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Silvercrest Asset Management Group Inc. (SAMG)

Earnings Call Transcript 2021-09-30 For: 2021-09-30
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Earnings Call Transcript - SAMG Q3 2021

Operator, Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Silvercrest Asset Management Group Incorporated Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. Before we begin, let me remind you that during today's call, certain statements regarding future performance are forward-looking statements. They are based on current expectations and projections, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made. Those factors are disclosed in the filings with the SEC under the caption Risk Factors. For all such forward-looking statements, we claim the protections provided by the Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of the date hereof, and Silvercrest assumes no obligation to update them. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO of Silvercrest. Please go ahead.

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

Thanks very much, and thanks for joining us for our third quarter update of 2021. We're pleased to report strong financial results for the third quarter despite anemic markets and institutional rebalancing during the quarter. The firm's discretionary assets under management, which drives revenue, increased 25% year-over-year. Commensurate with that increase, Silvercrest concluded the quarter with $33.5 million in revenue and quarterly adjusted EBITDA of $10.3 million, representing year-over-year increases of 23.1% and 27.4% respectively. Our adjusted diluted earnings per share increased 25.7% year-over-year to $0.44 per adjusted diluted earnings per share. Silvercrest sought to achieve $1 billion in AUM with its relatively new Outsourced Chief Investment Officer capability by the end of 2021. We are pleased today to report that the OCIO business now has $1.1 billion in assets under management. We have a stronger business pipeline of opportunities, and crossing this AUM threshold will be helpful to building that business. Our new business opportunities continue to grow thanks to continued strong relative investment performance for high net worth and institutional clients alike. During the third quarter, Silvercrest repurchased approximately 27,000 shares of Class A common stock for approximately $400,000 pursuant to its previously announced share repurchase program on July 28, 2021. On November 2nd, the company's Board of Directors declared a quarterly dividend at $0.17 per share of Class A common stock, which represents an annual yield based on the closing price of the company's Class A common stock on November 3, 2021. The dividend will be paid on or about December 17th to shareholders of record as of the close of business on December 10th. With that, I'll turn it over to Scott Gerard, and then we look forward to the conversation.

Scott Gerard, CFO

Thank you, Rick. As disclosed in our earnings release for the third quarter, discretionary AUM as of September 30th of this year was $22.5 billion, and total AUM as of the same day was $31 billion. Revenue for the quarter was $33.5 million, and reported consolidated net income for the quarter was $6.4 million. Looking at the quarter a little bit more detail, revenue again was $33.5 million, representing approximately a 23% increase over revenue of approximately $27.2 million for the same period last year. This increase was driven primarily by market appreciation, partially offset by net client outflows in discretionary AUM. Expenses for the third quarter were $25.3 million. This represented approximately a 14% increase from expenses of $22.2 million for the same period last year. This increase was primarily attributable to an increasing compensation and benefits expense of $3.6 million, partially offset by a decrease in general and administrative expense of $0.6 million. Looking further, compensation increased by $3.6 million or approximately 24% to $18.8 million for the three months ended September 30th of this year from $15.2 million for the three months ended September 30, 2020. The increase was primarily attributable to increases in the accrual for bonuses, salaries, and benefits expense, primarily as a result of merit-based increases in newly hired staff and equity-based compensation expense due to an increase in the number of unvested restricted stock units and unvested nonqualified stock options outstanding. General and administrative expense decreased by $0.6 million or approximately 8% to $6.5 million for the three months ended September 30th of this year from $7.1 million for the third quarter of 2020. This was primarily attributable to decreases in the fair value adjustment to the contingent consideration related to the Cortina acquisition of $1 million and occupancy-related costs, partially offset by increases in portfolio and systems expense and depreciation and amortization. Reported consolidated net income was $6.4 million for the quarter, as compared to $3.5 million in the same period last year. Reported net income attributable to Silvercrest for the Class A shareholders for the third quarter of this year was approximately $3.7 million or $0.38 per basic and diluted Class A share. Adjusted EBITDA, which we define as EBITDA without giving effect to equity-based compensation expense and non-core and nonrecurring items, was approximately $10.3 million or 30.9% of revenue for the quarter compared to $8.1 million or 29.9% of revenue for the same period last year. Adjusted net income, which we define as net income without giving effect to noncore and nonrecurring items and income tax expense, where we assume a corporate rate which is blended of 26%, was approximately $6.6 million for the quarter or $0.46 and $0.44 for adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share respectively. Adjusted earnings per share is equal to adjusted net income divided by the actual Class A and Class B shares outstanding as of the end of the reporting period for basic adjusted EPS. And to the extent dilutive, we add unvested restricted stock units and nonqualified stock options to the total shares outstanding to compute diluted adjusted EPS. Looking at the nine months ended September 30th, revenue was approximately $97.8 million, and this represented approximately a 23% increase over revenue of approximately $79.6 million for the same period last year. Again, this increase was driven primarily by market appreciation, partially offset by net client outflows and discretionary AUM. Expenses for the nine months ended September 30th of this year were $76.6 million, and this represented approximately a 26% increase from expenses of $60.6 million for the same period last year. The increase was attributable to an increase in compensation and benefits expense of $10.7 million and G&A expense of $5.3 million. Compensation and benefits increased by $10.7 million or 24% to $54.9 million for the nine months ended September this year compared to $44.2 million for the same period last year. The increase was attributable, again, to increases in the accrual for bonuses, salaries, and benefits expense, primarily as a result of merit-based increases and newly hired staff and increased equity-based compensation. General and administrative expenses increased by $5.3 million or approximately 32% to $21.7 million for the nine months ended September 30th this year from $16.4 million for the same period last year. This was primarily attributable to increases in the fair value of contingent consideration related to the Cortina acquisition of $5.1 million, trade errors, professional fees, sub-advisory and referral fees, and insurance expenses, partially offset by decreases in travel and entertainment expense, portfolio and systems, and depreciation and amortization. Reported consolidated net income was $16.4 million for the nine months ended September 30th this year compared to $14 million for the same period last year. Reported net income attributable to Silvercrest for the nine months ended this year was approximately $9.6 million or $0.99 per basic and diluted Class A share. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $30.4 million or 31.1% of revenue for the nine months ended September 30th this year compared to $23 million or 28.9% of revenue for the same period last year. Adjusted net income was approximately $19.5 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2021, or $1.35 to $1.31 per adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share respectively. Looking quickly at the balance sheet, total assets were approximately $212.9 million as of September 30th this year compared to $213.8 million as of the end of last year. Cash and cash equivalents were approximately $65.9 million at September 30th, which compared to $62.5 million at the end of last year. Total borrowings as of September 30th this year were $9.9 million. Total Class A stockholders' equity was approximately $75.5 million at September 30th this year as well. That concludes my remarks. I'll now turn the call over to Rick for Q&A.

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

Thanks very much, Scott. We're now available to have a discussion and answer some questions. Thanks.

Sumeet Mody, Analyst

I just wanted to start on the OCIO business; it's really great to see that AUM has crossed the $1 billion threshold. Maybe at a high level, could you just give us some color around what size this business could reach over the next couple of years? Now that you've reached an inflection point with the current infrastructure in place, just trying to get to where the capacity for growth is with what you have, and when do you consider adding more heads or more hires in that area to accelerate growth even more?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

It is a more leverageable business in some respects than the high net worth business. It kind of sits in between pure institutional equity mandates where there is a substantial amount of leverage inherent in those capabilities versus high net worth, which is a very client service-driven business. The OCIO business sits a bit in between, because we are taking an approach where we partner with the organizations that we are managing money for. They're doing a lot more on a discretionary basis than many other consultants who may have a single model, an endowment-like model that they're distributing to their OCIO clients. So our capability is a little bit more personnel heavy. That said, we've built out the team, and there's a lot of capacity there. To answer your question, I'd like that business to be a few billion dollars. I think it can do that. If we added any personnel there, it would likely be pretty low-level support type roles, not expensive portfolio management roles. I feel that we've got plenty of room to grow on the portfolio manager lead, sort of PM side of that business. There's also occasionally the situation where a high net worth portfolio manager will serve as a lead on behalf of an OCIO client. So there's other capacity at the firm to deal with those clients. So long story short, lots of capacity, I'd like to see it be a few billion dollar business over the next couple of years.

Sumeet Mody, Analyst

And just wanted to shift gears towards the international expansion as well through Neosho. I know they have a small-cap international strategy that was expected to reach a few billion in AUM over a few years. Now that we're a couple of years into that, can you just maybe update us on how things are going there and the progression?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

I've never given a target for that team at all. So I don't know where the confusion is there. That is a strategy that we said we had to incubate for two to three years, bring to market, familiarize people with this. That effort is going very strong. We've built out the marketing team. It's still quite a small effort. I haven't given any targets there and won't be for some time. They did have some nice new inflows in the third quarter, and their performance has been picking up. So that's really all the color I can give you at this time.

Sumeet Mody, Analyst

And then last one from me, on the discretionary AUM flows in the quarter. Can you just break down that $234 million net cash outflow number for us? Was there any tax-related impacts, or was that kind of that institutional rebalancing you mentioned?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

So, of course, that's a net number. The total rebalancing that you saw that created outflows in that number across the institutional product base was approximately $300 million. So that was a pretty heavy headwind. On the other hand, it was primarily rebalancing. There was one last account, not huge, that hurt a bit. It was also in a very high performing strategy. That said, $300 million in rebalancing is tough to overcome; that's just the nature of the business. It's not something where we feel we need to pay a lot of attention to when people have great gains; they're going to rebalance in their portfolios. So not an issue there. There were also some tax outflows for estimated taxes that were coming up in October. But I think the big story there is just rebalancing. And we're going to see that from time to time with strong performance. We'll make it up with new mandates over time as we’ve proven to do in the past. So if you want more color, maybe I can provide it, but that's the best I can do.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Sandy Mehta with Evaluate Research.

Sandy Mehta, Analyst

Just following up on the prior question about rebalancing. Perhaps if you could comment a little bit further. The markets have gone up. Are you seeing rebalancing away from equities, and is it rebalancing within other fixed income products, other Silvercrest fixed income strategies, or is it money that's moving away from the commons?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

So the rebalancing is really the institutional clients rebalancing their own asset allocation. So it was growth, and they have a certain percentage slot for the strategies we may be running. They're just bringing it back in line with what their desired targets are. We don't have much institutional fixed income; that's more driven by the high net worth business and isn't really worth commenting on, at least with regard to this. This is purely a phenomenon that you see from time to time in the institutional business as a result of growth. Where those institutional players are rebalancing to, I don't have a lot of insight into.

Sandy Mehta, Analyst

And one final question. Can you provide any additional information about the OCIO pipeline and the outlook? Specifically, is there any update on the institutional pipeline concerning finals or high-value prospects?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

I didn't mention the pipeline in OCIO, and it's approximately $600 million right now. We’re really proud that we crossed that billion-dollar threshold, because larger clients want to see that you have a critical mass of assets under management; that's the significance of that. So it's nice to be a bit ahead of schedule than what we had planned. We also have a significant number of assets that are just outside that actionable pipeline in OCIO, very warm opportunities, but we're not confident enough yet to count them in the pipeline. With regards to the institutional equity pipeline, that has increased, and it's about $1.16 billion, almost $1.2 billion. That pipeline has been increasing throughout the year; it's up from the end of the second quarter. Honestly, I would have hoped that a little bit more of it came into our hands during the third quarter. But the fact that that pipeline is intact and growing speaks very well for future growth and has been a great indicator because it's a very conservatively measured pipeline. The final piece is, of course, our business is significantly high net worth. And there's no question that there were disruptions to organically building that business through the COVID period. I'm seeing the activity picking up. PMs that we've hired just before COVID are getting some great opportunities. So we expect that to start looking a bit better as well. We don't have a pipeline in there; it's not a business that's easily measurable. But I do look at marketing activity, and I feel pretty good about where that business sits.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Marinac with Janney Montgomery Scott.

Christopher Marinac, Analyst

I wanted to ask, just leveraging your comments, Rick, on the kind of COVID era and reopening. Does that have an impact on the EBITDA margin going forward, and then what are your general thoughts for the EBITDA margin looking out for next year?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

I can say that we have seen an increase, partially due to lower travel and entertainment expenses, which have been consistently down. As we invest in the business, our margins tend to drop below 30%. While we don't provide guidance, I believe that the margin will be relatively stable in the near term. Travel and entertainment expenses are gradually increasing, but not to the point where we would suddenly see a drop to 29% or 27%. I welcome the increase in T&E. As we continue to reopen and encounter more opportunities for business development with high net worth clients, I might consider investing in an additional portfolio manager or two, which would also have an impact. However, for now, I anticipate only marginal changes as we slowly reopen. You can expect a relatively high EBITDA margin, whether that’s around 30%, 31.5%, or just above 29%. I can't specify, but it will certainly be higher compared to the historical performance of the firm. I hope that provides enough insight.

Christopher Marinac, Analyst

No, that's great. I appreciate that. And I guess my next question was kind of from a high level. Pricing seems to have really got even stronger in recent quarters for the business, and I'm sure you're seeing that on any M&A discussions. I'm curious kind of where you think we are from a secular standpoint on pricing and does that impact where you see the company in the future?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

I mean, we've talked about this theme of making really good use of shareholder capital to do accretive deals for these cash-heavy businesses, often with slow-growing organic capabilities and potentially declining revenue streams. It's still very expensive out there. As interest rates potentially normalize, it's hard to choose the term 'normalize' when you've had interest rates this low for so long. But as that occurs, I do see more opportunities long term. But keep in mind as well, this has never been a roll-up company. The kind of additions that we're looking to make are going to be people who have a lot of priorities in addition to the absolute value of their business. So we're always in conversations; we don't know when one of them might come to pass. Obviously, given the opportunity set, that's one reason why we pivoted toward finding what we think is the best asset management group in the space out there, which is ourselves. So we're going to pay attention to being able to buy ourselves back with that buyback as we wait for the use of our capital. And we’ll invest in the business organically, which is why I was talking about hitting EBITDA. I may have been a bit slow in doing that over what was planned because of COVID. I want to make sure that we're firing on all cylinders as we get out and travel more, and we've given opportunity for the investments we've made, whether that's OCIO or new high net worth managers to organically grow the business. So you put those things in the mix, and acquisitions are going to be additive. But long term, yes, if things do regress to the mean, we'll just wait for opportunities.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Sakai with Singular Research.

Chris Sakai, Analyst

I have a broad question regarding your AUM. Can you provide a breakdown of how much is allocated to composite versus large and small accounts?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

So we're all separately managed accounts, which means each of our strategies has a composite that we can market. I don't have that right in front of me; it's in all of our filings. It’s not a question I usually get. I have to dive into the footnotes here where we show the composite across the board. But generally speaking, this business is about 70% high net worth and 30% institutional, with our largest composite being in small cap value. But I don't want to give you ballparks; it's in our filings.

Chris Sakai, Analyst

And then the other question I had, I guess people have already asked. But what sort of driving the net client outflow? Was it the rebalancing you’re saying?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

The net client outflow wasn’t client outflow because it was just some assets of clients that we have. We kept our clients; it's just people rebalancing away from the strategies they're invested in here as part of their total portfolio. Often, let's say, they had a target of, just going to make up a number of 10% in a particular kind of strategy. If it grows to 12% or 13%, or whatever it is, they're going to withdraw some money to get back to their target allocation for their own pool of funds.

Chris Sakai, Analyst

I know, this is kind of a high-level question. But on your accounts, would you say they're really performance-based? The reason why I asked is, so say your composites don't meet the index performance. Are you going to see more of an asset outflow because of that?

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

Well, we don't have performance-based fees for any of our capabilities. We see on assets under management for our advisory services as with any institutional manager working with clients, let alone the high net worth. If you underperform for a sustained period of time, you will lose clients. No doubt, it's a very competitive market, which most people on this call understand well and are also in the business. But our strategies have very strong sustained long-term performance, so I don't see that as a high risk right now.

Operator, Operator

We will now take a moment for any last thing or follow-up questions.

Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO

Okay, well thank you very much for joining us. It seems like there aren't any other questions at the moment. I appreciate you hearing about our results for the third quarter of 2021. Despite some rebalancing out of the accounts, we had very strong financial results and certainly very strong growth over the past trailing 12 months. But most importantly, we have a very strong pipeline of new business potential opportunities across high net worth and institutional business. As we previously just discussed, we crossed a very important $1 billion threshold in the OCIO business ahead of schedule. Thanks so much for joining us. We look forward to talking to you all soon.

Operator, Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.