Earnings Call Transcript

RED ROBIN GOURMET BURGERS INC (RRGB)

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-06-30 For: 2023-06-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - RRGB Q2 2023

Operator, Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Red Robin Gourmet Burgers, Inc. Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. This conference is being recorded. During management's presentation and in response to your questions, they will be making forward-looking statements about the company's business outlook and expectations. These forward-looking statements and all other statements that are not historical facts reflect management's beliefs and predictions as of today and, therefore, are subject to risks and uncertainties as described in the company's SEC filings. Management will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures as part of today's conference call. These non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles but are intended to illustrate alternative measures of the company's operating performance that may be useful. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in the earnings release. The company has posted its second quarter 2023 earnings release on its website at ir.redrobin.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Red Robin's CEO, G.J. Hart. You may begin.

G.J. Hart, CEO

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. With me is Todd Wilson, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review our second quarter results and updated 2023 financial guidance, among other items, after I conclude my remarks. Let me first begin by expressing how pleased we are with our performance through the first half of 2023 and the continued traction we are seeing with our North Star plan. I want to acknowledge the hard work of our restaurant operators, our team members, as well as our restaurant support center team. Thank you, and keep up the great work. Our strong financial results in the second quarter, combined with other guest data provide further proof points that we are on the right track in this multi-year comeback. The highlights include comparable restaurant sales increased for the tenth consecutive quarter. The simple changes we have already made provide our operators greater ownership and control of their businesses, and they continue to break sales records. In the first half of 2023, we have now broken over 900 hourly, daily, weekly, and period sales records. This is an amazing accomplishment for a 50-year-old brand. Guest feedback continues to demonstrate how much they appreciate the changes we are making. We measure these in multiple ways and find aligned proof points across all measures. Dine-in is where most guests experience the improvements we have made to hospitality and food. We are encouraged by our growth in dine-in sales and our overall satisfaction scores, which increased 3 percentage points versus a year ago. We also monitor reviews on platforms like Google, Yelp, and Tripadvisor. Total net sentiment and service net sentiment increased 13% and 28%, respectively, as compared to the second quarter of 2022. Finally, we routinely survey our loyalty database. Among these most loyal guests, who have visited us in the past month, 42% agreed that food quality has improved, 44% agree that burgers have improved, and 46% agree that service and hospitality have improved. When we drill in further, the greatest gains are in our bottom quartile special focused restaurants, which represent tremendous opportunity for us. While making improvements in the guest experience, we've also quickly reinvigorated our profitability. In the first half of 2023, we have already generated $51.5 million of adjusted EBITDA, compared to just $52.1 million for the entire year of 2022. Now let me provide some brief updates on each of our five points of our North Star plan. First, we are transforming into an operations-focused restaurant company. Our frontline operators are the most influential people in ensuring our continued success. This is why we are keeping them front and center in every decision we make. They are the closest to the action, and this is paying dividends as we roll out our guest experience improvements. We want to make sure the goals of our operators align with the goals of our support center and shareholders. As announced previously at the start of the second quarter, we launched our revamped market partner compensation program, which rewards our multi-unit operators by allowing them to share in the profitability of the restaurants they oversee. This incentivizes strong financial results and helps us hire and retain the best talent available. We are learning from the multi-unit operator rollout, which has been well received to date, and we are developing a single-unit operator program, which we expect to launch in early 2024. Second, we are elevating the guest experience. As I mentioned earlier, we are seeing traction among our guest base evidenced by increases in overall satisfaction. This is a direct result of the people, food, and hospitality investments we have made to improve their experience. We are focused on the quality of staffing and delivering on our promise of unmatched hospitality. We have returned our overall hospitality model to what it was during Red Robin's long and successful history, beginning with service being responsible for fewer tables so they can deliver a great experience to each guest while minimizing the false waits that have occurred in the past. Other staffing improvements include adding back bussers, which has driven increases in cleanliness ratings, staffing at the host stand, which has improved wait times, and bringing back the dedicated expo, who is responsible for the in-restaurant execution of every order. We are pleased with the progress made in all these roles, which are now substantially complete. Finally, we know having the right management complement in place at each restaurant is paramount to ensuring consistent execution. So far this year, we've added over 200 dedicated kitchen managers and expect to substantially complete our management complement investments by year-end. On food quality, we moved quickly and successfully completed the rollout of flat top grills during the second quarter across the entire system, including franchise-owned restaurants. This upgraded cooking platform sears in the natural juices of the burger delivering a 20% larger and more flavorful burger. The cooking process is also simpler to execute, enabling greater throughput and a more consistent end product delivered to our guests. We are very pleased with the guest feedback thus far. This upgraded cooking technology serves as a foundation for additional future innovation as it is a more flexible platform than the previous conveyor belt charbroiler. To showcase our food, we have upgraded the presentation by moving away from serving our burgers wrapped in wax paper in baskets and now showcase them on beautiful new plateware. Chef Ryan has done fantastic work to identify and develop improvements across our menu, and we could not be more excited. Along with changes to our cooking procedures, we have improved the quality of our chicken in our fried chicken sandwich, moving to a hand-breaded fresh product that tastes and looks amazing. Coming down the pipeline, we are phasing in upgrades to our bacon, mayonnaise, vine-ripened tomatoes, and other produce. We also plan to launch new menu items later this year to broaden our barbell strategy. This includes St. Louis-style pork ribs featuring our signature Whiskey River barbecue sauce, panko-breaded tsunami shrimp, and crispy parmesan Brussels sprouts as an appetizer. While we are so pleased with the progress to date, through our prioritized investments in people, food, and hospitality, it is now time to take the next step. In the second half of the year, we expect to launch the Red Robin renovation program and an output test group of up to five restaurants. We plan to use this first test group to redefine design elements, evaluate economies of scale for a full rollout, and guide our investments in 2024 and beyond. Perhaps most importantly, we expect to demonstrate Red Robin's potential in bringing all elements of the best guest experience together. This entails upgrading the interior ambiance and exterior appeal of our restaurants to match the food and hospitality upgrades that we are already underway with. We expect the test group renovations to start in the fourth quarter and to be complete in late 2023 or early 2024. Third, removing costs and complexity. To fund our guest-facing investments, we identified a number of non-guest-facing cost savings opportunities. Our supply chain team has done a fantastic job collaborating with our vendor partners finding smart cost savings levers and recurrent products at the same or better quality at a lower cost. Year-to-date, we have saved approximately $3 million and expect the savings rate to accelerate in the remainder of 2023. We also made the decision to exit the partnership with MrBeast Burger, a virtual brand. This decision supports our operators by reducing complexity in our kitchens, allowing them to focus on executing great food and hospitality under the Red Robin brand while driving more profitable sales. We wound down the partnership and were substantially complete with the exit in July. Fourth, optimizing guest engagement. We are making great progress in this area as we refocus our efforts towards driving our vision of being the most loved brand in the communities we serve. Our restaurants are returning to what made them great in the past, a focus on local marketing to build relationships. We are empowering each single-unit operator with a local store marketing toolkit, including engaging in fundraisers to support local community initiatives. To build visibility and excitement around our investments in food quality, we launched the coast-to-coast Summer of Yummm promotional tour, letting prospective guests sample our new and improved burgers, win prizes, and have some real fun. The response has been great as we connect with local communities across the U.S. Our team is also focused on enhancing the ability to reach more guests efficiently through a digital infrastructure and omnichannel approach. This includes leveraging the strength of our owned marketing channels, including our approximately 12.9 million-member loyalty program to drive traffic efficiently. At the same time, we are making changes to the program, pivoting away from what we view as an overreliance on discounts, instead rewarding those who are truly most loyal to the brand. As we continue to make investments in our people and food, we intend to reduce our reliance on discounts going forward. We are currently designing and developing a new program structure that we believe will enhance the value of this program to our guests and to Red Robin. Our new Chief Marketing Officer, Kevin Mayer, and the team have hit the ground running, and I will share more as this work progresses. Fifth, we are driving growth in comparable restaurant revenue and unit level profitability to deliver on our financial commitments. Q2 marked our tenth quarter of comparable restaurant revenue growth. We achieved this despite the headwind of intentional reductions in marketing spend and discounting compared to a year ago quarter. These funds have been reinvested back into the guest experience to drive traffic that is stickier and sustainable over the long term. Traffic and sales in the second quarter were in line with our expectations. Credibility with our multiple stakeholders is critically important. With the results that have been achieved this quarter, we continue to demonstrate our ability to deliver on our financial commitments. Now let me turn the call over to Todd.

Todd Wilson, CFO

Thank you, G.J., and good afternoon, everyone. I will begin with a recap of our financial performance for the second quarter, then discuss the moderating inflation trends we are seeing and our updated financial guidance for 2023. Total revenues in the second quarter of fiscal 2023 are $298.6 million, an increase of $4.6 million versus the second quarter of fiscal 2022. The increase in revenue resulted primarily from an increase in comparable restaurant revenue of 1.5%. We continue to see strength in dine-in sales, which increased 5.9% as compared to the second quarter of 2022. As a percentage of restaurant sales, dine-in sales mix increased in the second quarter and represented approximately 75% of sales. We expect this shift back to dine-in will continue as consumers seek the service and experiential aspects of dining with family and friends and as we step away from virtual brands. Like many in the industry, we experienced year-over-year sales declines in the off-premise portion of our business and the third-party delivery segment in particular. We observed the greatest change in consumer behavior in the third-party segment with guests managing their check down by approximately 12% as compared to the second quarter of fiscal 2022. A bright spot in our off-premise business is catering. Catering generated approximately $23 million of revenue in fiscal 2022 and has grown 44% in the first half of 2023 as compared to last year. The team has done fantastic work building and growing this business, and we believe plenty of opportunity remains. Restaurant-level operating profit as a percentage of restaurant revenue was 12.6%, a decrease of approximately 100 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2022. Directionally, this change was expected, as we said on our last conference call, and the actual result was better than our internal target. The reduction was driven by inflation across all cost categories and our intentional investments back into the guest experience through both food quality and staffing levels. While we do continue to see rising costs, the rate of inflation has eased faster than we expected. Commodity inflation was 5% in the second quarter of 2023, down from 8% in the first quarter and 13% in the fourth quarter of 2022. We expect commodity inflation will continue to sequentially step down through the balance of 2023. Hourly wage inflation was approximately 5%, moderating from 6% in the first quarter. We invested approximately $5 million in the quarter to add staffing across the different roles G.J. reviewed earlier. This amount substantially represents the quarterly run rate of our people investments and increased total labor to approximately 37% of restaurant revenue in the second quarter. We anticipate a lag effect from the time that we make investments like this until we see the return in the form of increases in guest traffic. In time, we expect these added resources to gain mastery of their role and build efficiency. In addition, we expect traffic growth to leverage our fixed costs. Together, we anticipate these levers can drive total labor as a percentage of restaurant revenue back to Red Robin's historical run rate of approximately 35%. In other operating expenses, inflation continues to moderate, particularly in natural gas, as we lap the geopolitical events that drove increases last year, and electric costs now that we are past the big increases in absolute rates during the first half of 2022. In addition, this expense category experienced lower third-party sales commissions due to the lower third-party sales mix. General and administrative costs were approximately $20.7 million, an increase versus the prior year of $1.9 million. The increase is led by accrual of higher incentive compensation expenses. We intentionally reduced marketing and promotional activity to support our hospitality investment. Selling expenses were approximately $6.2 million, a decrease versus the prior year of approximately $7.2 million, led by reduced spending in internet, local media, and marketing costs. Discounts represented 3.9% of revenue in 2023, a decrease of 90 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted EBITDA is $15.5 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of $11.9 million in the second quarter of 2022. We ended the quarter with approximately $44 million of cash and cash equivalents and $25 million available borrowing capacity under our revolving line of credit. At quarter end, our outstanding principal balance under our credit agreement was $197.5 million, and letters of credit outstanding were $11.7 million. During the second quarter, among other items, we used cash to repay $15.5 million of debt, purchase $5 million of stock, and capital expenditures totaled $9.7 million. We have made two updates to our 2023 financial guidance metrics. First, we updated comparable restaurant revenue guidance from an increase of 2% to 4% previously to now an increase of 1% to 3%. This change is primarily due to the elimination of the virtual brand, MrBeast. Due to the economics of the agreement, we do not anticipate a material profitability impact. Second, we increased adjusted EBITDA guidance from a range of $70 million to $80 million previously to now a range of $72.5 million to $82.5 million. The increase is due to our overperformance versus our expectations in the second quarter and inflation rates easing more quickly than we previously expected. We reiterate all other measures from our prior guidance. I will add texture to one of the other guidance metrics. Our prior and current guidance for capital expenditures is from $45 million to $50 million. We are actively marketing additional properties for potential sale-leaseback transactions and remain optimistic these efforts will prove successful. If we do complete additional sale-leaseback transactions in 2023, we expect to reinvest a portion of the proceeds back in the business through capital expenditures, which could increase our 2023 expectation. Finally, as a reminder, as we think about the remainder of 2023, we will overlap Red Robin's $10 meal deal promotion from the second half of 2022. We expect our marketing messaging in 2023 will support the launch of our now better burger with significantly less discounting than last year. While last year's promotion successfully drove traffic and sales, the deep discount economics were quite penalizing to the profitability of the company in the second half of 2022. We anticipate shifting away from this type of heavy discount promotion in 2023 and building a healthy, sustainable, and more profitable traffic base. In summary, we are extremely pleased with our financial performance through the first two quarters of the year and have set up Red Robin to achieve and exceed our objectives for 2023. With that, I will turn the call back over to G.J.

G.J. Hart, CEO

Thank you, Todd. In closing, I remain incredibly optimistic about the future of Red Robin. Our mission is very simple: serving up awesome American food and bottomless fun. We have great people doing the hard work of transforming a brand across all touchpoints, growing traffic and sales, and increasing profitability. And we are having fun doing it. We have the right people, the right plan, an iconic brand with 50 years of amazing history, and an amazing loyal guest base to build on, and I'm proud to be a part of this incredible comeback story. We are now happy to take your questions. Operator, please open the lines.

Operator, Operator

Our first question comes from Alex Slagle with Jefferies.

Alex Slagle, Analyst

I wanted to kind of touch on the same-store sales and traffic and maybe you could elaborate on those trends relative to the peer benchmarks as you progress through the quarter and into the 3Q? And what you think were the bigger drivers of relative performance? Because I think you would mostly pick the low-hanging fruit from bringing down the false waits and really shifting more to driving the sales per hour as you start to improve the service, food, and experience and really leverage those investments. But I imagine that does come pretty gradually. So if you could kind of talk about how that progressed and what the path ahead looks like as you ramp awareness and frequency.

Todd Wilson, CFO

Yes, Alex, Todd here. Absolutely happy to talk about that. As we saw the quarter progress and now thinking about the balance of the year, if you go back to Q1, we outpaced the industry, and especially on the marketing front. I'd say we had relatively similar levels of marketing support this year versus last year. So with similar marketing, to your point, the benefit of eliminating the false wait, those types of things worked in our favor that drove the beat versus the segment. It was really the second half of the second quarter that we started to see the change in year-over-year spend. Now keep in mind, we very intentionally held some budget in the first half of the year so that we'd have marketing dollars to work for us in the second half of the year to support the better burger. But even with that, we're going to face year-over-year declines in marketing spend. Again, we think that's right because ultimately, we have to make the guest experience compelling to build that healthier, stickier traffic that G.J. spoke about. That's part of what you see in our sales guidance. We knew that hurdle was going to be out there. Our sales guidance of 1% to 3% for the full year really implies flat to potentially negative sales in the balance of the year. That's been considered in our numbers. And even with that, we're able to deliver the much higher adjusted EBITDA guidance. That's how we're thinking about the year. And yes, we see the headwinds in the absolute numbers and relative to the segment. But all of this is about the reset of this brand to set us up long term.

Alex Slagle, Analyst

That's good. Maybe you could talk about the opportunity to build awareness and get people in the doors to experience the improvements in the food and service and perhaps more details on the marketing plan. You mentioned a few things, but just whether you need to step beyond the digital, social, and local or just how you'd weigh your options?

G.J. Hart, CEO

Yes. Alex, it's G.J. here. At this point, the way we're looking at it is we revamp our whole loyalty platform and focus on doing the right thing by our most loyal guests and being able to communicate effectively with them. That's a process that we're in the middle of right now. We will use that as we really have the launch of our third promotion, or if we call it T3, our promotion with all better ingredients that we launched in early October. And that will be combined with things that we're doing digitally that are very targeted to the communities we serve and becoming much more efficient in terms of how we use media. That's the current plan. In terms of going outside into something more of a national media itself, I don't see us doing that at the moment. I think, candidly, we think that there's enough going on here that from a word-of-mouth and an experience perspective, we're going to gain traction pretty rapidly. We're seeing that in the early phases with what we've done with our flat top cooking. Just the changes we've made to date with the bun, the burger cooking, as well as the way we presented on the plateware. So I feel good about where we are, and we will take some of this marketing spend and put it to work here later in the year.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Wolf with CL King.

Andrew Wolf, Analyst

Just wanted to kind of ask a follow-up on the same-store sales guidance. First of all, for the quarter, did the discontinuation of the virtual brand, MrBeast, have any impact in the second quarter at all? Or was that something that did not get penalized by that?

Todd Wilson, CFO

Yes, Andy, Todd here. A little bit in the second quarter, really more of a third quarter impact, but right at the tail end of the second quarter is when we really started to wind that down and we did exit.

Andrew Wolf, Analyst

If I take the numbers and look at the second half, Todd, you mentioned that you expect results to be flat to down. However, it seems like there's a significant range there, from an increase of 1% to a decrease of 3%. Is there a specific trend that indicates a need for such a wide range, or is this just a cautious approach to your guidance instead of a more precise forecast? I'm trying to understand why the range for the second half is so broad.

Todd Wilson, CFO

Yes. I guess as we think about it, it's not an intentional wide or narrow, just kind of the range that we feel like we need. The trends certainly can ebb and flow but we still frankly have, right, half of the year to go. So there's a long way to still get through the balance of the year. And so not intentionally wide or narrow, just kind of the range that we felt comfortable with. I think we would typically have at this point in the year.

Andrew Wolf, Analyst

Okay. I have a general strategic question regarding driving traffic through promotions or advertising. You've reduced your selling expenses, which seems reasonable if you don't yet have the compelling offers needed to attract new customers. Looking ahead to next year, should we expect higher selling expenses since what you plan to offer to new diners will likely be more complete? Additionally, how does the loyalty program fit into this traffic strategy? Is it primarily a retention tool as you aim to establish it as a genuine loyalty program rather than just a discount initiative? These are two distinct questions, but they both relate to traffic.

G.J. Hart, CEO

Yes, Andy, I'll start with the last question there. Relative to the loyalty program, exactly; we want to recognize our most loyal guests and reward them accordingly and be able to develop a strong relationship with them. That revamp of that program, as I said, is ongoing, and I'm very confident that the direction we are going will yield significant benefits. In fact, I would tell you that we're finally going to use our loyalty platform in a way to really drive our business. So I'm very excited about what we'll be able to achieve as we enter 2024. In terms of your question around marketing and the level of marketing spend, I won't totally answer your question, but I will say this: the marketing spend that was done here, in my opinion, was not effective. It was not spent in a very targeted way. In fact, we have proof points that demonstrate, candidly, that it didn't work at all, and it wasn't targeted to the customers we want to engage with. I believe that the working dollars we will have available in '24 will be spent in a more targeted manner. So yes, we will ultimately end up investing back in our business for the right reasons to drive new people into our locations and inform them about our new offerings. The answer is yes. Will we continue the deep discounting that this company engaged in last year, particularly in the latter half of the year? The answer is no. We don't believe we need to give our product away. We have something pretty special that we're bringing back, and our guests are telling us that as well.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks with the Benchmark Company.

Todd Brooks, Analyst

First thing, I just want to clarify off of Andy's last question. You guys did not broaden out your range for same-store sales guidance. It's still the same 200 basis points, right? It's up 1% to 3%, not up 1% to down 3%?

Todd Wilson, CFO

That's exactly right, Todd. Yes. We shifted it because of the elimination of MrBeast. But to your point, the range, it's the same spread of 2 points for the year, just shifted due to MrBeast.

Todd Brooks, Analyst

Okay. Perfect. And then just a couple of additional questions. G.J., you talked about the greatest improvement being seen in the bottom quartile of stores. And I think at the ICR Conference, you talked about that being a 3,800 basis point spread from top to bottom. Would you want to share how much improvement you've seen or how much of that spread has closed between the bottom quartile and top quartile store with all your efforts?

Todd Wilson, CFO

Todd here. I'll start that and G.J. will obviously chime in. But as we look at the quartiles, yes, I think I'd frame it this way from two lenses: one, for same-store sales and two from a customer satisfaction and guest satisfaction level. One, fortunately, as we looked at the quartiles, all four quartiles posted positive same-store sales, but the bottom quartile was clearly the leader, which is what we would expect; it's the greatest opportunity there. It also was the leader, as G.J. said in his prepared remarks, in terms of improvement in guest satisfaction. So it's still an opportunity for us; that bottom quartile is still at the bottom, but we're seeing the greatest improvement there, both in terms of guest satisfaction and same-store sales. I don't know that we've really quantified that publicly. But I think directionally, we're seeing what we would aspire to see: the top performing restaurants are getting a little bit stronger and the bottom restaurants are showing the greatest improvement, which is very encouraging.

Todd Brooks, Analyst

Okay. Great. And then the final one for me. You talked about the elimination of MrBeast and some of the other virtual brands. That 100-basis point drag to same-store sales, was that a relatively profitless business? So it eases complexity for your operators, and you're really not taking a hit on the restaurant-level operating margin line or the EBITDA line from exiting those businesses?

G.J. Hart, CEO

It was nowhere near as profitable as our regular business at all. In fact, that whole business over time has become even more complex, and the margins continue to deteriorate in terms of what their expectations were. So no, it's not even close.

Todd Brooks, Analyst

Okay. And then last one, I lied before. If you look at same-store sales trends and the outlook for the second half, and you have to parse out the headwind that you're up against from lapping the $10 promotion that ran in the second half of last year. I guess, how do you measure the success with the operational initiatives? And if you look at the promotion, was it more impactful at launch? So it's one of those things that had a bigger impact, let's say, deeper into Q3. But then as you got to Q4, it wasn't impactful as far as a mix standpoint or anything? Or was it a pretty steady impact across the year?

Todd Wilson, CFO

Todd, I'd say on the last piece there as it relates to the $10 meal deal, it was a pretty steady push through the second half of last year. A lot of that activity predates many of us, but the company frankly pressed on that with spurts of marketing activity to really drive that message. To your point, how do we measure it? We've benchmarked sales and traffic back to 2019. We look at sequential trends and try to parse all of that out. We do see a clear improvement in traffic as a result of the promotion last year, somewhere in the 3%, 4%, 5% range is where we estimated that. But we also see significant discounting that I commented on in my prepared remarks. Through the back half of the year, both Q3 and Q4, discounts for the company last year were between 5% and 6% of sales. We think this year is going to be closer to 3% to 4%. The flow-through or contribution from that is obviously quite significant. This is part of how we're thinking about this: getting back to that healthier, more profitable base that we talked about. There could be some traffic headwind as a result of that, but we think the move makes us a much stronger and healthier company, especially to G.J.'s point, now that we know we've got great products, great experience, and we're seeing guests tell us that in their comments to us.

G.J. Hart, CEO

Yes. And I think it's important that we continue just to monitor the guest response and how they're feeling about what we're doing, how we're doing it. We're doing a tremendous amount of work around sentiment and kind of what we're seeing. We'll adjust accordingly. So right now, we're feeling like we're pretty close to it. We'll be able to share more of those data points as we get them.

Operator, Operator

There are no further questions in the queue. I'd like to hand it back to management for closing remarks.

G.J. Hart, CEO

Thank you all for joining us today. We are very, very pleased with where we are at the first half of the year. Looking forward to the balance of 2023 and look forward to talking to you in a few months. Take care.

Operator, Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.