Earnings Call Transcript

NNN REIT, INC. (NNN)

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Earnings Call Transcript - NNN Q4 2025

Operator, Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the NNN REIT Inc. Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Steve Horn, CEO of NNN REIT. Sir, the floor is yours.

Stephen Horn, CEO

Thanks, Ali, and good morning. Welcome to NNN REIT's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Joining me on the call is our Chief Financial Officer, Vin Chao. As outlined in this morning's press release, NNN delivered a solid operating and financial performance in 2025, generating 2.7% growth in AFFO per share and completing over $900 million of acquisitions, the highest annual volume in NNN's history. The momentum exiting 2025 driven by elevated acquisition activity and the portfolio management of the vacancies positions NNN well entering a more uncertain macroeconomic environment in 2026. I am certain in the team's ability to execute across the full investment cycle from sourcing the right opportunities to thoughtful underwriting to proactive management of the highly diversified portfolio by geography, tenant, and industry. Before turning to the results and the outlook, I want to highlight several accomplishments in 2025. First, our 36th consecutive annual dividend increase. We maintained a highly flexible balance sheet, including a 10.8-year weighted average debt maturity, which is best-in-class. No encumbered assets and $1.2 billion of total available liquidity. We completed the executive team positioning and also we continued performance on the acquisition platform alongside proactive portfolio management. The long-term value proposition remains unchanged at its core, our strategy still continues to focus on executing a disciplined bottom-up investment approach, growing the dividend annually while maintaining a top-tier payout ratio, delivering mid-single-digit AFFO per share growth over the long term, and aligning acquisitions, dispositions, and balance sheet management to support these objectives. Turning to our outlook as we move through early 2026, NNN enters the year on solid financial footing. At year-end, we had $1.2 billion of total available liquidity, followed by a record acquisition year. Looking ahead, we expect to fund our 2026 strategy through a combination of approximately $210 million of retained free cash flow, roughly $130 million of planned dispositions which together should result in manageable equity needs throughout the year while maintaining leverage neutral. NNN's self-funding business model can consistently deliver growth in good and challenging economic conditions. Our long-standing approach to capital deployment remains selective and opportunistic will not change. Current cap rates have stabilized for the most part, the fourth quarter initial cap rate in line with the third quarter, and we're seeing that trend continue early in the first quarter of 2026, anticipating slight compression as we move further into the year. During the quarter, we invested just over $180 million across 55 properties, at an initial cash cap rate of 7.4% and with a weighted average lease term of over 18 years. NNN historically sources most of its acquisition through long-standing relationships, does not typically target investment-grade portfolios which tend to have tenant-friendly lease provisions and lower organic growth, if any. Turning to the fourth quarter operating performance, our portfolio of 3,692 single-tenant properties is performing at a high level. As we sit here today, we're not having any conversations with portfolio tenants that raise concerns regarding operating performance or the ability to meet rent obligations. Our occupancy is up 80 basis points from last quarter to 98.3%, which is in line with our long-term average of roughly 98%. The increase in occupancy was a direct result of our asset management team and leasing department executing at a high level, addressing the elevated vacant assets from the end of the third quarter. I would classify the quarter as 'in line on renewals and leasing'. 55 of our 64 renewed ahead of our average renewal rate of 85%, but the run rates were 104% above prior. We leased 4 properties to new tenants at 109% in the prior run, demonstrating strong demand for the assets. As a quick update on the assets of the furniture and restaurants, which were trending ahead of schedule, First, the furniture assets. As of today, we have the last 5 properties under contract for sale. We expect the majority of those to close during the current quarter, but however, one or two could slip to the second quarter. With respect to the restaurant assets, the team continues to make solid progress identifying the optimal outcome for each property. Solutions include asset sales, re-leasing, and redevelopment with strong brands across multiple industries. Currently, 32 properties remain, 15 are for sale and 4 are in advanced discussions about leasing. The remaining 13 are actively marketed. We expect to reach resolution on these assets progressively throughout the year. On the disposition side, fourth quarter, we saw 18 income-producing along with 42 vacant, generating $82 million of proceeds during the quarter. For the full year, dispositions totaled $190 million, including 49 vacant at a 6.4% cap rate and 67 vacant assets. While re-leasing remains our priority, we continue to be selective disposing of nonperforming assets where there's no clear path for near-term income generation. With that, let me turn the call over to Vin to provide additional detail with our quarterly results and updated guidance.

Vincent Chao, CFO

Thank you, Steve. Let's start with our customary cautionary statements. During this call, we will make certain statements that may be considered forward-looking statements under federal securities law. The company's actual future results may differ significantly from matters discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we may not release revisions to these forward-looking statements to reflect changes after the statements are made. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ from expectations are disclosed in greater detail in the company's filings with the SEC and in this morning's press release. Now on to results. This morning, we reported core FFO and AFFO of $0.87 per share, each up 6.1% year-over-year. For the full year, core FFO per share was $3.41 and AFFO per share was $3.44, each up 2.7% versus 2024. These solid results come despite several headwinds to start the year and reflect the resilience of our cycle-tested business model. AFFO per share for the quarter came in slightly ahead of our expectations. The upside was driven by a number of small positive variances, including lower net real estate expenses, lower G&A, and higher interest income. There were no notable run rate items to call out this quarter. G&A as a percentage of total revenue was 4.9% for the quarter and 5.1% for the full year. As a percentage of NOI, which we think is a better way to think about it, G&A was 5.1% for the quarter and 5.3% for the year. Free cash flow after dividend was about $51 million in the fourth quarter. As Steve mentioned, we ended the year at 98.3% occupancy, up 80 basis points over last quarter, which again speaks to the resiliency of our business model and the portfolio and the strength of our leasing and asset management teams. Annualized base rent was $928 million at the end of the quarter, an increase of close to 8% year-over-year compared to a 7% increase last quarter, driven by our strong acquisition activity throughout the year. With regard to our watch list, there have been no material changes since last quarter, and we believe our bad debt assumptions are sufficient to absorb any future tenant issues. Although headline risk can create noise, it's important to keep in mind that NNN's proven strategy of focusing on real estate quality, property and corporate-level credit, and low cost and rent basis using a long-term sale-leaseback structure has allowed NNN to successfully navigate various economic cycles with limited long-term cash flow impacts. Turning to our capital markets activity. In November, we paid off our $400 million 4% coupon note at maturity. In December, we closed on a $300 million delayed draw term loan and entered into forward term swaps totaling $200 million that fixed SOFR at 3.22%. In conjunction with the execution of the term loan, we amended our revolving credit facility to eliminate the SOFR credit spread adjustment, reducing the effective interest rate on our revolver by 10 basis points. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we drew down $200 million against the term loan, leaving us with $100 million of remaining availability. Moving to the balance sheet, our BBB+ rated balance sheet remains in great shape. At the end of the quarter, we had no encumbered assets and $1.2 billion of available liquidity. Pro forma for the full drawdown of our term loan, floating rate debt represented just 1% of total debt. Our leverage was consistent with last quarter at 5.6x, and our duration remains the highest in the net lease space at 10.8 years and is well matched with our lease duration of 10.2 years. On January 15, we announced a $0.60 quarterly dividend, representing a 3.4% year-over-year increase equating to an attractive 5.5% annualized dividend yield and a prudent 69% AFFO payout ratio. I'll end my opening remarks with some additional color regarding our initial 2026 outlook. We are establishing an AFFO per share guidance range of $3.52 to $3.58, and core FFO per share guidance of $3.47 to $3.53. The midpoint of our AFFO range represents 3.2% year-over-year growth in 2026, accelerating from 2.7% growth in 2025 and as we move past the tenant issues experienced in late 2024. Consistent with past years, our initial outlook embeds a self-funded level of acquisitions with further upside dictated by market conditions and our cost of capital as we remain focused on driving efficient per share earnings growth. Specifically, at the midpoint, our outlook embeds $600 million of acquisitions, which is funded primarily with $130 million of dispositions, expected free cash flow of about $210 million, and a leverage-neutral amount of incremental debt financing. From a credit loss perspective, we have included 75 basis points of bad debt in our full-year outlook, which we think is prudently conservative to start the year. Additional details regarding the underlying assumptions embedded in our guidance can be found in our earnings release. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions.

Operator, Operator

Our first question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS.

Michael Goldsmith, Analyst

In the press release, Steve, you mentioned proactive portfolio management. So can you kind of provide the latest and greatest on what you're doing there, where you see it? And then I guess you can also tie that into your occupancy took a step up during the quarter to above 98%. But is that the long-term number you want to be? Or have you been higher than that in the past? Just trying to get a sense of where you're at in that?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. Ideally, we aim to be slightly above that benchmark, but we work with retailers, which means we sometimes retrieve assets when lease terms expire. In terms of proactive portfolio management, we view our portfolio like a bell curve—there's always a bottom segment. We are continuously in discussions with our partners, allowing us to anticipate who is likely to renew their leases. If we know there are five years remaining and we can sell an asset, our objective is to improve our renewal rates over time. We're focused on proactively addressing potential future issues, particularly on the real estate side, since credit situations can change rapidly. We consistently monitor credit and communicate with tenants, ensuring that our portfolio remains strong over the long term, as evidenced by our renewal rates near 85% and a recapture rate exceeding 100%.

Michael Goldsmith, Analyst

Got it. And then just on the bad debt assumption. It looks like you're starting with 75 basis points. Last year, I know it wasn't you who set up, but it started lower and then prior to that, I think the number was a bit higher. So can you just talk about why is 75 basis points the right way to start the year? And I think earlier, you mentioned that there was not any material changes on your watch list. So I'm just trying to get a sense of some context around that number.

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. Thanks for the question. Yes. So one, I would just start off by saying, no matter what number we put out there, we're either too conservative or too aggressive. So typically, it's been about 100 basis points. That's the long-term sort of starting point. Last year, we went to 60 basis points because we had already taken out two of our larger problem tenants, the most immediate concerns with the two tenants, the furniture and restaurant operator. So they've already taken out the numbers, and so we went with a lower number to reflect any other future speculative. For this year, I think as we looked at it, we don't really have any changes in the watch list. We haven't really had any known issues that are of any materiality. But we felt like, hey, going back to 75 basis points would just be a prudent way to start the year. So far, we really haven't been impacted too much by some of the retailer headlines that have been out there, and we hope that remains the case. But historically, we've done between 30 and 50 basis points of realized bad debt. And so starting at 75 basis points feels like a comfortable way to start to begin the year.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Spencer Glimcher with Green Street.

Spenser Allaway, Analyst

Maybe just piggybacking off the credit loss questions. Can you share some color on kind of rent coverage levels? And where is the portfolio coverage today? And how does that compare to historic levels?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. Good question, Spenser. The vast majority of our tenants report property-level financials, but we're not seeing a decrease in the overall portfolio. I was actually just looking at some of the carwash assets; I was surprised they ticked up a little bit. But when you focus on rent coverage, you got to really keep in mind it's a stale number because not all tenants report quarterly; some are on an annual basis. And the economy is moving so fast the consumer, we don't get hung up on one number in particular. We kind of look at the trends, and that comes back to our active portfolio management. But overall, depending on the industry, we have the car wash, a lot of them are over 3x, 4x, all the way down to auto service might be closer to 2x. But overall, we're comfortable with the rent coverage and don't have any concerns with it.

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. And Spencer, we've talked about this before. I mean when you think about rent coverage, depending on what line of trade you're talking about, one number may be very good for one line of trade and not so great for another line of trade. So looking at the overall portfolio average can help maybe somewhat with directional changes, but it's not necessarily a meaningful number in and of itself.

Spenser Allaway, Analyst

Yes, understood. That's why I was just asking maybe compared to historic levels. Yes, to your point, the trends are important. But yes, second questions, can you talk about which segments your existing clients are looking to grow more aggressively in the near term?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. We do the bottom-up approach. We don't target a specific sector because we can only buy stuff as for sale. But that being said, we do focus on the relationships and we focus on smaller parcels, high visibility, high-trafficked roads. And I'd say for '25 and the pipeline, it seems like auto services and convenience stores are our biggest opportunities currently.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Smedes Rose with Citi.

Bennett Rose, Analyst

I just want to ask a little bit about the pace of lease termination fees. I know they had been elevated back in the third quarter and then seems a little more normal in the fourth quarter, but maybe a little higher than normal. I'm just wondering what you're expecting as we move through 2026 on that front?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes, as we've discussed before, we had over $11 million in lease termination fees for the full year of 2025, with about $230,000 coming in the fourth quarter. I would consider this a more normalized level. Historically, we've averaged around $3 million per year before the last two elevated years, which breaks down to just under $1 million per quarter. This number can vary, so we don't emphasize it too much. Looking ahead to 2026, we are anticipating a more normalized level closer to the $3 million to $4 million range for lease termination fees.

Bennett Rose, Analyst

I would like to ask about the acquisition activity in 2026, which appears to be higher than what we've experienced in the past. Are you noticing any additional competition for your assets? I understand that many of your opportunities come from long-term relationships, but I'm interested in your overall perspective on the acquisition competition landscape.

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. We've always operated in a highly competitive environment. There's always been competition; just the names have changed over the course of 20 years of my career. So I'm not really seeing incremental competition entering the market. All the deals we do for the most part are with sophisticated tenants. So they have a fiduciary responsibility to market the asset. But we just kind of get the first call and the last call, and that's where we rely on our relationships. But that's why I do expect cap rates to compress a little bit possibly in the second or third quarter, just because there are peers out there that feel the need to elevate the acquisition activity, so they got to win a lot more deals.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from John Kilichowski with Wells Fargo.

William John Kilichowski, Analyst

My first one is just on the acquisition guide and thinking about funding mix. Could you just walk us through the building blocks here? I think it's about $200 million of free cash flow. You got high-end dispositions, $150 million. I'm just curious how much are you willing to take leverage up to maybe go above and beyond that high end? Or what's that capacity there?

Stephen Horn, CEO

John. So one, we really don't have any upside to take our leverage. We're sitting at 5.6x. I think ideally, we generally have been around 5.5x. So not looking to lever up to drive that acquisition volume. So as I said, we're projecting $600 million at the midpoint of our guidance, that is pretty much entirely self-funded with free cash flow of $210 million as expected, $130 million of dispositions, and then some incremental debt financing to stay leverage neutral. And then again, beyond that, if there are additional opportunities, it really will depend on what the market conditions are, where the cap rates we're talking about, and what our cost of capital is at that time. The other thing that we could look to do is rather than lever up, is to lead to some more dispositions. That would be an alternate source of equity if the stock is not where it needs to be.

William John Kilichowski, Analyst

Got it. Very helpful. And then an extension of that would be sort of the cost of those dispositions. I know there's a handful of vacancies. What's like a good blended cap, I guess, we should be thinking about in terms of the costs that you're getting on those sales?

Stephen Horn, CEO

We don't know exactly which assets we're going to dispose of in the aggregate of that, at the high end of the range of $150 million. This year, there will be a little bit more defensive sales on the portfolio pruning. So I would guess on income-producing assets, I would expect a little bit of an elevated cap rate selling the assets. But when you blend it out, it will be, I would guess, significantly below the 150 basis points of where we're going to deploy capital.

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. And John, we do have some vacancies that are still higher than they were prior to the two tenants having some issues there in late 2024. And so there will still be a healthy number of vacant sales in 2026.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley.

Ronald Kamdem, Analyst

I have two quick questions. First, how do you expect occupancy to trend throughout the year? Second, regarding bad debt, considering the experience you had last year and the guidance of 75 basis points, can you explain the reasoning behind your confidence that there won't be another significant issue?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. I'll take the occupancy and Vin can talk more about the bad debt. I think end of the first quarter, early second quarter. I expect the occupancy to trend up a little exactly what Vin said, we'll sell a few more vacancies that are in progress right now. But I don't expect it to be significantly higher, but trending a little bit higher. And our historical average is 98%, plus or minus. So I think we'll plateau there.

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. And Ron, on the bad debt, I mean, what gives us confidence in the 75. I mean, I think, one, you've got history, right? This is a portfolio that's been through every cycle, you can imagine. And historically, the company has realized, call it, 30 to 50 basis points of bad debt. So that's part of it. The other part is, as Steve and I both mentioned in our prepared remarks, we're really not seeing anything that we feel is an imminent issue from a watch list perspective, nothing at least of a material nature. There's always going to be some small tenants that fall out here and there. But from a material perspective, nothing really that we feel like we need to call out. And so that's giving us the confidence that, again, 75 basis points is higher than our historical. But again, to start the year, we're just trying to make sure that we're not getting ahead of ourselves.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Jana Galan with Bank of America.

Unknown Analyst, Analyst

Again, following up on the 2026 guidance, the expectation for the real estate expenses is down versus 2025. And it sounds like you're thinking that term fees will be lower. So would this just be better occupancy? Or were there any kind of onetime things that could be driving the expenses?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. So Jana, last year, we did $17.3 million on net real estate expenses, and that's because we did have an elevated number of vacancies tied to the restaurant and the furniture operator. So we were sort of at the peak, call it, 90-ish vacancies. We're down to about 64% at the end of the year. I think we do have some line of sight on some of the additional resolutions that Steve outlined in his prepared remarks. And so that's driving further vacancy declines and that would result in lower real estate expense net.

Unknown Analyst, Analyst

And then maybe just on the watch list, you mentioned no imminent issues, no major changes. But just curious, the current watch list. Are there any kind of common themes with industries or regions? Or is this more like idiosyncratic one-off issues?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. I would describe it more as unique situations. There are definitely no regional trends to highlight, but the tenants on the watch list include AMC, which has been there due to specific challenges in the movie industry. There's nothing immediate we expect from them, so that’s quite a distinct case. Additionally, At Home remains on our watch list, even though they successfully exited bankruptcy without causing us significant concerns. But once again, it's more about unique conditions.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Brad Heffern with RBC Capital Markets.

Brad Heffern, Analyst

Steve, can you give your thoughts on car wash? It looks like maybe you invested more in the quarter, and you've got 4 car wash tenants in the top 20. Has been a source of investor concern at times, although not necessarily a source of concern from REITs. But do you think the sector has sort of gotten through its tough patch and what's the outlook?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. Our analysis indicates that our car washes are performing very well with strong rent coverage. Most of the car washes we own were acquired over ten years ago, which means our purchase price is very low, resulting in high rent coverage. We are quite selective with our car wash investments, carefully considering the price point. Interestingly, we have received interest from some car washes for a few restaurant vacancies since the locations are attractive for redevelopment. However, we've encountered many cities that do not permit new car washes due to existing competition. This presents a barrier to entry for many places, and overall, our car washes are doing well. We have no concerns, and we are glad we didn't pursue the Zip's deal after evaluating the price points. We have a strong ability to assess car wash investments.

Brad Heffern, Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then, Vin, on G&A, it's a pretty big jump year-over-year. Is there anything unusual in there like investing in the platform or something like that?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. So it is up a little bit more from a percentage basis more than inflationary amount. I think just to keep things in perspective, though, I mean, if you look at it as a percentage of total revenues, we expect to be in that 5.5% range. So still very manageable. So in that context, not a significant jump. But there are a couple of things that are driving that increase, one of which is we were in a free rent period on our headquarters in Orlando here in 2025. And so that's about a $1 million headwind in 2026. And then we did have a number of promotions. Our team is executing well and developing well. And so we have a number of promotions as well as a few net new hires. And then lastly, we did add one new executive to the team in August. So those are sort of the drivers of the higher than inflationary amount of G&A.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Rich Hightower with Barclays.

Richard Hightower, Analyst

Vin, I want to go back to, I think, one of your parts of the prepared commentary where you talk about sort of debt structure being sort of matched up with the average lease term in the portfolio, and I thought that was a helpful comment. So maybe if you don't mind talking about as you sort of increase the balance of term loans relative to other sources of debt within the debt stack, how do you sort of think about that trade-off between headline coupon and duration risk if we split it up that way?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. Look, it all goes into the mixer as far as how we think about it, right? I mean we do have to think about the overall cost of debt. But at the same time, we were tracking around 11 years of duration, and our lease duration actually has picked up in the last 2 quarters, which is not typical. But as we think about that, we had a little bit of room to close that gap. And so that allowed us to do a little bit of shorter-term debt on the term loan side. Again, it's not a strategy in and of itself to use short-term debt. It's just looking at our assets and liability matching and making sure that we're relatively close on that front and then weaving in some lower cost of debt if we can.

Richard Hightower, Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And secondly, I guess, on one of your peer calls earlier today, we sort of heard the comment that as far as the competition within the marketplace for acquisitions, you do have some buyers maybe a little more motivated by some of the accelerated depreciation features of the OBBBA bill that passed. And so what are you seeing in that regard? Do you see sort of irrational pricing? And would this cause you potentially maybe to lean into the disposition side of guidance a little more and obviously being cognizant of sort of earnings dilution that might come with that? Just how do you balance that out?

Stephen Horn, CEO

I think it's an interesting point. We experienced higher dispositions because we've focused on both vacant and income-producing properties. However, regarding competition, a competitor that may have participated in an earlier call operates in a different market, purchasing open or larger existing portfolios, typically ranging from $50 million to $100 million. The current competition in the private market must invest a significant amount of capital and is unlikely to pursue $10 million to $15 million sale-leasebacks. Therefore, competition is not significantly impacting us. If I needed to handle $1.5 billion to $2 billion, my perspective on competition would likely change. However, with a midpoint of $600 million, we can easily secure our fair share and execute the sale-leaseback structure. As Vin mentioned, it’s unusual for a net lease company’s lease duration to increase quarter-over-quarter for larger portfolios. This is due to a mix of sale-leasebacks and our acquisitions averaging over 18 years. More importantly, as Michael pointed out regarding proactive portfolio management, we are selling shorter-term leases. The lease duration of our sold income-producing assets was 6.1%, while tenants paying rent were at 5%. Combining these factors and selling at a 6.4% cap rate demonstrates strong execution.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Omotayo Okusanya with Deutsche Bank.

Omotayo Okusanya, Analyst

Yes. So just wanted to understand, again, the occupancy, the quarter-over-quarter occupancy gain. Was most of that mainly because you just sold vacant assets? Or are we really kind of thinking about really strong leasing activity as well in the fourth quarter and the implications for 2026?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Most of the positive results were primarily due to the sale of vacant assets. We also experienced some re-leasing during the quarter, and there is strong demand, as indicated by our recapture rates. However, the impact of vacancies being resolved through sales was significantly greater than that of re-leasing. Looking towards 2026, we expect to see additional resolutions of vacancies from either asset sales or re-leasing activities. Consequently, we anticipate a reduction in vacancies over time, which is also shown in our year-over-year decrease in net real estate expenses.

Omotayo Okusanya, Analyst

That's helpful. And then in regards to the '26 guidance, again, with the midpoint, 3.2% earnings growth that good to see acceleration from 2.7% in 2025. And I think, again, there is some headwind as it relates to termination fees, which was elevated in 2025. So the question is again, I just kind of think about what is normalized again, not necessarily asking the '27 guidance or anything like that. But how do you guys kind of think about just normalized AFFO per share growth and kind of ultimately where you were trying to get to in terms of steady state earnings growth?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. Our bottom-up approach aims for mid-single digit growth over the long term. For instance, this year we saw a growth rate of 2.7%, with a midpoint projection of 3.2%. Whether the following year sees an increase depends on the macroeconomic environment and the portfolio composition. However, consistent mid-single-digit growth in FFO has been our guiding principle for some time.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from Alec Feygin with Baird.

Alec Feygin, Analyst

So you mentioned in your prepared remarks that you expect cap rates to compress later down in the year. Is that due to deal mix, or can you just speak about why that's your assumption?

Stephen Horn, CEO

I think it's a prudent assumption to think you might have a little compression in the cap rate And it's really driven by working, as I said, in a highly competitive environment, it's driven by the pressure of peers deploying capital. And that's what it comes down to as we move through the year.

Operator, Operator

Next question is coming from Linda Tsai with Jefferies.

Linda Yu Tsai, Analyst

The $3.55 midpoint of your AFFO per share guidance include a refinancing headwind from the $350 million debt coming due in December?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes, we do have that debt coming due at the end of the year. We have some refinancing assumptions included, but the actual refinancing doesn't significantly impact us since the maturity is so late in the year. However, we do have some assumptions in place.

Linda Yu Tsai, Analyst

Do you have any idea what rate you might refinance that at?

Vincent Chao, CFO

Yes. So I mean, we're looking at a range of options. As we talked about in an earlier question, we do look at our duration and we look at our cost of debt and the different options that we have. We did execute on the term loan and a little bit of a shorter-term bond offering last year. So those are all still potential options. But I think if you're just talking about where could we price a 10-year today, it’d probably be in the 5.25% to 5.20% rate on a 10-year bond.

Linda Yu Tsai, Analyst

Got it. And then just a follow-up on the cap rate compression comment in 2Q and 3Q. Any sense of the magnitude?

Stephen Horn, CEO

I think it's going to be a slight compression right now. We're starting to price Q2 deals, call it, 5 to 10 basis points for Q2.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is coming from James Kammert with Evercore ISI.

James Kammert, Analyst

Could you remind me after all this major acquisition activity in what is the representative average lease escalator now in the portfolio?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes. I mean we're a battleship, Jim. We could layer on $1 billion of acquisitions, and it's not going to change the portfolio escalator. It's still 1.5% for modeling purposes.

James Kammert, Analyst

Fair enough. And then just to layer on, Steve, your earlier comment that you did a bit of defensive sales of occupied assets is what I read or interpreted, including in the fourth quarter. Realizing is hindsight, but what kind of drove that a little bit higher than maybe anticipated 7.6% cap rate on those 18 occupied assets disposed? Is that one particular tenant concentration? Or just curious what was going on there?

Stephen Horn, CEO

No, for the most part, we receive an indication from the tenant during discussions that they want to exit a market. Who knows the market and the asset better than the actual tenant? We have those conversations, and there were about four or five years left on leases where they indicated they would not renew at the end of the year. So we decided to sell those. It wasn't just one specific tenant; it was more about an entire industry. It was a general portfolio pruning. Additionally, a few tenants were not paying rent, and they weren’t occupying the properties, which leads to issues we eventually have to address. However, there were also some income-producing properties where the tenant, in this case from the casual dining sector, mentioned plans to exit the market or redevelop another site. We then decided to sell those as there were six years remaining on the leases.

Operator, Operator

Our final question today is coming from John Massocca with B. Riley.

John Massocca, Analyst

I know you've talked a lot about kind of cap rate trends over the course of the call, but maybe are you seeing some of that compression already in the, let's call it, 1Q pipeline, given that's kind of where you have the most visibility? Or is that relatively flat on a cap rate basis versus what you saw in 4Q?

Stephen Horn, CEO

Yes, it could be consistent throughout Q3, Q4, and Q1, as I mentioned earlier. We have completed pricing for the first quarter, and any deals we initiate now would be for early in the second quarter. Based on the pricing for the second quarter, I am observing a slight decline, but the first quarter remains stable.

John Massocca, Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of dispositions in 4Q, of those vacant assets, kind of roughly how much of that was former restaurant locations?

Stephen Horn, CEO

The vast majority were former restaurant locations. As I mentioned, we have 5 of them left, which will all be for sale. But the restaurant assets, we were marketing for a long time since early 2025, an issue that they just kind of completed in that fourth quarter.

John Massocca, Analyst

Okay. In thinking about the disposition assumption in 2026 guidance, how much of that consists of general vacant assets or specifically restaurant assets?

Stephen Horn, CEO

I think it will likely be more of the restaurant-type assets linked to the operations since those make up the majority of our vacant assets. So, mathematically, it works out that way. We treat all vacant assets the same, whether they are restaurant assets or from another industry; it's just a matter of math. We consider whether to re-lease it based on the present value of cash flow, dispose of it, or reinvest the proceeds. Ultimately, it's about what is best for our shareholders, and that's our approach. As a percentage, 2026 will be less of a percentage than 2025. I think the vacant assets in 2025, it was a good percentage. 2026 will be less.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. So I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Horn for any closing remarks.

Stephen Horn, CEO

No, I appreciate you guys taking the time listening in and then good questions. Look forward to seeing you kind of through the conference season. And then we're in good shape. I'll turn the page on '25 and get back to growth in '26. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.