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Earnings Call

Pediatrix Medical Group, Inc. (MD)

Earnings Call 2025-06-30 For: 2025-06-30
Added on April 27, 2026

Earnings Call Transcript - MD Q2 2025

Operator, Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Pediatrix Medical Group's Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mary Ann Moore, EVP, General Counsel and Chief Administrative Officer. Please proceed.

Mary Ann E. Moore, EVP, General Counsel and Chief Administrative Officer

Thank you, operator, and good morning. Certain statements and information during this conference call may be deemed to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on assumptions and assessments made by Pediatrix management in light of their experience and assessment of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments and other factors they believe to be appropriate. Any forward-looking statements made during this call are made as of today, and Pediatrix undertakes no duty to update or revise any such statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Important factors that could cause actual results, developments and business decisions to differ materially from forward-looking statements are described in the company's filings with the SEC, including the sections entitled Risk Factors. In today's remarks by management, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial metrics. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in this morning's earnings press release, our quarterly and annual reports and on our website at www.pediatrix.com. With that, I will turn the call over to Mark Ordan, our Chief Executive Officer.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Thanks, Mary Ann, and good morning, everyone. Also with me today is Kasandra Rossi, our Chief Financial Officer. Our second quarter results, including adjusted EBITDA of just over $73 million exceeded our expectations. This was driven by same unit revenue growth of over 6%, which in turn was a result of strong hospital-based volume with NICU days up 6% and favorable reimbursement factors, including higher acuity levels, strong RCM collections and increased hospital administrative fees. Our ongoing cost management initiatives continue to control same-unit salary trends, partially offset by incentive compensation from higher results. These results, along with our second half visibility, have prompted us to raise and narrow our full year adjusted EBITDA range to $245 million to $255 million. These results have also continued to raise our cash position, bolstering our balance sheet and adding options in a very turbulent hospital-based healthcare environment. Kasandra will now provide additional financial details, and then I'll discuss our view of where we are, our focus now and looking forward.

Kasandra H. Rossi, CFO

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. I'll provide some additional details in a few areas. Our consolidated revenue decreased by just over 7%, driven by non-same unit activity, which declined by about $63 million, primarily related to the impacts from our portfolio restructuring activity. This decrease was partially offset by strong same-unit growth of over 6%. Same unit pricing was up 3.5%, driven by increased patient acuity, primarily in neonatology, strong RCM cash collections and an increase in contract administrative fees. Importantly, payer mix remained relatively stable as compared to both the prior year period and on a consecutive quarter basis. Same-unit patient service volumes increased by approximately 3%, driven by strong increases in hospital-based services, primarily neonatology, where NICU days were up over 6% and within office-based services, where we saw a modest increase in maternal fetal medicine services. Practice-level SW&B expenses declined year-over-year, also reflecting portfolio restructuring activity. On a same-unit basis, we saw an increase in expenses as compared to prior year, but the increase was primarily related to higher incentive compensation based on practice results as well as salary increases. Salary growth has remained in a tight band, consistent with the ranges we have seen for the prior 4 quarters that averaged 3% to 3.5%. Our G&A expense decreased slightly year-over-year, primarily due to a net decrease in salary expense, reflecting the favorable impacts from the staffing reductions across shared services completed in the prior year as well as modest decreases in other expense categories, including professional services and legal fees. These decreases were partially offset by an increase in incentive compensation expense based on overall company financial results. D&A expense declined to $5.3 million as compared to $8.8 million in the prior year, also primarily reflecting the impacts of the practice dispositions. Other nonoperating expense was $4.9 million as compared to $10 million for the prior year period, primarily reflecting an increase in interest income on cash balances as well as a decrease in interest expense on modestly lower average borrowings at slightly lower rates. Moving on to cash flow, we generated $138 million in operating cash flow in the second quarter compared to $109 million in the prior year, driven by higher earnings and increases in cash flow from deferred taxes and accounts payable and accrued expenses. We ended the quarter with cash of $225 million and net debt of just over $380 million. This reflects net leverage of just above 1.5x using the midpoint of our updated adjusted EBITDA outlook range for 2025. Absent any other activities, we would expect our cash balance will be around $350 million to $400 million at the end of 2025. Our accounts receivable DSO at June 30 of 46.4 days were down about 1.2 days from March 31 and December 31, but they were down over 3 days year-over-year, primarily related to improved cash collections at our existing units. From an RCM standpoint, while we continue to work through additional automation and enhancements, we certainly have hit a stride. We consider the complex and lengthy transition to our hybrid model as a success with our operating performance in a solid place. Finally, I'll touch briefly on our updated 2025 outlook range, noting that the increase was primarily related to the top line revenue growth achieved during the second quarter versus our expectations and the narrowing of our range reflects where we sit timing-wise in the year. For the second half of 2025, we expect that our adjusted EBITDA will be fairly ratable in the third and fourth quarters.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Thanks so much, Kasandra. Since returning as CEO in January, I have spoken about our concerted efforts to be the best possible partner to our hospitals and to be the employer of choice to leading clinicians who want their careers to be at a quality-driven critical care provider. We continue to believe strongly that these efforts provide the best possible foundation for stability, resilience and opportunity. In my career, I have looked for and usually found opportunities in areas where many see the headwinds most prominently. To capitalize on opportunities in a tougher environment, we believe you have to be the very best at what you do. If you're the best, you will attract the very best talent and be an invaluable partner. At Pediatrix, where we provide the most critical care to mothers, babies and children, being the best means an intense focus on quality of care, having an organization dedicated to this and having the resources needed to support this fully. We are the nation's leading research organization in neonatology. Our clinician leaders serve on boards of outside organizations dedicated to advancing care in neonatology and in maternal fetal medicine. We spoke about acuity earlier in the call, and we oversee more Level 3 and Level 4 NICUs than any other provider organization. Recently, Senator Cotton and other legislators introduced the Neonatal Care Transparency Act, and we believe that we can assist anyone as thought leaders since we know the intricacies of this as well or better than anyone. To be the best, we need to look for ways to be better partners with our hospital partners. We look for opportunities to grow with them while attending to the core of the care and the services we provide. To be the best, we must be resilient, and I've been a broken record about the importance of a strong balance sheet, especially in turbulent times. We spoke earlier about our relatively large cash balance sheet. This provides us flexibility to pay down debt and to employ other corporate finance strategies, including possibly share repurchases, and also enables us to take advantage of potential strengthening opportunities, both inside and outside Pediatrix. We announced today the addition to Pediatrix of my long-time colleague, Greg Neeb, who over many years has collaborated with me and our colleagues to find ways to improve what we do, to reinforce quality efforts and to help find financial and operational opportunities that benefit all stakeholders. This includes, of course, you, our shareholders. We believe that Greg is a great addition to a team that is equipped and poised to do just that. All of this is a natural segue to my thoughts about the Big Beautiful Bill and Pediatrix. We believe that we can effectively manage through the effects of this legislation. Remember, it phases in over time. It has a very different impact on expansion versus non-expansion states where 60% of our volume resides, and it specifically addresses the urgent needs of expectant mothers where, of course, we address the highest risk population. We, of course, hope that the premium tax credits that are set to expire at the end of this year will be extended. And we, like many others, have been using our voices and knowledge to urge that they be extended. This is yet another example of the headwinds that seem always to recur in health care, which require resilient, determined management with the resources and the will to steer through and find opportunities. And when you think about the challenges our clinicians face and meet every day of every year, this is what we believe uniquely defines Pediatrix. With that, operator, I will turn the call over to people with questions.

Operator, Operator

Our first question comes from Pito Chickering from Deutsche Bank.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Can you talk about the hospital admin fees? I think those were previously guided to be flat. What percent of the pricing growth in the second quarter came from admin fees? And can you tell us sort of how these negotiations are going and sort of how we should think about these admin fees as we head into 2026?

Kasandra H. Rossi, CFO

Sure. So late in 2024, we did say that we expected hospital admin fees to be in the flat range. In Q1, we did see same unit growth there of just about 10% of pricing. This quarter, it was definitely north of that, and our admin fees made up about one-third of our pricing growth. We talked to operations, and they've said they have certainly been targeting some key programs, both from a renewals perspective and certain ASCs. We've been able to work with our hospital partners to demonstrate the value we bring and substantiate the ASCs that are necessary to continue supporting their programs. I don't think in any way we're saying it's easy, but we are definitely having some success there.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Yes, I would say this aligns with our efforts to strengthen our relationships with our hospital partners. We are not hesitant to seek support when necessary, and we believe we operate very efficiently while providing a critical service to our hospital partners. Therefore, we are confident in this area. There is always a need to justify our actions, but we believe we are effective at doing that.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Okay. And then a follow-up here. Let's say you increase your admin fee by, let's say, 1%. What is the flow-through on how much sort of goes back into doctor compensation versus the corporate? Just trying to figure out and then the timing of when those to occur.

Kasandra H. Rossi, CFO

Probably somewhere in the 30% to 40% range.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Is it pretty immediate to flow through?

Kasandra H. Rossi, CFO

Yes, pretty immediate.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Okay. So next question, just NICU growth was exceptionally strong this quarter. Just any color on sort of what's driving the NICU growth? Is it just a large number of babies? Is market share sort of comps? Kind of what drove that 6% NICU growth this quarter?

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

It's really the factors that we talked about before. There's no one particular driver of it. And we mentioned one of the things we highlighted was that acuity is certainly up. It's hard to parse where it's all coming from. So it's just overall strong in really every regard.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Okay. For the last question, I wanted to ask about the Big Beautiful Bill and its impact on Medicaid expansion states. How do you see that affecting your operations, particularly concerning mothers and children, in relation to policy changes?

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

You're asking specifically about the expansion states?

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Correct. Exactly just for the expansion states.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

It's not clear yet how that will unfold. Many details about how this will work are still unclear. I mentioned earlier that 60% of our volume comes from non-expansion states. We believe the impact will take time to materialize. We're approaching this matter seriously, but we think that as the regulations clarify who is covered and who isn't—especially with the specific carve-out for pregnant women—we'll better understand how it will develop. We believe we have both the time and insight to navigate this as more information becomes available.

Philip Chickering, Analyst

Yes. I mean that's sort of my question. Just as I think about your patients being pregnant moms and/or kids, I guess I'm struggling to sort of see how either of those are going to be the ones being cut from live simply because it seems moms, kids and old poor people are generally being held the same. It's much more about working males. And so I'm trying to figure out why there will almost be any cuts to you guys coming from the Big Beautiful Bill.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

We hope that's the case. However, the details on the implementation of any legislation have not been revealed yet. The initial wording of the bill indicates that its focus is on a different segment of the population. This gives us some level of confidence and hope that we won't be adversely affected. Additionally, since we're primarily in non-expansion states and legislators are aware that their constituents rely on essential care, it reinforces our optimism. We also believe that we effectively communicate these concerns to the government and remain actively engaged in this matter.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Whit Mayo from Leerink Partners.

Benjamin Whitman Mayo, Analyst

Mark, can you just elaborate more on buybacks, how you're thinking about the buyback strategy and the pace of buybacks?

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Sure, what I meant to convey is that we believe having a strong balance sheet is essential, especially during uncertain times. It offers us significant opportunities. In the current environment, where many are concerned about challenges in the industry and viewing our stock's multiple critically, it’s advantageous to have cash and flexibility. However, we don’t intend to stockpile cash like a mutual fund; we aim to be strategic in our actions. The addition of Greg to our team reflects our belief that there are opportunities to leverage during turbulent times, and we want to seize those chances. That said, I am not announcing any major acquisitions. We are mindful of our debt levels and the possibility of paying down debt. Nobody on our team is more motivated than I am or Greg to increase our share price. If we believe that repurchasing shares is the best course of action, we have the means to do so without significantly raising our leverage levels. We're pleased to have this flexibility, and we won't simply stand by without taking action.

Benjamin Whitman Mayo, Analyst

Okay. No, that's helpful. And my follow-up is just we can all see the activity with IDR and arbitration, some of the payers, as you know, are talking about it. Just any update there? I mean we can see you're winning claims. Is this not a favorable development? And maybe just comment on whether or not the plans are, in fact, paying you.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Yes. That process, while difficult for everyone, has gone well for us, and we have performed very well throughout it. As you know, we remain predominantly in network, and we continue to maintain that status. In a few instances where we were out of network, there has been a desire for us to return to the network because we provide essential services. Overall, I would say, compared to the concerns people have had, and in some cases still have, things have gone much better than we anticipated.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Tao Qiu from Macquarie.

Tao Qiu, Analyst

Just want to drill down a little bit on the guidance. If you annualize the first half numbers, you reached the lower end of your guidance range. When we consider normal seasonality, that should push you above your current guidance range. I understand you mentioned the cautious view on the hospital landscape. I'm just curious, we're talking about potential headwinds coming down the pipe. Is it on the revenue, expense or both? And maybe what is your outlook in terms of the cadence on margins for the balance of the year?

Kasandra H. Rossi, CFO

So I think when we talked a little bit about our guidance and when we raised guidance last quarter, we talked about the fact that as we move through 2025, the comps do get a little bit tougher. We had that volume top line increase in Q1. That was our easiest comp of 2025. Got a little bit tougher in Q2, but we really did start to see growth in the back half of '24. So the comps will be a bit tougher as we move through the year. So I think that's why when we moved our guidance up, it really was specifically related to what we saw in Q1 and Q2. But we do expect margins to be fairly stable as we move through the end of '25.

Tao Qiu, Analyst

Great. And then a follow-up on the budget bill impact. A lot of your business is originated from the hospitals, right? When we think about the regulatory and reimbursement changes, hospital seems to be the biggest victim there. What is your contracting discussion with hospitals like these days? Are they looking to contract their service lines down the line if this headwind persists?

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

No, we're not experiencing that at all. We provide an incredibly essential service, which is crucial for the overall financial health of hospitals. So we're not seeing any retreat in this area. However, I do worry that there may be an impact in rural and other underserved regions if not handled properly. Our focus remains primarily on Level 3 and Level 4 NICUs, and even Level 1 and Level 2 NICUs play an extremely important role in the financial health of hospitals and in patient outcomes. Therefore, we are not observing any decline. Instead, we are committed to reinforcing our necessary service with hospitals. During these challenging times, hospitals are also looking to capitalize on opportunities, just as we are, despite the challenges we face. As I mentioned earlier, we are actively seeking partnerships with growing hospital systems that are considering a hub-and-spoke model to support their development.

Operator, Operator

And we have no further questions at this time. Please continue.

Mark S. Ordan, CEO

Well, if there are no more questions, I think we're set. I hope you can see that we are very aware of the challenges ahead, but we are ready to handle them. We feel confident. We believe that investing in our operations is a very wise decision both now and in the future, and we appreciate your support.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.