Earnings Call Transcript

QCR HOLDINGS INC (QCRH)

Earnings Call Transcript 2022-06-30 For: 2022-06-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - QCRH Q2 2022

Operator, Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the QCR Holdings, Inc. Earnings Conference Call for the Second Quarter of 2022. Yesterday, after market close, the company distributed its second quarter earnings press release. If there is anyone on the call who has not received a copy, you may access it on the company's website at www.qcrh.com. With us today from management are Larry Helling, CEO; and Todd Gipple, President, COO and CFO. Management will provide a brief summary of the financial results, and then we'll open up the call to questions from analysts. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that some of the information management will be providing today falls under the guidelines of forward-looking statements as defined by the Securities and Exchange Commission. As part of these guidelines, any statements made during this call concerning the company's hopes, beliefs, expectations and predictions of the future are forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Additional information on these factors is included in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's website. Additionally, management may refer to non-GAAP measures, which are intended to supplement, but not substitute for the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The press release available on the website contains the financial and other quantitative information to be discussed today, as well as the reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and will be available for replay through August 3, 2022, starting this afternoon approximately one hour after the completion of this call. It will also be accessible on the company's website. At this time, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Larry Helling at QCR Holdings. Please go ahead.

Larry Helling, CEO

Thank you, operator. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. I will start the call with a brief discussion regarding our second quarter performance. Todd will follow with additional details on our financial results for the quarter. We delivered another strong quarter of financial performance, and we completed the acquisition and integration of Guaranty Bank into SFC Bank. We're excited to continue to grow the Guaranty Bank brand in the vibrant Southwest Missouri region and are pleased that this team delivered solid loan growth during the second quarter given the additional work that is involved with combining of two banks. Overall, our strong results during the quarter were driven by exceptional loan growth, expanding net interest margin and carefully managed expenses. We increased our core earnings by $6 million for the first quarter, posting core earnings per share of $1.73 and generating an ROAA of 1.6%, after adjusting for nonrecurring items primarily related to the closing of the Guaranty Bank acquisition. Building on the momentum we generated in the first quarter, we delivered robust lending activity again in the second quarter with annualized loan growth of 14% after excluding the impact of the acquired portfolio and PPP activity. Our organic loan growth in the quarter was driven by strength in our traditional commercial lending, leasing and specialty finance business. We are capitalizing on the economic resilience of our markets and continue to gain market share across our charters. This is a testament to our relationship-based community banking model, one that emphasizes the importance of strong relationships and customized service with new and existing clients. Our loan pipelines remain healthy, and our near-term outlook for the loan growth remains positive. Therefore, we are reaffirming our targeted organic loan growth of between 10% and 12% for the full year. Our core deposits also grew during the quarter, matching our loan growth primarily due to the addition of Guaranty Bank's deposits. Guaranty Bank brings excess liquidity and a strong core deposit client base to our balance sheet, which will support our ability to continue to fund our expected loan growth. We expanded our net interest margin significantly again in the second quarter, which was up 23 basis points and up 17 basis points, excluding acquisition accretion and the impact of PPP fees. This expansion was driven by the impact of multiple rate hikes on our asset-sensitive balance sheet, as well as the addition of Guaranty Bank. We are very well positioned for the current rising rate environment, and expect to see meaningful continued NIM expansion in the third quarter. Todd will go into more detail in his remarks. Our asset quality remained strong. We did experience an increase in nonperforming assets during the quarter, primarily the result of the Guaranty Bank acquisition and two legacy lending relationships. We had minimal net charge-offs during the quarter, and we increased our reserves slightly to 1.59% of total loans and leases. We feel very comfortable with our reserve level despite the potential economic challenges and maintain a prudently cautious view on credit as reflected in our reserve coverage. We have a strong credit culture that focuses on high-quality loans, disciplined underwriting and diligent credit administration. Given the current heightened level of economic uncertainty, we are well prepared for any potential economic challenges that may occur. We have solid earnings, a strong capital position, excellent credit quality and a prudent level of reserves, which will enable us to continue to deliver disciplined growth and attractive returns for our shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to Todd to provide further information on our first quarter results.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Thank you, Larry. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. I'll start my comments with net interest income. Our reported net interest income for the quarter was $59.4 million, and excluding acquisition accretion of $1.7 million, it was $57.7 million, near the upper end of our guidance range of $56 million to $58 million. This outperformance was driven by robust organic loan growth combined with strong NIM expansion. We funded our solid loan and lease growth during the quarter with a combination of the excess liquidity we obtained from Guaranty Bank and overnight advances. Guaranty Bank provided strong core deposits in the acquisition and we continue to benefit from a favorable mix of deposits. As of the end of the second quarter, demand deposits, both noninterest and interest-bearing, represented over 90% of our total deposits and are an important factor in managing our cost of funds in this rapidly rising rate environment and allowing us to significantly expand margin. We did temporarily increase our utilization of overnight borrowings during the quarter as a better priced funding option. However, we plan to reduce our modest reliance on wholesale funding during the latter half of this year. Our reported NIM improved by 23 basis points for the quarter. After excluding acquisition accretion and the impact of PPP income, our NIM expanded by 17 basis points, significantly outperforming our guidance of a 9 to 11 basis point improvement. We were very pleased with our NIM performance for the quarter as we were more successful than anticipated in managing deposit betas, and our balance sheet strategies related to the Guaranty Bank acquisition proved to be more successful than expected. As interest rates continue to rise, our asset-sensitive balance sheet will lead to significant further NIM expansion. For the past three years, we have intentionally grown our floating rate loan portfolio, which has positioned us well for rising rates. This, combined with the success we've had in growing core deposits has reduced our reliance on deposits tied to an index and higher-cost wholesale funds. Looking ahead, as we benefit from a full quarter of the June rate hike and factoring in today's expected rate hike, we project further adjusted NIM expansion of 9 to 11 basis points in the third quarter. Now turning to our noninterest income, which was $22.8 million for the quarter, up $7.2 million from the prior quarter. The increase was primarily due to higher capital markets revenue from swap fees, as well as the additional noninterest income from Guaranty Bank. Capital markets revenue totaled $13 million for the quarter, which was within our guidance range and more than double the amount booked in the first quarter. Given our solid pipeline of transactions, while recognizing timing continues to be impacted by project delays caused by ongoing supply chain disruptions and inflationary pressures, we continue to expect the source of fee income to be in a range of $13 million to $15 million per quarter for the remainder of 2022. Excluding swap fees and non-core items, noninterest income for the second quarter totaled $9.3 million, which was within our guidance range provided on last quarter's call. Now turning to our expenses. Noninterest expense for the second quarter totaled $54.2 million, which included acquisition and post-acquisition-related expenses of $6.8 million, which was significantly less than originally modeled. After adjusting for these nonrecurring items, noninterest expenses were $47.5 million and within our guidance range of $46 million to $48 million. Our noninterest expense run rate remains well controlled. However we, like the rest of the industry, are experiencing cost pressures in a number of areas. As a result, we anticipate that our level of core noninterest expense will be in the range of $47 million to $49 million in the third quarter. In addition, we do not anticipate that the full cost savings from the Guaranty Bank acquisition will be recognized until 2023. Now turning to asset quality. As Larry mentioned, our increase in nonperforming assets was a combination of the addition of Guaranty Bank and two legacy credit relationships. The Guaranty Bank NPAs at closing were $3 million or 25% lower than at the initial acquisition announcement date, as Guaranty Bank reached positive resolutions on several NPAs and prior to closing the transaction. Our NPAs are quite manageable and represent only 33 basis points of total assets. We recorded an $11.2 million provision for credit losses in the second quarter due solely to the CECL Day 2 provision of $12.4 million to establish the initial credit loss allowances for the acquired non-PCD loan portfolio and off-balance sheet exposure as a result of the Guaranty Bank acquisition. Our allowance for credit losses remains quite strong at 1.59% of total loans and leases and represents nearly four times our nonperforming assets. With respect to capital, our capital levels remain solid. The decline in our capital ratios this quarter was driven by several factors. Specifically, the decline in our TCE ratio due to the Guaranty Bank transaction was 72 basis points, which came in better than our initial modeling of 100 basis points when we announced the acquisition. Additionally, our share repurchase activity during the quarter had an impact of 46 basis points and the decline in our AOCI had an impact of 34 basis points, primarily due to a decrease in the value of our available-for-sale securities. Finally, our strong loan growth contributed to the remaining 18 basis point decline. Our reported net income partially offset these factors to arrive at a TCE ratio of 8.11% at quarter end. Our tangible book value was impacted by these same factors and was down $3.14 per share during the quarter. We had modeled initial tangible book value dilution of $2.04 from the Guaranty Bank acquisition and are pleased that it came in better than our estimate at $1.88 per share. The remainder of the reduction in TBV was due to the decline in our AOCI of $1.42 per share and our share repurchases of $0.72 per share during the quarter. These were partially offset by our reported net income to arrive at a tangible book value per share of $34.41 at the end of the second quarter. With respect to our share repurchase program, we purchased 602,500 shares at an average price of $54.80 per share in the second quarter, as we completed repurchases under our original 2020 authorized plan and began repurchases under the May 2022 authorized plan. Under the 2020 plan, we repurchased 794,000 shares in total at an average price of $50.60 per share. The 2022 share repurchase program authorized an approximate 1.5 million additional shares to be repurchased. And we repurchased 280,000 shares during the quarter and have approximately 1.2 million shares remaining on this program. We will continue to be opportunistic with our approach to future share repurchases based on market conditions and our capital levels. Finally, our effective tax rate for the quarter was 8.9%, lower than our expected range due to the impact of the acquisition and post-acquisition-related expenses and the Day 2 CECL provision. We expect the effective tax rate to normalize back to a range of 16% to 18% in the second half of the year. With that added context on our second quarter financial results, let's open up the call for your questions.

Operator, Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Daniel Tamayo of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Daniel Tamayo, Analyst

Good morning, guys.

Larry Helling, CEO

Good morning, Daniel.

Daniel Tamayo, Analyst

Let me start with the outlook on swap fees. You were at the lower end of the $13 million to $15 million range in the second quarter and have maintained that guidance moving forward. Should we interpret this to mean that $13 million is a reasonable baseline to work from, or do you see potential for growth beyond that $13 million in the second half of the year?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes. We have discussed the challenges in this business before, but we are confident that we can achieve results in the range of $13 million to $15 million over the next two quarters based on the current market conditions. You can choose a figure between those two. We are working to make our results more predictable and consistent. Although the economic headwinds present certain challenges, we remain confident in our guidance range.

Daniel Tamayo, Analyst

Okay. What are your deposit betas assumed in the guidance that you provided for 9 to 11 basis points in expansion in the third quarter? I'll let you answer that.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Sure. Thanks, Danny. So first off, the 9 to 11 basis point guidance assumes a 75 basis point increase today. So I just wanted to get that out of the way. That's our assumption in that guidance at 75%, not necessarily 100 basis points. Our beta for Q2 was very well controlled. We had an 18 basis point increase in non-maturity interest-bearing deposit costs on 150 basis points of market rate hikes. So the beta overall for Q2 was $12 million. Our beta assumption going into Q3 is a little higher than that. As you might guess, part of that success in beta is what we were able to accomplish with a lag. And our ability to continue to lag, like most of the industry is going to start to be hampered a little bit. So, our beta assumption would probably be closer to 20 or 25 for Q3.

Daniel Tamayo, Analyst

Okay. Regarding deposit growth expectations, you mentioned that you plan to fund loan growth with deposit growth moving forward. You also indicated that you aim to decrease your reliance on wholesale funding in the latter half of the year. What gives you the confidence that this will be achievable? We've heard from other management teams suggesting that deposit balances might remain stable or decrease, which could help maintain deposit costs at a manageable level. I would like to know your perspective on how you are handling this in your strategy.

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes. I'll start there maybe, Todd, and then let you fill in just a bit. One of the things that we've talked about historically, because of our correspondent banking business, is we have a large chunk of deposits in the Fed EBA account that's off balance sheet for some of our clients. And we'll start to move some of that back in our balance sheet in the next couple of quarters. And liquidity across all banks has come down, including our correspondent bank clients. But there's still a little less than $900 million that we get off balance sheet that we can move certainly meaningful parts on our balance sheet over the next couple of quarters.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Danny, so to tag on to Larry's overview there. Part of what gives us confidence is we've already done it here since quarter end. We've moved roughly $180 million to $200 million onto our balance sheet from the EBA program. And we're being a little more deliberate in the pace of doing that. Being more deliberate allows us to get better beta on those funds. And using tier rates, using the size of the tiers, we're able to bring those on a little more gradually at a little bit better beta. And that really, of course, helps us maintain margin while we're doing it. We can do it more quickly. It would be more expensive. It's one of the reasons we filled in the gaps with some overnight wholesale during the quarter. There was about a 20 basis point cost advantage to doing that, so we took advantage of it. But the main reason we have confidence in doing that in the last half of the year is we're already doing that. But make no doubt, deposits and liquidity is really starting to dry up in the system, and so it's going to be a challenge.

Daniel Tamayo, Analyst

All right. Got it. I appreciate all that color. That's all from me. Thanks.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Thanks, Danny.

Operator, Operator

The next question comes from Damon DelMonte of KBW. Please go ahead.

Damon DelMonte, Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. I hope you guys are doing well today.

Larry Helling, CEO

Good morning, Damon.

Damon DelMonte, Analyst

Good morning. So, first question on the loan growth this quarter. Could you just talk a little bit about what segments were driving that? Like how much of that was the Specialty Finance Group and kind of where the outstandings stand right now with the Specialty Finance Group?

Larry Helling, CEO

The growth was really strong across all of our main sectors. Our leasing company achieved record growth during this past quarter, which allowed clients to quickly acquire the necessary equipment. In our traditional commercial banking business, growth was around 7% to 8% this quarter—solid performance, but not as rapid as our overall growth. The specialty group, particularly in the long-term tax credit sector, experienced the fastest growth. When you combine these factors, we reached a 14% quarterly growth rate. We are guiding towards a slightly lower number for the full year as a precaution. While we have no evidence suggesting a recession at this time, we want to be careful, which is why our guidance reflects a more cautious outlook compared to the growth we saw in the first half of the year.

Damon DelMonte, Analyst

Got it. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. And then, Todd, with respect to the expense outlook and the kind of increased guide there for 47% to 49%. Is that a function of more time needed to realize the cost savings from the GFED deal? Or is that just operational inflationary pressures that are in the marketplace today?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Sure. Yes, great question, Damon. So really a bit of both. We are expecting to convert on to a single platform here in Southwest Missouri during October. So, as you would all guess, that means we're not going to see some of the cost savings until really in the first quarter of 2023. So we mentioned that in our prepared comments. So, a little bit of a lag in that, which we expected. And an announcement, we said, it would really be 2023 before those are fully realized. But the reason for the upper move on our guide for next quarter, a couple of things. So one, our actual was toward the higher end of the range we had, upper end being 48%, and we are at 47.5%. And then those other types of inflationary pressures that you asked about and that we talked a little bit about in our prepared comments, we're certainly seeing that, whether it's people cost which is important, of course, or other expenses. We just thought it was prudent to really nudge that guidance up just a slight bit reflecting where quarter two was and the pressure we're seeing. So, in terms of short term, Damon, the slight move up in that guide is really about inflation and pricing pressures, and the delay in the cost saves is a little more expected, and that's more 2023.

Damon DelMonte, Analyst

Got it. That's good information. Thank you. Lastly, regarding the credit side and the increase in the non-performing assets, what were the sizes of the two legacy QCRH credits that transitioned to non-performance status and which industries were they in?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes. Those were both kind of low seven-figure transactions each, totally unrelated different businesses. One was an investment property. And basically, our underlying collateral is really strong. So, we don't anticipate any real loss in the first one that we're talking about. Second one was a homebuilder, but related to the economic environment, because the homebuilder business continues to be strong. There were just some management issues. And people using funds for things that we didn't think were appropriate. And so, we're making good progress on both of those and really expect minimal loss on either one of those projects.

Damon DelMonte, Analyst

God it. Okay. That's great. That's all that I had. Thank you very much.

Larry Helling, CEO

Thanks, Damon.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Thanks, Damon.

Operator, Operator

The next question comes from Brian Martin of Janney Montgomery. Please go ahead.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys.

Larry Helling, CEO

Good morning, Brian.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Hey, I have a couple of questions. Todd, you mentioned something last quarter about margins, and I appreciate your guidance on that as well as your thoughts for the next quarter. As we look at the latter half of the year and into next year, I'm curious about what happens if we experience additional rate increases, based on what the curve suggests. How do you view the outlook for the upcoming year, and do you expect to see some stabilization as the betas rise? I understand this is more about your expectations rather than specific guidance, but I'm trying to grasp when you might anticipate the margins starting to stabilize if we do see these rate hikes initiated from today.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Sure, Brian. I'm happy to speculate. My crystal ball is no more clearer than yours or anyone else's, but I'll do my best based on what Larry and I and most of our team think. I believe it is real that we're all having a lot of success with low deposit betas right now. We're able to lag. The question is going to be how much of that is permanent and how much of that is just pure lag and it's going to catch up. So for Q3, we feel very comfortable about pretty significant continued expansion in that 9 to 11 basis points range. At some point, those deposit betas are going to creep up and they're going to get harder. And with liquidity leaving the market, it's going to be incumbent on banks to start catching up on market rates to fund. So there's going to be pressure late. I don't know when the tipping point might be. I still think there's a lot of runway there, and we feel very bullish about margin. Maybe my punch line would be our net interest margin is the highest in our peer group than it was before rates started going up, and it took us a long time to get there. We were well-positioned for rates up. We're starting to take advantage of that. We want to continue to have the highest net interest margin in our peer group. I think we will. But when we get into next year, there's going to be some real challenges in terms of funding costs and just what the Fed might have to do in terms of additional increases. So I know that's not a real solid answer. I'll just tell you directionally, we feel very good about the guidance we gave for Q3. I feel like there's still a fair amount of continued margin expansion to happen. But depending on a whole host of factors, at some point could be in 2023 that flattens out and plateaus and we have flattened margin.

Brian Martin, Analyst

I appreciate that. It's a challenging question, Todd. It seems the next two to three quarters still look promising in terms of margins, and we will evaluate the situation as we progress. Thank you for addressing it. Additionally, on the fee income side, you mentioned that the non-capital markets revenue was just over $9 million this quarter. Do you think this is a reasonable baseline? I understand there are uncertainties regarding the integration of GFED and the mortgage outlook, among other factors. Is this a solid figure to use as we head into Q3?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Sure, Brian. I'm glad you asked about that. We don't often talk about the other sources of noninterest income outside of capital markets. So that $9 million feels like where we settled in post-merger, post acquisition. I think that's a good place for us to start in terms of Q3 expectations. Certainly, wealth management was down and was down somewhat sharply. It was down around 12.9% linked quarter. AUM was impacted by that, and I don't think anyone's surprised that happened, one, and that, that might continue to happen based on the market. So, we don't see really continued further drag on wealth management. Mortgage has kind of flattened out. The feedback, Larry and I have gotten recently is maybe this is kind of the new run rate for Q3 at least. So, long answer to your short question, I think $9-ish million is probably what we're looking for in Q3 and into Q4.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Got you. Okay.

Larry Helling, CEO

In our wealth management sector, we are consistently gaining new clients, which is not a concern for us. We have confidence in the long-term prospects of this business and believe you will too. However, when the market faces significant challenges, we need to reassess our approach before moving forward.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Got you. That's helpful. I know you are working on adding more teams, so we'll see how that develops. That could also play a part in this. On the capital markets side, I wanted to ask about your ability to navigate the economic challenges and your outlook on that. The guidance for the next two quarters is useful. As we consider the situation and how you are addressing these challenges, do you expect that this level could be sustainable over time? As we move into next year, do you think that as you resolve some of these challenges, the run rate could potentially increase? Or am I thinking about this the wrong way? Is that not really what is limiting the run rate as you aim to make it more predictable and consistent moving forward?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes. I'll start, Todd. For the next few quarters, we should focus on the 13 to 15 range. As some supply chain issues start to improve, there is potential for change. The yield curve also affects pricing in this area, making it a bit challenging to forecast. Over the long term, we believe we can achieve growth, but our main focus is on establishing a consistent business to ensure we get the right valuation for our stock.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Brian, I would just tag on to Larry's comments. We guided $13 million to $15 million. We'd like folks to start thinking about this business on a bit more longer-term basis, more annually. And so, it might be better for all of us to think about it that we're guiding to $26 million to $30 million for the last half of the year versus necessarily $13 million to $15 million each quarter. It is very choppy. Love the business. Got great underpinnings, as Larry has said. But it's difficult to think about it quarter-to-quarter with just a handful of deals can really move that number pretty dramatically. So, we're starting to try to talk more about it as an annual business and annual revenue source and get away from necessarily feeling really, really good or really, really bad based on a $2 million or $3 million swing, right.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Yes, I understand that's helpful. I believe that's the right approach. That was really my question. We're not trying to hold you to a specific number for next year, but rather to express the expectation that it should be trending higher each year. We'll see what the quarterly run rate becomes. It seems like you feel at this moment that it is sustainable and your expectation is to try to increase it. We'll see what unfolds.

Larry Helling, CEO

I think you're seeing it right, Brian.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Okay. Perfect. And last one, Todd, just a simple question about the accretion income in the quarter, which was obviously affected by the transaction. In the near term, is this an appropriate level, and does it decrease after that? Or is there anything unusual this quarter that would suggest it won't be sustainable at a higher level in the next couple of quarters?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Sure. No, I'm glad you asked, Brian, for a couple of reasons. One, here in the first quarter, it was a bit elevated from scheduled. So this quarter's number is a bit elevated due to some payoffs. Right now, our scheduled accretion per quarter, at least the next two, is more like $650,000 per quarter. So that's really the baseline. That's the scheduled accretion. As we all know, that number can move up with payoffs and paydowns, and it may. But just to be transparent, the base core accretion number is $650,000 a quarter.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Got you. So as you look ahead to next year, how should you approach modeling that?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Correct. And I would expect that probably not in October, but certainly in January, maybe October, we'll give you a little bit clearer picture on full year 2023.

Brian Martin, Analyst

Got you. Okay. Perfect. I appreciate you taken the questions and congrats on getting the deal closed and good results so far.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Thank you.

Larry Helling, CEO

Thanks, Brian.

Operator, Operator

The next question comes from Nathan Race of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Nathan Race, Analyst

Hi, guys. Good morning.

Larry Helling, CEO

Good morning, Nathan.

Nathan Race, Analyst

Question just around the outlook for the reserve going forward. It doesn't sound like you guys are expecting much, if any, loss content on those two legacy relationships that moved to nonaccrual in the quarter. So just assuming continued relatively benign charge-off outlook, how are you guys kind of thinking about providing for growth in the back half of this year with that kind of 10% to 12% guidance for the full year?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes, Nate, first of all, our reserve levels of 1.59% are among the highest in our peer group. We have been prudently conservative in reserving for a couple of large credits. You're correct that we don't anticipate any significant losses in those, so we don't believe we will need to use much of that reserve to address the larger transactions. We mentioned previously that we aim to grow into our reserve level, and with the recent trend in loan growth, we think we can maintain a reserve above 1.50% until the end of the year. This suggests minimal, if any, additional reserving in the coming quarters, based on our current outlook.

Nathan Race, Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then just kind of thinking about the uptick for buybacks going forward. Obviously, you guys were pretty active in the quarter, and it sounds like you've already repurchased some shares so far here in 3Q. I guess, I'm just curious kind of where buyback stack in terms of kind of your capital deployment priorities relative to kind of what you guys see in terms of future acquisitions as well. I imagine the focus is still at least in the next several quarters on successfully integrating Guaranty. But it seems like you guys are in a good position so far. So just curious kind of how you guys are weighing buyback opportunities with the valuation? Where it does stay versus kind of the outlook for acquisitions as well?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes, I'll start and then let Todd elaborate. Our strategy is to remain opportunistic. It’s somewhat complex because it relies on various economic factors, stock price movements, credit quality assessments, and reserve levels. At this time, there's nothing specific to discuss regarding mergers and acquisitions. Therefore, share buybacks are likely the best use of our capital right now. We will continue to monitor the situation, as the economic outlook is changing rapidly and it's uncertain which way it will go. This uncertainty may influence our approach in the upcoming quarters.

Nathan Race, Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. Please continue.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Nate, I just might tag on. One of the things that helped us in how we think about it, and to Larry's point, being opportunistic when the time is right, based on our earnings run rate and the high level of earnings we're driving and our low dividend payout intentionally, we can organically add 40 to 50 basis points of TCE each quarter. So that certainly is one of the factors that we're thinking about when we're making decisions around share repurchases. And just wanted to get that out on the table. That was really masked here this past quarter with dilution from the repurchases that we did, the dilution from closing GFED kind of lost in the wash is the fact that at current earnings levels, we can add 40 to 50 bps of TCE organically.

Nathan Race, Analyst

I understand that you are accumulating capital at a strong pace with the positive ROA outlook. That's great. I appreciate the earlier insights regarding the balance sheet dynamics and the adjusted margin outlook. My question is, considering that context, does the addition of GFED affect the interest rate sensitivity of the balance sheet? Todd, you mentioned last quarter that rate-sensitive assets were greater than rate-sensitive liabilities by about $1 billion. Is that still accurate today?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Yes. And very happy with the retail core deposit portfolio that G Bank had created. Love the deposit betas we're experiencing here in the Southwest Missouri market with Guaranty Bank. And so, it's helping us further insulate ourselves from some of those rate pressures and some of the beta factors. So, it was a very, very good time to bring on to our consolidated balance sheet, a deposit portfolio like Guaranty Bank has built. So it's helping. It certainly is.

Nathan Race, Analyst

Okay, great. Well, I appreciate guys, taking the questions and all the color.

Larry Helling, CEO

Thanks, Nate.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Thanks, Nate.

Operator, Operator

The next question comes from Jeff Rulis of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Thanks, good morning.

Larry Helling, CEO

Good morning, Jeff.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Maybe there will be follow-ups or just a different perspective on several of them. Regarding the nonaccruals you mentioned, the two legacy accounts and the Guaranty element that was included, is there any anticipated resolution for those? Specifically, concerning the GFED or the legacy accounts, do you foresee a quick resolution for any of that group that was transferred over?

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes, Jeff, I’d say the most important message we could share is that with the acquired portfolio, there have been no surprises so far. It's aligned with our expectations. We actually believe there is a chance for a fairly quick resolution on a few of the larger acquired credits. Therefore, we could see resolutions on some significant items in the next couple of quarters. Additionally, there’s potential for the two legacy relationships we mentioned; we could see either meaningful paydowns or resolutions on those as well within the same timeframe. Overall, we feel confident about our careful approach in assessing these and how we reserve for them to hopefully avoid any surprises for you or us later on.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Yes. Todd, do you have the number for the ACL to loans, which I believe is at 1.59%? Also, could you provide a figure for the coverage if we adjusted the credit marks?

Todd Gipple, CFO

I'm sorry, guys.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Todd, are you there?

Todd Gipple, CFO

I was on mute. I had muted. I had little noise here next door. So, we're at 182 basis points when adding back those marks, Jeff. So I appreciate you asking the question. And as Larry said, really good progress in the Guaranty Bank portfolio. You may have missed it in our opening comments, but an announcement date and modeling, Guaranty Bank NPAs were $12 million. They were down to $9 million at close. And as Larry said, we see pretty good traction there in terms of working on those $9 million that remain. So 182 basis points of coverage when you had in the marks.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

The loan growth remains very strong and while you mentioned it briefly, at the lower end of guidance, that would suggest reaching $10 million to $12 million. You have already booked $14 million, which is about a 6% increase in the second half. I wanted to know what would happen if you were to achieve the lower end of that guidance. What areas might show weakness or a slowdown? What is most at risk? I understand you tend to be conservative and usually outperform expectations, but I am curious about the circumstances that could lead to the lower growth scenario.

Larry Helling, CEO

Yes. I'd say, Jeff, two things come to mind immediately. First of all, if the supply chain issues get worse instead of better, because of stuff that's outside of the control of our clients, certainly, that's one issue. Secondly, if all of a sudden, we see real recessionary trends, which is not showing up in any of our quantitative factors or really in any of our clients' balance sheets and income statements yet. It's very muted. And so, if we get surprised and the economy slips quickly, that's probably why we're giving you a lower guidance to protect against those kind of things. Because in a recession, growing loans will be more challenging, because clients will be borrowing less money from their choice, not ours necessarily if we do go into that kind of recession. So, those are the things that could impact us. Will we outperform? It's certainly very possible. We're trying to be conservative on that one, so that we don't surprise you.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Got it. Thanks, Larry. And then just the last one on the fee income, again, going to go to the non-swap discussion. I understand the pressures on the wealth management front. But more specifically, the other noninterest income was down linked quarter, $300,000 or $400,000. Was there anything in that, that seemed a little light, but maybe that's just normal fluctuation?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Yes. There was a single unique item on a linked quarter basis. I’m checking for any specific details on that. Yes, our derivative gains and losses were up in both the fourth quarter and first quarter of 2022, but they decreased somewhat in the second quarter. We accounted for some of the ineffectiveness in gains and losses. The derivative activity impacted that other category, and it was that one line item that decreased in the first quarter.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Okay. Similar from Q2, you mean, from Q1 and Q4?

Todd Gipple, CFO

So in Q2, total other was roughly $1.2, down from $1.5 and the drop was derivative gains. So may make sense to be thinking more like the $1, $2 is more like the go forward run rate on that.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Okay. I understand. Did you waive any deposit fees or other guarantees in the quarter you just closed? Is there a chance those could come back? Once they close, will you return to the standard deposit service charge?

Todd Gipple, CFO

Yes. Jeff, interesting question. I'm glad you asked it. We actually didn't change anything in that regard at closing. Be looking at it once we get on one combined system, but have had a really good success with maintaining clients, even though we're running two different quarters here in Southwest Missouri. It's a little expensive, as you might guess, to have all of our locations have the capability to handle client deposits and transactions on each system. But we've really been very successful in retaining clients or retaining fees.

Jeff Rulis, Analyst

Great. Thanks for the color.

Todd Gipple, CFO

Yes. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Larry Helling for any closing remarks.

Larry Helling, CEO

I'd just like to thank all of you for joining on our call today. We hope everyone remains healthy and safe. Have a great day. We look forward to speaking with you all again soon.

Operator, Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.