Earnings Call Transcript
Opendoor Technologies Inc. (OPEN)
Earnings Call Transcript - OPEN Q2 2024
Operator, Operator
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Opendoor's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker today, Kimberly Niehaus, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Kimberly Niehaus, Head of Investor Relations
Thank you, and good afternoon. Details of our results and additional management commentary are available in our earnings release and shareholder letter, which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at investor.opendoor.com. Please note that this call will be simultaneously webcast on the Investor Relations section of the company's corporate website. Before we start, I would like to remind you that the following discussion contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. All statements other than statements of historical facts are statements that could be deemed forward-looking, including, but not limited to, statements regarding Opendoor's financial condition, anticipated financial performance, business strategy and plans, market opportunity and expansion and management objectives for future operations. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees and undue reliance should not be placed on them. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed here. Additional information that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements can be found in the Risk Factors section of Opendoor's most recent annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023 as updated by our periodic reports filed after that 10-K. Any forward-looking statements made on this conference call, including responses to your questions, are based on management's reasonable current expectations and assumptions as of today and Opendoor assumes no obligation to update or revise them, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. The following discussion contains references to certain non-GAAP financial measures. The company believes these non-GAAP financial measures are useful to investors as supplemental operational measurements to evaluate the company's financial performance. For a reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP metric, please visit our website at investor.opendoor.com. I will now turn the call over to Carrie Wheeler, Chief Executive Officer of Opendoor.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Good afternoon. Also on the call with me today are Christy Schwartz and Dod Fraser. At Opendoor, our vision is to build the most trusted e-commerce platform for residential real estate, and we're focused on building a durable generational business that customers love so that one day, every seller will start their home-selling journey with Opendoor. We're proud of our performance in the second quarter. Revenue, contribution margin and adjusted EBITDA all outperformed guidance, and acquisitions grew nearly 80% year-over-year. At the same time, our seller NPS reached the highest level we've seen in two years, proof of the strength of our customer value proposition. Home sellers desperately need an alternative to the traditional real estate process, and that's exactly what we're providing. During the quarter, we continued to make meaningful progress growing our top of funnel to reach more sellers and expanding our product offering to convert more customers. Today, our buybox is just north of $650 billion. This is a massive addressable market that we're going after. One of the most important ways we can grow our top of funnel is by increasing awareness of our brand and our products. Year-to-date, we've seen that over 1 in 4 true sellers or customers within our buybox that ultimately went on to list or sell their home had previously entered their home address on our website. And while that's something to celebrate, we also recognize that we have a significant opportunity to expand our reach. We want all sellers to start their journey with Opendoor. To do this, we have shifted our marketing mix toward brand media spend versus direct response. And as a result of our efforts to increase branded salience, aided awareness and consideration have reached the highest levels in Opendoor history. Importantly, while higher awareness brings more customers to the platform, it also improves conversion rates. As an example, in our markets where aided awareness is 45%, which is primarily our most mature markets, we see 33% higher offer to contract conversion rates when compared to markets with an awareness of 26%. Further, over half of our markets were launched in 2021 and 2022, right before the housing reset and our significant pullback in marketing spend, and these markets have awareness of less than 20%. We believe that with incremental investments in time, these cohorts should provide significant tailwinds to future volume growth. We also have the ability to drive growth by expanding our product offering with a suite of products that best suits the needs of all sellers that come to us. For a decade, our flagship all-cash offer product has provided simplicity and certainty to sellers who are looking for an easier way to sell their home. However, we know that other sellers are interested in testing the market and listing their home on the MLS. And in an effort to better serve these customers, we've expanded List with Opendoor to nearly all of our markets in the second quarter. We now give customers a choice of how they'd like to sell their home: selling directly to Opendoor or listing on the market. If they choose our listing product, we list their home with the help of one of our partner agents and if they don't find the price they want, they have up to 30 days to accept our cash offer and complete their sale. Since launching this product, we've seen a nearly 10% uplift in NPS. Further, this capital-light offering has the potential to be accretive to both total volumes and margins as it gains traction over the long term. While we are focused on enduring improvements to our business, we also have to make tactical decisions in the short term to strike the right balance of growth, margin and risk against what continues to be a challenging housing backdrop. In the back half of the second quarter, we began observing and responding to signals that indicated additional slowing in the housing market. The combination of higher delistings and slowing clearance rates led to a decline in month-over-month home price appreciation or HPA. HPA entered negative territory in June, two months earlier than a typical year. In response to this weaker HPA, we began increasing spreads more than we had expected. This will weigh on acquisition volumes in the third quarter. In addition, we have taken larger home-level price drops to maintain clearance levels within our resale targets, which will impact our contribution margin. With an increasing probability of interest rate reductions by the Fed in the second half of 2024, there are reasons to believe that we may benefit from any potential tailwinds in housing market activity. That being said, we will continue to preserve flexibility in setting spreads to operate against a range of macroeconomic outcomes in 2024. While we expect the current macro to be temporary, the progress we've made growing our top of funnel and expanding our product offering, combined with the operating and cost discipline we're driving across the business, are enduring. Today, we announced that our business unit Mainstay is becoming an independent privately held company in conjunction with an outside equity investment led by Khosla Ventures. Mainstay is a comprehensive market intelligence and transaction platform for the single-family rental industry. Mainstay was built as a separate business, leveraging Opendoor's data insights, transaction platform capabilities and enterprise customer relationships. This transaction sets up both Opendoor and Mainstay to focus on building their respective businesses with dedicated teams and resources. Mainstay will be co-led by Dod Fraser, who's led the business developments since inception, alongside a dedicated team. With today being his last earnings call, I want to extend my thanks to Dod for all his contributions to Opendoor. As we look forward to the future, we remain as focused as ever on reinventing one of life's most important transactions. And to do that, we're positioned to rescale our business in a durable and sustainable way so we can provide simplicity and certainty to millions of customers who will move in the years to come. Christy will now review our financial results and guidance.
Christy Schwartz, CFO
Thank you, Carrie. Our second quarter performance reflects strong execution and continued operating and cost discipline across the business. We delivered over 1.5 billion of revenue in the second quarter, exceeding the high end of our guidance range. This represents a 28% sequential increase in revenue, driven by acquisition volume growth over the last several quarters. On the acquisition side, we purchased 4,771 homes in the second quarter, ahead of our expectations. Acquisitions were up 78% versus 2Q '23 due to lower spreads and increases in marketing and contributions from partnership channels. Contribution margin was 6.3% in the second quarter, ahead of the high end of the implied guidance range. This outperformance was partially due to selling more newly listed homes with shorter holding times than anticipated. Adjusted operating expenses totaled 100 million for the quarter, lower than the guidance of 110 million and down from 107 million in the first quarter of 2024 due to a pullback in marketing spend and reduced fixed headcount hiring. Finally, adjusted EBITDA loss was 5 million, significantly outperforming the high end of our guidance range and an improvement from an adjusted EBITDA loss of 50 million in the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA came in ahead of expectations due to contribution margin outperformance and ongoing cost discipline. Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with 1.2 billion in total capital, which primarily includes 809 million in unrestricted cash and marketable securities and 300 million of equity invested in homes and related assets. We also had 7 billion in non-recourse asset-backed borrowing capacity composed of 3 billion of senior revolving credit facilities and 4 billion of senior and mezzanine term debt facility, of which total committed borrowing capacity was 2.3 billion. Before we get into guidance, I'd like to provide a few additional comments on the Mainstay transaction. Mainstay will operate independently, and Opendoor will retain less than 50% ownership on a fully diluted basis. The company is in the process of assessing the financial statement impact of the fundraise, but we do not anticipate recognizing Mainstay's ongoing financial results in Opendoor's income or loss from operations going forward. In the first half of 2024, the Mainstay business had a de minimis impact on Opendoor's revenue and contribution profit and incurred approximately 17 million of adjusted operating expenses. Our 3Q guidance reflects reductions in operating expenses as a result of the Mainstay transaction, which closed one month into the quarter. As Carrie mentioned, in the back half of the second quarter, we began observing signals in leading macro metrics that indicated additional slowing in the housing market. In response, we have increased spreads more than previously anticipated and slowed marketing spend to ensure dollars are being spent efficiently. These actions will put pressure on third quarter acquisitions, which we expect to be up slightly year-over-year. We will continue to acquire homes at spreads we believe are appropriate as we manage our business against a dynamic housing backdrop. We expect third quarter revenue to be between 1.2 billion and 1.3 billion, contribution profit between 35 million and 45 million, which implies a contribution margin of 2.9% to 3.5%, and adjusted EBITDA loss between 70 million and 60 million. We expect adjusted operating expenses to be approximately 105 million. We are maintaining our target clearance levels via larger than anticipated price drops on our homes, the impact of which will weigh on contribution margin, as reflected in our third quarter guidance. If current macro trends persist, there is a risk our full-year contribution margin may fall below our 5% to 7% annual contribution margin target. We are pleased with our second quarter performance and continue to make progress on the things we can control. We will continue to evaluate our cost structure to mitigate losses and we remain committed to make progress in increasing acquisitions and substantially decreasing our adjusted net income losses for the year as compared to 2023.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Our first question comes from Dae Lee with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Dae Lee, Analyst
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I have two. The first one, what do you attribute to recent softness in the housing market and wondering if this is something that continues to get worse or has it stabilized or are you seeing any signs of improvement? And then secondly, just given the worst macro outlook, do you feel the need to tap into the ATM program that you announced back in last earnings call?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Hi, Dae. It's Carrie. I'll start with that. So with respect to the macro, what we saw really sort of late May was a worsening of signals as it relates to clearance. So clearance is about 35% lower this year than last year. So just homes selling more slowly, taking longer days on market. We saw delistings really start to accelerate and they're at a decade high. We've been in the market now for 10 years, and they're at a level we have not seen in our operating history. About one in five sellers are not seeing the price they hope to realize, and they're putting themselves off the market. That's creating a shadow book of inventory that's out there; all of those have been weighing on home prices. And so that's what we've been responding to. We raised spreads in response to that. I mean, sorry, raised spreads in response to that. Really pulled back on acquisition pacing and on marketing spend. With respect to your question about the ATM, I'm going to hand it over to Christy.
Christy Schwartz, CFO
Hi, Dae. Thanks for the question. Just as a reminder, as of the end of the quarter, we have $1.1 billion inclusive of cash, marketable securities and equity in our homes and related assets. We'll continue to be opportunistic and flexible in managing our capital base as we demonstrated with our convertible note repurchases in 2023 and in implementing the ATM last quarter. We did not utilize the ATM in the previous quarter as you can see in our 10-Q, but we don't speak to future capital issuances.
Dae Lee, Analyst
Got it. Just to follow up on your first question, it seems like the macro conditions haven't really changed, right? Mortgage rates are relatively stable, and there are no signs that the Fed will cut rates. I'm curious why you think sellers and buyers are acting this way despite what appears to be a stable macro environment?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes, what we're seeing now in underwriting across our buybox, about a third of the U.S. residential market, and we're taking in new signals every single day, and this is definitely what we are seeing in terms of where seller expectations are and how buyers are responding. I just think buyer affordability is a real issue here. We are seeing new listings coming up. We're not seeing the pace of sell-through. And this delisting phenomenon, Dae, like there's a chart in the back of our shareholder letter you may want to look at. I don't think this has gotten a lot of action in some of the industry talk, but I think it's a real factor that is weighing on the industry. Obviously, we all know that there's pretty low transaction volumes right now that would have not picked up and just the phenomenon, not a lot of buyers and sellers who are relatively frozen right now.
Operator, Operator
One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ygal Arounian with Citi. Your line is open.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Hi, guys. Max on for Ygal. I guess just my first question on your comments on the contribution margin maybe coming in lower than that 5% to 7%. Just how do we think about that as it rolls through the year? And looking through your prior book, we noticed that 2Q did better with selling some of the newer homes first. So can you just speak to maybe the health of the older book and how that compares?
Christy Schwartz, CFO
Yes. This is Christy here. Thanks for the question. So we're not providing guidance for 4Q. We provided the guidance for 3Q. For 4Q, I'll just caution that it is seasonally a softer quarter than that typically sees lower HPA. In terms of the health of the book and the newer book, as we mentioned in the second half of last quarter and the second quarter, we saw additional softness in the housing market including slowing clearance, increased delistings, worsening HPA. And at that time we increased spreads, and we feel good about the homes that we've acquired after those increases. We enacted home-level price drops to operate against our resale targets, and that impacts contribution margin, but it also enables us to clear that portfolio quickly.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes. I'll echo everything that Christy said. The only thing I would pile on top of that is we were acting quickly to the environment we're seeing. So yes, there's some pressure on the homes we already owned. We're operating to manage within our resale targets. That shows up in Q3 margin guide. And then we get to reset, and as we raise spreads now we're buying a new set of homes, and we like the way those early cohorts are performing, and we're being nimble. We're announcing inflows and outflows. I think this is just good risk management.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Okay. That's helpful. And then just maybe on expenses. Just with the maybe tougher macro, do you expect that there are more cost optimizations that you'll need to undertake to reach that adjusted net income target?
Christy Schwartz, CFO
Yes, absolutely. So I'll start by saying that we're still very focused on durably optimizing our cost structure. We've made and are continuing to make meaningful progress throughout the P&L. In terms of looking forward, we guided to 105 million. That's kind of comprised of two components for how it relates to Q2. One is that we expect to remove some costs from the system because of the Mainstay transaction, that's approximately a $5 million reduction. But then the OpEx guidance, the increase gives us some flexibility to operate in a dynamic environment, especially as we consider deploying marketing dollars later in the quarter. We've been operating at about 100 million or less of OpEx for the last six quarters at a variety of volumes. And we believe that, that 100 million does give us a lot of flexibility to scale.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes. Agree with everything Christy said. I'd also say, just stepping back, we know that we need to manage the business to a place where we are profitable, where we're generating positive cash flow and the entire organization is really geared towards that. And that is what we are going to manage for. And so if we're not pacing where we need to be in volume, we're going to continue to look hard at our cost structure.
Operator, Operator
One moment for our next question. Your next question comes from Nick Jones at Citizens JMP. Your line is open.
Nick Jones, Analyst
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I have two. The first one, in the letter, you called about 28% of consumers within your buy box kind of came and asked for a quote or a price or an offer and then went down to list homes. Can you speak to how that rate has fluctuated, particularly given increased delistings when things start to increase as maybe people have more confidence they can sell? Just curious as to how that metric has moved over time?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
I think the stat, Nick, that you're referencing is within the markets we are in today of true sellers. So those are people who, starting within a buy box, 28% of true sellers defined as people who either took an Opendoor offer or if they didn't take the others up on the offer, they went and listed their home on the market. About one-third of the people in those markets have come to us and entered their home. That's the stat I think you're referring to. And how is that fluctuating? I mean it’s something that we are - yes, sorry. Yes, I mean, it's higher in more mature markets, it's lower in less mature markets at a very high level. I mean a lot of that has to do with awareness and us being in the market for longer, signs on the street, more inventory for people to go and understand the value proposition. So where we've been for longer, we have higher awareness, we convert better and more people are coming to us first to start their home-selling journey. And our goal over time is to graduate our more immature markets and get them to a place where it's not one in four are people coming to us; it's hopefully all over time, frankly, are starting their home journey with us.
Nick Jones, Analyst
Got it. And then maybe kind of along the same thread. As we think about more mature markets versus less mature markets and just kind of overall awareness of Opendoor, how should we think about your strategy around maybe increasing brand spend or marketing spend ahead of an improving real estate market? It would seem like if you have quite a bit of cash, maybe you'd want to start spending ahead of things improving? Or is this kind of an indication that you and the team view things as still pretty precarious? We need more quarters of evidence that volumes are coming back? I guess just overall, like why not start spending more money ahead of rates coming down if that's just a way to unlock volume?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes, Nick, a really good question. I'd say a couple of things. If you look back at where we've been based since 2022, when we did cut a lot of marketing spend. We've been able to drive a lot more awareness on the back of, frankly, lower dollars, and that's because we've been changing mix. We've been taking money away from paid marketing and really leaning in on brand and creative, and that has been driving for what is now the highest level of awareness we've had across our markets in our history, which is great because when we have high awareness, people trust us, and conversion response commensurately. We would like to invest more on brand over time. I think we're always moderating our total amount of marketing spend relative to kind of where we are and how effective that is vis-à-vis how where our spreads are set. But your meta point is right is that over time, the way for us to grow top of funnel and grow awareness is we're going to continue to invest in brand because we think that's just going to set us up for success in the future and just expand the pie.
Nick Jones, Analyst
Great. If I could squeeze in one more. The buyer agent contracts are going to, I think, be implemented in a couple of weeks here. Is there any impact of that included in the guidance? Is there anything to flag on how you're thinking about that may impact the ecosystem in 3Q?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes, it's still early. We've been experimenting to understand how this will roll out so that we are prepared. One thing we're noticing in our market is about 10 to 15 basis points of pressure on the commission rate since April. While that's not a significant amount, it is a noticeable change compared to previous years where that rate remained relatively stable. We recognize that change is coming and it will take time to educate home buyers, sellers, and agents. We see this in our interactions with them as we figure out how to approach buyer compensation. Our main focus for the long term is that we believe this will benefit consumers, which in turn will benefit us. It will reduce transaction costs, decrease friction, and allow us to pass savings onto consumers, ultimately driving more transactions. As people become more informed, the importance of our unique direct e-commerce platform for buying homes will become clearer, and they should utilize our direct platform because we can offer them greater savings. We'll see how it unfolds; it should be an interesting summer.
Operator, Operator
One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ben Black with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Hi, this is Jeff on for Ben. Thanks for taking my questions. When you think about managing sort of the balance between maintaining your home clearance rates when there's sort of a multi-month period of home price appreciation volatility, while also having a kind of core focus on reducing spreads, how do you manage that balance? Because as you go through this period of volatility, you're lowering prices in order to get the homes off your balance sheet, but then at the same time, focusing on lowering the spreads to which you acquire homes. So how do you kind of manage that balance?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes. I mean we talk a lot externally and internally about managing for growth, margin, and risk. And one of the ways we manage for risk is we have well-defined resale targets by market and in total across our portfolio. And those are pretty sacrosanct for us. We make sure that we are clearing our inventory so that we are not creating a mismatch between inflows and outflows and that we're number one, managing for risk. There may be some cost to that sometimes, and we think that though is the appropriate risk management decision. And that's healthy.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
So is this sort of the model working as intended, and maybe like the 5% to 7% contribution margin target is sort of an over-time target, but we're going to experience some volatility in that number quarter-over-quarter depending on how HPA trends play out? Is that sort of the right way to think about it?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Yes. I mean we very much give an annual target by design. Over the course of the year, we want to be within that 5% to 7% range and nothing about that has changed. In terms of where we want to manage the business to, you may have some quarter-to-quarter volatility because of seasonality or market swings. But I think the point is we want to instrument our system so that we are managing for balance sheet health and delivering margins within an annual guide.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
Great. And one quick follow-up on sort of the NAR question. Did you think that that played a factor at all in kind of sellers freezing up and taking homes off the market? Do you think that there's any maybe sellers are waiting to sell their homes post-NAR settlement and get pay lower fees?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Not really, to be honest, I don't think so.
Operator, Operator
One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Curt Nagle with BofA. Your line is open.
Curtis Nagle, Analyst
Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions. So the comment, Carrie, you just made on the 10 to 15 basis points decline in commission rates is really interesting. It sounds like there's an average. So I guess, are you seeing a uniform decline across agents or are you seeing some agents getting really aggressive on rates or offered rates and that's dragging down the overall average? What's the composition of that statistic?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
That statistic is across our markets. So against sort of the market that we can underwrite today. Overall, buyer broker commission for those markets in total, putting aside what we're doing. That's where the pressure is coming in. It's pretty dispersed; it's not any one market driving the vast majority of that.
Curtis Nagle, Analyst
Right. No, I understand it from a market perspective, but I'm just saying are the per agent, are they all kind of taking it down a little bit? Or do you have agents that are getting really aggressive on the rates, and that's dragging down the average? That's the distinction I'm trying to figure out.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
I believe there is an 80/20 rule regarding agents, meaning a small percentage of them account for the majority of transaction volumes. Therefore, there are only a few agents responsible for most of the changes on the sell side, where sellers are choosing to offer less to buyers.
Curtis Nagle, Analyst
Okay. Got it. And then just what's the latest thinking on the '26 converts? I know it's about a year or so before the turn current, but cash did dip a bit in 2Q. Should we expect to be opportunistic as you have been in the past in terms of buying at a discount or is the priority more preserved cash or maybe cap ATM? How are you thinking about that?
Dod Fraser, Co-CEO
I just want to clarify that we do not comment on future capital transactions. We will always seek to optimize our capital structure, but I have no comment regarding future repurchases.
Curtis Nagle, Analyst
Okay. Fair enough. Understood. Thanks.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Ryan Tomasello with KBW. Your line is open.
Ryan Tomasello, Analyst
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just to put a finer point around the shifts you're making and the marketing strategy. What's driving that in terms of changes you're seeing around why you're choosing to do that now versus something you might have done earlier or later? And then in terms of mix, how has brand spend contributed to the overall marketing, but historically, where is that mix going? And do you see this as net neutral to the marketing budget on a normalized basis? I mean through the moving pieces with the 3Q OpEx guide, it sounds like that's going to be up sequentially despite the moving pieces with Mainstay. So just trying to understand if this is additive to the marketing budget overall or more of just a mix shift. Thanks.
Christy Schwartz, CFO
Ryan, it's Christy here. I can start by taking the marketing kind of budget and forward-looking question. And so we did reduce our advertising spend in the second quarter over the first quarter. I think our first quarter was 27 million, and then we brought it down to 21 million in the second quarter as we were increasing spreads. The operating expense guide that we provided for Q3 does give us some flexibility to consider deploying marketing dollars later in the quarter.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
And maybe just a comment on your question about how marketing strategy has evolved. I would say if you go back to maybe 2022, we've gone from heavy local spend and now having the size and scale to be effective at marketing nationally. You've seen some of our advertising campaigns and some of our work, but we couldn't do that cost-effectively at 20 markets; we can do it at 50 plus. And the other change in mix has been mostly paid and mostly online or a lot of it direct mail too, certainly, and now being able to kind of put more and more of that mix and less there and put it into brand and creative. And even though we may have had less dollars certainly coming out of 2022, we've seen like a heavy return on investment show up in the form of higher awareness and higher conversion. I'm happy to go on from there but I wanted to make sure I responded to your question first.
Ryan Tomasello, Analyst
Yes, that's helpful. I guess maybe just to clarify on 1 of the other sub-questions of the question, which is if this is additive or net neutral, I guess, notwithstanding the pullback that you made last quarter in response to market conditions?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
The shift in spend, I would call it neutral. It's been like if the pie is six, we're just moving around the dollars differently. Obviously, we flex marketing up and down sometimes depending on where we are in the cadence of the year or when spreads are really low, we can market more aggressively. We want to market into that. We may pull back as spreads are high. But the general point is this isn't about adding a bunch of brand dollars; it's about allocating away from other things into what's more cost-effective brand-building channels for us because we know that as we grow brand, it's like lists all our distribution channels.
Christy Schwartz, CFO
The shift in spend, I would call it neutral. It's been like if the pie is six; we're just moving around the dollars differently. Obviously, we flex marketing up and down sometimes depending on where we are in the cadence of the year or when spreads are really low, we can market more aggressively. We want to market into that. We may pull back as spreads are high. But the general point is this isn't about adding a bunch of brand dollars; it's about allocating away from other things into what's more cost-effective brand-building channels for us because we know that as we grow brand, it's like lists all our distribution channels.
Ryan Tomasello, Analyst
Got it. And then just turning to the balance sheet and financing, what visibility do you feel like you have into the maturities coming on the pipeline next year and I guess, even more in 2026? Just in terms of pricing and other terms around capacity and advance rates and just generally your comfort level with having enough financing capacity at favorable enough terms to fund the business as you look to scale from here?
Dod Fraser, Co-CEO
Yes, I'm happy to address that. We've organized our capital structure with various lenders intentionally, which provides us with flexibility. Additionally, the capital structure has staggered rolling maturities. Each quarter and year, we are extending the maturities across our capital stack, allowing us to consistently roll them over. We are at ease with our lenders regarding the balance sheet, and we feel confident about both our relationships and our ability to continue rolling them over.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Our last question comes from one moment. It comes from the line of Ryan McKeveny with Zelman Associates. Your line is open.
Nick McAndrew, Analyst
Hi, guys. This is Nick. I'm for Ryan. Thanks for taking a questions. One quick one on the partnership side. Is there any color you can add in terms of which partnership channel or channels have been the most significant in terms of volume contribution? And then I have a follow-up after this.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Hey, we've never broken down our partnership channel and who contributes what amongst homebuilders, agents and the online real estate players. They're all important. And as a group, as we said before, it's 40% plus of our volume. So we don't discriminate between the various mix.
Nick McAndrew, Analyst
Got it. That's helpful. Thank you.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
I can give a little more tidbit, which is like we've been with homebuilders for a long time. We've been with agents for a long time and growing. And then the online real estate folks for us are newer but important.
Nick McAndrew, Analyst
Got it. Yes. Thanks for the clarity. And then maybe switching gears, just as we look around the country, there's obviously many markets seeing inventory up on a year-over-year basis with some more than others, Florida, for example. And I'm just curious if that growth in inventory is helping you expand acquisitions in certain locations more than others? And then maybe on the home price side, if there's any differences in price or margin trends on resales as a result of those inventory dynamics?
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
No. It's not really. I think the growing levels of inventory you're seeing also is weighing on things like clearance rates that we talked about and the fact that people are sitting out there for longer and not seeing their homes turn and the pressure we talked on home prices and delisting rates coming up. So we're seeing inventory growing, but inventory getting kind of stale, and that pressure is clearing and that makes us very attuned to how we're clearing our book of inventory and making sure that we're managing within our resell guardrails, particularly at this time of the year as things start to slow seasonally.
Nick McAndrew, Analyst
Got it. Thank you so much.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
You're welcome.
Operator, Operator
And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Carrie Wheeler for any closing remarks.
Carrie Wheeler, CEO
Appreciate it. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We're pleased with where our results came out for the second quarter. We know the housing market continues to be challenging. We also know it will never last forever. It's going to be temporary. And the improvements we're making today to drive future growth will be enduring. Look forward to connecting with you next quarter.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day.