Call highlights
TMC reported Q4 2025 with $117.6M in total cash, a $40.4M net loss, and progress on its U.S. regulatory pivot, including a NOAA permit application deemed substantially compliant and key commercial terms agreed with Allseas targeting Q4 2027 commissioning. The company also advanced plans for a 12 Mtpa Brownsville, Texas processing hub and a strategic partnership with Mariana Minerals, while the Metals Royalty Co. (TMCR) is set to begin NASDAQ trading in April.
“Our consolidated application submitted to NOAA in January of this year has been deemed substantially compliant, and we expect our permit to be granted in less than 1 year from today. This permitting clarity also provides confidence to us and our partners to get building in anticipation of commercial production.”
“We look forward to signing this definitive agreement in the coming days and continue to progress towards system commissioning still targeted for Q4 2027.”
- NOAA permit application deemed substantially compliant, with permit expected in less than 1 year.
- Agreed key commercial terms with Allseas for the Hidden Gem system (nominal 3 million wet tonnes per annum), targeting Q4 2027 commissioning.
- Joined the Defense Industrial Base Consortium partnership within the Department of Defense.
- Exclusive negotiations for 1,466 acres at Port of Brownsville for a 12 Mtpa nodule processing and refining hub, with pre-feasibility study underway.
- Signed Strategic Partnership Agreement with Mariana Minerals to conduct feasibility work and develop AI-enabled process controls for the Brownsville facility.
- The Metals Royalty Co. (TMCR) to begin trading on NASDAQ under ticker TMCR in April, with a 2% gross royalty on the NORI area and TMC retaining a 25% equity stake and right to repurchase up to 75% of the royalty.
- Q4 2025 net loss of $40.4 million and operating loss of $44.7 million.
- Q4 2025 cash used in operations of $11.4 million.
- No capital commitments made for the Brownsville facility, with investment decision conditional on U.S. government support.
- CEO stated it is 'frustrating not being able to give more regular updates' due to messaging sensitivity.
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Metals Company Fourth Quarter 2025 Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Craig Shesky. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you very much. Please note that during this call, certain statements made by the company will be forward-looking and based on management's beliefs and assumptions from information available at this time. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, many of which may be beyond our control. Additionally, please note that the company's actual results may differ materially from those anticipated, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. Our remarks today may also include non-GAAP financial measures, including with respect to free cash flows and additional details regarding these non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our slide deck being used with this call. You're welcome to follow along with our slide deck or if joining us by phone, you can access it at any time at investors.metals.co. I'd now like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Gerard Barron. Gerard, please go ahead.
Thank you, Craig, and apologies to those on the line — we are a few minutes late; we were waiting for a wideband connection across the line. But welcome to you all. And before we get to the path forward, I'd like to take a moment to reflect on our journey over the last year. One year ago to the day in our fourth quarter earnings call, we announced a regulatory pivot that fundamentally changed our company's destiny. Instead of the uncertainty and gridlock of the ISA, we chose the certainty and clarity of the U.S. regulatory regime built upon a long-established legal framework under DSHMRA and catalyzed by the political will of this administration. In April, this political will was made evident by the executive — President Trump's executive order, unleashing America's offshore critical minerals and resources, which marked America's return to leadership in deep seabed minerals. Some of the directives in this EO have already been delivered, including the modernization of NOAA's permitting process.
Gerard, sorry to interrupt. Your line is cutting in and out.
Roadmap for operations in 2026, we focused on accelerated execution, starting with permitting. Our consolidated application submitted to NOAA in January of this year has been deemed substantially compliant, and we expect our permit to be granted in less than 1 year from today. This permitting clarity also provides confidence to us and our partners to get building in anticipation of commercial production. Offshore, we have reached commercial agreement on key terms with our long-term strategic partner, Allseas, and continue to progress the engineering work for the long lead items for our forthcoming production system, and we expect this agreement to be finalized in the coming days. Onshore, it's also clear that the U.S. wants to dominate the onshore processing and refining of polymetallic nodules, establishing a counter to China's stranglehold on the production of critical minerals. To do that will require support from the government itself, requisite infrastructure at the Port of Brownsville, Texas, and we have also reached agreement with our partner, Mariana Minerals to progress this feasibility work as part of the TMC owners team, but more on this shortly. Since day one, we knew success would depend on building a bench of exceptional partners with the expertise to tackle complex challenges and the conviction to back a new industry. And as this chart shows, we've brought together a strong group of experienced partners across the value chain, each bringing a unique skill set to our vision of reimagining the metals and mining sector. What's changed and what matters is momentum. Many of our existing partners have deepened their commitments, reinforcing their belief in the long-term opportunity. We're also welcoming new partners who share our belief that this industry will be built in the United States. That growing alignment is a clear validation of where this industry is heading. And as I mentioned earlier, we've agreed key commercial terms with Allseas to complete the development and operate the Hidden Gem offshore system, the first ever commercial nodule collection system. The continued strategic alliance, which will be formalized in the coming days, brings together Allseas' decades of offshore execution expertise with our proven resource, environmental and processing platform into a single integrated system, designed for a nominal capacity of 3 million wet tonnes per annum using the Hidden Gem, two collector vehicles and a vessel to transfer nodules to bulk carriers for shipment to shore. And Allseas are currently working on key long lead items like the riser, our launch and recovery systems and the umbilical. We look forward to signing this definitive agreement in the coming days and continue to progress towards system commissioning still targeted for Q4 2027. So one of the key actions outlined in last year's executive order was the directive for various government agencies to identify potential sources of financial support for this industry. And in order to unlock government support for onshore processing, there are a few boxes we must tick, including a site-specific plan and feasibility studies. And to that end, back in December last year, we secured an exclusive right over a potential lease option in the Port of Brownsville, Texas, near where plans have been recently announced by this administration for the first new U.S. oil refinery in decades, underscoring the broader momentum behind strengthening American industrial capacity. We've developed a preliminary master plan and a pre-feasibility study is already underway for a 12 million tonne per annum nodule industrial park. Of course, existing capital-light tolling options are still available to us, and we will not be committing any capital at this time. But I'm certainly excited about what a domestic nodule processing hub can mean for both new partnerships and for our project economics. Processed domestically, our nodule resource could single-handedly solve the American supply chain dependency across four key metals. And as I mentioned, one of the requirements to unlocking funding onshore is the preparation of a feasibility study for a processing plant at a specific site. To that end, we're adding a new strategic partner to our bench in Mariana Minerals. Mariana's CEO, Turner Caldwell, speaking at last year's Strategy Day, is someone we know well from his time at Tesla, where he headed up global battery metal supply. The Mariana team are pioneers of AI and software approaches to project development and metallurgical processing and have demonstrated their ability to fast-track project execution, which enabled Tesla to build its lithium plant in Texas in less than two years. The Mariana team will be joining as part of the TMC owners team, and we already enjoy a good working relationship with their team. Mariana's approach is core to how cutting-edge businesses like SpaceX and others operate. With AI, we think they can move even faster and believe their innovative model offers a faster, more modern approach to reindustrialization. And subject to further definitive agreements, we look forward to exploring how their systems could reduce permitting and construction timelines for a domestic plant while reducing OpEx and increasing recovery of payable metals. In fact, right after this call, our executive team will convene in Texas with the Mariana team for the next week to progress this mission-critical work, which is also a prerequisite for certain U.S. involvement. I'm also pleased to share that in April, just days away, The Metals Royalty Co. will begin trading on the NASDAQ under the ticker TMCR. A quick refresher: formed with the goal of onshoring critical minerals production in the U.S., TMCR has a 2% gross royalty on our NORI area, resulting from an agreement we signed with Low Carbon Royalties in 2023, and we retain the right to repurchase up to 75% of that royalty over time at a capped return, which could potentially reduce the royalty to just 0.5% of 1%. TMC also maintains a 25% equity stake in TMCR. Many TMCR faces will be familiar to our followers, including the current and former Board members, Michael Hess and Brian Paes-Braga, and with their backing and a strong team behind them, we see TMCR as a strategic vehicle which can potentially provide future options for capital and sizable project finance. I'd now like to turn the call over to Craig to discuss some industry updates, our regulatory path ahead and our financials.
Thanks, Gerard. One quick note that we shared actually in recent weeks on our social channels. We recently joined the Defense Industrial Base Consortium, DIBC, partnership within the Department of Defense and investment prioritization directed at our capabilities. This initiative gives the government the tools they need to pair commercial solutions that can help close supply chain vulnerabilities and strengthen the defense industrial base. And of course, critical minerals and seabed are focused for the U.S. and allies. And over the past year, we've seen investors and operators effectively vote with their feet, gravitating toward regulatory frameworks that offer clarity and a credible path to commercialization. While the ISA remains in gridlock, the U.S. has emerged as a leading jurisdiction and certain allies are relying upon the U.S. and certain areas of expertise to develop seabed resources. This shift is being echoed at the government level. In March, the U.S. and Japan announced a new critical minerals action plan with an explicit focus on accelerating cooperation on commercially viable deep sea mining. And against this backdrop, we remain the only seabed mineral developer with SEC-compliant mineral reserves, which is the clearest definition of commercial viability, positioning us at the forefront of this emerging industry. In January, NOAA finalized revisions to accelerate permitting under the Deep Seabed Hard Minerals Resources Act, introducing a consolidated application process that meaningfully streamlines the path to commercial recovery. TMC moved quickly to take advantage of that clarity, submitting the first consolidated application under this new framework. This application expands our expected commercial recovery area from 25,000 square kilometers to approximately 65,000 square kilometers and is designed to significantly reduce permitting timelines. Importantly, it reflects the strength of our technical readiness and our ability to meet NOAA requirements for commercial-scale operations. We see this as a clear signal that the U.S. regulatory path is active, predictable and capable of supporting responsible development. And now with more than 10 applications in the system, it is evident that the broader industry is aligning around the U.S. framework. Last time we updated you, we were progressing systematically through the NOAA permitting pathway, and that remains the case today even under this new consolidated path. With the consolidated application now active under NOAA's new rule, we have greater clarity on the process ahead and a clear line of sight on the key milestones required for final approval. Our experience over the last year, particularly through NOAA's review of our exploration licenses, has provided valuable insight into the process and expectations for both TMC USA and NOAA. We announced on March 9th that we passed the first of these milestones with NOAA determining our application to be substantially compliant and the next potential milestone being full compliance. Based on this progress and what we've learned, we now expect the grant of our commercial recovery permit within the next 12 months. To get to this point, it's taken over $700 million and hundreds of research days at sea, and we are now nearing the completion of our environmental impact statement — our EIS is complete. Informed by the largest environmental data set in history, over a petabyte in size, this comprehensive document reflects 15 years of scientific research conducted alongside leading institutions and demonstrates our ability to responsibly collect nodules using modern systems designed to maximize efficiency while minimizing environmental impact. Put simply, better science leads to better design and better design leads to better environmental outcomes. For those with a keen eye on our social media, you may have noticed that we've begun sharing key findings from our EIS publicly during a new video series, highlighting how our data addresses environmental concerns and how innovation has reduced our environmental footprint. I encourage you all to check this out; you can click on the PDF posted on our website to get to those videos directly or follow TMC on our social accounts, including Twitter and LinkedIn. We look forward to our EIS being made available for public comments soon as per NOAA's transparent and accountable process. As many of you know, and there may be some on the call who are with us in the room, we published a pre-feasibility study and initial assessment alongside our Strategy Day in New York last August. Covering our first production area, the PFS documented world-first reserves for a nodule project, demonstrating clear commercial viability. Our initial assessments covered everything else that you see in royal blue amongst our contract areas on this page. Keep in mind that neither of these comprehensive studies, which were signed off by multiple independent qualified persons, cover additional ground over which we now have priority right through the U.S. process. This is represented in the lighter gray on this page. Given the proximity of these areas to those covered in our published technical studies, we do believe that these areas support significant exploration upside. At current metal prices, shifting to project economics, it's clear that these projects are incredibly valuable. If you combine the $5.5 billion net present value of our pre-feasibility study and the $18.1 billion NPV for the initial assessment, you arrive at a total estimated resource of $23.6 billion. Over the life of both projects on an undiscounted basis, the study outlined revenue of approximately $369 billion, EBITDA in excess of $200 billion and a position in the first quartile of the cost curve as laid out in our PFS. However, despite the clear value of this high-quality and abundant resource and our expected low-cost positioning, our valuation does remain below comparable peer developers and explorers. On the left side of this page, you'll see the TMC valuation example where we're trading at about 8% of our underlying net present value, well below peer averages for explorers and developers and certainly below the average of nearly 1x NAV for nickel and copper producers. As we march toward a clear permitting path and commercial production, we are looking forward to a significant re-rating in this valuation story. On to liquidity: TMC reported a year-end 2025 cash balance of $117.6 million, and we expect at month end for March 31, 2026, to report approximately $110 million in cash. TMC liquidity, defined as cash plus borrowing capacity on our unsecured credit facility, stood at $162 million at year-end 2025 and is expected to be approximately $154 million around month end March 31, 2026. This means we have no imminent need to raise funds in the public markets. As discussed in our last several quarterly conference calls, however, we are filing a new Form S-3 shelf registration statement in conjunction with our upcoming 10-K as a matter of good corporate housekeeping, and we do intend at some point in the future to refresh our ATM. However, there has been no ATM use by the company since April of 2025. On to our financial results: In the fourth quarter of 2025, TMC reported a net loss of $40.4 million or $0.08 per share compared to a net loss of $16.1 million or $0.04 per share for the same period in 2024. The net loss for the fourth quarter of 2025 included exploration and evaluation expenses of $10.6 million versus $8.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. General and administrative expenses, or G&A, were $34.1 million versus $8.1 million G&A in the comparable quarter last year and a credit of $4.3 million from other nonoperating items versus a credit of $0.3 million from other nonoperating items in Q4 2024. Exploration and evaluation expenses increased by $2.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024, primarily resulting from an increase in share-based compensation due to accelerated amortization of awards granted in the third quarter of 2025, partially offset by lower mining, technological and process development costs resulting from decreased engineering work. G&A expenses increased by $26 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024, reflecting an increase in share-based compensation due to the accelerated amortization of awards granted to directors and officers in the third quarter of 2025 and an increase in legal, consulting and personnel costs. Other nonoperating items that reduced the net loss in Q4 2025 included higher interest income generated from our increased cash balances and a gain resulting from the dilution of our ownership interest in The Metals Royalty Co. as it completed a private placement to third parties at a price well in excess of book value. On free cash flow, the free cash outflow for the fourth quarter of 2025 was $11.5 million compared to $13.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. Net cash used in operating activities was $11.4 million compared to $13.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2024, primarily due to lower personnel and environmental payments, coupled with the interest earned on the higher cash balance in 2025 and partially offset by higher legal payments. Focusing on the full year basis for the cash flow: on a full year basis, free cash outflow for 2025 was $43.1 million compared to $44 million in 2024. Net cash used in operating activities was $42.9 million compared to $43.5 million in 2024, reflecting lower environmental and mining technological payments and interest earned on the higher cash balance in 2025, partially offset by higher underutilization fees paid on the unsecured credit facilities, timing of payment on regulatory fees and higher legal payments. Free cash flow is a non-GAAP measure, and I would point you to the non-GAAP reconciliation included in the slide deck. We believe that our cash on hand will be sufficient to meet our working capital and capital expenditure requirements for at least the next 12 months from today. Looking at the balance sheet over the course of 2025, there was a significant increase in the cash balance as the following funds were received: $85.2 million from the Korea Zinc investment, $41.2 million from other registered direct offerings, including the Hess family investment, $14.8 million from ATM use and $27 million from the exercise of various stock options and warrants. A portion of these proceeds was used to repay the $7.5 million Allseas working capital loan, along with other outstanding interest thereon as well as a $4.3 million draw on the ERAS/Barron unsecured credit facility. Our accounts payable and accrued liabilities as at December 31, 2025, were $46 million and include $34 million owed to Allseas for various services provided, the majority of which can be settled in equity. The $131 million increase in royalty liability was the result of the change in fair value following the company's release of two economic studies in August 2025, which increased the value of the NORI project. The significant increase in the warrant liability over 2025 was due to the increase in the fair value of private warrants, which reflected the significant increase in our share price. With that, operator, we'd now like to open the call up for some Q&A.
Our first question will come from the line of Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright.
Can you guys hear me?
Good morning, Heiko. Yes, we can.
Good morning, Heiko, yes.
I'm very intrigued by those negotiations for the modular processing and refining hub in Brownsville, obviously, given recent geopolitical risk factors that have just been going up quite a bit and just in general uncertainties that are going on, I think this might be quite interesting. A couple of things on that. Can you walk us through what you see an impact with the shipping expenses if this Brownsville hub goes ahead and maybe quantify it?
Sure. I think there are many exciting options about bringing material straight to the U.S., and shipping is one of them. Energy costs, of course, are another because the biggest input into our cost base when we process nodules is energy. And we applaud this administration for realizing that abundant energy leads to prosperity. There's no better example of that than the U.S. compared to some other markets. It's our estimate that you can actually process nodules cheaper at the site we've located, Brownsville, Texas, compared to China or Indonesia or Japan because of energy costs. Shipping is also better as well. It does mean bringing them through the Panama Canal. The site we've chosen does have some deepwater berths available to it. They won't take the biggest ships that are available and that we'd like to use today, but in time, we think they can. I don't have firm numbers to provide today, but improvements to be made are clear.
And then I know it's early, but can you walk me through — and you may not even have all these answers yet — but can you walk me through key permits and timelines you think we need to build all this infrastructure, please?
Yes. It's important to note, Heiko, too, what we're beginning here is site-specific feasibility work. At the same time, what I can say is that the particular site we're looking at does have many permits. We continue to have very positive discussions with Governor Abbott's office in Texas and other agencies there. But it's important to note, a lot of this is going to be, as a prerequisite of us making plans and moving forward, dependent on some of the support we get at the federal level. So really, the key permit here is the grant of a commercial recovery permit by NOAA. Certainly when we're talking to various agencies and cabinet departments, it is that permit that would unlock, we think, a lot of the support and potential investment for a facility like this. One of the reasons I think you're seeing TMC engage in some of this feasibility work as well as us, alongside our partner Allseas, progress engineering work and begin to think about ordering long lead time items is due to our confidence in the grant of that commercial recovery permit in a timely manner.
Our next question will come from the line of Matthew O'Keefe with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Yes, just a question. I want to follow up on Heiko's Texas question there. You are working on a feasibility study there. It sounds like Mariana is going to be a part of that. What's the timing on getting that done? And will we get to see sort of the results of that?
Yes, sure. Certainly, Mariana will be playing an important role as part of our owners team. We already have Hatch working on the refresh of that PFS, which is based on bringing all those numbers to a Brownsville site. We anticipate that will be ready very soon. But we also anticipate well before the end of the year having what, in the old language, would be a BFS on what we're planning to put on the ground in Texas. The date that has been talked about is end of October, so not far away. We certainly expect Hatch and others to be involved in that as well.
And that's a good group. And then is that going to be a hydromet facility? Or are you going to look at an option of doing sort of the RCEF front end like you're going to be doing in Japan?
Yes, that's the exciting part. Since Dr. Jeffrey Donald joined our group and pivoted us back to more of a pyrometallurgical front end, we've been building lots of expertise on how we get raw nodules into intermediate products. The plan is to build the pyrometallurgical front end in Brownsville if we were to go down that pathway. We're very fortunate that we have an amazing technical partner in Japan that we continue to have a great working relationship with. A nickel refinery or nickel processing plant hasn't been built in the U.S. in 80 years, yet demand for nickel is increasing. It's needed to make every ton of stainless steel, used in super alloys, AI and data centers, military uses and electrification. We import 100% of our nickel, so there's an opportunity here. We see this might be the moment where the administration says yes, we want to fix that problem.
Yes. No, for sure. That's why I was kind of asking; it seems like a pretty exciting turn and would love to see the numbers on that. More on that, just switching off the processing back to the recovery. You said you're sort of getting long lead time items, I'm assuming for Hidden Gem and the whole process. So what would you anticipate — assuming you get your permit within 12 months — what would you anticipate the timing to get Hidden Gem back on the water? And do you foresee it being as is or with additional collector capacity?
We are still standing by our guidance of commissioning Q4 next year. We've elected to run with a two-collector model. That gives us the opportunity to get out on the water in early '28 and kick off with one collector in production, but we'll soon move to a second collector being in production as well. We have a production boat that is production ready now just on a production number that's not high enough. The more tonnes you amortize over the cost of the floating steel above, the better the economics. I think we proved in 2022 that we can do this reliably at commercial scale. Now it's about making money.
It's important to note, Matt, the connective tissue for the ramp-up offshore, and then also what the potential processing and refining plans might be onshore. Certainly, this administration wants to be able to say if we can bring this back domestically, it's helpful to be able to do it during this administration. The way you do that is ramp up in relatively bite-sized amounts, starting, let's say, with production capacity that could handle nodules coming from a vessel like the Hidden Gem, which has a 3 million tonnes per annum nominal capacity. Matching as best we can the ramp-up for both the offshore production and then having a home for the processing and refining of those nodules is part of the work that we and our team of engineers are doing in the coming months.
All right. And if I may just ask one more question. On the permitting process, not so much the process — you've made that pretty clear. One of the, under the NOAA process, there is an additional piece of ground that wasn't covered by the PFS or the initial assessment that you've added. I'm just curious why and what your plans are for that. Can you really do any work on that in the near term? And is it infringing on anyone else's claims that might be under the previous permit regime?
It was just a natural fit; it was fitting between two blocks that we had held over. While we're out there, we'll continue to take observations of that area. We'll aim to prove it's a continuous piece of ground, and it doesn't require any particular environmental work done on it beyond what we're already doing. We imagine that once production starts out there, there'll be more collaboration between some of the license holders as well. I think no doubt there will be some people that end up being granted licenses who don't have production vessels and/or who want help getting their applications through the permitting process. We probably know more about that than anyone on this planet, and we're certainly getting a lot of inbound about how we might be willing to collaborate with some players. We see this as pre-production. We want to see more people in production out there. But I'm pretty certain no one is planning to put plans for a processing plant on the ground anywhere yet. I see a lot of applicants starting to talk about being successful at moving to the first phase; we know from that journey there's a lot of road left in front of them, and we'll be here to help them and maybe supply services to them along the way. In the meantime, we will fully explore just how committed this administration is to bringing a processing plant so we can bring nodules straight to the U.S.
I think we're going to take a few questions potentially from our chat. There's a question from Jakob Stanski asking: you mentioned government support is needed for the U.S.-based processing plant. Can we clarify what type of support this means — financial, permitting or otherwise? It's a good question, and I think the answer is all of the above. Certainly, as we noted earlier, progressing the commercial recovery permit is the most important prerequisite. We also, of course, would rely upon federal, state and local levels, which we think are very supportive, to help make some of these plans a reality. The prerequisite for a lot of this work is site-specific feasibility work. Ensuring that we get that right and are doing it at a place like the Port of Brownsville, where we have truly everything we need to stand up a potential nodule ecosystem, will be critical in our decision to push forward. We have the unique ability with this resource to maintain capital-light options for processing. It's not like most ore bodies where you have no choice but to build processing and refining close to where the ore body is. We have flexibility in the nature of this nodule resource and that you can collect them and ship them north, south, east or west, but it's the desire of this administration to change the game and reduce dependency on other countries for critical metals. This is not just a TMC story. We have the resource and capability to help do this, but we'll make decisions with the benefit of our shareholders in mind and won't push forward without a very nondilutive financing plan that we expect would be supported by the government if we were to take the next step. There is another question here from Jameson Irwin asking to what extent our systems are being designed or evaluated for dual-use capabilities with U.S. Defense or autonomous underwater operations. Gerard, maybe you want to weigh in on that point as well?
Look, I think there are some exciting areas for collaboration, and I wouldn't rule them out.
I see one more question on the Hidden Gem about the potential investment or acquisition of a second vessel like the Hidden Gem. What would be planned before that? Who might manufacture it? Who would the partners be on that front?
Taking a converted drillship and making it fit for picking up nodules proved to be a pretty efficient move, and there's an abundance of those vessels. I saw Transocean recently scrapped four of them for quite cheap money, and so that's an option. We do have inbound inquiry from people who have vessels who would like to use them. Of course, the vessel is the first step; the operator is the important one. To be clear, Allseas want to operate more vessels in the CCZ, and we want them to operate more vessels for us in this area. There are efficiencies in having similar types of vessels from a parts and administration perspective. So stand by.
Operator, any other questions on the phone line?
I'm showing no further questions on the phone lines.
Okay. Gerard, perhaps over to you.
Well, yes. Thank you, everyone. We've got a lot of very long-term shareholders who have been supporting us since our IPO in 2021 and, of course, before that when we were private. It's exciting to see the direction the business is heading. It was exciting to report some of those updates today. It's frustrating not being able to give more regular updates, but we have to be very sensitive in how we message that. To the team and our partners, thank you for an enormous heavy lift from everyone who works at TMC. It's a very dedicated, hard-working team, and it's an honor to work alongside you all. And to our shareholders, thank you for being there and coming with us on this journey. We look forward to keeping you updated as updates become available. Over and out.
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.