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ProPetro Holding Corp. (PUMP)

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-06-30 For: 2023-06-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - PUMP Q2 2023

Operator, Operator

Good day, and welcome to the ProPetro Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Matt Augustine, Director of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Matt Augustine, Director of Corporate Development and Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning. We appreciate your participation in today's call. With me today is Chief Executive Officer, Sam Sledge; Chief Financial Officer, David Schorlemer; and President and Chief Operating Officer, Adam Munoz. This morning, we released our earnings results for the second quarter of 2023. Please note that any comments we make on today's call regarding projections or our expectations for future events are forward-looking statements covered by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to review our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. Also during today's call, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. Finally, after our prepared remarks we will hold a question-and-answer session. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Sam.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Thanks, Matt, and good morning, everyone. Building on our strong momentum, ProPetro again delivered solid results in the second quarter. David will walk you through our financial results in a few minutes, but first, I'd like to go over a few highlights from the quarter and take stock of where we are halfway through the year. As we've discussed many times, modernizing our fleet has been an important strategic priority, and this quarter we were pleased to deploy our seventh Tier 4 DGB dual-fuel hydraulic fracturing fleet. As expected, given our diversified blue-chip customer base, demand for our dual-fuel portfolio remains very strong and more insulated from any near-term bobbles in the market. Additionally, in the third and fourth quarter we will begin our new FORCE electric frac fleet deployments. We plan to deploy our first fleet in August and the second fleet early in the fourth quarter. We are also still on track to deploy two additional FORCE fleets in the first half of 2024. With the ongoing high demand for this equipment, we plan to begin operating these fleets as soon as we receive them. As you all know, we acquired Silvertip Completion Services in November of 2022, therefore making our entry into wireline services, and we are pleased to have seamlessly integrated the company since that time. The Silvertip acquisition continues to be a significant tailwind for ProPetro's earnings and free cash flow profile. ProPetro has developed a strong track record for identifying, acquiring, and successfully integrating high-quality assets, and we continue to make excellent progress on our strategic initiatives. We will continue to seek value-accretive acquisition opportunities to further enhance our growth. As always, we will be disciplined and opportunistic in deploying capital, prioritizing only high-return opportunities that will enhance free cash flow and create shareholder value. Consistent with our overarching focus on delivering strong returns for investors, in addition to reviewing value-enhancing acquisition opportunities our board and our management team also prioritize the return of capital to ProPetro shareholders. During the second quarter, we were pleased to announce a $100 million share repurchase program. The program authorized the repurchase of approximately 13% of the company's market capitalization based on the value of the shares at the time of the announcement in mid-May. The share repurchase program is directly aligned with our strategy to drive free cash flow growth and create value for our shareholders. Through this program, we plan to capitalize on dislocations between the company's public equity valuation and what we believe is its intrinsic value. During the second quarter, the company repurchased approximately 2.3 million shares for about $17.5 million, at an approximate 27% discount to the current share price as of July 31, 2023. This represents 2% of total outstanding shares. I would now like to address the market environment and recent headwinds and provide some detail on how we're navigating through the choppiness. Undisciplined pricing concessions at the expense of keeping fleets utilized, especially from some of our distant peers exposed to the spot market, did have an impact on the overall frac market. Due to some of these circumstances, we elected to sideline one fleet during the quarter. This was an easy decision for us given the low pricing we would have had to put forward to keep the fleet operating, and we are now able to strategically preserve these assets and not run the equipment at sub-economic levels. I want to reiterate that we are committed to only running our fleets at economic levels that earn full-cycle, cash-on-cash returns. I do want to note that because of our disciplined approach and our bifurcated offering, we have been able to effectively offset much of the pricing pressure in various ways, including directly handling or contracting more materials and services on location. We believe that ProPetro is positioned to effectively handle materials and services on location, and we'll continue to pursue more of that market. Even in the face of the headwinds I just mentioned, we remain confident in our ability to continue to deliver strong financial results. Looking into the future, we remain bullish on ProPetro's potential for growth and value creation over the next several years. We believe we are still in the early stages of a sustained upcycle that will be supported by the industrialization of the frac space, which is more resilient and disciplined than previous cycles. And we believe ProPetro is well positioned to succeed in this new chapter for our industry. We do expect the second half of the year will be only slightly down from operational levels that we saw in the first half. Therefore, we believe the current rig count is approaching the bottom and it's possible it might already be on bottom. Importantly, despite some of these challenges across our industry, we are not slowing down. ProPetro offers differentiation in our service quality, equipment, customer portfolio, and operational density in the Permian. We believe in this bifurcation internally and also hear this directly from our customers. This differentiation continues to insulate us from some of the market inconsistency outside of the Permian and in the spot market. We are confident that our continued capital discipline and improved free cash flow profile will allow us to maintain a strong balance sheet as we move forward while also executing opportunistically on our share repurchase program. As always, we remain focused on executing our strategy, which has proven successful throughout various economic cycles, to deliver superior returns for shareholders. Finally, I'd like to take a moment to thank our incredible ProPetro team. It's their continued dedication and hard work that helps us achieve consistently solid results quarter over quarter. Now I'll turn the call over to David to discuss our second quarter financial results. David?

David Schorlemer, CFO

Thanks, Sam, and good morning, everyone. We have some great news to discuss today regarding our financial performance and progress in our strategic initiatives. While executing the share repurchases, we also paid down $15 million in debt and continued to maintain strong liquidity. Since announcing the share repurchase program, ProPetro's share price has increased nearly 50% as of July 31. Coupled with our strategy execution, we've been working hard to enhance transparency. And thanks in part to our strong investor engagement program, we believe our story is beginning to resonate with the financial community. Increasingly, investors and analysts are telling us that they recognize ProPetro's compelling value and potential. This is evidenced by our leading relative share price performance over the last three months. Moving on to our second quarter financial results. We generated $435 million of revenue, a 2.8% increase over the first quarter of this year. Notably, we experienced nearly twice the amount of weather days during the quarter relative to last year, due to severe lightning in the Permian Basin, and we also idled one fleet for over a month due to inadequate pricing. These impacts resulted in lost revenue of approximately $15 million to $20 million, with the most significant impacts during May and June. Adjusted EBITDA decreased 5% sequentially to $113 million, largely due to unabsorbed costs related to the increased weather days and the idled fleet and our decision to retain the crew for continuity going forward. In spite of those impacts in the quarter, our effective frac fleet utilization of 15.9 fleets was on the high end of our prior guidance of 15 to 16 fleets. Consistent with our disciplined asset deployment, or margin-over-market share strategy, we will not run our equipment at sub-economic levels. Therefore, our second half 2023 guidance for frac fleet utilization is slightly down, to 14 to 15 fleets. As we've previously mentioned and in line with our fleet transition and replacement strategy that does not expand net capacity in the market, we retired an additional 30,000 hydraulic horsepower of Tier 2 conventional diesel frac equipment in the second quarter. So far this year, we have retired 100,000 horsepower of Tier 2 equipment, with more retirements expected in the coming quarters. Moving on, the cost of services, excluding depreciation and amortization, for the second quarter of '23 was $298 million, versus $280 million in the first quarter, with the increase primarily driven by a higher level of activity across our service lines. Second quarter general and administrative expense of $29 million was flat as compared to the prior quarter. G&A expense excluding management adjustments was $25 million, or 5.7% of revenue. Management adjustments include $4 million of nonrecurring and noncash items, including stock-based compensation and other items. Depreciation and amortization was $53 million in the second quarter, and we continue to expect D&A to be in this range going forward. The company achieved net income of $39 million, or $0.34 per diluted share, compared to net income of $29 million, or $0.25 per diluted share in the prior quarter. This is the highest quarterly net income reported by the company since the first quarter of 2019 and our fourth consecutive quarter of increasingly positive net income. During the quarter, we incurred $115 million of capital expenditures. Actual cash used in investing activities, as shown on the statement of cash flows, for capital expenditures net of proceeds, in the second quarter was $108 million, with free cash flow of $6 million. This figure differs from our incurred CapEx number due to differences in timing of equipment receipts and cash disbursements. We are reaffirming our previously provided CapEx range for 2023, which we expect to be between $250 million and $300 million, with a bias toward the upper end of the range due to our Tier 4 DGB and FORCE electric fleet deployments this year. Additionally, as quarterly CapEx decreases in the second half of the year, we expect this to contribute to accelerating free cash flow over the coming quarters, to be utilized for further debt reduction, opportunistic share repurchases, and other strategic opportunities. Moving on to our capital structure. Our balance sheet and liquidity position remain strong to support execution of our strategy. As of June 30, 2023, total cash was $62 million and our borrowings under the ABL credit facility were $60 million. Total liquidity at the end of the second quarter of '23 was $170 million, including cash and $108 million of available capacity under the ABL. As mentioned, since the close of the second quarter we paid down our credit facility by $15 million. And as of July 31, our cash balance was $63 million, and we had $45 million of borrowings under our ABL, with $175 million of total liquidity. As I noted during our first quarter call, ProPetro's balance sheet is strong, and we remain committed to disciplined capital deployment for the long term. This strength and capital discipline enabled us to develop and install certain commercial architecture that will benefit the company for years to come; namely, our capital-light, long-term lease agreement for our FORCE electric-powered frac fleets. This lease agreement reduces our capital requirements and improves our operating cost profile while enabling ProPetro to accelerate the transformation of our fleet to emissions-friendly assets that are in high demand in the market. Lastly, and this is incredibly important to understand about ProPetro, over the last 18 months and through the end of this year we will have invested nearly $1 billion in recapitalizing our fleet and bringing state-of-the-art technologies and completion services to ProPetro. By the end of this year, we will have transformed our fleet to become the youngest and one of the most valued fleets in the industry. Attend a few industry or investor conferences and you'll hear our customers talk about the ProPetro difference. It's real and we have the accolades to prove it. This differentiation in strategy has delivered a tremendous value proposition for our customers and an opportunity for our shareholders. And the indicators of our successful strategy are already clearly visible: continued earnings strength, a transformed fleet of highly desirable assets and services, positive free cash flow, debt reduction, share repurchases, share price outperformance, and strengthening liquidity. With this significant investment as a foundation, essentially a down payment on our future success, we expect to yield continued strong financial returns for many years to come. Let me now turn the call back to Sam for some closing remarks.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Thank you, David. Before we turn it over to Q&A, I'd like to touch again on ProPetro's differentiated offering. We are proud to offer industry-leading service quality and service equipment with next-generation capabilities that will be two-thirds of our fleet in early 2024 and a robust customer portfolio that comes with operational density in the Permian Basin. While we continue to face market pressures in some areas, our best-in-class commercial architecture and superior execution in the field are distinct competitive advantages for ProPetro. As demonstrated, our sophisticated pricing model supports our asset deployment decisions, and we will remain disciplined by not sacrificing our fleet at the expense of pricing concessions. Furthermore, we are not going to stress our operating system with fleets operating at sub-economic levels. Instead, we're focused on navigating the near term in a disciplined manner with long-term value in focus. As a result, we believe this will set us up for outsized upside in 2024 and beyond. Here at ProPetro, we are relentlessly focused on the execution of our strategy, as I have stated earlier, and we have no plans of letting up. We recognize the fundamental change needed in the servicing space to focus on industrialization. We also expect that the continued optimization of our operations and industrialization of our business will unlock continued free cash flow growth. In addition, we will continue to transition our fleet in a capital-light manner and pursue opportunistic strategic transactions that accelerate value for our shareholders while also not expanding capacity in the marketplace. We are confident that we can achieve all of this while generating enhanced shareholder returns through our capital discipline and strategic approach. Finally, I'd like to once again thank the entire ProPetro team for their outstanding and safe performance this quarter and enabling our management team to move forward confidently with this strategy. With that, I'd like to now open the line up for questions. Operator?

Operator, Operator

The first question we have is from Luke Lemoine of Piper Sandler.

Luke Lemoine, Analyst

Sam, you comment on the sum but stacking of fleet to maintain pricing, and your overall 2Q rev per fleet was pretty flat. Do you think with your discipline and your frac calendar, operational performance in the second half can be pretty close to the first half as far as EBITDA per fleet?

Sam Sledge, CEO

Luke, I think it can be close. There are a few moving parts; I think we mentioned some of those in our prepared remarks here recently, where we might be slightly adjusting pricing, but picking up margin on other parts of the location, wireline sand, logistics, and all those other things. So I think we're looking here in the next couple of months to see how that settles out. But look, we're pretty confident that fleet activity should remain in that 14 to 15 range. If anything comes at us to the downside, we think we're well positioned to handle that. That said, I mean, this is, and you know our story well, this is very much a story of a very focused, dedicated approach. There's almost zero spot market exposure here as it pertains to the customers and the programs that we're currently working with. So yes, we're confident that activity holds up well. And we think as compared to Q2, we think there's a really great opportunity that profitability hangs in there as well on a per-fleet basis.

Luke Lemoine, Analyst

Okay. And just on your fleet retirements, another 30,000 this quarter, I believe; 100,000 year-to-date. So basically two fleets. Is it fair to assume this picks up more as the e-fleets are deployed later this year? Or how should we think about that?

Sam Sledge, CEO

David might want to make an additional comment to this, but I think it's just pretty steady throughout the year. A lot of that is in tandem already with the dual-fuel conversions we've been doing, basically bringing new equipment into the system and retiring old equipment as that transition happens. So I think it's a fairly linear retirement process for us if you look over the span of 2023.

David Schorlemer, CFO

Yes, I would agree.

Operator, Operator

The next question is from Arun Jayaram of JPMorgan.

Arun Jayaram, Analyst

Sam, I was wondering if you could describe what you're seeing in terms of the bifurcated market for equipment between dual-fuel and diesel, and are you seeing premiums for the dual-fuel reflect the gas-to-diesel arbitrage? Or are you seeing even more of a premium being placed on those dual-fuel fleets?

Sam Sledge, CEO

That's a great question, Arun. This situation is a significant part of our narrative at ProPetro, particularly concerning large Permian frac players who may be most positively impacted by these dynamics. However, this bifurcation is also important for the entire sector. Based on some points you raised regarding equipment types and market exposure, we're observing things unfold almost exactly as we anticipated. During Q2, crude pricing weakened at times, leading some of our customers to discuss different pricing arrangements with us. Almost none of that occurred within our dual-fuel fleet, which confirms the value of our investments and the transition we made; that equipment is uniquely positioned competitively. We believe this will continue to hold true in the future for dual-fuel and likely even more for electric options among various players. This provides insight into what's happening with our differentiated equipment offerings. Additionally, we noticed distinctions between the spot market and dedicated market this quarter. Dedicated customer discussions felt entirely different compared to those with spot market clients. I wouldn’t classify the fleet we parked as a spot fleet. We were transitioning back to a previously dedicated customer who sought proposals for their work and received offers that were incredibly appealing from some of our smaller competitors. We were content to allow them to pursue that while we retained our assets and workforce to seek better returns down the line. It was a straightforward decision for us, as I noted in our prepared comments.

Arun Jayaram, Analyst

That's helpful. And Sam, how do those views on the dual-fuel or this bifurcation influence your future CapEx plan that David mentioned of almost $1 billion of CapEx in terms of fleet renewal thus far or, I guess, at the end of the program? I think you have seven Tier 4 DGB fleets now. Do you expect to expand that number over time? And do you have any preliminary thoughts on 2024 CapEx?

Sam Sledge, CEO

The three different offerings we plan to have will range from electric at the top, with four electric fleets by Q1 next year, followed by seven dual-fuel fleets, and around five or six diesel fleets. We believe that having all three options makes us the most competitive. As exploration and production consolidation progresses, and as some of our active E&P customers plan further ahead, we anticipate increased demand for dual-fuel and electric options. Therefore, when considering CapEx allocation, we aim to focus every dollar towards dual-fuel and electric offerings. While diesel won't disappear entirely, we are less inclined to rebuild or refurbish diesel-only equipment than we were a few years ago. Moving forward, you can expect us to focus more on dual-fuel and electric options, and we'll assess the best mix as time goes on. We believe we are well positioned for next year, with more than two-thirds of our fleet being dual-fuel and electric. We will strongly emphasize that and reevaluate as we start planning the budget for 2024.

David Schorlemer, CFO

This is David. Just to give you a little color, again, we're not ready to give you 2024 guidance, but I think as you saw in 2023 CapEx stepping down, we would expect another step down in 2024 as we begin to deploy and have most of our fleet configured around our newer offerings. So certainly some progression there favorable on the CapEx side next year.

Operator, Operator

The next question we have is from Scott Gruber of Citigroup.

Scott Gruber, Analyst

I wanted to stay on the DGB question. I'm just curious, how is the availability for gas in the Permian to really maximize the diesel displacement on the DGB fleets? Is it pretty good today? Or are there shortages out in the marketplace? And I'm curious how often you're able to take advantage of field gas versus CNG?

Sam Sledge, CEO

Thanks for the question, Scott. It makes me think about a couple of different things. I think one of which is just the regional gas availability. We have a couple of customers that are trying to use as much in-field or field gas as they can. Maybe at times, we have to pair that with a little bit of CNG to keep up with the high displacement rates that we're seeing. But I think what leads the way sometimes is regionally, is our customer out in the Delaware in a more stranded location or are they in the Midland Basin where CNG is very readily available. There's kind of some puts and takes there. Second to that, I think, is just how much gas we're displacing, which we think we're doing as good, or maybe better, than any of our peers in that realm. And having a gas partner, whether that be the in-field transportation or trucking of CNG, that can keep up with that displacement, and this is going to be vital as we move into the electric space as well. So part of it is regionally are we close to good gas sources. The other part of it, to me, is do we have all the right services and partners to support a high-performing operation that consumes a lot of gas. And look, I think we're doing pretty good there. I think our customers are pleased with our displacement. But we're not done. We want to continue to push the envelope to maximize the value of these assets.

Scott Gruber, Analyst

Got it. That's good color. And then one on just kind of the near-term prospects. You mentioned you're at 14 fleets today, but could potentially see 14 to 15 in the second half of the year. So what's the prospects today to put another fleet back to work before the end of the year?

Sam Sledge, CEO

I think it depends. I think we're just in an interesting time right now where we're coming out of a time period where many of the E&Ps in the Permian were kind of pulling back because you saw crude in the $60s and they were trying to make economic decisions there. And now we see crude kind of back in the low $80s and I think a pretty good strong macro outlook for crude in the back half of the year, at least we believe that. So I think we're kind of waiting to see how that pairs with customer decisions and just remaining as disciplined as possible around only putting assets in the field at prices that make sense to us. So I think if you see $80-plus crude persist through the end of the year, I think the likelihood of putting the 15th back in the system is pretty good. But we'll see if that's what the market gives us.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is from Kurt Hallead of Benchmark.

Kurt Hallead, Analyst

I was curious about the four e-fleets that are expected to arrive in the second half of 2023 and the first half of next year. Recent discussions with other major players deploying e-fleets have suggested they are seeing contract terms that can extend up to three years. I'm interested in knowing what discussions you're having and what the term structure looks like in that regard.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Good question. I'd just like to remind everybody that we do have our first e-fleet contracted on a long-term agreement, very similar to a time frame that you just mentioned. We're really excited about that. It's with a premier operator that has a lot of experience in the e-fleet space. So we're excited to get that fleet on the ground here just really in the next few weeks. We've got great demand for #2, #3, and #4. We have various, I would say, very developed conversations, contract negotiations going on with those fleets. That said, we are from an economic standpoint incentivized to put those fleets to work right when we get them. The cost of ownership is lower. The assets are more purpose-fit for the jobs we're doing today. So we are motivated to get that equipment in the field. But look, we're super confident that all four of these fleets are going to be contracted and they're going to be on long-term agreements that have some type of minimums or take-or-pay mechanisms in them. And just as a leader in this space, I'm personally really excited about that transition into more committed work with more purpose-fit assets. And I think over the next five years or so, you're going to see more equipment, more agreements like this across the space, and we're proud to be a heavy participant in that.

Kurt Hallead, Analyst

Okay. That's fair. And you guys referenced it in your commentary here, that you had a $15 million to $20 million impact in the second quarter with the combination of some weather and idling of frac crew. Then you talk about some modest decline in the second half of '23 relative to the first half in terms of your EBITDA progression. So can you help us take the guesswork out of this? And what kind of magnitude of decline in EBITDA are you looking for in the second half?

David Schorlemer, CFO

I think, as Sam mentioned on one of the prior questions, we're not looking at significant declines from here. We feel like 14 to 15 is about what it looks like, going forward. So July revenues look to be up just a little bit from June, and we're not expecting any kind of material changes from that activity level. I think there are opportunities, but we feel good with the remainder of the year. And keep in mind, I mean, we're not running this company for the next quarter; we're running it for the next several years. And making the investments, having the pricing discipline and the asset deployment strategy and also doing things like bringing industrial equipment into our mix like the e-fleets is really for the long term. And I think that's what we'd like to focus on.

Kurt Hallead, Analyst

Okay. Just maybe one more for Sam. Just in the context of you mentioned diesel still being part of your fleet, moving forward. I'm just kind of curious, what's the economic benefit or economic incentive to have diesel still be part of your asset mix?

Sam Sledge, CEO

The economic incentive for us and our customers lies in the ability to displace diesel with more natural gas, which could yield benefits ranging from $5 million to $20 million annually, depending on the customer and gas prices. This could translate to a price decrease of about 10% to 20%. We're particularly excited about electric options because they rely entirely on gas, leading to substantial savings when implemented correctly. However, transitioning from diesel involves E&P companies needing to build trust in the projected savings and manage aspects like gas logistics and purchasing. This transition will likely continue, with dual-fuel becoming a standard in Permian frac operations. The infrastructure we have in the Permian Basin is among the best for efficiently moving these resources. As E&Ps recognize the potential opportunities, we expect an increase in dual-fuel utilization. Additionally, we appreciate the flexibility of dual-fuel equipment, as it can operate on 100% diesel when necessary, even though it's more expensive. In a tight market, it might make sense to use dual-fuel assets while still burning 100% diesel if prices rise significantly.

David Schorlemer, CFO

And Kurt, this is David. We're running different scenarios on fleet configuration. So if the market is demanding a higher proportion of electric and other types of assets, we have the ability to pivot, particularly using the commercial architecture that we talked about in our comments to facilitate that. But in any way, we're going to be disciplined about how we do that.

Operator, Operator

The next question we have is from Derek Podhaizer of Barclays.

Derek Podhaizer, Analyst

So you talked about that customer that idled the fleet with you guys. They got pricing on the spot market that was too good to be true. Just wanted to ask, do you believe this will weigh on the dedicated pricing market as you move forward into RFP season, just as we start thinking about 2024 pricing and profitability? Or do you consider what happened to be more of a one-off?

Sam Sledge, CEO

I think it could. I think we're naive to think, Derek, that it won't weigh, that it couldn't weigh on RFP for 2024. I think it remains to be seen if it will. So I hold out hope and confidence that it won't, and if it does, it will be very minimal. That said, I think it's important to just remind anybody that's paying attention to OFS or the frac sector, more specifically, is that there's more pricing discipline in the system than we've seen in maybe a couple of decades; definitely, in my 12-year career. I've never seen this much price discipline. So in a volatile market that we play in that is full of entrepreneurs, you're always going to have some maybe less logical things happen in certain parts of the cycle. I don't think that ever goes away totally. I think what we've seen over the last couple of years is that the amount of that type of, what we'll call, irrational behavior is less than it's ever been, which makes us confident in the medium- and long-term future for ProPetro and for our sector, in general.

David Schorlemer, CFO

Well, Derek, the other thing, we're now sitting at over $80 a barrel of oil and with a $15 million draw on inventories. I think people are beginning to see that supply constraint play into the market and also into crude prices. So I think as we move into the second half of the year, that could create a bit more sensitivity to securing service supply for next year than maybe has persisted over the last, call it, four to six months, and we might be looking at something more akin to the first quarter of this year in terms of the pricing dynamics and market dynamics. And I think that's what you're hearing from our larger peers, other oil service companies. And I think that would be favorable for us as we get into the second half of the year and pricing for next year.

Derek Podhaizer, Analyst

Great, I appreciate that information. I wanted to ask about your sand and logistics services. Can you remind us about what you're doing in this area? I don't recall your company having assets related to this. Are you partnering with other companies in this sector? I would like more details on your logistics offerings and how you see them developing as we head into next year.

Sam Sledge, CEO

I'll just give you kind of an anecdotal example of how that looks. I mean, I'd hate for you to extrapolate this across our whole fleet. But in these times where we might be kind of negotiating a different pricing model with one of our customers, and say that this customer was in-housing, brokering themselves sand and logistics and maybe chemical and maybe wireline for themselves or directly, and they wanted to negotiate with us about a tweak on our hourly pricing. Well, we then can go back to, say, something like our sand contracts and try and find out what that customer, who really has the better sand contract and the better pricing in the market and make sure that we're leveraging the best contract. And we found in a couple of instances here recently that we do have better contractual terms or pricing than some of our customers do. So we then will offer a trade, maybe a tweak to the hourly pricing to leverage a contract and the volume that we already have commitments to on the sand side. So it's not that we're mining or trucking with our own assets. It's that we're using partnerships in our supply chain to make sure that we're pushing forward the best value to our customer that also generates the best return for us. So just kind of a little bit of blocking and tackling around the supply chain to ensure that we protect our margin and our return.

Derek Podhaizer, Analyst

Got it. Okay. Great. And then just one more if I could squeeze it in. I know you're not ready to give us an outlook for 2024 CapEx. But maybe if we just think about maintenance CapEx, are you expecting any sort of step-change? I mean, I know you don't capitalize the fluid ends anymore, but now that you're going to be having four e-fleets and seven Tier 4 DGBs I would suspect that maintenance CapEx should be coming down versus your legacy Tier 2 diesel assets. So any color on that, where you guys are seeing that shake out so far?

David Schorlemer, CFO

I think that we're not ready to give you '24, but as I mentioned earlier, there's going to be a continued progression, we believe, because we now have really recapitalized the majority of our fleet and gone to an electric-focused model. So I think certainly some progression is going to be very favorable in '24 and on.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Derek, I'll just add on to that. This is Sam. I think we do expect it to be down on a per-fleet basis. I don't think, as David alluded to, we're ready to tell you by how much. The big part of that story is electric. Another part of that story is just the internal optimization efforts that we've been pursuing in a very focused, intentional manner for, I'd say, the last year. And I'd be remiss to get off the call without recognizing the efforts of our team in that arena. We've been very, very intentional for about a year now, organizing cross-functional teams inside of our business, to make sure that we are maximizing every asset that we're responsible for, especially on the maintenance side of things. And we've undergone a lot of change and reassessed a lot of processes internally. And we're really, really proud of the work our team has done in that arena and some of the progress we've seen. That said, some of the results that you see that come from that don't necessarily show up day one. So my hope and my confidence is that in 2024, we're talking a little bit more about the fruits of some of that labor, that really derive from taking a company that was built on growth and a growth-oriented mindset, which is kind of how we built the foundation in ProPetro, and transitioning our company and our team into a mindset of optimization and industrialization. We are right in the middle of that transition right now, and we think it's going to bear some fruit going into next year.

Operator, Operator

The next question we have is from Stephen Gengaro of Stifel.

Stephen Gengaro, Analyst

Sam, one of the things that we heard from some others was some optimism of this sort of lull in U.S. activity recovering perhaps even as soon as the fourth quarter. But just curious on your end and conversations if you're hearing anecdotes that support that and what your thoughts are around that.

Sam Sledge, CEO

We hope that happens as we move into the fourth quarter, but we are not relying on it. We've mentioned several times in our remarks and during the Q&A that we have a strong foundation to generate value in the future. We operate in a volatile industry, and our customers along with other oilfield services are taking steps to reduce this volatility. However, we remain confident. There have been many discussions, including our own, regarding the potential bottom of the rig count and when it might recover, which may relate to your question. If rigs are coming online soon, it’s difficult to say if they will enhance opportunities in the frac sector this quarter. We’re already past midyear, and there’s usually a two- to three-month lag before newly deployed rigs start generating additional completions work. Is it possible that more rigs will enter the system soon and create a supportive momentum for the frac space in Q4? Yes, that’s a possibility. But again, we’re not depending on that at all.

Stephen Gengaro, Analyst

Got it. And then, the follow-up, you mentioned, I think in response to a question about the second half of the year, maybe some of the things that offset activity and/or slightly lower prices. And you mentioned sand. And I was curious, because I've thought that frac sand prices on the spot basis were down a bit. So I was just kind of thinking through that. Am I thinking about that wrong? Because I would think you'd lose a little from lower frac sand prices in the second half? And is there any way to quantify that impact?

Sam Sledge, CEO

It's a bit nuanced, Stephen. Ultimately, it hinges on who has a better scale and market position to buy the sand. In response to Derek's earlier question about using sand to maintain a certain margin, our operational density and scale in this basin position us as significant purchasers of sand compared to other exploration and production companies and service providers in the Permian. When sand market dynamics shift, we leverage our scale and purchasing power to capitalize on opportunities. For us, it's less about directly engaging in the sand business and mining our own sand. Instead, it's more about our purchasing power and the margin we can add on such a product while delivering it to our customers. That's what it really boils down to for us.

Operator, Operator

Our next question is from Don Crist of Johnson Rice.

Donald Crist, Analyst

I just wanted to ask about share repurchases versus debt repayment. Obviously, you came out of the gate once the plan was put in place and bought back a lot of shares at a lower price. But now since the stock has rebounded, how do you balance paying off debt versus buying back shares as we go forward?

Sam Sledge, CEO

Great question, Don. That's top of mind for us from a capital allocation standpoint, moving forward. One of our chief responsibilities as leaders at ProPetro is to make sure that we're being as effective as possible at allocating capital across all the opportunities that we have. Really, everything is on the table. I think we like to run a business that is low to no debt. So that definitely plays in the mix. Look, we've had great success with our share repurchase program and are very pleased to have gotten in the market when our equity value was very depressed. We also have capital to allocate to finish off this fleet transition and to make sure we're building the most long-term competitive business that we possibly can. So all of those things are competing for capital today. That said, I think we mentioned our stock repurchase program in an opportunistic sense a couple of times here on the call, and I think that's how we're looking at it. So we'll continue to be opportunistic there. We're happy to have the authorization and the flexibility to come in and out of the market as we please. And I'd just say, stay tuned.

David Schorlemer, CFO

Don, this is David. Just to add a little bit to that, we've seen our stock move up from very depressed levels, a significant discount from a market valuation perspective. We're still in a discounted situation relative to some peers, and we don't believe that we're near our intrinsic value either. So I think you've seen some others talk about that on their calls. We believe the same thing. We don't believe that the market valuation is appropriate for the business that we've built, and I think that's something that informs our strategy going forward on that as well.

Operator, Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Sam Sledge, CEO, for any closing remarks.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Thanks, Irene. Before we close it out, I'd like to give Adam Munoz, our President and Chief Operating Officer, to talk a little bit more here briefly about our FORCE e-fleet rollout and what we're excited about there.

Adam Munoz, President and COO

Thanks, Sam. Happy to provide a little more color there. Our team has been hard at work getting everything ready to deploy for our first two FORCE units. As you heard earlier in the call, we expect to deploy our first fleet here in August and the second expected to deploy in early fourth quarter. Moreover, we expect two additional FORCE electric fleets to be deployed in the first half of 2024. These fleets are best-in-class. To kind of give a brief description of the FORCE pumping units, they're 6,000-horsepower trailers, driven by two independent, fully redundant 3,000-horsepower pumps, and which are powered by two independent and fully redundant 3,500-horsepower electric motors, enabling us to reduce the pump footprint on location near the wellhead by 50%. Additionally, we will be deploying these units as a hybrid fleet alongside our Tier 4 DGB dual-fuel units that are already providing a very high diesel displacement, as we also mentioned. And lastly, the units will be powered by a natural gas turbine generator, essentially providing 100% diesel displacement for our customer, which helps with emissions reduction and significant cost savings from natural gas over diesel.

Sam Sledge, CEO

Thanks, Adam. Like I said multiple times in the call, we're super excited to get the FORCE fleets out in the field and are excited to share more detail on that in quarters to come. Before closing out the call, I'd like to remind everyone how proud we are here at ProPetro to be a vital part of the American energy system. We're confident that oil and gas will remain the most important part of the overall energy mix, and we're confident that both our company and the Permian Basin community will continue to provide our country and the world with the cleanest, most affordable, reliable energy. Thanks again for joining us today, and we hope to speak with you again soon. Have a great day.

Operator, Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.