Earnings Call
OR Royalties Inc. (OR)
Earnings Call Transcript - OR Q3 2024
Operator, Operator
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Osisko Gold Royalties Q3 2024 Results Conference Call. After the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note, that this call is being recorded today, November 6, 2024, at 5:00 PM Eastern time. I would now like to turn the meeting over to our host for today’s call, Mr. Jason Attew.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Thank you, Joelle. Good evening, everybody, and thanks for being on today's call. I'm Jason Attew, President and CEO of Osisko Gold Royalties. Procedurally, I will run through the presentation and then we will open up the line for questions. For those participating online via the webcast, you can submit your questions in advance through the webcast platform. Today's presentation will also be available and downloadable online through our corporate website. Please note, that there are forward-looking statements in this presentation for which actual results may differ. Of particular note is that from Q4 2024 onwards, Osisko will be making a change to its presentation currency as it will also be reporting exclusively in US dollars. But for today, please note the basis of presentation will be in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. I'm joined today on the call by Fred Ruel, the company's VP, Finance and Chief Financial Officer, as indicated on slide 3, with some of my other colleagues also available as necessary. When looking at Osisko's third quarter and first nine months of 2024, we had a solid first three quarters as it relates to the gold equivalent ounces earned, cash margin, cash flows as well as overall debt reduction, especially when considering the loss of the Eagle Mine royalty as a key contributor in late June of this year. Osisko earned 18,408 gold equivalent ounces in the third quarter, which puts us in a good position as of September 30 to achieve our previously published full-year 2024 guidance of 77,000 to 83,000 gold equivalent ounces. Osisko's operating cash flows for the period came in at an impressive $47.2 million, and a cash margin of 96.3% during the period. More on Osisko's cash margin in a couple of slides. We came true on our commitment to cement at least one more deal that meets our investment criteria in 2024 over and above the Cascabel gold stream announced earlier this year, which we discussed in our second quarter results presentation. This came in the form of the acquisition of a 1.8% gross revenue royalty on Spartan Resources Dalgaranga Gold project in Western Australia, with the transaction expected to close in Q4. This transaction is only subject to approval by Australia's Foreign Investment Review Board. With respect to our opportunity set, the company's pipeline continues to remain robust with our corporate development team as busy as it's ever been. So while we might be running out of time to announce any more deals in calendar 2024, I would advise everyone to continue to watch the space over the next several months as we all head into the first half of 2025. Osisko ended the third quarter with $58.5 million in cash, and net debt has now been reduced to just over $20 million after the company continued to pay down its revolving credit facility during the period. Over the past 12 months, the state of our balance sheet has improved tremendously, increasing Osisko's financial flexibility to enable transactions on new accretive royalty and stream opportunities as they present themselves. With respect to our ongoing commitment to return capital to shareholders, the company declared and paid its quarterly dividend of $0.065 per share in Q3, marking its 40th consecutive dividend with over $300 million returned to shareholders to date from these distributions. Subsequent to the quarter, Osisko's Board of Directors approved a Q4 dividend of $0.065 per common share payable on January 15th, 2025, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on December 31st, 2024. In addition, and you'll have seen this in our Q3 MD&A, we tried to be opportunistic by being active on our normal course issuer bid during the period. However, we are only able to repurchase a total of 26,000 shares during the quarter or just under $600,000 prior to our share price making a step change higher. Moving on to the company's financial performance for Q3, quarterly revenues of $57.3 million tracked modestly lower when compared to Q3 of 2023. The lower year-over-year revenue in Q3 2024 comes as a result of Osisko having received just shy of 1,600 gold equivalent ounces on September 30th, a Canadian holiday, meaning that while these gold equivalent ounces were earned during the period, they were not sold and the associated revenue will be booked in Q4. Stronger commodity prices in Q3 2024 versus Q3 2023 were effectively offset by fewer GEOs this quarter versus the comparable quarter last year due to the suspension of the Eagle Mine. Earnings of $0.10 per basic share for the period marked a year-over-year improvement compared to last year when the company took the full non-cash impairment and write-off associated with this diamond stream at Renard. Most importantly, Q3 2024 saw a year-over-year improvement in both cash flow per share at $0.25 as well as quarterly adjusted earnings of $0.15 per basic common share. Moving on to Slide 6, I thought I would highlight a key metric, which we frequently reference in our public disclosure, because we think it's an important one and one that sees Osisko stand out amongst its peers, and that's cash margin. Osisko's cash margin as defined by deducting our cash cost of sales, excluding depletion from our revenues, was 96.3% for the quarter and 97% year-to-date. This owes more to our company's royalty-heavy portfolio and makes Osisko the leader amongst our relevant peers on this metric. At Osisko, we think margin matters. When it comes to cash margin, not all gold equivalent ounces are created equal. And in the case of Osisko, we effectively capture more value per gold equivalent ounce delivered versus those delivered to our peers, with our company and its shareholders benefiting to the tune of about $0.97 of every dollar of revenue generated. During the third quarter of 2024, the company had 20 producing assets. Our GEOs earned come predominantly from Canada, and we derived over 91% of our GEOs from precious metals, gold at just over 65% and silver at just over 26%. New this past quarter was a significant contribution of copper to the commodity mix, driven by a first of many deliveries from the CSA copper stream. Some comments on specific mine performances during the quarter before speaking about a couple of our more material assets in greater detail. Canadian Malartic had another solid quarter in Q3, albeit with a slight dip from the previous quarterly period. This mild difference was expected given Agnico's previously well-telegraphed planned downtime for scheduled maintenance, which took place during the third quarter. As we've experienced many times in the past, we're expecting our cornerstone contributor to end 2024 on a strong note. At Capstone Copper's Mantos Blancos operation, Q3 production was lower year-over-year due to a combination of lower throughput, grades, and recoveries, as well as some unplanned downtime during the period. Plant upgrades to sustainably reach 20,000 tonnes per day are now complete despite a roughly two-month delay from Capstone's initial plan due to longer equipment lead times. Assuming Capstone continues to find success in pushing the plant's throughput higher and keeping it at Phase 1 expansion design levels, Osisko expects to see the benefit of the increased throughput at Mantos Blancos translate into growing silver deliveries starting at the beginning of 2025. I'll touch more on Mantos Blancos in just a little bit. Finally, in the top right, you'll see our commodity mix, which in Q3 was just over 26% silver. With the improvements expected at Mantos Blancos, Osisko's revenue derived directly from silver is expected to rise around 30% over the next few years. This is why the company was officially included in the sole Active Global Silver Miners Total Return Index effective as of November 1st. This index is tracked by the Global X Silver Miners ETF, where Osisko now holds a top five weighting. Moving to Slide 8. And as I mentioned earlier, the number of currently producing assets in our portfolio stands at 20. Changes to the list include the recent removal of the Eagle mine, partially offset by recent additions of G Mining Ventures Tocantinzinho mine in Brazil, which announced its first gold pour in early July, as well as Agnico Eagle's Akasaba West satellite operation at its gold ex mine. On the latter, Osisko received its first payment from Agnico in July, whereas, on TZ, the first payment from G Mining is still expected this month based on a two-month lag associated with the quarterly royalty payments as structured in the contract. This current list of 20 assets also counts CSA as a single operating asset. However, as you all know, we have two instruments associated with this mine, a 100% silver stream in addition to our copper stream, with the copper stream having provided its first deliveries to Osisko in early July of this year. The next asset that we believe will be added to this list should be Nandimi, with commissioning of the mine and mill expected this month and potentially first gold poured before the end of the year. Moving on to slide 9. Our company continues to distinguish itself from the rest of its relevant peers as it relates to jurisdictional exposure. Osisko is the leader when it comes to both NAV and GEOs earned from what we define as Tier 1 mining jurisdictions, which include Canada, the United States, and Australia. Of note is that if we were to add Chile to that list of countries, we'd be at over 95%. This is why we think the announced acquisition of the Dalgaranga gross revenue royalty on September 30 was very much on brand for Osisko, as not only does it check the Tier 1 mining jurisdiction box, but the investment ticks all the important criteria of being a near-term long-life gold asset. This brings me to Slide 10, which provides some highlights related to our recent Dalgaranga 1.8% gross revenue royalty transaction. On September 30, we purchased from Tembo Capital a production royalty for USD 44 million, along with an additional royalty for USD 6 million on a massive proximal exploration land package, which for context is about half the size of Rhode Island. As noted previously, this transaction is expected to close in Q4 of this year after a customary review and approval from Australia's Foreign Investment Review Board. Over the past 24 months, Spartan Resources has reimagined and retooled the planned approach to Dalgaranga from an open-pit bulk tonnage operation to a high-grade underground concept. With all the necessary permits for the processing infrastructure already on site, the team there started refocusing on underground exploration and discovered the high-grade Never-Never deposit in 2022. Spartan moved rapidly to unlock the potential of this significant discovery, and the discovery of the high-grade underground Pepper deposit quickly followed suit. The project now comprises a current JORC-compliant mineral resource estimate that includes a high-grade resource of 1.9 million ounces at 8.7 grams per tonne. The exploration potential of this emerging resource is what really attracted us to this asset. We see parallels to the early innings of Alamos' Island Gold mine with this asset. As noted previously, this is a straight down the fairway transaction for Osisko, given it is an asset that checks all our boxes in terms of near-term GEOs, near-term cash flow generation, a top-tier mining jurisdiction, management quality, and significant exploration upside. We are expecting the key catalysts from Dalgaranga in the second quarter of calendar 2025, whereby Spartan has indicated they plan to release a maiden reserve estimate and project feasibility study. This information is likely to coincide with a final investment decision, which could see Dalgaranga restart mining and milling operations as early as late 2026. We see this exciting project fitting comfortably within our five-year outlook when we update our outlook out to 2029 in February of next year, with Dalgaranga potentially contributing well over 2,500 gold equivalent ounces annually to Osisko over the life of mine. Finally, with over 95 kilometers of drilling planned for Spartan's financial year 2025, we expect that the project will continue to grow in scale. Switching gears to Slide 11 and focusing on our cornerstone asset, the Canadian Malartic complex was front and center in Agnico Eagle's impressive Q3 2024 results announced last week. As noted, production was a tad lighter quarter-over-quarter, but this was expected, and our partner remains well on track to achieve production guidance for Malartic this year. Perhaps even more exciting were the headline drill results from the shallower parts of the East Gouldie deposit on which Osisko has a 5% NSR. Agnico specifically noted in their release that, and I quote, 'continued conversion drilling success in this area would confirm the potential to add mineral reserves that could provide additional production for the operation that would require modest additional lateral development considering the area's proximity to the existing ramp infrastructure.' Moving to Slide 12. Underground development at Odyssey progressed well in Q3 as ramp development continued on schedule. As of September 30, 2024, the main ramp had reached a depth of 873 meters. Recall that Agnico continues to study the potential to accelerate the first underground production from East Gouldie into 2026 from 2027 previously, as the ramp progress remains ahead of schedule. On the exploration front, we're excited to report that exploration drilling at the Odyssey mine and regional exploration drilling around the mine totaled 68,800 meters during the third quarter or nearly 150,000 meters during the first nine months of 2024, with up to 11 underground drill rigs and 13 surface drill rigs in operation, primarily targeting the East Gouldie and other Odyssey deposits. Osisko would also like to congratulate members of Agnico Eagle's Canadian Malartic exploration team as it was announced yesterday that they were selected to be the recipients of the PDAC 2025 Bill Dennis Award for their extraordinary discovery of the East Gouldie gold deposit. This discovery made in 2018 represents a major milestone in Canadian mineral exploration due to its size, geological significance, and economic value. The exploration team's perseverance, technical expertise, and commitment to innovation have been central to the success of this discovery. Consequently, Osisko couldn't think of a more deserving group for this award. On to Slide 13, which touches on Capstone Copper's Mantos Blancos mine, our second most important contributor. We're excited to say that things there finally appear to be turning the corner. In July, a successful two-week plant shutdown was completed, which included the installation of a new holding tank and additional pumps in the tailings area. These investments address deficiencies identified, preventing the sustained achievement of the 20,000 tonne per day throughput capacity from the sulfide operations. Following the plant ramp-up period in August, ore throughput averaged 18,062 tonnes per day through to the end of Q3, with plant throughput meeting or exceeding the nameplate capacity of 20,000 tonnes per day on 23 operating days. The overall variability of the milling process has been significantly reduced. If you listen to management on their Q3 results presentation, higher throughput is expected in Q4. Given our two-month delivery lag on the stream, our year-end at Mantos Blancos effectively ended last week on October 31. But this is very directionally good news as it bodes well for Osisko as we head into 2025, with improvements at Mantos Blancos expected to be the key year-over-year gold equivalent ounce growth driver for Osisko. Additionally, we are looking forward to a potential Phase 2 expansion at Mantos Blancos over the next few years with a feasibility study expected from our partner late next year. Moving to slide 14. After a solid Q3 2024, Osisko is on track to meet its 2024 gold equivalent ounce delivery guidance range of 77 to 83 gold equivalent ounces, which was revised last quarter after the suspension and subsequent full write-down of Eagle. I also just want to quickly flag Namdini on this slide. The mine and the mill are expected to be commissioned by operator Cardinal and Namdini at some point during this month, with the potential for first gold poured before the end of the year. Based on previously published technical studies, which we understand still underpin the expected mine plan, the grade profile at the mine sees higher grades upfront in the first two years, meaning Namdini should represent another key year-over-year growth driver for Osisko as we head into 2025. With a 15-year life of mine, we expect Namdini will also be a meaningful contributor to Osisko for many years to come. Our investee companies continue to make great strides in derisking their assets that will accrue to our shareholders. Highlights of some of these efforts are provided on slide 15. If there is one we haven't really discussed and one that I would like to highlight today, it would be OceanaGold's WKP, which in early October was approved under the New Zealand's government new Fast Track approvals Bill. We're expecting to find out more about OceanaGold's plans for the Wahi North WKP project before the end of the year as the results of the project pre-feasibility study are expected this quarter. Osisko owns a 2% NSR royalty on WKP. Finally, we'll end the formal part of the presentation on slide 16, which outlines the current state of Osisko's balance sheet. At quarter end, we had total debt of just over $80 million and net debt of only $22 million. This compares to net debt of just under $250 million in the comparative quarter of 2023. As responsible capital allocators, we have focused on using our cash flow from operating activities to pay down our revolving debt facility. Year-to-date, these repayments amount to over $115 million. During the quarter, Osisko Bermuda Limited also made a US$10 million payment to SolGold as their first installment under the Gold Stream agreement to further advance the Cascabel project in Ecuador. As we are now in the fourth quarter, it is also worth recalling that we're expecting to pay Tambo US$50 million during this current period once the Dalgaranga transaction closes. Assuming no new transactions are announced by Osisko or any of its subsidiaries between now and year-end, the company should be in a net cash position by early 2025. This is important as Osisko's corporate development team continues to be active with the hope of getting more deals across the line over the next several months. Our improved balance sheet provides the company with the financial capacity and flexibility to continue its strategy of disciplined allocation in the pursuit of high-quality accretive precious metal streams and royalties that will bolster the company's current and near-term gold equivalent ounce deliveries as well as cash flows, all of which should accrue to our shareholders' benefit. Lastly, on behalf of all the employees and Board of Osisko, we'd like to thank Rob Krcmarov for his valuable guidance and advice over the past two years, as he moves on to take the helm at Hecla Mining. And with that, I'd like to thank everyone for listening today. We'll now open the line for questions, including those from the webcast. If we don't get to all the questions on the line, we'll make sure to respond offline to those that aren't covered on the webcast.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Your first question comes from Ralph Profiti with Eight Capital. Your line is now open.
Ralph Profiti, Analyst
Thanks, operator. Good afternoon. Jason, I wanted to ask a question on the Dalgaranga production profile, specifically your reference to 2,500 ounces annually, which I believe was a life of mine estimate. When we get into that high-grade core in those early years, do you have a sort of more of a near-term profile? If you look at potential diluted grades, I mean, my numbers come almost double that in the first few years. Just wondering if that is sort of a rational assumption. And then just a follow-up. If we're not going to get a mine plan until the second quarter of 2025, do you anticipate still including it in your next guidance update? Or will you wait?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Thank you, Ralph, for your question. And you noted the most important thing with respect to disclosure from Spark Resources. We will not see publicly the feasibility studies, as I mentioned, into 2025. So it's really difficult for us to comment on a mine plan that hasn't been developed. However, I will pass the microphone over to Guy, who is very familiar with, again, that investment and was one of the bigger advocates here at Osisko of us pursuing and transacting on that. So Guy, please?
Guy Desharnais, VP, Finance
Yes. Ralph, you correctly pointed out that the grade, they have potential to hit high grade earlier in the life of mine. We're trying to be a little bit conservative with respect to how those ounces are going through that plant, but there's also a buydown provision, and we don't know what's going to happen with that piece as well.
Ralph Profiti, Analyst
Okay. All right. Fair enough.
Guy Desharnais, VP, Finance
Sorry, Ralph, the other point is that the mill allows for 2.5 million tonnes per year. However, the company has sort of been communicating that they'll be using a portion of that, at least in the initial life of mine.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
With respect to your question on the five-year outlook, yes, in February of next year, we will be providing a five-year outlook, and you can expect that there will be some inclusion of Dalgaranga within our five-year outlook.
Ralph Profiti, Analyst
Okay. Thanks for that clarity. And I apologize if I missed this on Namdini. Are we expecting first revenue, including sort of that one to two-month lag that first gold is poured towards the end of the year? We may not see those first revenues until, say, Q1 or Q2 of 2025?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
I think that's a very good assumption. And yes, so yes, Ralph, I think that's what we're expecting here Q1 2025, if again, they pour first gold by the end of this year.
Ralph Profiti, Analyst
Okay. Thanks, Jason. Thanks, Steve.
Operator, Operator
Your next question comes from Kerry Smith with Haywood Securities. Your line is now open.
Kerry Smith, Analyst
Thanks, Jason. Will the plan for Dalgaranga be to draw down on your facility when it closes? Is that the short-term plan?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Yes, that's exactly right, Kerry. Again, it's US$50 million that will be coming out. We expect it's going to be coming out in Q4 of this year. It is subject, as I mentioned, to the approval in Australia. But the plan is to just draw on a revolver facility. But as you also note and noted from our quarter this year, we're making close to $50 million in operating cash flow per quarter, especially at these elevated gold prices. So we'll quickly pay that down based on our operating cash flow.
Kerry Smith, Analyst
Right. Okay. Okay. That's great. And then as you mentioned, you're going to switch over for calendar 2025 to U.S. dollar reporting then, correct?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Yes, that's correct. So our presentation currencies going forward for 2025 will be in U.S. dollars. Our functional currency still will remain as Canadian dollars.
Kerry Smith, Analyst
And with a large proportion of your revenues coming from Canada, would you think about doing any currency hedging then? I mean, I know you wouldn't hedge the commodity, but might you hedge some of the exchange exposure?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
That's a good question, Kerry. We view any form of foreign exchange hedging as a risk management strategy. Currently, there is a noticeable positive response to the U.S. dollar, and whether this trend will continue remains to be seen. We will consider implementing some U.S. dollar hedges as a team, but any actions taken will be minor and strictly for risk management purposes rather than speculation on currency.
Kerry Smith, Analyst
Got you. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Thanks, Kerry.
Operator, Operator
Your next question comes from Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
Hi, good evening. I wanted to ask about the transaction environment. Jason, you mentioned it's really busy, and there might not be another transaction this year, but we should keep an eye on the first half of next year. Can you share what you're observing out there? Is it still within the $50 million to $300 million range? Are you encountering opportunities that require adjustments to your transaction parameters, similar to what one of your competitors did with collars in their recent deal? I'm curious about whether the structure is changing for you as well.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Thank you for the question. The opportunity set is quite strong. Our focus remains on transactions ranging from $50 million to $400 million to $500 million, which will vary on a case-by-case basis. Initially, we assess asset quality. We've observed several transactions by our senior peers, some of which included debt facilities. Our approach is to tailor our solutions to our operating partners as much as possible, but asset quality is key. If we believe the asset and management quality are strong in a suitable jurisdiction, we will customize our offerings to stay competitive while maintaining discipline in our capital deployment. The market is competitive, and everyone is working to provide tailored solutions to various operating partners.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
So should I conclude from that that you would be open to equity and debt and collars if the opportunity was significant and you needed to provide that?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Look, for the right asset and the team got excited and knew we were going to actually provide very good returns to our equity holders, yes, I think everything is on the table in terms of what you've seen historically.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
Okay. And would most of the opportunities you're seeing still be in the development phase? Or are we seeing any that is more in the production phase?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
We're seeing a lot in the cash flowing stage, mainly due to the significant activity in our sector right now. We are working with several companies to assist them with acquisition finance, and these opportunities are all cash flowing at this moment. Additionally, there are some high-quality development assets we are looking at. It's case by case, but the focus of our team and the company is truly on opportunities that will have a meaningful and hopefully significant positive impact over the next five years.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
Okay. And did I hear correctly that you will be changing your reporting currency to U.S. dollars from Canadian dollars starting in 2025?
Jason Attew, President and CEO
That's correct.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
Okay. So Q4 will still be Canadian but starting with Q1, it would be all USD.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
And Q4 will be U.S. dollars and then into 2025, it will all be U.S. dollars.
Tanya Jakusconek, Analyst
Okay. So Q4 and going forward. Okay. That's great. Thank you for the clarity on that.
Operator, Operator
There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Jason for closing remarks.
Jason Attew, President and CEO
Look, thank you very much for everyone participating this evening. As I said, we had a very solid quarter at Osisko Gold Royalties, and we look forward to coming back with another solid quarter in Q4. So thank you for your time. Thank you for your support. And if there are any further questions, you know how to reach us. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.