seasonally lower, and we have really seen any material inflation in resins. So where do you see the price cost cut in Q2 and as well for the full year? And maybe I'll ask the third question after this.

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Yes, I can address the first question regarding tariffs. As we have pointed out, our exposure to China is quite limited. In Europe, we focus on local supply chains and manufacturing, and we are actively engaging with our customers to explore ways to enhance our market presence and increase our share in local markets affected by the Chinese tariffs.

Greg Weitzel, CFO

I'll address the second question about pricing and input costs. We will keep managing our selling prices to cover the input costs. Occasionally, we encounter timing issues with quarters, which we experienced in the fourth quarter of last year. As anticipated, we faced slightly higher input costs compared to our pricing actions. We expect that with our pricing strategies in place, we will return to a positive contribution in Q2, and we aim to finish the year with favorable pricing and input costs. Currently, we do not foresee significant increases in input costs, barring any tariffs, for which we would also implement pricing adjustments to offset. When reviewing our raw materials, particularly pulp, paper, and energy, we observe a slight increase in input costs, but these are manageable and can be covered through price increases.

Massimiliano Pilato, Analyst

I will conclude with the third question regarding the FAM segment. There have been numerous disruptions and some internal challenges, but those appear to be resolved now. However, the core markets for automotive and construction still seem relatively weak. If I'm correct, you're focusing on prioritizing the optical, medical, and dental sectors, but your exposure to transportation and construction is around 85%. What additional steps can you take to mitigate the potential weakness in automotive and transportation throughout the year? It appears that the film business alone may not be sufficient to address this. Are there any other strategies you could implement to drive growth in the FAM segment?

Shruti Singhal, CEO

Yes, there are several key developments in the FAM segment. We have a strong pipeline in the optical, medical, and dental areas, which are experiencing growth. In the automotive and construction segments, despite the challenges we've seen in the market, the recent leadership change with Ryan joining our team is promising. We've effectively demonstrated our ability to build a commercial pipeline in the SAS segment, targeting around 50% of our revenues. While automotive and construction may be weaker, we believe growth is still achievable in those areas. Ryan and his team are focused on pipeline development, and I anticipate we will see growth patterns similar to those we have achieved in SAS previously. Thank you for joining us this morning for our Q1 2025 earnings call. We appreciate it. We look forward to connecting with you throughout the coming months and our next earnings call in August. Have a great day, everybody. Thank you.

Chris Kuepper, Director of Investor Relations

That concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation, and enjoy the rest of your day.