Earnings Call Transcript
SOUTHERN CO (SO)
Earnings Call Transcript - SO Q4 2020
Operator, Operator
Good afternoon. My name is Pema, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to The Southern Company Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded Thursday, February 18, 2021. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Scott Gammill, Investor Relations Director. Please, go ahead, sir.
Scott Gammill, Investor Relations Director
Thank you, Pema. Good afternoon, and welcome to Southern Company's year-end 2020 earnings call. Joining me today are Tom Fanning, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Southern Company; and Drew Evans, Chief Financial Officer. Let me remind you, we'll be making forward-looking statements today in addition to providing historical information. Various important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements, including those discussed in our Form 10-K and subsequent filings. In addition, we will present non-GAAP financial information on this call. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measures are included in the financial information we released this morning, as well as the slides for this conference call, which are both available on our Investor Relations website at investor.southerncompany.com. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Tom Fanning.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us. As you can see from the materials we released this morning, we reported strong adjusted earnings per share for 2020 that exceeded our guidance range. In addition, we have a solid outlook for 2021, and importantly, we are raising our projected long-term earnings per share growth rate. But before we turn to more on our year-end business update, I'd like to share some thoughts on 2020. In 2020, we essentially saw four pandemics: health, economic, social, and political. Southern Company demonstrated excellence and resilience on every front, including prioritizing the health and safety of our workforce and communities, overcoming decreased electric demand while delivering both strong financial and superior operating results, and continuing to address racial injustice, working with policymakers to advance a cleaner energy future. First, the health pandemic. The COVID-19 pandemic was, of course, the first and primary challenge that we faced last year and one that continues to impact our communities today. From developing a pandemic response reentry playbook, that was ultimately leveraged by many peer companies, to setting up a medical village at the Vogtle construction site and making heroic progress towards completion of those units, we placed the health and safety of our employees as a top priority. By taking care of our workforce, we were able to continue taking care of our customers. The economic pandemic. Beginning in March and April of last year, the world has experienced significant economic duress. Southern Company originally projected a $250 million to $400 million loss in revenue as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Through thoughtful, disciplined O&M reductions, we were able to mitigate the estimated now $300 million revenue loss that we have experienced while still providing reliability and industry-leading customer satisfaction to our customers. As well, our long-term efforts with the states that we serve on economic development efforts continue, helping capital investment and job growth in the communities we’re privileged to serve. The social pandemic. I am also proud of our ongoing commitment to foster racial justice. For years, this has been an effort of Southern's to focus on building a healthy culture. Even before the unrest last summer, we initiated an effort to donate $50 million to historically black colleges and universities. Last summer, I told you that meaningful discussions were underway across our company related to our actions and response. And while these conversations will continue, an initial outcome is that we have refocused our efforts towards a more holistic goal of diversity, equity, and inclusion, ensuring that all groups are welcomed, well-represented, engaged, and fairly treated throughout the organization. As an example of this commitment, the Southern Company Foundation recently announced a partnership with Apple, where each are investing $25 million to launch the Propel Center, a new digital learning hub, business incubator, and global innovation headquarters located in Atlanta for students throughout the nation of historically black colleges and universities. And finally, the political pandemic. I also want to address the political discord that our nation has experienced over the past several months. At Southern, we have consistently prioritized working with policymakers regardless of political party, and we have been working constructively with the Biden administration for months. In fact, we have already engaged in matters related to energy policy, especially the transition to a net-zero carbon future, as well as on matters related to national security. You'll see in the appendix a letter I sent to President-elect Biden pledging our support. As we continue to engage with the new administration as well as legislators and regulators at both federal and state levels, our positions will continue to focus on energy policies that can enable a smart transition and be informed by our key objectives of providing clean, safe, reliable, and affordable energy to our customers. So let's now turn to an update on Plant Vogtle Units 3 and 4. We remain focused on meeting the November 2021 and November 2022 regulatory approved in-service dates for Units 3 and 4, respectively. With the start of hot functional testing expected in only a few weeks, we now expect a November completion for Unit 3. For Unit 4, we continue to utilize an aggressive site work plan as a tool to provide margin to the regulatory approved November 2022 in-service date. Unit 4's current site work plan targets a third quarter 2022 in-service date. From a cost perspective, Georgia Power's share of the total project capital cost forecast increased by $176 million, largely reflecting estimated COVID-19 impacts and other costs, along with a replenishment of contingency to fund future expected risks that will include lower productivity rates and increased support costs. As a result, Georgia Power recorded an after-tax charge of $131 million during the fourth quarter. 2020 marked another year of significant progress at the site. Throughout the year, as some other major projects around the country were shutting down or delayed due to COVID-19, Georgia Power and the Vogtle site team worked tirelessly to implement measures to keep the project progressing while prioritizing the safety of our workforce and the surrounding community. Similar to what was experienced across much of the United States during the last two months of the year and earlier this year, we saw a surge in COVID-19 cases at the Vogtle site, which peaked around the beginning of January. Since the onset of the pandemic, and most acutely during the fourth quarter of 2020, the impact from COVID-19 has included high absenteeism and disruptions to planned or ongoing work as we isolated personnel. We estimate the pandemic has extended the schedule for both units by approximately three to four months, consuming much of the remaining margin to the November 2021 in-service date for Unit 3 and several months of margin for Unit 4. Unit 3 direct construction is now approximately 98% complete, and hot functional testing is expected to start in the coming weeks. On our last call, we identified three key risk factors to our timeline: electrical productivity, subcontractor performance, and what we call paper closure. Recall, paper closure relates to the turnover of systems to the testing group to help ensure that the as-built condition of the plant meets design specifications. Over the past few months, COVID-19 has hurt site productivity, negatively impacted electrical production, and impaired our ability to close paper issues that facilitate timely system turnovers and ultimately, ITAAC submittals. The combination of these factors has delayed system turnovers and impacted our timeline for the start of hot functional testing. Based on our recent production trends, we now expect to start hot functional testing during the second half of March and start loading fuel during July. Starting hot functional testing and fuel load on this timeline would support a November 2021 in-service date with up to one month of flexibility remaining in the schedule. Now certainly, risks remain to this schedule. These risks may be thought of in four segments: first, the completion of system turnovers leading up to hot functional testing; second, the successful completion of hot functional testing; third, the completion of system turnovers leading to fuel load; and fourth, an orderly transition from fuel load to an efficient startup of the unit. Successful completion of hot functional testing this spring would significantly decrease the remaining operational risk to Unit 3 completion, although certainly, challenges and risks will remain in focus as we focus on fuel load. ITAAC submittal and review is expected to continue to accelerate and will remain an area of focus. To date, 180 ITAAC have been submitted to the NRC. We expect approximately 20 additional ITAAC to be submitted by the start of hot functional testing and the remaining 200 to be submitted during hot functional testing and as we approach fuel load. Direct construction for Unit 4 is now over 75% complete. Last month, we started integrated flush and we expect initial energization to occur during March. To support the November benchmark, we will need to average construction completion of approximately 1.5% per month, which is in line with the average rate achieved during the period from last November through January. As we progress in 2021, construction production is expected to increase in support of our upcoming testing milestones. Importantly, as Unit 3 nears hot functional testing, we expect to shift additional resources to Unit 4 to increase our current pace of construction completion. Now turning to cost. During the fourth quarter, Georgia Power allocated its remaining contingency, plus an additional $5 million and subsequently added new contingency of approximately $171 million to support completion of the project. We estimate the pandemic has extended the schedule for both units by approximately three to four months at an estimated cost to Georgia Power of between $150 million and $190 million. This cost is embedded in our updated total project cost estimate. While COVID-19-related impacts were significant drivers of the change in our capital cost forecast, future risks, including construction productivity, were contributing factors. Earlier this week, the Georgia Public Service Commission unanimously approved VCM 23, which included project capital costs through June 30, 2020. As a part of the order, Georgia Power was directed to work with the PSC staff to develop a mutually agreeable recommendation to the commission by the end of March regarding the process, timing, and substance of filings related to the transition of Unit 3 costs into base rates. Additionally, Georgia Power filed VCM 24 today. The months ahead represent a critical and exciting time for Vogtle. The project team has worked tirelessly amid conditions none of us could have imagined just a year ago. Our employees, contractors, co-owners, and community partners should be commended for their perseverance and dedication to the completion of this important project. Drew, I'll turn it over to you now for an update of the financials and our outlook.
Drew Evans, CFO
Thanks, Tom, and good afternoon, everyone. I hope you are all safe and healthy. As Tom mentioned, we had a very strong year in 2020 despite the many challenges we faced. For the full year, our adjusted earnings per share was $3.25, $0.14 higher than last year and $0.03 above the top of our guidance range. 2020 was certainly defined by milder weather and sales impacts due to COVID-19, and we were able to substantially overcome both, as evidenced in our solid results. Looking at the details. Retail electric sales on a weather-normalized basis were down by $0.14 year-over-year, including impacts related to COVID-19, offset by customer growth. Milder temperatures throughout 2020 resulted in an additional $0.21 negative earnings per share variance as compared to the prior year. We substantially mitigated both weather and COVID-19 impacts through thoughtful, disciplined O&M reductions as well as continued investment at our state-regulated utilities. On a combined basis, these factors allowed us to exceed our adjusted EPS guidance for the year. A detailed reconciliation of our reported and adjusted results as compared to 2019 is included in today's release and earnings package. COVID-19 impacts reduced our projected weather-normal kilowatt hour sales by 3% for the year. The slight uplift from the residential sector persisted throughout 2020 with more people working from home. In the fourth quarter, we continued to see improvement in kilowatt hour sales for both the commercial and industrial customer classes. However, we do not believe we have seen a full recovery in these sectors yet. Factoring in impacts across all customer classes, our non-fuel revenues declined by approximately $300 million, which was at the lower end of our original estimates as the pandemic began. As Tom mentioned, an important part of our COVID-19 response was, and continues to be, supporting our customers. We have worked closely with customers across our regulated utilities, offering special payment plans for those with past due account balances, and have delayed disconnects. You can see the impact of our COVID-19-related protocols for disconnects in our customer counts for the year. Last year, our state-regulated utilities added just over 53,000 new residential electric customers and nearly 30,000 residential natural gas customers. Our electric customer growth was approximately 30% higher than our expectations. Overall, we estimate that about 80% of the residential electric customer growth in 2020 was due to continued and accelerating in-migration to the region, particularly in Georgia. The remainder is likely related to the steps we have taken to keep customers connected during the pandemic, particularly through the use of extended payment plans. During this time, customer arrears have tended better than we anticipated across our operating companies. We also have constructive mechanisms approved by the commissions in many of our states, allowing us to address incremental COVID-19-related costs, including bad debt expense. Those will be considered in future regulatory proceedings. In a trend that differentiates our service territory, the pandemic has strengthened population and job growth in the Southeast, particularly in Georgia, which is one of the fastest-growing states in the United States. Robust economic development in the Southeast region is also a positive indicator that our key states are weathering the pandemic relatively well. In 2020, we saw new investment of nearly $6 billion and nearly 25,000 jobs created across Georgia and Alabama. In fact, Georgia was the number two state in the country for job creation in December. And just last week, Microsoft confirmed Atlanta as a major East Coast hub, which is expected to bring significant job growth and investment. Our state-regulated operating companies play an integral role in leading economic development efforts in each of their states. Turning now to our expectation for 2021. Our guidance range for the year is $3.25 to $3.35 per share. In the first quarter of 2021, we expect we estimate that we will earn $0.84 per share. Included in our full-year guidance is an assumption that we will see modest impacts continue to see modest impacts on retail sales from COVID-19, which we expect to continue to mitigate through thoughtful cost control. Additionally, we expect total retail sales growth normalized for any short-term COVID-19 impact to be flat to 1%. For this foreseeable future, this expected growth rate is driven by a combination of customer growth and ongoing improvements in energy efficiency. Moving now to our outlook for long-term growth. We see our long-term EPS growth rate in the 5% to 7% range, consistent with adjusted earnings in the range of $4 to $4.30 per share by 2024. With 90% of total projected earnings over the five-year plan horizon coming from our state-regulated utilities, our expected EPS trajectory has a solid foundation. Likewise, our history of constructive regulation, stable credit metrics, and ongoing focus on cost control serve to underscore the achievability of our plan. Looking more closely at our long-term capital investment plan, we continue to allocate 95% of our capital investment to our state-regulated utilities. Our capital investment plan of $40 billion for 2021 through 2025 includes annual projected rate base growth at our state-regulated utilities of greater than 5% with a continued emphasis on transmission, transportation and distribution, modernization and resilience. For Southern Power, the cumulative five-year investment plan is comprised entirely of previously approved renewables projects and maintenance capital for the existing generation fleet, which is over 90% contracted for the next 10 years. Any incremental growth opportunities at Southern Power are expected to enhance the long-term financial plan and be largely self-funded and credit-neutral. Importantly, this CapEx projection for the whole company does not include amounts for accelerated fleet transition and any associated transmission growth, nor does it account for new generation projects at Southern Power. We will be evaluating a number of paths over the next few years as it relates to the fleet transition, but we do not establish placeholders in our plan with virtually all projects being known in the process of, or having already been engineered, or have already begun. Taking a look at the balance sheet, we currently forecast no equity needs over our five-year plan horizon, even when considering the potential increase in capital investment I just described. We believe we are well-positioned to further strengthen our balance sheet and to improve our credit metrics materially during this time. I'll highlight that in January, we became the first large-cap utility in the U.S. to publish a sustainable financing framework, and the days that followed Southern Power issued a five-year green bond under that framework that resulted in a record low coupon rate. This framework highlights Southern's ongoing commitment to a wide range of sustainability and social issues and should allow us to leverage our work in these areas to help optimize our balance sheet and benefit our customers. We will also continue our focus on societal priorities in the upcoming years. Before I turn it back to Tom, I'd like to echo his opening remarks. The resilience of our business has demonstrated amid the pandemic is a testament to the hard work our employees put forth every day. The ability of our employees to continually provide outstanding service to our customers, combined with the support of our communities and the constructive relationships we maintain with regulators and public officials, underpins our ability to also deliver such solid performance. I would like to particularly thank the people who work for, and on behalf of, our customers to meet our priorities even in light of a global pandemic. We are all grateful. Thank you. Tom, I'll turn it back over to you.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Thanks, Drew. I'd like to circle back to your comments on fleet transition. Southern has two primary goals related to our greenhouse gas emissions. The first is to achieve net zero emissions by 2050. We will work constructively with the Biden administration to accelerate this timeframe as national policy evolves. The second is to put in place an interim milestone to achieve a 50% reduction in greenhouse gases by 2030. Regarding the intermediate goal, we achieved our 2030 goal in 2020, with preliminary greenhouse gas emissions now down 52%. Now, certainly, 2020 was an unusual year, and we may see emissions reductions move around 50% for the next two years, but we believe we'll be sustainably above our 50% reduction level by 2023. While ESG issues have received increasing attention from investors over the past few years, at Southern Company, these issues have consistently received the heightened attention they deserve, and it's being recognized. We were once again ranked as one of the world's most admired companies by Fortune Magazine. DiversityInc rated us as a top company for ESG. For the fifth consecutive year, we've received a perfect Corporate Equality Index score from the Human Rights Campaign. In addition, we're very proud of the A- rating we recently received from the Carbon Disclosure Project for our environmental transparency and leadership. We recognize the value our investors and stakeholders place on transparency, and we are committed to continued enhancements. And before closing, I want to just take a moment to recognize our leadership transition announcement that we made at the end of last year. My trusted friend and one of my closest confidantes, Mark Lantrip, plans to retire in April after dedicating 40 years to Southern Company. Mark has helped position Southern Company as a leader that is building and shaping the future of energy. We are grateful for the many contributions Mark has made to our business, and we'll miss him dearly and wish him all the best. Mark is passing the baton to Chris Kaminski, who has been a valued member of the Southern Company leadership team for many years, holding key positions at both Georgia Power and Southern Power. In closing, over the past decade that I have been privileged to serve as CEO of Southern Company, I can think of no other year that I've been prouder of the way we've conducted ourselves and managed our business. Our engagement with and empathy for our employees, customers, and communities in 2020 demonstrates our enduring commitment to be a citizen wherever we serve. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.
Operator, Operator
Thank you, sir. We’ll now begin the question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Bank of America. Please proceed.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith, Analyst
Hey. Good morning. Hey, buddy. Hey, thanks for the time. Congrats, guys. So maybe just to kick things off on a light basis. $5 to $7, how are you thinking about the base here? You guys gave the $4 to $4.30 number, but can you talk about what's the baseline year for that? And then if I can throw it in there at the same time, that five to seven, how are you thinking about upside CapEx, perhaps some of the spending opportunities that exist in a, shall we say, post-Vogtle world, as you think about this transition? How does that fit against the numbers you guys gave today?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes, man. You bet. We did it a little bit differently this year. The way you should think about the base here is kind of a 2024 number. That is $4 to $4.30 and then kind of reverse engineer back from that at the kind of top end of that range at a growth rate of 7% and the bottom end of that range at kind of 5%. That's how we come up with 5% to 7%. Certainly, as we move from 2021 to 2022, there's a step change, but I think you can see the math from there. With respect to that range, it's fascinating. As Drew pointed out, and I've said this before on other calls, the way we do CapEx forecasting, in my opinion, is really conservative. What we put out there, I know some companies – I shouldn't say this, but perhaps some companies use CapEx forecast to plug to a growth rate. We do almost the opposite. We only put in our CapEx forecast what we know or what we firmly expect, and we do not put in placeholders. So what is absent in that CapEx forecast is capital allocated to future projects at Southern Power. You know that we allocate, on current practice, about $0.5 billion a year to that business unit, but none of that is showing up in the CapEx forecast. Certainly, as you look at fleet transitions that I think, from a policy standpoint, are being pushed in Washington, you will see growth in renewables. And it wouldn't surprise me that there will be plenty of opportunities to do more solar and wind in the future. Right now, we think those markets are very tough, so we elect not to put anything in the forecast. Secondly, we don't include any fleet transition. I think it's been very clear and I've been in the press here recently, talking about the transition of the fleet and working with the Biden team to think about how to move net zero 2050 to something sooner. I know President Biden, now would like to put out a marker of net zero by 2035 for this industry. We certainly – I think we can certainly achieve that. There are certain policy choices that will have to be made along the way, but we are engaged constructively in that conversation. If you go to something like that, I think you will accelerate fleet transition. Again, nothing in this CapEx forecast is reflected associated with any of retiring coal plants sooner or building more renewables or more gas assets in this timeframe. Drew, what else would you add?
Drew Evans, CFO
I would like to add that looking back at our performance since 2018, we have consistently grown our rate base and earnings in the range of 4% to 7%. There have been some deviations due to penalties related to the Vogtle construction, and we expect some changes when Vogtle is operational, which will affect our growth rate over time. Our focus is on the longer-term potential of the business as we make capital investments. Additionally, a significant aspect that Tom mentioned is our need for generation modernization, which we have yet to fully quantify as it can unfold in various ways. We currently have around 10 gigawatts of coal-fired facilities and must identify methods to ensure reliable service for our customers without depending primarily on coal. In the coming years, we will explore emerging technologies and options that align with our goals and will share our findings as they become clearer.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hey, one other point, Drew, and I didn't mention this one, I'll bet you there's at least another $1 billion of transmission. So when we talk about transitioning the fleet, it isn't just choices in generation, which we think we'll have. We do believe that there will be additional transmission associated with this transition that will occur. I see that easy to achieve over this five-year period. One last thing, and I'm not often doing this, but complementing the analyst community, you guys have done the math. If you back out this penalty period, we have been earning about 6% EPS growth once you exit that period. And so that actually creates a nice line going into the future. Julien, anything I didn't cover you wanted?
Julien Dumoulin-Smith, Analyst
Listen, so let me clarify that, if I can, when does some of this CapEx start hitting, right? Whether the transition on generation, when you guys have this 4% rate base trajectory through 25?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yeah, I mean…
Julien Dumoulin-Smith, Analyst
It seems like that already translates to the 5% to 7%. When you actually get this CapEx uplift, it sounds like that drives you higher within that 5% to 7% range, as I'm hearing you, right, as you get some…
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yeah. So you know, and you all know that we never try to get ahead of our regulatory processes, and each of our states follow their own version of an integrated resource plan. And so as we file those plans and file, whether it's RSE in Alabama or the three-year rate case at Georgia or PEP in Mississippi, that we'll make those plans known and approved by the commissions as appropriate. The other thing you should know is that heading into this call, I guess, we showed 4% for electric, it was 5% probably a week ago, it's rounding, okay? So it's in the middle of 4% to 5%. The gas business is growing at like 10%. And so the overall support of the growth trajectory, that is supportive of 5% to 7%. And you're right. When you think about starting with $4 to $4.30, there is upside to a mid-range forecast there based on how we deploy capital over time. But I think even with the base forecast that we're showing you today, we're within that range, and we're comfortable at 5% to 7% within that range in 24.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith, Analyst
Yeah. Absolutely, great. Thank you for clarifying that all. Best of luck guys. Talk soon.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Thank you so much. Appreciate you calling in.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. And up next, we have a question from the line of Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead, sir.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hey, Steve. How are you?
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
Thank you. Hi, Tom. Good afternoon. I have a question. If you find that you cannot meet the November deadline for Vogtle, could you clarify what steps you need to take? Do you need to file anything, or do you just need to update the schedule?
Tom Fanning, CEO
That's right. We'll just update the schedule. And certainly, I think we're pretty good about letting people know when things change. We did the press release with the expressed intention of moving off of what we had thought, I guess, back in October, may have been July HFT. As this third wave of COVID hit, it really did just knock us for a loop in terms of productivity and pushed us now. And actually, the numbers continue to move just a wee bit, but it puts us from February now into March. No, it really just has a function of cost, Steve, and it really depends on when you incur the costs, okay? So if it is a delay that causes us to get into hot functional tests, the amount of both units in Georgia Power dollars is about $40 million. If it's items – I mean, Unit 3 only, it's about $25 million. If, however, we shift, and it is a delay kind of from fuel load to in-service, in other words, it's some punch list that causes us to have a delay in the in-service declaration of a unit, it goes way down. For both units, it's $25 million a month. For Unit 3, it's only $10 million a month. So depending on when the delay occurs, there would just be an additional cost that we're factoring in. And I will say that with this now new estimate on estimated cost to complete, this $176 million we've added this time, it includes a November in-service for both units. It includes a CPI number that is like 1.8. It includes a construction per month that is consistent for Unit 4 with our experience from November to January. Now my hope is that we can improve on those numbers but we wanted to put out what we thought was a thoughtful and kind of reasonably conservative estimate so we wouldn't have to come back to this number again. No assurances that won't happen, but that's where we are.
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
Okay.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Steve I think…
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
So I know there’s November…
Tom Fanning, CEO
I think the only thing mechanically that occurs is that we continue to function under a penalty ROE until we bring the unit into service, and so that would be the material thing to model.
Drew Evans, CFO
That's right. You start losing that penalty rate once you declare in service.
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
Okay. So because I know for a long time, we've had November as this like regulatory approved deadline. If there's a new deadline or whatever, you don't need to kind of go back and seek a new deadline or anything like that. You just finish it and go through the VCM process?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes, sir. There's nothing special. The VCM process we've been filing has been really effective at kind of handling those issues. And as you guys know, you follow those VCM filings very clearly. That's kind of the way we would handle it.
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
Okay. And then 1 other just quick Vogtle question. I think there's a new – or there's going to be a new chair of the NRC. Does that matter at all for you in terms of your timing process? I doubt that they're too much in the weeds of everything. But...
Tom Fanning, CEO
Oh, no, I would argue. Hey, look, Steve Kuczynski and I meet with each of the NRC commissioners regularly. We're very happy with Chris Hanson and were very happy with Kristine Svinicki. I believe Chris Hanson will run the NRC in alignment with Svinicki's principles. Hanson has diverse experience in Congress alongside Dr. Ernie Moniz, who is on our Board. We know him well, and we believe he will be excellent. The NRC is a very tough regulator, but we think they are fair and have been constructive in their treatment of Vogtle 3 and 4.
Steve Fleishman, Analyst
Great. Thanks so much.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Thanks, Steve.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead, sir.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hey, Michael, glad to have you with us.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Glad to be here. To follow up on Julien's question, the 4% rate base growth profile for electric suggests that once we reach the 2024 timeframe and the penalties are eliminated, moving into penalties will be the main driver of 5% to 7%, likely through 2024.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yeah. That…
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Yeah.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yeah. Michael, excuse me those penalties will expire as we move to in service for the units. They expire by degree. So in effect, once we declare Unit 3 in-service and then Unit 4 in-service, we actually have a step change in growth that we're really not saying a whole lot about. The 5% to 7% is what we think we can sustain and have sustained over recent history without this step change in the Vogtle uplift moving in the rate base.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Okay. I mean, because I was thinking that the 5% to 7% is simply sustained by increasing the CapEx profile and increasing the rate base growth profile once…
Tom Fanning, CEO
It is a sustainable growth rate beyond the uplift from Vogtle.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
It seems like any increase in renewable CapEx or recognition CapEx actually enhances the 5% to 7% growth rate.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes, it would, absolutely.
Drew Evans, CFO
We are focused on the sustainability of our spending and aim to maintain the 5% to 7% growth range for as long as possible. When comparing our earnings expectations for 2021 with our projections for 2024, it's evident that the latter exceeds the previously indicated range of 5% to 7%. We see this as a reflection of more robust longer-term sustainable growth, especially when we eliminate the risks associated with large singular projects.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yeah. And then the way you should think about it is almost reverse engineer. Start with what we're thinking about is a reasonable range with this CapEx forecast for 2024 and then reverse engineer backwards using 5% to 7% growth rate. We think that's the right way to think about this.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
And it looks like most of the increase or almost one-third of the increase in CapEx in this new plan is at Southern Power. That's this year. And is that just a function of you just not wanting to put placeholders in there? So each year, you'll simply have a major increase around the same amount for?
Tom Fanning, CEO
No. And I'd say in particular to Southern Power, it was more that we had earmarked capital in 2020 that was committed but not yet in place. We'll actually deploy that capital in 2021, which increases the expenditure. But if you look at it over a longer period of time, a three-year, five-year average, very close to the $500 million that you're marking that business. Yes. So I mean, let me just say it another way. Were we to spend the dollars that we allocate in our minds to Southern Power, that's an additional $2.5 billion to the CapEx forecast that doesn't show up in the forecast.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Yes. That's right. I hear where you're heading.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes. And like I said before, there's probably an additional $1 billion. I mean, who knows on transmission. And then whatever happens on fleet transition, there's something else there. Yes. I think what we've given you is kind of a bare bones approach, which we think is appropriate. And then that supports the 5% to 7%.
Drew Evans, CFO
And what we've represented for Southern Power in particular at $1.3 billion are committed projects that we will execute on within this calendar year or represent maintenance of those facilities over time.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Now I mean, you mentioned that the increase or the extension of tax credits and the promotion of renewable power by the Biden administration going forward could present more opportunities for Southern Power. In the past, you've been a little more, I guess, more cautious on it, saying that returns have been tight. You've been pulling back on spending at Southern Power. Are we – are you reversing that stance now? Are you thinking of it may be more opportunity, not less going forward?
Tom Fanning, CEO
No. In fact, I thought I'd put those words in there. The returns have been – the terms and conditions have been tougher. The duration of the contract has been shorter. And so all I'm saying is, and that's really the reason why we don't include capital commitment to Southern Power in our forecast. We think it's a very tough market. Now I was only postulating that with an administration that is really bullish on pushing more renewables, that the markets may get a little looser. But they're certainly not now.
Michael Weinstein, Analyst
Got you. Okay. Thank you.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes, sir. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. And now we have a question from the line of Angie Storozynski with Seaport Global. Please go ahead.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hello, Angie. How are you?
Angie Storozynski, Analyst
Great. How are you guys? So I have a question, one, obviously, about Vogtle. So we're all waiting to have functional testing to start. We have some concerns if it's going to uncover any sort of catastrophic flaw of the project. I mean, is there anything you guys have learned about Unit 3 that would make you feel more comfortable with how hot functional testing is going to go?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes. Angie, knock on wood, and don't show overconfidence or what have you. The Chinese plants that went through hot functional test went through it pretty well without any incident. We have every reason to believe that will be our experience as well. I just can't predict the future. That's all. There’s nothing that I know of that will cause me concern right now. And hey – and Angie, the other thing is we've done all these partial system tests along the way. And I think we've even surprised ourselves how well those have gone.
Angie Storozynski, Analyst
Okay. And something completely unrelated. Given what's been happening in Texas, and I understand it's a completely different design of market, but we're about to have this debate about what types of plants are needed on the system in order to maintain a reliable electric service. And again, lots of differences between your service territory and ERCOT. But in light of what has happened, is it changing your perspective of what types of power plants your utilities should have? You talked about some generation replacement. How does, again, the last week play into this planning?
Tom Fanning, CEO
I would like to share a few thoughts. I was on CNBC this morning discussing Texas, which sparked a great deal of interest. It ties into the difference between organized markets and integrated regulated markets. I have always supported integrated regulated markets because, through our integrated resource plans, we can start with optimal capacity portfolios and adjust transmission to support those portfolios. We can also incorporate resilience requirements and spread those costs across a large customer base. This approach has proven effective over the past decade. A significant criticism of organized markets is that they often function within restrictive constraints or profit incentives that, while rational, are typically focused on maximizing short-term marginal properties. This emphasis on minimizing short-term marginal costs is not a sustainable way to develop a robust portfolio. When other value factors are taken into account, such as transmission and backup generation, market strategies become quite complex. For example, PJM has been trying to find ways to value those additional elements. Moreover, I believe there is insufficient recognition of the value of long-term base-load capacity. We've seen valuable nuclear generation being priced out, which is concerning—especially as we aim for a carbon-reduced future. I think there are better strategies to adopt. It was noteworthy that after my conversation on CNBC, I received a call from the Biden administration, asking what our industry can do to address these issues from a national security perspective. Unfortunately, due to ERCOT's market structure, immediate actions are limited, but I believe we can improve resilience in the long run. Reliability involves managing fluctuations in weather, economic load, and machine dependability under known conditions, while resilience refers to maintaining system stability under unforeseen circumstances, whether they be operational, weather-related, or cyber threats. These are critical tasks for our industry, and I believe Southern is well-positioned to lead this important conversation.
Angie Storozynski, Analyst
Awesome. Thank you.
Tom Fanning, CEO
You bet.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Continuing on, our next question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hello Andrew. Thanks for joining us.
Andrew Weisel, Analyst
Hi. Good afternoon. I have a question regarding the updates to the decarbonization strategy. Specifically, for Georgia, considering the recent political changes that have made it a solid blue state, does that affect your perspective on how quickly and in what manner you plan to reduce your carbon footprint in Georgia as you approach the IRP?
Tom Fanning, CEO
We don't try to evaluate long-term strategies based on the current politics of any state or elected official or what have you. We have, I think, a very solid long-term plan. Now, I think the broader kind of issue that we'll be dealing with is how fast do we want to get to net zero and how will we do that? How will we evaluate the relative merits of just trading out one form of generation for another? How will we help fund and push some long research and development, energy innovation as solutions that will make this transition, hopefully, easier and more efficient in the years ahead? CNBC also did a segment just before mine with Bill Gates. He and I are on the American Energy Innovation Council, and we're working on several ideas. Whether they are storage-based, hydrogen-based fourth generation, nuclear-based, or even energy efficiency-based, letting energy innovation work for us and maybe joining into a reimagined partnership with government to make that happen is, I think, a very wise energy policy to follow. And like I say, we're already engaged with the Biden administration on some of those concepts, and I look forward to their ideas as they advance.
Andrew Weisel, Analyst
Okay. I guess, maybe a different way to ask a similar question is you're very – you're ahead of schedule as far as your interim carbon emission reduction goal for 2030. Do you see opportunity to accelerate the net zero target from 2050 currently?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Sure. I think it really is a matter, though, of working with our local jurisdictions in each of the states. To do that in a wise manner. So we'll be doing that.
Andrew Weisel, Analyst
Okay, great. And one unrelated question. On dividends, the growth has obviously been fairly modest at $0.08 or about 3% per year. I recognize the high current payout ratio, but you talked about the Vogtle penalties going away in 12 and 24 months and then the 5% to 7% earnings growth thereafter. What's your current thinking on the outlook for dividend growth once we're past the Vogtle construction?
Tom Fanning, CEO
So of course, that's a decision of the Board, and we'll make obviously recommendations to the Board. But you guys can do the math as well as we do. And I'm looking at my friend, Drew Evans, right now and kind of laughing. I have a certain half-life with my career here. Certainly, as we grow into this long-term earnings guidance that we've put before you, one of the choices that I think the people that follow me will be able to make very easily will be whether to take the dividend payout ratio down perhaps below 70% or whether to increase the rate of growth of dividends per share. That is certainly a strategic option on the table. But we'll carry that with the Board at the right time.
Drew Evans, CFO
Yes. I want to emphasize that we are very careful about our creditworthiness. Our focus is on ratings and discussions with rating agencies, especially regarding the construction at Vogtle. We believe it is wise to keep dividend growth at a modest level until we complete the significant construction efforts in Augusta. Once we finish the Vogtle project and any associated risks are resolved, and our credit metrics begin to improve to levels more in line with our historical performance, we will reevaluate our dividend policy. Additionally, we will assess our target credit rating. Southern has typically maintained a stronger position compared to peers in periods without headline risk and when credit conditions were somewhat better than they are now. These factors will all be important as we move forward.
Tom Fanning, CEO
And consistent with what Drew just said, we typically say it on every call, we didn't say it yet, one of the other outcomes of this reset and moving to these higher rates, not just earnings per share growth improvement, cash flow improvement is pretty significant, over $800 million in increased cash flow per year.
Andrew Weisel, Analyst
Terrific. Thank you very much.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan. Please go ahead sir.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hi, Jeremy. How are you?
Jeremy Tonet, Analyst
Hi, good. Thanks for having me. Good afternoon.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Good afternoon.
Jeremy Tonet, Analyst
Just want to reach out to the 2024 guidance as you laid out there. And thinking about Georgia, the Georgia Power ROE and recovery of Vogtle overspend. If you could paint any kind of broad strokes on what assumptions might be baked in on those two items into your guidance there?
Tom Fanning, CEO
We're always, I think, reasonably cautious and relatively conservative on our guidance. The only thing I would just say is that for the system, it is a reasonable estimate of what we expect to earn across the system. We're not pushing numbers in order to hit those ranges.
Jeremy Tonet, Analyst
Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe just one on 2021 itself guidance there implies, kind of, a smaller step up year-over-year. Are there any meaningful drivers to this outside of Vogtle ROE penalty?
Drew Evans, CFO
No. I would say that the Vogtle ROE penalty is the single largest driver that depresses earnings in 2021, almost $0.24 a share related to our constructions there, very consistent with an agreement that was reached with the commission a couple of years ago.
Jeremy Tonet, Analyst
Very helpful. That’s it for me. Thanks.
Tom Fanning, CEO
You bet.
Drew Evans, CFO
Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. And we now have a question from the line of Michael Lapides with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hi, Michael. How are you?
Michael Lapides, Analyst
I’m well. Thank you for taking my question. There's been some interesting dynamics at the FERC with some of the utilities having made filings regarding having the FERC review potentially a grid operator-like structure in the Southeast. Can you just give your views on where you think that's going? What do you think the point is? What do you think the consensus is? You talked a little bit about the difference between regulated markets and the merchant power markets. And it just made me think of having seen a little bit of those filings and trying to understand where the long-term goal is.
Tom Fanning, CEO
The long-term goal is for us to not break what's working. And so when you look at these markets down here, we've been able to provide for clean, safe, reliable power for decades for our customers' benefit. And the data just overwhelmingly supports that. When you look at the so-called organized markets, I think there's a certain amount of chaos in those markets where I think, originally, people with great goodwill thought they would reap great benefits. I don't think the risk-return that we see in those markets benefits customers at all. You know recently, we've submitted, we think, even an improvement to our own wholesale markets. That is the same effort, which frankly, is a model that allows us to benefit renewables, particularly solar in a more efficient way, and it broadens the market to bring in people like Duke and TVA and others. And so we've broadened the market. I think we've made it more attractive to renewables because we believe that renewables are going to be really important as we transition the fleet. We'll continue to seek ways to improve our markets over time, but they're working well. I can't believe anybody would find the wisdom to throw that out right now.
Michael Lapides, Analyst
Got it. Thank you, Tom. Much appreciate it.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Yes, sir. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. We now have a question from the line of Paul Fremont with Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead.
Tom Fanning, CEO
Hello, Paul. Great to hear from you.
Paul Fremont, Analyst
Great talking with you. My first question is a pretty technical question. For Southern Power, are the targeted investments inclusive of tax equity, or are the – or does that represent your share of what you are planning on spending?
Drew Evans, CFO
I would say that today, this represents our share. But as we evaluate all of these projects and as they go into commercial operation, we've looked at a number of alternatives or ways to optimize the returns that we receive there. This 1.3 actually represents all capital being deployed at Southern Power.
Tom Fanning, CEO
And I think the big chunk of that is a wind deal. There is a little bit of a storage deal. The wind deal, we kind of like. It's got the 10-year profile. Where we did a lot of the tax equity, I guess, was on the solar. We had the big pop in one year, and we didn't particularly like the impact of all that in our financials.
Drew Evans, CFO
So Southern Power is an animal. I would say that rather than us trying to define an amount of capital that we're interested in deploying there, projects tend to draw capital from the parent when they can meet certain criteria. Many of the things that we found over the last couple of years have been largely in the solar – I'm sorry, in the wind arena because we're able to find better contract terms, better contract counterparties, and construction risk is generally handled by others. And we've been pretty fortunate, I think, the last couple of years this particular plan includes a couple of identified wind transactions. And as Tom said, two battery transactions in the California marketplace where we're building attendant to our own solar, and that will give us a tremendous amount of experience in attaching storage to solar that we'll look at deploy across the balance of fleet and in other locations.
Paul Fremont, Analyst
Great. And then my second question, if I go back to staff testimony, I think what they were suggesting back in the fall was that you guys were hoping to get all of your ITAAC – remaining ITAAC approvals done by March, which would have been like over 240. But now when we get to mid-March, which is the start date of your hot functional testing, they'll still be about 200 that you need to get in hand based on the numbers that you provided today.
Tom Fanning, CEO
That's right.
Paul Fremont, Analyst
What gets you to, sort of, accelerate the level of ITAAC approvals to such a high extent to allow you to load the fuel in July?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Absolutely. Thank you for highlighting that important matter. We believe we have made significant progress with the NRC throughout the duration of this project. We have reduced the number of ITAACs from around 875 to approximately 4.25. Additionally, we have implemented the UIN process, which involves filing the form and substance of an ITAAC for approval. This means we now just need to complete the details regarding the results of a test. By collaborating constructively with the NRC, I am confident that once we establish the systems needed to submit the results for the ITAAC, the process will proceed smoothly. The NRC has been very supportive, and we have personnel from the NRC on-site working with us to ensure everything goes as planned. The challenge is not the ITAACs themselves. The challenge lies in completing the systems, managing the turnover appropriately, and ensuring that the necessary documentation is in order so we can input the required values for the ITAACs and submit them. I mentioned this during our last call, emphasizing that referring to it as "paper" might seem oversimplified. This process involves having engineers present who will assess the as-built condition of the plant, align it with the design basis, and ensure it meets our standards, which is indeed time-consuming and complex. The key focus is to guarantee quality, as this will facilitate a successful ITAAC process and also enhance the efficiency of our upcoming hot functional testing.
Paul Fremont, Analyst
Okay. Regarding COVID-19, there have been discussions suggesting that the long-term economic impact could be significant. When considering your plans and utilities in general, it’s not common to think that growth would be affected by this situation or that there would need to be major changes if the economy shifts because of COVID-19. Is that essentially the way to understand this?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Paul, let’s Drew and I tank this one. Let me go first and I'll shut up and let you go. But here's what I see. From my past – to the Fed, I'd love to break the industrial segment, particularly as a great leading indicator into 10 big segments for Southern. And then not only do I look at period-versus-period results. Virtually all of it is still negative compared to a year ago, obviously, pre-COVID. But the momentum statistics are really illuminating now, and they have turned positive. So of the 10 segments that make up something like 80% of our industrial sales, eight of them from a momentum standpoint are turning positive. So that tells me, and with a quote that has been put out there by me in the past, America is learning to live with COVID. A, I think COVID incidences are starting to decline. Maybe that's the normal sign wave we see from any surge, which we just went through. And maybe it's the longer-term effect of getting more people vaccinated. Didn't the Biden administration say recently, they want everybody vaccinated by July or sometime this summer? So surely, that will have an impact. But the economic data I see would show a recovery, I don't know, down 3% last year, maybe up 2% to 3% this year, with industrial starting to respond in a favorable manner.
Drew Evans, CFO
Yes, I always worry about the long-term implications of situations like this because the pressure we put on those at the margins, or the pressure from COVID on those at the margins, will become apparent. We have been waiting for COVID to end for about ten months now. It will be interesting to see the outcome. Our expectations regarding the impact on our specific customers turned out to be quite different from what we anticipated initially. We expected that usage by retail customers would rise as people spent more time at home. We thought industrial production would hold steady, possibly decline a little, but not as dramatically as it has, and we anticipated that commercial customers would face the greatest challenges. The results were very different. Most commercial customers found new ways to operate, while industrial production did experience a period of reduced output as companies managed their inventories. We have now observed a tightening in supply across several industrial segments, and production is beginning to increase. There have always been a few weak segments over the past few months, but as Tom noted today, the overall momentum is positive. We're encouraged that businesses have adapted to earn profits in ways they might not have predicted two years ago. However, I always remain concerned that the longer a situation persists, the more pressure it will put on those at the margins.
Tom Fanning, CEO
In quick punchy stats, non-pharma employment fell nationally 6.2%. In the southeast, it was only 1.7%. Last year, in our territory, we had record job creation, best we've ever done. We're seeing an increase. I want to say the increase in jobs projected in our economic development group that we're showing that's kind of our headlights up 17%. And then you see events like Microsoft coming in developing Atlanta as their third hub. There are other hubs being, of course, Seattle and San Francisco or Silicon Valley. Look, I'm not going to paint a super rosy picture, but I will say the southeast is really resilient. What's down right now? Chemicals are down mostly. We see that is driven by a large outage in particularly one plant in Alabama.
Drew Evans, CFO
And some global demand for chemical, which might change the marginal economics of a single facility for sure.
Tom Fanning, CEO
And what kind of looks bright, it looks like pipeline, especially as we start seeing gas continue to displace coal, the pipes are doing pretty well.
Paul Patterson, Analyst
Okay, great. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Tom Fanning, CEO
You bet. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. And that will conclude today's question-and-answer session. Sir, are there any closing remarks?
Tom Fanning, CEO
Well, thank you. These are exciting times, and I know the folks around our system that made the system perform as well as they did in 2020, just a great debt of gratitude. And I want to commend specifically our recovered workers, particularly IBEW and the folks from the broad building trades all around the system, particularly at Plant Vogtle 3 and 4, the leadership of the IBEW, the leadership of the building trades, they are terrific business partners for us, and we could not have achieved this level of success without their great leadership and the great work of the folks that are members there. I really like the cards we have. I like the fact that we have a lot of optionality no matter what the future holds. And I think we've run this business over the past decade to leave it stronger than ever. We'll get through Vogtle 3 and look forward to the progress there. We'll get through Vogtle 4 next year, and we're off and running. Thanks, everybody, for your attention today, and we'll talk to you soon. That's all.
Operator, Operator
Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes The Southern Company fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. You may now disconnect. Thank you all once again. Have a great day.