Earnings Call Transcript
Tenable Holdings, Inc. (TENB)
Earnings Call Transcript - TENB Q3 2024
Operator, Operator
Greetings and welcome to Tenable's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. At that time, we ask that you please limit to one question. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Erin Karney. Thank you. You may begin.
Erin Karney, Host
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us on today's conference call to discuss Tenable's third quarter 2024 financial results. With me on the call today are Amit Yoran, our Chief Executive Officer; and Steve Vintz, our Chief Financial Officer. Prior to this call, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the quarter. You can find the press release on our IR website at tenable.com. We will make forward-looking statements during the course of this call, including statements related to our guidance and expectations for the fourth quarter and full year 2024 and 2025, growth and drivers in our business, changes in the threat landscape in the security industry, and our competitive position in the market. Growth in our customer demand for and adoption of our solutions, including Tenable One, cloud security and AI Aware, planned innovation and new products and services, and our expectations regarding long-term profitability and free cash flow. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated by these statements. You should not rely upon forward-looking statements as a prediction of future events. Forward-looking statements represent our beliefs and assumptions only as of today and should not be considered representative of our views of any subsequent date, and we disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statements or outlook. For a further discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to those contained in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports that we file with the SEC. In addition, all of the financial results we discuss today are non-GAAP financial measures with the exception of revenue. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. There are a number of limitations related to the use of these non-GAAP financial measures versus their closest GAAP equivalent. Our press release includes GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations for these measures. I'll now turn the call over to Amit.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Thank you, Erin. We delivered strong results for the quarter, surpassing expectations on both the top and bottom line, including a record quarter for unlevered free cash flow. Tenable One and Cloud Security continue to drive strong demand as customers increasingly adopt our exposure solutions and are laser-focused on exposure management. Many of the trends we saw across our business in Q2 continued to play out in Q3. Tenable One, our exposure management platform and cloud security were top spending priorities for customers in the quarter. We closed many deals for both offerings across geographies and a wide range of industries. A healthy percentage of our customers are evolving on to Tenable One and embarking on the exposure management journey with us. We believe this adoption of our platform is a precursor to a follow-on sale and a broader, more strategic relationship with Tenable. Within Tenable One, identity and cloud security continue to be top areas of adoption for our customers as they look for analytics they can't find elsewhere. As a result, Tenable One is growing well in excess of our overall growth rate and accounted for approximately 30% of new sales in Q3. Other areas of strength in the quarter included the public sector and mid-market. We anticipated Q3 to be a stronger year-end for Fed business based on historical experience, and that played itself out as expected. In addition to a strong Fed quarter, we closed some cloud deals in the broader public sector. This speaks to both the diversification of product and customer base that we can leverage in this theater. As mentioned, another area of strength for the quarter was mid-market. We have a fairly broad definition of mid-market customers, and we're seeing meaningful traction in the higher end of that range, specifically companies approaching 5,000 employees. In fact, we closed our first 7-figure mid-market deal in Q3. This deal was primarily Tenable One with multiple asset types licensed, unlocking the power of the platform. Similar to the enterprise counterparts, these customers have complex environments that benefit from the visibility and actionable insights our products deliver. This is resulting in good demand for Tenable One as more of these companies look to a single vendor to consolidate their stack while maintaining a sophisticated approach to security. Conversely, some of the headwinds we previously called out, including longer sales cycles with additional scrutiny in new business and large VM deals, persisted. However, we did see some stabilization in VM relative to Q2. Importantly, pipe build, particularly among large deals, continues to see solid traction which we believe indicates a lot of opportunity. In addition to traction with Tenable One, we're seeing consistent demand for our cloud security product. Tenable Cloud Security continues to be our fastest-growing product and has average selling prices coming in twice as high as our other products. Customers need to monitor the health of cloud-native applications as a whole rather than individually monitoring cloud infrastructure. Our unified cloud offering brings an overall view to our customers. Further, it identifies priority risks and provides immediate insights into where they should focus their remediation efforts. We are winning landmark deals often against some of the most predominant players in the space, validating our ability to compete and win in the cloud market. As customers' cloud environments expand and get more complex, we continue to innovate at an aggressive pace. We recently released new data security posture management and artificial intelligence security posture management capabilities for Tenable Cloud Security. By extending exposure management capabilities to cloud data and AI resources, Tenable's Cloud Security CNAPP offering expands into some of our customers' greatest areas of concern. With the rapid rise of AI adoption, many organizations have jumped on board without fully considering essential safeguards around cybersecurity, privacy, and compliance. To address that challenge, we've begun rolling out AI Aware in Q3. AI Aware detects misconfigurations and unauthorized AI software, libraries, and plug-ins, all without interrupting customers' daily operations. In the eight weeks since its launch, many of our customers have already started using AI Aware. With AI Aware, our customers can confidently and securely use AI in their business, knowing how to better handle AI-related risks. AI Aware is another example of how Tenable One enables customers to quickly and easily assess new and evolving areas of the attack surface. Most organizations operate in a hybrid environment with data and applications spread across multiple systems, both on-premise and in the cloud. When the customer wants to understand where an exposure might reside in their systems, they can turn to Tenable to determine areas that are at risk and most importantly, uncover risks as they traverse between these environments. We believe this is a huge competitive advantage for us. Whether the customer is on-prem using private or public cloud or in some cases, even looking to repatriate some of their workloads, they need to feel confident that they have solutions that work across silos and can track and mitigate risks across these heterogeneous environments. And we're not slowing down. We are continuing to lean in on the areas that matter most to our customers. Our focus on the entire hybrid threat differentiates Tenable and is key to how we win against large and formidable competitors across the business. I'd like to spend a few minutes talking about an underlying transformation as we move from a primarily VM focused business to our broader exposure management offerings. Exposure solutions now constitute over 50% of new sales and over 35% of total sales. We also looked at our business in terms of total assets licensed to better understand how customers are deploying Tenable One and for what use cases. At this point, non-VM exposure solutions represent 20% of our total licensed assets. Non-VM exposure solutions are growing at nearly 30%, led by PATH Security, which is growing at approximately 100%. There are two key takeaways that we believe validate our strategy and set us up for continued success going forward. First, Tenable One has become our flagship product and is the primary way our customers want to consume licenses for all asset types, including VM with enhanced analytics. The second key takeaway is that cloud and identity, our primary growth drivers, are growing at very healthy rates and are increasingly meaningful portions of our business. We are effectively deploying capital by investing in key areas of innovation to help our customers solve some of the toughest problems they are facing. We're doing this while also balancing growth with profitability and delivering strong cash flow. Given the efficiency of our model, we're happy to announce that our Board has approved an additional $200 million to our share buyback program. We believe in the incredible opportunity in front of us and look forward to continue to execute on our vision. I'd now like to turn the call over to Steve.
Steve Vintz, CFO
Thanks, Amit. Overall, we're very pleased with our execution this quarter, highlighted by better-than-expected calculated current billings and earnings. Calculated Current Billings, defined as revenue recognized in the quarter plus the change in current deferred revenue, grew 11% year-over-year to $248.4 million. CCB came in slightly better than expected in the quarter due to strength in our exposure management platform and the increased adoption in our cloud security offerings. Tenable One was approximately 30% of total new sales in the quarter with many 6 and 7-figure wins from large enterprises in the telecommunications, transportation, medical technology, and cloud infrastructure industries. These marquee wins are a clear indication of our ability to provide large and sophisticated customers with a trusted platform that unifies and assesses the first aspects of exposure data and allows Chief Information Security Officers to make data-driven, risk-based decisions. We believe Tenable One provides a significant and compelling opportunity for us to continue to land new customers and expand relationships with existing customers at notably higher price points. Today, approximately one third of our total six-figure customers are Tenable One customers, and we are only 10% penetrated into our total enterprise platform customer base. So the takeaway is that we are seeing meaningful momentum with our exposure management platform, and we believe there's a lot of runway for continued growth. As Amit commented earlier, cloud security was also a major highlight for us with many notable wins from large organizations and public sector customers, both in the U.S. and abroad, as well as state and local government agencies. We attribute the approximately 100% year-over-year growth in this newer market to the strength of our integrated CNAPP offering and our ability to help customers of all sizes, visualize exposures, misconfigurations, and access for workloads across hybrid environments. We are also pleased to see VM stabilize this quarter with outperformance in the mid-market and a maturing pipeline in the large market. Finally, I also want to note that current RPO growth was 12% year-over-year. Turning to other highlights, we added 386 new enterprise platform customers and 60 net new 6-figure customers during the quarter. Our net dollar expansion rate was 108% this quarter. Our renewal rates remained strong. Now, on to the P&L for the quarter. Revenue was $227.1 million, which represents 13% year-over-year growth. Revenue in the quarter exceeded the midpoint of our guidance by $4.1 million. Our percentage of recurring revenue remained high at 96% this quarter. I'll now turn to expenses. I'll start with gross margin which was 81% this quarter, down 20 basis points from last quarter and in line with our expectations. Our gross margin reflects the continued investment in our cloud infrastructure to essentially scale our exposure platform and CNAPP offerings. We would characterize the incremental investments in the quarter as semi-fixed costs versus variable, which should yield some leverage in gross margins over time. Sales and marketing expense was $83.1 million, down from $84.8 million last quarter and as a percentage of revenue was 37% compared to 38% last quarter. Sales and marketing expense was lower sequentially on an absolute dollar basis, primarily due to the seasonality of marketing program spend in Q2 and higher levels of sales rep productivity in the quarter, offset in part by higher commissions. Overall, we are driving greater efficiency in our go-to-market efforts this year as we successfully adapt to selling a broader product suite and close large deals. As a result, sales and marketing spend as a percentage of revenue has decreased significantly by 730 basis points since 2022. Looking ahead, we expect sales and marketing spend as a percentage of revenue will continue to trend lower over time. R&D expense was $35.6 million which was up from $33.4 million last quarter. R&D expense was higher this quarter in comparison to last quarter due to a full quarter of engineering headcount costs related to the acquisition of Eureka and less capitalized software development costs related to our recently enhanced analytics for exposure management. R&D expense as a percentage of revenue was 16% this quarter, up 60 basis points compared to last quarter. G&A expense was $21.1 million which was up from $19.6 million last quarter. G&A expense as a percentage of revenue was 9% this quarter and is flat relative to last quarter. Income from operations was $45 million and exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range by $2 million. Operating margin for the quarter was 20%, which was 50 basis points better than the midpoint of our guidance range. We believe the notable outperformance in earnings this quarter reflects the strength of our recurring revenue model, the resiliency of our customer base, and our ability to balance growth with profitability. Overall, we are very pleased with our ability to continue driving leverage in the business as operating margins have increased from 10% for the full year 2022 to 15% for 2023 to 20% this quarter. EPS for the quarter was $0.32, which was $0.03 better than the midpoint of our guided range. Now, let's turn to the balance sheet. We finished the quarter with $548 million in cash and short-term investments. Accounts receivable was $193 million and total deferred revenue was $747 million. Current deferred revenue was $584 million which gives us a lot of visibility into expected revenue over the next 12 months. We generated a record $60.8 million of unlevered free cash flow during the quarter, which is up compared to $36.5 million last quarter. On a year-to-date basis, we generated $152 million of unlevered free cash flow, which puts us well within reach to achieve the $225 million to $235 million annual guide we provided last quarter. Recall, we do not guide to unlevered free cash flow quarterly but instead, we do it at the beginning of the year and at the midpoint of the year, which was during our call in July. We feel confident that we can continue to expand our operating and free cash flow margins over the ensuing years as we have done so every year since our IPO. With the results of the quarter behind us, I'd like to discuss our outlook for Q4 and the full year. For the fourth quarter, we currently expect revenue to be in the range of $229 million to $233 million. Non-GAAP income from operations to be in the range of $47 million to $49 million. Non-GAAP net income to be in the range of $42 million to $44 million, assuming interest expense of $7.8 million, interest income of $6 million, and a provision for income taxes of $3.1 million. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $0.33 to $0.35, assuming 125.5 million fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding. And for the full year, we currently expect Calculated Current Billings to be in the range of $957 million to $967 million, revenue to be in the range of $893.3 million to $897.3 million. Non-GAAP income from operations to be in the range of $171.8 million to $173.8 million. Non-GAAP net income to be in the range of $149.9 million to $151.9 million, assuming interest expense of $32.1 million, interest income of $23.5 million, and a provision for income taxes of $12.3 million. And finally, non-GAAP diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $1.21 to $1.23, assuming 123.5 million fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding. Earlier, Amit highlighted some of the underlying growth drivers of our business related to the accelerated adoption of our exposure solutions. The takeaway here is that we believe we have a very compelling opportunity in front of us to drive growth higher over time as exposure solutions become a larger part of our overall mix. Consistent with past practice, we will provide our guidance for 2025 during our call next February, but at a high level, it's fair to assume that our growth next year will be approaching the midpoint of our implied CCB growth for the fourth quarter of this year. It's also worth noting that we are on track to deliver the $280 million to $290 million of unlevered free cash flow target in 2025 that we previously provided. Due to our strong operating leverage and increasing free cash flow generation, we're very pleased to announce today a $200 million increase to our share repurchase program, which demonstrates our commitment to effectively deploy and return capital to our shareholders. We have confidence in our ability to drive continued leverage in our business and deliver 35%-plus unlevered free cash flow margins over time. I will now turn the call back to Amit for some closing comments.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Thanks, Steve. In summary, we're happy with where we are in our journey to becoming the exposure management company. We are very encouraged by the progress in Cloud and Tenable One and look forward to long-term success. We hope to see you at the Wells Fargo and Barclays conferences in the coming weeks. We now like to open the call up for questions.
Operator, Operator
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from Saket Kalia with Barclays.
Saket Kalia, Analyst
Good to hear from everybody on the team. Steve, maybe for you just to start with you. It was great to hear that exposure management makes up about 35% of total revenue. Could you just maybe touch on how fast that grew this quarter? And maybe how you think about that growth going forward, broadbrush?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Saket, this is Steve. Good question. A couple of things. First, what we said was exposure solutions now constitute over 50% of new sales and over 35% of total sales. So that is based on sales of individual product SKUs when we mentioned exposure solutions as a whole; it includes Tenable One and sales of our stand-alone non-VM products. Additionally, we also look at our business in terms of assets licensed to better understand how customers are actually deploying Tenable One and for what use cases. Our non-VM solutions on asset bases are growing 30% and represent 20% of our total sales. So this reflected some total of all assets licensed by our customers for our exposure solutions, both on a stand-alone basis and through the platform. So just to be clear, it does not include any VM assets licensed within the platform.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. And I think that's helpful because it really helps us understand the traction that we're seeing within our solutions both as a platform and then also in terms of individually licensed assets, where we're seeing the growth and where we're seeing the adoption by the customers.
Saket Kalia, Analyst
Yes, absolutely. Much faster growth in those non-VM apps for sure. I mean maybe that's a natural segue for you. Cloud security just feels like a very clear rising tide. Maybe the question for you is, how do you feel about the breadth of Tenable's offering here? And where do you think your cloud security portfolio goes in the future?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. We're very excited about our cloud security offering. And you characterized it as all things rising with the tide. I do think this is a large market. It's a rapidly growing market. I think there's tremendous opportunity. I think above and beyond that, we're seeing and demonstrating success in competitive situations, where we now have a lot of confidence going toe-to-toe against market leaders and winning our fair share of those transactions. We don't have to do crazy things. I know there's a lot of concern; we don't have to do crazy things from a discounting or packaging perspective. I think the competitiveness of our offerings speaks for itself. We've broadened the offering to be a full CNAPP capability. We've recently announced the addition of data security posture management. We've also added AI security posture management things that we think make us highly competitive and on the leading edge of where this market is going. And we're seeing the adoption from our customers.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Hamza Fodderwala with Morgan Stanley.
Hamza Fodderwala, Analyst
Steve, I wanted to just understand a little bit related to your guidance philosophy around Q4 and 2025. So by my math, it sounds like you're guiding to about implied 8% to 9% CCB growth for Q4. Is that roughly how we should consider 2025? And related to that guidance, I'm just curious what you're assuming around budget flush in Q4, what you're seeing in your pipeline? Is it more or less conservatism or something that you're seeing in the business that makes you a bit more concerned?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Sure. So our full-year CCB guide today is $957 million to $967 million. That does suggest that there is 8% to 9% implied growth in the fourth quarter. And just unpack that a little bit, our guide assumes that exposure solutions continue to see outsized growth. Amit talked about how 20% of our business is in terms of assets and is growing 30%. So we expect that level of growth going forward. It also reflects some moderation in the growth of VM. We feel like these are good expectations to have certainly in the short term. And as we talked about on the call earlier, we also reflect these are our exit velocity here in terms of growth in CCB, it's fair to have those expectations for the full year next year. We'll give our guidance in February. But obviously, it's a fair expectation to have now. Pipeline overall is healthy and we continue to add lots of new opportunities in the top funnel for both exposure solutions and VM. Moreover, we're pleased with the size but also the shape and the maturity of the pipe as we have many large late-stage opportunities. So overall, we're pleased with the results of the quarter. We feel like we have good expectations going forward and with regard to growth of both exposure solutions and VM.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Brian Essex with JPMorgan.
Brian Essex, Analyst
I think you mentioned before that you might have adjusted some of the incidents related to the federal business. This time last year, there were revenue recognition issues that affected that. Can you clarify how those changes have impacted federal execution this quarter? What should we anticipate over the next year?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. We anticipated that Q3 to be our seasonally strong quarter in U.S. Federal. And I think it played out pretty much as expected. As you noted, last year, we had some unusual twists in the federal business. We didn't see anything in that nature this year.
Brian Essex, Analyst
Got it. And then maybe a quick follow-up for Steve. As you're kind of pretty much had 20% operating margins, you've delivered certainly some pretty healthy operating margin expansion consistently over the past few years. In light of the growth outlook, can you maybe help us understand how you think of the guardrails of margin expansion versus growth and how we might expect margin expansion to progress going forward given the growth outlook that you have?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Sure. Since going public, we've consistently increased our margins each year, achieving improved operating margins and free cash flow. For instance, our operating margins were 10% in 2022, 15% in 2023, and this quarter, they stand at about 20%. Our free cash flow margins are following a similar upward trend, and we've set a long-term target for them to reach over 35%. We’re confident in our ability to continue enhancing our business leverage. With 96% recurring revenue, over 80% growth margins, and a strong net and gross dollar renewal rate, we’re seeing excellent traction with our expanding product portfolio. Additionally, while we’re investing more, with R&D spending nearing 30% this quarter, we’re becoming more efficient in sales and marketing, reducing that to roughly 36% of revenue from 42% last year. Overall, we believe we are effectively managing our capital, fostering innovation, and gradually increasing our margins. We expect to expand margins by several hundred basis points each year, potentially even more depending on growth, but we'll need to see how the upcoming year unfolds.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Joel Fishbein with Truist Securities.
Joel Fishbein, Analyst
You talked about early traction. I know it's early days with AI Posture Management and AI Aware. I'd love to hear and understand how you are pricing these products and what the competition looks like in those markets?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. With AI Aware, we're experiencing significant early adoption and enthusiasm. A large number of customers are now actively using it. Our monetization mainly comes from increased usage and asset counts, and the same applies to AI Security Posture Management.
Joel Fishbein, Analyst
And the competitive environment around that, if anything?
Amit Yoran, CEO
I think if you look at AI Security Posture Management, you are seeing a small number of other market-leading CNAPPs coming to market with similar capability, but there's a pretty large gap between those of us leading the market and a large number of others just providing either traditional CSPM or a much lighter cloud capability which don't include anything like AI Security Posture Management.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Mike Cikos with Needham & Company.
Michael Cikos, Analyst
And I just wanted to continue on that thread that Joel was teasing at. But we similarly talk about the pricing dynamics for Enclave Security? I know that's an annuity to the portfolio here. I just wanted to make sure I was checking up on the pricing and competitive dynamics for that product as well.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. With Enclave Security, it's very similar to how we previously priced our other on-prem offering. So we license them on a per IP address or per asset basis. In this case, I think it's per IP address, and customers would license the number of addresses that they're trying to cover.
Michael Cikos, Analyst
Got it. I want to circle back to last quarter's guidance. One of the points implied was that there were headwinds related to new business, especially with vulnerability management in North America. The guidance reduction was justified as a more cautious approach, indicating that the trend for new business in VM reflected broader challenges across all of Tenable. I'm looking to clarify how new business has trended for Tenable, both in VM and outside of it, to ensure we're accurately assessing those two areas.
Steve Vintz, CFO
Sure. Well, I think it's fair to say that new business is tougher to transact in this macro, but we're very pleased to be adding nearly 400 new logos this quarter. And of course, the number of customers added in the quarter can be influenced by a number of factors, including the size of the deals, but we typically add between 300 and 500 a quarter, and this quarter was no different. I think the word that Amit used earlier to describe VM this quarter was stable and stabilized. And so we're very pleased to see execute this quarter. We're pleased with the results of the quarter. It's obviously CCB and revenue came in slightly better than expected. So overall, we're encouraged with what we see but we also know that we have a lot of large opportunities in the funnel. We'll be working hard to close those. But overall, I would just describe it as modestly better than what we experienced in the last quarter.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Jonathan Ho with William Blair.
Jonathan Ho, Analyst
Congrats on the strong results. Just wanted to follow-up a little bit on the Tenable One platform. And can you help us understand do you typically get a lot of the benefits from new asset types upfront? Or does it take a little bit of time for that to translate? And maybe can you help us understand how Tenable One maybe affects your ASPs as well?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes, that's a great question, Jonathan. The short answer is that this will develop over time. Initially, we'll observe a higher price per asset, typically 20% to 25% more when purchasing coverage through Tenable One compared to standalone VM. This increase is largely due to enhanced analytics, Lumina exposure views, Attack Path Analytics, and features not found in traditional VM products. Following this, we anticipate additional increases from the expansion of asset types or a broader coverage of assets. For instance, a customer who starts their exposure management journey with us by transitioning from VM to Tenable One can often expand to cover identities within their environment and assess access levels and the potential blast radius or indicators of attack. In summary, we expect initial uplift from the higher price per asset, followed by expanded asset coverage and types, leading to a 70% increase in realized average selling price.
Jonathan Ho, Analyst
Makes a ton of sense. And then just in terms of your stabilization comments, can you talk to maybe the pricing environment and the competitive environment? And whether you've seen some of these newer competitors start to gain any traction or whether things are relatively stable? Just want to get a sense around that stabilization from these angles?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Yes. From our viewpoint, the VM market has remained exceptionally stable. While we anticipate increased marketing activity from newer market entrants, we rarely encounter them in competitive scenarios where clients are seeking an enterprise VM product. When they do appear, our sales team is well-prepared and understands the key differentiators. Enterprise customers, who quickly evaluate products, tend to notice a significant quality difference in the experience and a measurable contrast in coverage with Tenable compared to both traditional and newer competitors. Therefore, we believe the competitive environment is stable, and we maintain very strong win rates against both established and new market players.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Patrick Colville with Scotiabank.
Patrick Colville, Analyst
I guess I just want to ask one about stock repurchase. I don't think there was any stock repurchase this quarter. But you guys announced an expansion of the repurchase authorization. So just I guess, talk me through why no repurchase this quarter? And then what's the philosophy around buybacks?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Yes. We did not repurchase stock this quarter, but we do plan to do so going forward. And of course, we're very pleased to announce a $200 million increase in the authorization for our share buyback program, which we think reflects our ongoing commitment to reduce share count and return capital to shareholders. There's no expiration to the increase in the authorization, but we do plan to do so opportunistically. So the amount that we buy back each and every quarter can vary, and obviously, we're very pleased to increase our commitment today on the buyback.
Patrick Colville, Analyst
And I guess my second question, if I may. Thank you for providing that kind of early look into 2025 of 8% to 9% current billings growth. I mean, there's a lot of kind of wind in Tenable sales with exposure management with cloud, with kind of ITDR, OT security. I guess when will these tailwinds be more reflected in numbers? If you could provide any color there, that would be super helpful.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. I think a number of things. First, we're obviously will provide guidance in the upcoming call. But more importantly, one of the things that I wanted to call out earlier was to put a little bit more transparency to our exposure solutions becoming an increasingly important strategic part of our business, and the increasing percentage of our revenue and they're growing at very healthy rates, and we think we're highly competitive in those win rates and growth rates, I think, are things that we'll be able to build upon and ideally expand going forward.
Steve Vintz, CFO
And just to be clear, we feel very confident that growth will reflect higher, of course, over time. We're not setting those expectations today. But over the years, we have broadened the product suite and evolved and diversified our business. And so 20% of our business today, growing 30%, it's very notable, and we have confidence that we'll be able to sustain that and compete in some of these really large market opportunities.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Gary Powell with BTIG.
Gary Powell, Analyst
Okay, great. Congrats on the results. It's good to see the stabilization. So maybe just to start off high level. Have you seen any uncertainty around the elections in the U.S. cause any impact on deal discussions or just have any impact on how customers were thinking about their security budgets? It doesn't look like it just from the results, but I'm curious if that came up at all this past quarter.
Amit Yoran, CEO
We have not had a lot of discussion with commercial clients or international clients about potential impacts of U.S. elections on security budget. Obviously, there's a lot of uncertainty in the federal space, and so we're taking that sort of cautious approach to our guide in the fourth quarter.
Gary Powell, Analyst
Okay, great. And then just more of like a housekeeping question for Steve. I just want to make sure I understand the disclosures correctly. When you call exposure management at 35% of total sales, is that a revenue number? Or is that more related to something like billings or bookings? I guess there's sort of a loose definition of sales when disclosing these metrics. I just want to make sure I'm thinking of it correctly.
Steve Vintz, CFO
Yes. In terms of sales, what we call that bookings internally.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Shaul Eyal with TD Cowen.
Shaul Eyal, Analyst
Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. My question, Amit or Steve, I know maybe it's a little too early given where we stand in the fourth quarter. But from where you sit, when you compare the seasonal budget flush. How would you characterize the current time?
Steve Vintz, CFO
I'm sorry, you were inaudible for a part of your question. Can you repeat that?
Shaul Eyal, Analyst
Sure. I was asking about seasonality in the fourth quarter. Again, a little too early at this point, given we're in the end of the first month of the quarter. But how would you characterize the seasonal budget flush this year versus last year?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Well, I think it's fair to say that we're not expecting any significant seasonal budget flush. Obviously, if that comes, there would be upside. And in terms of familiarity within the quarter, we're off to a good start in October. I would characterize the flow that we've experienced so far as unremarkable and consistent, should I say, more so with what we've experienced with prior quarters this year.
Shaul Eyal, Analyst
Understood. And maybe a follow-up from a geographic perspective, anything outstanding this quarter one way or the other?
Steve Vintz, CFO
No. We talked about on the last call a little bit of the experiment in the growth rates on some of the geographies. But this quarter, as we discussed, it was more stable and MAM was more consistent really across geographies. The one thing that I mentioned earlier that's probably worth noting now is just really the strength in the mid-market. This year, it's been an area of outperformance for us. We closed a $1 million deal there and we see a ton of opportunity there. And keep in mind the mid-market when we say mid-market, it's employees anywhere from 500 employees up to 5,000. So these are big companies. We're having great success there, telling the broader offering. We're getting great traction there and we have high expectations going forward.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Shrenik Kothari with Robert Baird.
Shrenik Kothari, Analyst
This is Shrenik from Baird. Starting with Steve, I'd like to follow up on your comments about outperforming the mid-market and closing the first $1 million deal in that segment. You mentioned the net dollar expansion rate, and I would appreciate it if you could elaborate on how to interpret the 108%, which is slightly lower than last quarter. Can you provide more insight into the factors influencing this, especially in relation to the new low expansion within the mid-market cohorts you mentioned, which includes larger organizations and enterprises? I'm also curious if this is related to other product segments and the strong growth in cloud security offerings. I have a follow-up question as well.
Steve Vintz, CFO
Okay. I think there's a question here about the net dollar expansion rate. And we provide a lot of transparency about our business on a quarterly basis. We disclosed a number of new customers, a number of net new 6-figure deals, large deals, the rate expansion within the customer base in a given quarter. And we do not optimize our business around a single metric. And these metrics, of course, can fluctuate naturally from quarter to quarter. That said, we did see a modestly lower rate of expansion this quarter which we largely attributed to timing and budgets on some large deals here. We did see strength in new businesses, as we've discussed. It was roughly 400 in the quarter. But what was remarkable about that is just some of the larger opportunities within that. So I think we're doing a good job. Landing at higher price points, obviously, giving the broader offering, giving the momentum in cloud, we talked about the ASPs and cloud out there are notably higher this year in comparison to last year and in comparison to some of our other products. So obviously, bigger alliances are going to be a big area of focus for us. And of course, we still have the expansion opportunity going forward here until but any given quarter, the expansion rate, the number of new logos, and net new 6-figure deals can vary within one another.
Shrenik Kothari, Analyst
Got it. Super helpful, Steve. And just a follow-up and Amit, feel free to chime in. On this traction in the mid-market, right, as you highlighted, these are big opportunities. And considering for upsell of the dynamics around their purchasing behaviors and just curious in terms of any trends that you observe with these customers in terms of how they're looking to consolidate the security vendors and how you guys are positioned as a one-stop shop there? And in any ways, how you might be adopting your sales, motions, pricing, or customer success. Just wanted to understand how you approach mid-market.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes, I think we are seeing some benefit from consolidation with our Tenable One platform. Folks are including VM as a more strategic approach to understanding exposure management. And if you talk to Gartner, if you look at some of the language they're using, VM is foundational to understanding exposure management and risk. And as such, we're seeing adoption of VM licenses with the enhanced analytics and as part of the Tenable One product purchase, which we think is very applicable and we're seeing great traction in the mid-market which, again, for us, can go up to fairly large organizations up to 5,000 employees. So we're seeing meaningful traction there. And it's also with our cloud security solution, where the sort of elegance of how the various aspects of our cloud security products are integrated into a unified platform are really appreciated perhaps especially in the mid-market, where they don't have all of the cloud security expertise and all the cloud security staffing that they're looking for us. So I think both Tenable One and Cloud Security become natural areas for outperformance for us in the mid-market.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Kingsley Crane with Canaccord Genuity.
Kingsley Crane, Analyst
Congrats on the quarter and this is sort of similar to Jonathan's question earlier. You talked about Tenable One garnering 20% to 25% premium per asset, also a much higher ASP on the back of more pervasive deployments. So the question is, as you add in more asset types like OT and more functionality to Lumin, how should we think about the growth in both price per asset as well as asset counting? Is there room for that premium per asset to increase? Or is this really an asset growth play?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. The short answer is that I believe there's room to expand along both of those dimensions. Certainly, when it comes to price per asset, we want to be sensitive to that. We're trying to move customers from procuring a standalone VM product or procuring the under standalone product to be willing to pay premium. In order to do that, we've enhanced and released in history, analytics as part of Tenable One as a platform, the attack path analytics, the Lumina exposure views, the benchmark in some of the functionality and capability there. We think that there's lots of room to continue to add additional analytic types and generate more pricing leverage for Tenable One within the existing customer base and within the existing asset count. That said, we're still in the early days of penetrating on a massive customer base with a broader set of asset types. So when you pull Chief Security Officers out there and when you talk to many of our customers, there are many of them are even aware in ways that our offering has broadened. So I think we have to continue to do a more aggressive job marketing and bringing some of these new products to market and having, I think, the expansion of asset types and asset count growth is probably also a very natural way for Tenable One prices to continue or realize ASPs to continue to grow.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Roger Boyd with UBS.
Roger Boyd, Analyst
Amit, last quarter you mentioned that VM is facing cyclical challenges, and it appears you're still anticipating that in the fourth quarter. It seems a broader cyclical recovery isn't reflected in your initial outlook for 2025. Given this, what would give you greater confidence that these cyclical headwinds are easing? Is it simply the continuation of macro uncertainty in sales cycles, or is it more specifically related to the license capacity dynamics you've discussed previously?
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. Well, I think we're trying to take an approach here that sets us up for success going forward. The first comment I'll make is that, as you may poll and ask Chief Security Officers out there and security programs. What you will hear is that VM is absolutely foundational to what they do. Nobody is getting rid of, nobody's the VM program, nobody is reducing their VM program. What we have heard in recent periods is that they are as rapidly expanding their VM program as they have in previous periods. One of the things that would give me confidence that we're seeing improvement there is seeing customers expand the asset count of their VM program. What we are seeing is customers with VM requirements coming to us and saying, 'Hey, I'm willing to pay a higher ASP to procure VM through the Tenable One as a platform because understanding exposure management is more strategic to me. I want these enhanced analytics.' And so now 20% plus of our VM customers are coming to us and saying, 'Hey, we want to procure our VM program through Tenable One platform with these enhanced analytics.' So what we're trying to do is provide, 1, visibility into the continued confidence in the VM market but 2, the size, scope, and growth rate of our exposure solutions which are obviously. We've been talking about it a long time as the foundational stake that we're laying for our future as a company and the real momentum that we're seeing there.
Operator, Operator
Next question comes from Rudy Kessinger with D.A. Davidson.
Unidentified Analyst, Analyst
This is Andres on for Rudy. First of all, congrats on a fantastic quarter. I just wanted to ask a quick question. Last quarter, you said that you had longer sales cycles. Is there any update there that you can give us? Do you think that was partially affected by the CrowdStrike Cloud? Any commentary would be helpful.
Amit Yoran, CEO
Yes. I'll start off and then turn it over to Steve. We're seeing the same sales cycles continue as in previous quarters. I wouldn't say it's solely due to CrowdStrike, but we're also noticing ongoing contract negotiations with procurement teams pushing hard on terms and exploring opportunities for expanding the sales cycle. What we've observed this quarter and last quarter is likely to persist, and we've accounted for that in our guidance and expectations moving forward.
Steve Vintz, CFO
Yes. And there's no notable change in our sales cycles really from one quarter to the next. The one thing that's probably worth highlighting is the sales cycle is for Tenable One. Yes, Tenable One has higher selling prices, right? We talked about this 60% to 70% uplift to the range in which that happens, converting anywhere from 50 up to over 90%. So customers move from a stand-alone product into the platform. We're obviously getting higher selling prices. We're delivering incremental value on an asset basis and covering more assets across their attack surface through different asset types. So despite having those higher selling prices, we're actually seeing notably shorter sales cycles with the integrated offering. So, I think it speaks to the fact that customers certainly want to understand risk more broadly across their attack surface. They want to talk companies to deliver greater insights and exposure management is resonating. And obviously, industry analysts and others are taking note as well.
Operator, Operator
Our next question comes from Joshua Tilton with Wolfe Research.
Joshua Tilton, Analyst
Joshua, are you muted?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Does not sound like there is a question.
Operator, Operator
He is in the queue, but he may be muted. So, there is no other questions. So, I'm going to close the call, okay?
Steve Vintz, CFO
Sounds good. Thank you.
Operator, Operator
This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.