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Radware Ltd (RDWR)

Earnings Call 2021-09-30 For: 2021-09-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - RDWR Q3 2021

Operator, Operator

Good morning. Welcome to the Radware Conference Call discussing Third Quarter twenty twenty one Results and thank you all for holding. At this time, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, November three, twenty twenty one. I would now like to turn this call over to Yisca Erez, Director and Investor Relations at Radware. Please go ahead.

Yisca Erez, Director of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone and welcome to Radware's third quarter twenty twenty one earnings conference call. Joining me today are Roy Zisapel, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Goldberger, VP, Finance. A copy of our today's press release and financial statements, as well as the investor kit for the third quarter are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. During today's call, we may make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or future financial performance of the company. These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from Radware's current forecasts and estimates. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, impact from the COVID-19 pandemic, general business conditions, and our ability to address changes in our industry, changes in demand for products, the timing in the amount of orders, and other risk details from time to time in Radware's filings. We refer you to the documents that the company files and finishes from time-to-time with the SEC, specifically the company's last Annual Report on Form 20-F as filed on April twenty, twenty twenty one. We undertake no commitment to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances after the date of such statement is made. I will now turn the call to Roy Zisapel.

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Thank you, Yisca and thank you all for joining us today. We are pleased to report another strong quarter with double-digit growth across our major key financial metrics. In the third quarter, we set yet another revenue record hitting seventy-three million dollars of revenue. This represents seventeen percent year-over-year growth. In addition, earnings per share grew thirty-two percent to zero point two three dollars on the same basis. ARR grew sequentially by seven million dollars and nine percent year-over-year. The ARR growth consistent with previous quarters was driven by cloud and subscription ARR, which grew twenty-six percent year-over-year and is increasing as a percentage of total ARR. The momentum in our cloud business is being supported by impressive growth in cloud application security, improved retention rates and the steady increase in the number of customers each quarter. We are working diligently on expanding our cloud business. We're opening more points of presence for cloud application security and DDoS, so we can be closer to the customer and grow our business faster. We are already opening one to two new POPs each quarter across the world and plan to continue to do so in the coming quarters. The strong performance I just outlined is attributed to the combination of strong market fundamentals, our ability to innovate and the breadth of our product offering. One of the market forces that continues to play in our favor is the consistent drive in the number of cyber-attacks. In fact, they’re at record levels and are becoming larger and more complex. During the third quarter of twenty twenty one, we blocked thirty percent more DDoS attacks, twice as many web application attacks and three times more bad bot requests compared to the same period last year. The rise in the number and growing complexity of attacks is creating more urgency and driving organizations to strengthen the defenses around the critical assets. They no longer want to compromise protection levels, given implications to their brand, business availability, customer privacy and regulatory compliance. To meet the evolving needs of our customers, we continue to invest in innovation and lead the market with our superior technology. In the third quarter, we rolled out several new capabilities using sophisticated algorithms and automation to detect and mitigate the most advanced attacks. One example I want to share is our SSL protection. During the last year, attacks using the encrypted HTTPS protocol soared. As the adoption of encryption increases, attackers are using it to cloak their activities by blending in with legitimate encrypted traffic. Our newest algorithms expose this new generation of attacks without requiring SSL decryption, and at the same time offering mitigation at scale with even greater accuracy. Another challenge large cloud and service providers are facing is the ability to detect lower volume DDoS flood attacks within a high bandwidth network. According to our research more than ninety percent of DDoS attacks are less than 1 Gig and will not be blocked easily by traditional solutions due to the lack of detection sensitivity. While these attacks will bring down specific critical resources, it's hard to pinpoint them in a high bandwidth network. We are now completely innovating in this space. In our market first, we launched new quantile algorithms that divide incoming traffic into sole segments or quantiles. With this granular level of detection, service providers and carriers can automatically intercept phantom floods that historically have gone unnoticed. This new capability eliminates the costly and complex process of extensive manual configuration and ongoing threshold tuning. Our superior solutions continue to receive recognition from industry research firms. Recently, Quadrant named Radware as the leader in The SPARK Matrix: DDoS Mitigation report. With the highest ranking across the parameters of technology excellence and customer impact, Radware was positioned as the twenty twenty-one technology leader among fourteen other vendors in the Global DDoS Mitigation Market. We also were recognized by Gartner, in the Gartner Critical Capabilities for Cloud Web Application and API Protection. We were ranked number two for API security and for high security use cases among eleven vendors included in this report. And we are able to translate the strength of our security offering into market wins. Let me share with you a few examples of the deals that we signed during the third quarter. We won a large deal with the U.S. service provider for the DDoS security stack. This new logo experienced major attacks on their infrastructure and realized that their current protection was not sufficient. We demonstrated exceptional technical expertise and solution capabilities and won this leading customer. We also signed an expansion deal with a large U.S. service provider for cloud DDoS. This customer received a ransomware letter from one of the top hacking groups. The letter was followed immediately by a major DDoS attack which we successfully diverted to our cloud scrubbing center. We won this deal because of customer satisfaction from our solution, proven success in mitigation and the scale of our cloud DDoS solution. Another win in the quarter was a cloud application security deal with a multinational financial technology company that is an existing ADC customer of Radware. The company expanded its relationship with us and purchased our cloud application security. We won this deal based on our longstanding relationship coupled with the strength of our Cloud AppSec offering. Finally, we closed a large deal with a Global European Financial Services Group. This company experienced a volumetric attack when volumes surpassed their ISP mitigation capacity. The ISP was back-hauling the traffic and causing outages. They chose Radware to strengthen the security protection coverage. This deal was brought to us by checkpoints. In summary, the third quarter was marked by a solid performance and strong demand for our solution as we continue to witness the impact of an increased level of cyber-attacks. We are confident that this demand coupled with our broad security offering will fuel the growth for the coming quarters. And now to Michael.

Michael Goldberger, VP, Finance

Thank you, Roy and good day, everyone. I'm pleased to provide analysis of our financial results and business performance for the third quarter of twenty twenty-one. I would like to remind you that unless otherwise indicated all financial results are non-GAAP. Reconciliations between the GAAP and non-GAAP results for the quarter are detailed in our press release. As Roy outlined, we had a strong quarter with both the top and bottom line results far exceeding our expectations. Revenue for the third quarter of twenty twenty-one was a record of seventy-three point four million dollars representing an increase of seventeen percent year-over-year and marking the third quarter in a row of double-digit growth. We recorded growth from all revenue types predominantly subscription. We continue to expand our subscription business as reflected in total ARR, which grew nine percent in the third quarter and specifically, cloud and subscription ARR which grew twenty-six percent compared to Q3 twenty twenty. Looking at geographies, Americas are a primary region, which represents forty-nine percent of total revenue, grew eighteen percent in Q3 twenty twenty-one compared to the same period of last year. The reported strong growth in EMEA which represents thirty-two percent of total revenue and grew twenty-nine percent in Q3 twenty twenty-one compared to the same period of last year. APAC revenue increased one percent in Q3 twenty twenty-one compared to Q3 of twenty twenty and accounted for the remaining nineteen percent of total revenue in the quarter. We will now discuss expenses and profit. Gross margin for the third quarter twenty twenty-one increased to eighty-two point six percent compared to eighty-two point two percent in the same period of last year. Our gross margin can fluctuate from quarter-to-quarter, as a result of product and geographic mix. Operating expenses in Q3 twenty twenty-one were forty-nine million dollars, up ten percent from Q3 last year. The increase is a result of FX impacts as well as marketing and travel expenses which were lower in Q3 twenty twenty due to COVID-19. In Q3, operating income increased sixty-nine percent to eleven point six million dollars and operating margin expanded to fifteen point eight percent compared to eleven percent in Q3 twenty twenty due to the strong leverage in the model and despite the headwind from FX. Excluding FX impact, operating income would have been thirteen point two million dollars and operating margin would have been seventeen point nine percent. Financial income was one point four million dollars compared to two point eight million dollars in Q3 of last year. As we highlighted in previous quarters, the decrease in financial income is attributed to the declining yield on marketable securities and deposits. Tax rates for the quarter was fifteen point two percent compared to thirteen point seven percent in Q3 twenty twenty. The expected tax rate for twenty twenty-one is approximately fifteen percent to sixteen percent. Earnings per diluted share for the third quarter of twenty twenty-one increased thirty-two percent to zero point two three dollars compared to the same period last year. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flows items. Cash flow from operations was eighteen million dollars in Q3 twenty twenty-one compared to seven million dollars in the third quarter last year. Total cash and financial investments at the end of September twenty twenty-one was four hundred and fifty-six million dollars. I will turn the call back to Roy to discuss the outlook for the first quarter and the full year of twenty twenty-one.

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Thank you, Michael. Before opening the call for Q&A, I will provide our guidance for the fourth quarter. We expect Q4 total revenues to be in the range of seventy-four million dollars to seventy-six million dollars and full year twenty twenty-one total revenue to be in the range of two hundred eighty-four million to two hundred eighty-six million dollars. We expect our fourth quarter twenty twenty-one operating expenses to be between fifty-one million dollars and fifty-two million dollars, including increased investments in the business, coupled with the continued negative impact from the strengthening of the Israeli Shekel. With that, Q4 twenty twenty-one fully diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of zero point two one dollars to zero point two two. And full year twenty twenty-one, fully diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of zero point eight dollars to zero point eight one dollars. I will now turn the call over to the operator to start the Q&A.

Operator, Operator

Your first question comes from the line of George Notter with Jefferies. Your line is open.

George Notter, Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks very much. I guess maybe I would start. You guys have made a push I think into hiring more folks in North America on the sales front. I guess I would just check-in and kind of see where you guys are in terms of ramping that sales effort? And then also there was a CFO search underway I thought I'd ask about that one as well. Thanks guys.

Roy Zisapel, CEO

So thanks, George. The bidding environment is challenging. We are hiring in the U.S. But we are not yet full versus our plan. So we are doubling our efforts there. We've increased somewhat the level of salespeople, but they’re still far from where we are heading and going into twenty twenty-two. We're planning to increase that even further. So we have a lot of work to do in that front. We are progressing, but we would like to accelerate it. Regarding the CFO search, we have nothing to report yet, but obviously when we have, we will announce it publicly immediately.

George Notter, Analyst

Got it. Okay. How do you view the current deal environment? It seems there are opportunities in the marketplace that you aren't capitalizing on. What is your perspective on the potential opportunities you may have as you expand your sales team, and how do you assess your current ability to effectively reach the market?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

The opportunity is immense in cloud security. And obviously, we're just scratching the surface. I think we are represented to a certain degree in the very high end, most prestigious logos, but everything mid-sized of the market and below we simply don't have the capacity today to approach and we are increasing our efforts both organically through increased sales force across the globe, predominantly in North America, but now we're hiring also in EMEA and Asia-Pacific as well as through our other go-to-market channels.

George Notter, Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator, Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Reimer with Barclays. Your line is open.

Chris Reimer, Analyst

Hi. This is Chris on for Tavy Rosner. Thank you for taking my questions. Can you provide some color on the traction you are seeing with the OEMs?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yeah. So the OEMs continue to perform for us, every quarter, specifically, they are providing us with many new logos, as they are marketing our solutions to their existing customers. We are working now on ways to further penetrate the OEMs on more solutions and to grow our business with them even further. I did refer in the call for one large European customer that was brought to us by checkpoints and brought to us by Cisco this quarter, so we continue to see activity around the world, but definitely going into twenty twenty-two, we believe also there's an opportunity to increase it even further.

Chris Reimer, Analyst

Okay. And just looking across the geographies, you delivered strong growth in EMEA, Americas this quarter. APAC was kind of moderate. Can you comment on some of the dynamics you're seeing across the different regions?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yeah. At a high level, if I'm looking more on our booking numbers, so overall, all regions performed well, when it translates to revenue, I know that APAC shows flat to slight increase, however, from a booking perspective they were good. And I think one comment I want to make on the different regions is obviously our cloud solutions are stronger in North America and in EMEA and APAC depends on the specific market within APAC is a bit slower to adopt cloud solutions in general and cloud security in our case in particular. So we're more in the greenfield early scenario there and therefore, it might limit the growth rates that we can achieve. However, we believe the potential across the world. And if you look where we are opening data centers in North America, it's in Europe, but it's also in Latin America, it's in Asia Pacific. We think that cloud security is a very large opportunity globally and that all regions should be able to grow nicely as we go forward.

Chris Reimer, Analyst

Okay. Thank you. That's it for me.

Operator, Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew King with Colliers Securities. Your line is open.

Andrew King, Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. Congratulations on a great quarter. I have two questions. First, can you explain the 5G opportunities with the carriers and how you expect those to contribute to growth, as well as how COVID has impacted that? Secondly, you mentioned strong new customers; can you clarify how much of that was due to emergency onboarding compared to traditional sales processes?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yeah. So for first regarding 5G, we see that is a broader opportunity in carrier security, and I referred to some examples in my call. Today, we don't actively have projects in 5G networks that are particular to the 5G deployment versus next generation carrier networks, disaggregated networks, et cetera. So we don't focus on the 5G specifically as a growth driver for the coming eighteen months. However, we do see a broader opportunity as 5G networks are being built and that are much more application specific, and with the potential rise of 5G use cases for IoT, for autonomous cars and so on that would require deploying security at the edge. And here we think the opportunity is massively bigger than what we are seeing today in carrier networks. But for the short-term, I would not characterize 5G as a specific growth driver for us outside of the global growth we're seeing in the carrier segment as a whole. Regarding the emergency onboarding, I think we had several this quarter, but I think we had less than we had in Q2 or Q1 this year. So the growth in Q3 is not triggered by specific emergency onboarding. We did see, however, many customers that had an attack and I gave some examples in my script of those who failed to protect against the attack that passed, but given that they failed and they went down, they had to search for a solution. So we don't call emergency onboarding as we're not onboarding them under a specific attack, but definitely failure of existing topologies or solutions to protect is a very strong driver to upgrade and to change the incumbent solution. So this we've seen across the world multiple examples in the third quarter.

Andrew King, Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator, Operator

Your next question comes from Alex Henderson with Needham. Your line is open.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

Thanks. So I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the progress you're making with the service provider and other partners that you're signing to resell your technology across various, what I would describe as more narrow verticals. For instance, the transaction in Brazil with Azion or the one in Spain. Those projects obviously have a longer duration to when they start to show up in the revenues, but potentially could be quite large once those programs ramp. So, have you got any more experience with that, that you can share that gives us some sense of the timing of how those will ramp. I think you’ve ended like sixteen or seventeen of them over the last eighteen months?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yes, you're correct. We are continuing to prioritize this. We consider carriers, hosting providers, CDNs, and specialty application hosting and development providers as excellent sources for new customers. The demand for security is significant today. When hosting, one would expect their provider to ensure application security. If a third-party is involved in application hosting or any part of a business transaction, it is expected that they can deliver security solutions alongside that service. We've observed that these partners can greatly influence customer relationships and transactions through their ability to sell our solutions. We are increasing our engagement with them; while not all are achieving success, we are consistently seeing more customers from this trend of what we call active resellers, who are either bundling or leading with our solutions. For instance, in our relationship with Azion, we've already secured another customer this quarter, and last quarter we acquired a couple more. We're making steady progress, and the more partners we onboard—without overlap among them—will broaden our market channels significantly.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

So I mean, it clearly seems like there's a lot of wood behind the arrow here and the arrow is in flight. So when do these partnerships really hit the steep part of the ramp, is it a six to twelve to eighteen month process to get these people to build out their marketing programs and how do you share revenues or costs or how do they get compensated as part of it?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yeah. So, it depends on the size of the partner and their operation. But I would say, it's around six months to get going and to start training those sales forces and then being able to teach and close deals more independently. The business model is simple, it's like a reseller. There's a price list for the service that's competitive in the market. And we agree with them on a certain discount from that price list, it's obviously more than a regular reseller, it's less than global OEM like Cisco or checkpoints, so it’s somewhere in the middle, which provides them strong margin and big upsides to serve that critical need that the customers already expect from them in some cases.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

Given the trajectory of those wins, are we in the early phases of the steep ramp part? I mean, are we getting going to put to the shin of the S curve over the next year that going to be a big driver?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

We are still early. It should grow significantly next year, but in the global numbers it will be still a low component, but it will contribute. It will start contributing to our numbers and growth rates.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

Okay. Second question, can you talk a little bit about the rate of subscription and cloud growth which you're expecting and in your guide twenty-six percent in the current period at this point. What do you think the whole year number looks like for that subscription number?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

I think we said that it's around this area, if you look also on previous quarters, it's pretty consistent, the growth rates even if the numbers scale and I would look for it to continue. I think the growth driver of the cloud portion within it, which is even obviously a much faster growth rate continues and we're putting more investments into it. So this is what we would be looking for also going forward.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

Okay. And then, within the numbers, can you talk about whether you had any supply constraints? I didn't hear? So first call, the insistence systems come down, but that's been on hasn't mentioned supply constraints at all. And I know you do sell some hardware. So can you talk a little bit about whether you had a book-to-bill above one or below one or at one or what the supply constraints and whether that's impacting your costs at all?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Yeah. So we do like everyone else. I think those supply constraints, hit us mainly on the obviously on the appliance business. There's some minimal impact on the timeline of building new cloud nodes, as sometimes we rely on third-parties for switching routing and so on, but it mainly hits us on our own appliances and at certain product lines, we do see both significant cost increases as well as delays. But I don't think it's a major impact in the overall. We built some inventory ahead of time, if it would persist that problem will become of course bigger and bigger, if it could persist. But at this point, I think we're managing it relatively well. It hit us somewhat, but definitely less of an impact for our cloud security solutions or public cloud or software subscriptions where it's completely unrelated to it. So overall, I think we're in good shape, definitely relative to the industry, although there is some impact, of course.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

So your book-to-bill was consistent with around one then, it sounds like there is no backlog built?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

It is slightly above one or we've built more backlog through the deferral and so on. We will report it in the end of the year, but you will see that our total backlog is increasing.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

All right. And then the shekel obviously had an impact in the quarter, in the guide, I was surprised how much it spiked in the last month and a half or so? So what is the impact of the shekel in your four Q calculus?

Michael Goldberger, VP, Finance

Well for the next quarter, it will be less likely to impact us year-over-year it will be around six hundred thousand for the fourth quarter.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

And if it increases at this level, would it be in for the full year twenty-two?

Roy Zisapel, CEO

I think per quarter, it reaches now at zero point zero one or zero point zero two EPS. This quarter, it was a bit more one point five million dollars. So it's more, but going forward, quarter at this level is zero point zero one dollars to zero point zero two dollars per quarter.

Alex Henderson, Analyst

Thanks. That's helpful. I'll cede the floor.

Operator, Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Roy Zisapel, CEO.

Roy Zisapel, CEO

Thank you very much for joining us today and have a great day. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.