Earnings Call Transcript

WASTE MANAGEMENT INC (WM)

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Earnings Call Transcript - WM Q1 2024

James Fish, President and CEO

Hello, and thank you for joining us. Welcome to the WM First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. I will now hand the call over to Ed Egl, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Edward Egl, Senior Director of Investor Relations

Thank you, Towanda. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. With me this morning are Jim Fish, President and Chief Executive Officer; John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; and Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. You'll hear prepared comments from each of them today. Jim will cover high-level financials and provide a strategic update. John will cover an operating overview, and Devina will cover the details of the financials. Before we get started, please note that we filed a Form 8-K that includes the earnings press release and is available on our website at www.wm.com. The Form 8-K, the press release and the schedules of the press release include important information. During the call, you will hear forward-looking statements, which are based on current expectations, projections, or opinions about future periods. All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Some of these risks and uncertainties are discussed in today's press release and in our filings with the SEC, including our most recent Form 10-K. John will discuss our results in the areas of yield and volume, which unless stated otherwise, are more specifically references to internal revenue growth, or IRG, from yield or volume. During the call, Jim, John, and Devina will discuss operating EBITDA, which is income from operations before depreciation and amortization. Any comparisons, unless otherwise stated, will be with the prior year period. Net income, EPS, income from operations and margin, operating EBITDA, and margin, and prior period operating expense results have been adjusted to enhance comparability by excluding certain items that management believes do not reflect our fundamental business performance or results of operations. Additionally, projected future operating EBITDA and margin is anticipated to be adjusted to exclude such items that are not currently determinable but may be significant. These adjusted measures, in addition to free cash flow, are non-GAAP measures. Please refer to the earnings press release and tables, which can be found on the company's website at www.wm.com for reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures and additional information about our use of non-GAAP measures and non-GAAP projections. This call is being recorded and will be available 24 hours a day beginning approximately 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time today. To hear a replay of the call, access the WM website at www.investors.wm.com. Time-sensitive information provided during today's call, which is occurring on April 25, 2024, may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay. Any redistribution, retransmission, or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the express written consent of WM is prohibited. Now I'll turn the call over to WM's President and CEO, Jim Fish.

James Fish, President and CEO

All right. Thanks, Ed, and thank you all for joining us. The WM team delivered another quarter of strong financial results to start 2024, powered by outstanding operational performance in the collection and disposal business. Total company operating EBITDA grew nearly 15% in the first quarter, and margin expanded 240 basis points, driven by substantial momentum on cost optimization efforts and disciplined execution on our pricing programs. Last quarter, we said the areas of strength in 2024 would look very similar to those of 2023, and that was definitely the case in Q1. Continued traction on cost optimization led to our third consecutive quarter of operating EBITDA margin above 29.5%, with Q1 coming in at 29.6% in the historically lowest margin quarter of the year. This margin result exceeded our expectations and reflects the tangible benefits of technology on our operating costs, the sustained effectiveness of our pricing strategy, and the substantial progress we're delivering on our sustainability initiatives. It's our track record in these areas that gives us confidence we're positioned to deliver our highest-ever full-year operating EBITDA margin between 29.7% and 30.2%, which is more than 100 basis points of expansion from 2023 at the midpoint. Our ability to convert more of each revenue dollar to earnings and free cash flow allows us to raise our prior outlook for both operating EBITDA and free cash flow by $100 million. As we progress through 2024, we're maintaining our focus on 3 priorities: disciplined pricing across each line of business, leveraging technology to permanently reduce our cost to serve our customers, and executing on our strategic investments in sustainability growth. John and Devina will cover more details on where we're seeing traction within the cost structure and where we have further runway, so I want to spend a few minutes on the other 2 priorities, our pricing strategy, and the progress we're making in expanding our sustainability businesses. Beginning with pricing, we're pleased with the results we've seen from embracing a customer lifetime value model. Our teams are able to leverage customer-specific analysis to understand where a customer is on their journey and design actionable strategies that will extend the customer retention, improve profitability, or both. We're confident that we found a winning approach to data-driven decision-making that optimizes price to reflect the value of the services we deliver, the strength of the asset network, and our leading commitment to environmental sustainability. Our first quarter results again show that we have the ability to leverage price increases to cover costs and grow margin while also reducing customer churn. Shifting to our sustainability businesses. During the quarter, we delivered growth projects across the recycling and renewable energy businesses. This includes completing a large recycling upgrade in Germantown, Wisconsin. The updated facility relies on state-of-the-art equipment that reduces labor costs, increases throughput by 20%, up to 60 tons of material per hour, and improves product quality. We have another 9 upgraded facilities scheduled for completion this year, and we'll be opening 3 new recycling facilities and expanding our industry-leading single-stream network even further. Additionally, we've completed a new renewable natural gas facility this quarter at our DFW landfill in the Dallas-Fort Worth market, and we remain on track to commission another 4 new renewable natural gas facilities in 2024. We're also excited to announce that WM was just named the official sustainability partner of Major League Baseball. WM's work with MLB is the first collaboration of its kind between an environmental services company and a professional sports league. With this partnership, we have the opportunity to offer services to all 30 MLB clubs in the United States and Canada. We expect to leverage our expertise to build comprehensive plans to improve the environmental impact of Major League Baseball and its clubs. In closing, I want to thank our WM team for all their hard work during the quarter. I'm immensely proud of their dedication and execution, which have helped achieve such strong financial results. And I'll now turn the call over to John to discuss our operational results.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Thanks, Jim, and good morning. In the first quarter, operating expenses as a percentage of revenue improved 210 basis points year-over-year to 60.9%, continuing the positive trend of our disciplined management of operating costs, particularly in our collection business. Through strategic investments in innovative solutions and process optimization, we delivered improvements in operational efficiency, extracted costs, and set a new standard for managing the middle of the P&L. Combining this strong operating expense performance with the disciplined pricing performance Jim described, we greatly enhanced overall operating EBITDA margins. In the first quarter, operating EBITDA in our collection and disposal business grew $212 million, and margin expanded 310 basis points to 36.6%. As we continue our journey of automation and optimization, we remain committed to harnessing the power of technology to drive sustainable growth, further reduce costs, and improve profitability. In the first quarter of 2024, our continued adoption of technology and automation initiatives led to substantial reductions in both labor costs and repair and maintenance expenses. On the labor front, efficiency in all 3 of our collection lines of business improved meaningfully from the first quarter of 2023 as our implementation continues to gain traction. As an example, we're seeing nice improvements in performance from our routing efficiency program, next day optimization, or NDO, in our industrial line of business. This tool allows us to more dynamically route and it improves our efficiency, which is reducing our cost to serve and improving our asset planning. Currently, we have deployed NDO at 92% of our collection sites, and the majority of those are already achieving or exceeding efficiency targets. Additionally, we are achieving great results in the automation of our residential routes. Through Q1, we have automated over 650 routes and removed almost 800 rear load trucks since 2022. This has led to upwards of a 30% efficiency gain and residential EBITDA margins approaching 20%. The integration of these technology investments, coupled with the benefits of improved driver retention, have resulted in a 135 basis point improvement in labor costs as a percentage of revenue. In the first quarter of 2024, driver turnover improved to about 18%, down from over 22% a year ago. We expect ongoing benefits from continued moderation inflation as well as the investments we're making in our people and processes as we progress through the year. Turning to repair and maintenance. In the first quarter, repair and maintenance spending decreased year-over-year for the first time in several years, and spending as a percentage of revenue improved 50 basis points. In addition to our strong process discipline, we are also leveraging technology to reduce these costs. These technologies have enabled us to digitize much of our workflow, beginning with all of our technicians who now have portable technology in their hands. These tools facilitate our ability to assign and track work, drive technician efficiency, reduce downtime, and improve asset utilization. Our results are encouraging, and we see further runway to optimize repair and maintenance costs in the future. In addition to great operating cost performance, we continued to deliver top line growth primarily through disciplined execution on our pricing programs. Our customer lifetime value model continues to drive strong organic revenue growth, and our sales metrics in the quarter are a clear indication of our success in profitably growing the collection and disposal business. Churn was near the lowest rate that we've ever seen at 8.5%. New business improved 16% and continues to outpace lost business. Rollbacks remain in the low double digits. Net service increases remained positive, and our net promoter score improved by almost 12% year-over-year. Looking at revenue growth, as Jim said, we've seen a strong start to the year in pricing. Volume has been relatively consistent with our original expectations, with the exception of our temporary roll-off business. The softness in this volume category reflects some slowness in the homebuilding and industrial segments of the macro economy. C&D was also impacted with the lapping of volumes related to Hurricane Ian cleanup last year. With that said, our 2 bellwethers for demand, commercial collection and MSW (municipal solid waste) volumes were positive in the quarter, and we also experienced a nice uptick in special waste tons in the quarter. For the full year, we now expect total revenue growth of between 5% and 5.75%. The revision from our prior expectation is driven by 2 things: the softer temporary roll-off volumes mentioned; and a lower outlook for energy surcharge revenue, given the decline in the average diesel cost relative to our expectations. Our pricing remains on track, and in some lines of business, ahead of our original expectations. Our teams delivered outstanding performance in the first quarter, and I can't thank them enough for all their contributions to our success. I'll now turn the call over to Devina to discuss our first quarter financial results in further detail.

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, John, and good morning. Growing our adjusted operating EBITDA margin by 240 basis points in the first quarter stands out as the best indicator of WM's strong start to the year. As John discussed, the lion's share of this margin expansion came from the optimization of our operating performance in the collection business, with labor efficiency and improved repair and maintenance costs driving a 270 basis point improvement in our total company margin from the core. Our continued focus on managing our back office spending also contributed 20 basis points of margin expansion in the quarter, with SG&A as a percentage of revenue coming in at 9.5%. Commodity impacts in the quarter largely offset each other as fuel price impacts benefited margin by about 40 basis points, and recycling results decreased margin by about 30 basis points, primarily from the impact of higher recycled commodity pricing in the brokerage business. The remainder of the margin bridge from Q1 of 2023 to Q1 of 2024 relates to a headwind of about 60 basis points from the combined impacts of incentive compensation and costs incurred by our corporate team to drive adoption of our optimization programs. Our strong margin and earnings, combined with benefits from working capital and lower cash incentive compensation payments, led to robust growth in first quarter cash from operations. We're starting the year strong with cash flow from operations as a percentage of revenue up over 500 basis points to 26.5%, demonstrating the value of our margin expansion to growing the company's cash flow yield. Capital expenditures totaled $668 million in the quarter, with both capital spending to support the base business and our investments in sustainability growth tracking as planned. Our first quarter free cash flow of $714 million allowed us to invest across all of our capital allocation priorities. We returned more than $550 million to shareholders, paying more than $300 million in dividends and repurchasing $250 million of our stock. In all of this, we still maintained our leverage ratio at our target levels of about 2.6x. With our strong balance sheet and robust earnings and cash flow outlook, we are well positioned to continue our commitment to shareholder returns and long-term growth. Our effective tax rate in the first quarter was 18.6%, which includes a $37 million benefit from investment tax credits related to the development of renewable natural gas projects. As we noted during our fourth quarter earnings call, our original expectation was that we would see a $120 million benefit in 2024 from the ITC. And we now expect $145 million for the full year. We expect this to benefit both our tax expense and free cash flow in 2024. As Jim mentioned, our great start to the year has put us on a higher growth trajectory for the full year than we initially anticipated when we gave guidance last quarter. We're confident that our full year operating EBITDA margin results can exceed the very strong 29.6% we achieved in the first quarter, and that is reflected in our increased outlook for 2024 operating EBITDA and margin. As we think about the balance of the year, we anticipate that outsized earnings and margin growth continues in the second and third quarters from our pricing programs and momentum in operating efficiencies that began late in the third quarter of 2023. We continue to expect that growth in our sustainability businesses will be more weighted to the back half of the year as more recycling and renewable natural gas projects begin operations. Pulling these points together, we want to emphasize that $85 million of the $100 million increase in our operating EBITDA guidance for the year is attributable to our team's strong execution on driving efficiency and improved cost to serve in the collection business. The remaining $15 million is related to higher recycled commodity price expectations for the year. To wrap up, we're very pleased to deliver first quarter results that exceeded our own high expectations. Our sustained strong results are a testament to the investments we have made in talent, technology, and assets over the past several years. As always, I want to thank the entire WM team for their focus and dedication to delivering on our commitments to our customers, our communities, and our shareholders. With that, Towanda, let's open the line for questions.

Operator, Operator

Our first question comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James.

Patrick Brown, Analyst

So we've got to come back to the stellar margin performance here. So John, if I just look at collection and disposal EBITDA, I think you said it was up $212 million on maybe only $190 million increase in revenue. So I just want to understand how we're getting such incredible flow-through. I mean, it sounds like you're seeing outright deflation in certain items, but maybe just a little more color. And just to be clear, there wasn't, Devina, any sort of onetime accrual reversal or anything else that really impacted the quarter, is that correct?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So I'll start with the easy one and confirm there were no accrual reversals or onetime items in the first quarter. The only kind of one-timer that we could point out is actually the loss of the Ian volumes from the prior year that would have been a hill to climb from a margin perspective because, as you know, storm volumes come at high margins. So in fact, the $212 million operating EBITDA growth in the collection and disposal business came with 310 basis points of margin expansion to 36.6% in the collection and disposal business.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes, a little more color, Tyler. I think a few things are occurring. One is, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we're seeing a nice uptick in efficiency in all 3 lines of business from the mid-single digits up to the high single digits for residential. Residential is a really good story. If you look at the table in the back and you see we still traded about 2.9% of the volume down, but we made a good bit more money for the quarter. And I think we're starting to strike a better balance there. I mentioned in the prepared remarks, residential margins are approaching 20% at the EBITDA line. I think the M&R piece is certainly worthwhile on touching. Last year, we took delivery of about 1,450 trucks. We'll get about 1,800 this year, and that's having a meaningful impact. We felt like we've been chasing M&R costs and labor related to maintenance and repairs. And for us to actually tamp down costs quarter-over-quarter for the year is something, as I mentioned, we haven't done in a number of years. So I think it's been good efficiency, good cost discipline. Our pricing remains robust, especially across the collection and disposal lines. So I think a lot of that came together in Q1. And as Devina mentioned, there really was no one-timer that benefited that. That was just strong execution by the team in the field.

Patrick Brown, Analyst

Yes, absolutely. Now John, you mentioned 20% resi margin. So can you just remind us where those margins were a few years ago because I believe they're a fair bit lower? And then do you think that those can approach more company average or is this kind of more where you would expect them?

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes. You're testing my memory here, Tyler. But I would say around 10%, 11% is what I recall. And I've said when we started down this journey, if you will, to really rationalize some of the residential business, we wanted residential to compete with commercial and industrial. And while we're not quite there yet, we can see a point where that gets a little bit closer to converging. And I think as that happens, that 2.5% to 3% volume that we've been kind of trading off on average will start to moderate as we get closer to that line.

Patrick Brown, Analyst

Okay. And then my last one here, Devina, just want to make sure that we kind of have a level set on Q2. So if I look back historically, margins do typically rise, I don't know, 150, 200 basis points sequentially from Q1 to Q2. Just anything to think about why that wouldn't be the case or can you just help us shape the Q2 margin expectation?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, I think it's a great question. What I would tell you that we're looking at is a little softer climb from Q1 to Q2 in the normal sequential trends but still a marked improvement from Q1. And coming in, I would say, above 30% pretty handily in Q2 and Q3, in particular. We're currently expecting a little north of 30% in Q2 and potentially even north of 31% in Q3.

James Fish, President and CEO

Tyler, I believe part of that may not indicate any softening. We are navigating unfamiliar territory regarding margin, which is a positive development. It's notable that we now have a guidance range that includes a number starting with a 3, something we've discussed for a while. Therefore, we're approaching this with some caution. We did observe the trend you mentioned from Q1 to Q2 and beyond, as did the field. However, we feel it's wise to be a bit cautious as we enter this new phase.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bryan Burgmeier with Citi.

Bryan Burgmeier, Analyst

I believe you've said revised EBITDA guidance is about $85 million in underlying improvement. I guess there would be a headwind from the roll-off volume, so it's maybe even more than $100 million sort of underlying number. Did fuel costs play a role in the EBIT guidance raise? And maybe just from a big picture, what changed over the last 2 to 3 months that maybe allowed you to realize these savings a little bit quicker than you may have anticipated in your original view?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, great question. I would tell you in terms of the $85 million, it really is predominantly oriented to 2 things. And one, the biggest driver is our cost efficiency performance and the really strong execution on reducing cost to serve that John's talked so much about on labor and repair and maintenance. The other is the strong execution on price, and that's moderately ahead of the expectations that we had when we came into the year, and we think that will hold for the rest of 2024. With respect to fuel, it really didn't impact our dollar outlook for the business. What it did impact is our margin outlook for the business. And so the help in margin was 40 basis points in the quarter, and we think that some of that margin help continues into Q2 and Q3. With respect to how we executed in Q1 that gave us confidence in raising the margin outlook, I would tell you, we saw a really strong margin performance in the fourth quarter, really beginning in the third quarter of 2023 but again in Q4. And because Q4 and Q1, on a seasonally adjusted basis, tend to be lower volume and lower margin quarters for us, we really wanted to preserve some of the upside potential until we saw some of the normal seasonal upticks in our business in the second quarter. But with the strong performance in the first quarter, we really could not wait to reflect that we now expect a full year that will hit that 100 basis points of margin expansion.

James Fish, President and CEO

I mean, I think the risk there, Devina, was as we discussed it, Bryan, the risk was, with such a strong performance, if we didn't raise guidance, there might have been questions on this call about, so is there something that we're not seeing that you're seeing? Is there something that you had that benefited you? And of course, Devina already answered that. The answer was no. But what we were a little concerned, if we didn't raise margin after such a huge margin performance that, by the way, was on the heels of 2 other quarters, that you might start asking questions about it, are we missing something? And you're not missing anything. We're just improving the margin that much.

Bryan Burgmeier, Analyst

Got it. Last question for me. I know we're waiting for a little bit more detail on the investment tax credits. And it seems like you put a comment in the press release, $37 million in 1Q, $145 million for the year. I guess I'm just curious if that was kind of in line with your original expectations. And are we still kind of tracking for like a $300 million benefit over the course of your investments through 2026? Good luck in the quarter. I'll turn it over.

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Great, thank you. So our original expectations for 2024 were $120 million, so our current outlook of $145 million is a $25 million increase of the ITC benefit in 2024 specifically. With regard to our full outlook for ITC capture over the development plan that we have outlined, we are tracking toward the high end of the original range of $250 million to $300 million.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs.

Jerry Revich, Analyst

Really nice performance this quarter. And over time, you folks have consistently expanded margins by 20, 30 basis points per year almost like clockwork. And I'm wondering, as we think about the long-term plan from here, should we be thinking about 2025 as a lower year of margin expansion because we're getting such good price/cost spread this year? Or does that not factor into how you're thinking about the longer-term plan that you folks unveiled, what, 6 or 9 months ago?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

It's a great question. While it's a bit early to set specific guidance for 2025, I agree that there are fundamentals that might cause us to be more cautious about achieving a 20 to 30 basis point margin expansion year-over-year. However, I believe we have areas of growth, especially in labor and repair and maintenance. Historically, repair and maintenance has been below 9% of revenue, but in Q1, we're at 9.5%. Achieving 50 basis points of savings over the year would equate to $100 million of EBITDA. If we can reach that, I think it could provide us with some additional traction beyond the long-term goal of 20 to 30 basis points. One potential headwind we are aware of, based on current knowledge, is that the alternative fuel tax credits will expire at the end of 2024, which has been a $55 million annual benefit to our operating expenses. This could impact our margins in the coming years. Nevertheless, we believe that the strong progress in labor and repair and maintenance will more than compensate for that headwind.

James Fish, President and CEO

Jerry, I believe it will always be a mix of challenges and advantages. Tara is here, and she can explain that we expect to see some benefits next year due to recycled shutdowns. This year, we anticipate a negative impact of around $30 million from shutting down our recycling plants for renovations, but that should decrease significantly next year, giving us a potential boost of about $25 million. Additionally, John, Devina, and I have discussed reducing headcount in a low-impact manner, primarily through attrition. From our actual headcount in 2022, we've seen a decrease of over 2,000 people, and this wasn't through layoffs but rather by opting not to fill certain positions. We've identified several categories for this approach, though some are still in progress. For instance, when transitioning from rear load to automated side load, we see a reduction in the number of workers needed for truck operations due to high turnover. Likewise, in Tara's area, as we rebuild recycling facilities, we're observing reductions in labor costs by 30% to 40%, resulting in additional headcount reductions. Therefore, in 2024, we project around 1,200 more positions may be eliminated in those areas, bringing our total reductions to about 3,200 or 3,300. This is a significant part of our strategy, as we aim to enhance labor efficiency, and we are seeing positive results from these efforts.

Jerry Revich, Analyst

Super. And Jim, maybe just to expand on the recycling part of that conversation. So we have the plant downtime this year but also the returns on the CapEx that you folks are delivering. So what level of improvement are you anticipating '25 versus '24? Correct me if I'm wrong, I think the original plan called for something like a $90 million year-over-year benefit. Is that still the plan for '25 versus '24 so we get that on top of the $25 million swing that you spoke to?

Tara Hemmer, Executive Vice President

I can speak to that. So as we mentioned, we have 13 plants that we expect to bring online this year and another 13 next year, and those remain on track today. If you think about our exit in 2024 related to headcount, we'll be at a point where we've gotten 70% of the headcount out by the end of 2024 on the automation journey. So we should see not just a pickup from shutdown costs but also from the benefit of 30% improvement in labor costs and operating expenses from those plants. It's a great example of how we're able to bring to life in some of these communities. We were just up at Germantown last week for the grand opening celebration. And bringing in more capacity is a great way to differentiate WM in these key markets that we operate in.

James Fish, President and CEO

So to use a baseball analogy since we just signed a deal with Major League Baseball, Tara, we'll be in the seventh inning?

Tara Hemmer, Executive Vice President

Exactly, seventh inning stretch.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets.

Sabahat Khan, Analyst

A lot of color there on kind of the tangible labor savings. Is there any way to quantify some of the operational efficiencies or savings in terms of the technology investments that you're making, some of the data analytics tools just in terms of how much basis points you might expect over 1, 3 years and what you're kind of seeing relative to expectations?

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Well, I think the one line we can certainly look at, I think Devina had some of that in her prepared remarks, is kind of what the ratio is of direct labor to revenue. We saw a nice improvement there. I think that's a combination of 2 things: one, we've continued to be very disciplined about pricing. We've said we're playing the long game here, and I comment about customer lifetime value. So I think part of the benefit is we've continued to drive quality revenue at the top line across all the collection lines. And frankly, the post-collection line is worth noting it didn't come out, but this was our best quarter in history from a landfill pricing standpoint and a transfer station perspective. So the top line is strong. But I mentioned efficiency. And part of what's driving that mid-to-high single-digit efficiency is the use of technology to drive efficiency. Our turnover number's worth commenting on again because we are at all-time lows at about 18%. And that takes a lot of pressure off if you think about the cost, the friction cost of training folks, putting second people in trucks and all those things. So that's another part of it. And we're down about 750 routes year-over-year. And you can look at our volume. Part of it is being driven by the automation of residential. But the rest of it is we are less capital-intensive for basically doing more work in the commercial and industrial lines year-over-year.

James Fish, President and CEO

John noted that 90% of the roll-off line of business has been implemented using this optimization model. However, we have yet to roll out the commercial and residential segments with this model, leaving us with significant potential for improvement. This initiative originated about four to five years ago when we recognized that our routing efficiency could be greatly enhanced through technology. This realization has been quite common across the industry. About four to five years ago, we committed to making changes, and now we're beginning to see the positive outcomes of those efforts.

Sabahat Khan, Analyst

All right, great. And then I guess, as you think about optimizing and I think pricing and some of the data analytics you're using to figure out the right price for the right customer based on their value, do you believe, based on the work you've done to date, that the model is at the right place? I'm sure there's an element of test and learn. But do you think you've got the right factors? What's sort of your data telling you in terms of how well that model is working?

James Fish, President and CEO

I think we've made a ton of progress there. Are we perfect? We're not, but so much better than we used to be.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

I would say, Jim, our customer metrics, I commented on, that's really the barometer. When you look at our gross and net PIs, when you look at customer churn, service increases and decreases and our net promoter score, I think those are all the measurements sort of right to the equal sign of how effective our program is.

Sabahat Khan, Analyst

And then just one quick one, I guess, on the revenue guidance update there. I think just wanted to get a little bit more color on the softer roll-off portion. It sounds like a bit of homebuilding and industrial slowdown. Is that just a change in the view of how the macro is going to evolve for the rest of the year based on what you've seen year-to-date? Or was there any specific issue that came up in the industry? Just want to get more color on the evolution of the view on the roll-off and the macro.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes. I think the takeaway here is we were guiding to about 1% volume and now we're probably down to about 0.5%. So it's a move but it's not that meaningful of a move. It's early in the year, too. I would tell you that when we were preparing for today, we're obviously looking at Q1, Q4. And we've seen a little bit of an uptick here in April. It looks like it's getting a tad better. I think the bigger news is aside from a little softness in the housing sector, which we spoke to, I think the rest of the business is still performing well. When you look at our post-collection volume, particularly MSW and our commercial volume still performing well, that's what really gives us conviction about the $100 million for the balance of the year that Devina commented on.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.

Hilary Lee, Analyst

This is Hilary Lee on for Toni. Congrats on the quarter, guys. Just want to touch on pricing a little bit. So when you said earlier that you expect price to hold for the rest of the year, does that mean you're expecting core price to be closer to around that 7% rather than the 6% you said last quarter?

James Fish, President and CEO

We did say earlier that we exceeded our expectations on price. So we are not changing anything for the year, but your point is valid; we actually ended up a little higher than our full year guidance, which is positive for us. For now, we'll keep it as we originally set it.

Hilary Lee, Analyst

Got it. And as a follow-up, just wanted to touch on the sustainability. I know last quarter you talked about having about $150 million of EBITDA coming from the sustainability investments for 2024. Just wondering if you would be able to kind of give us a little bit of information on potentially the cadence or kind of the split between R&D and recycling. Any details would help.

Tara Hemmer, Executive Vice President

The $15 million increase that Devina mentioned comes primarily from recycling and commodity prices, with minimal benefit from the renewable energy business. Currently, approximately 85% of our volume is secured in various terms of offtake, an improvement from the two-thirds we reported during our last call. Although RIN prices have risen, we've also faced some balancing factors related to natural gas and power prices due to a milder winter this year.

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And in terms of the cadence of when that shows up, it will be more heavily weighted toward Q3 and Q4 because our timeline with regard to the incremental projects that are coming online is weighted toward the back half of the year.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Hoffman with Stifel.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

Devina, Jim, John, do we have a new baseline in margins? We can now say 29.5% to 30% is the new baseline and we'll grow from there?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

There's certainly nothing in the current year that tells us that this isn't the right baseline, so I do think that, that's a great way to look at it, Michael. Everything that you know about the WM culture is one that's focused on the customer and focused on continuous improvement. And I think those 2 things shone through and that commitment won't stop. So I do think the new baseline can go upward from here.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

Everyone is trying to determine how to model 2025. We need to make some assumptions, such as our expectations for inflation and GDP. If we assume 3% inflation and 2.5% GDP, then the price versus cost spread should yield around 30 basis points of margin. Additionally, we still have the factors that John and Tara mentioned. This is my sixth earnings call in the last 7 hours, so everything is blending together. There are still opportunities for self-help as well. To think about it correctly, without assigning a specific number increment, we start with a 30% price versus cost spread management, which could range from 29.5% to 30%, add that 30% to it, and then consider the self-help initiatives.

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I think that you've characterized it well in terms of self-help. I think it's that continuous improvement mindset as well as some of the things that were out of our control like truck deliveries. For a while, we've really moved past that headwind and are starting to see strong traction from getting the assets that we need to run our business.

James Fish, President and CEO

I look at it as continuous improvement, Michael. Self-help kind of sounds like I was an alcoholic and I'm coming off the bottle.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

But what are you drinking these days? So cadence, Devina, in 4Q, you said first half, second half EBITDA growth should be about equal. Does anything change with the performance at this juncture?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

The only thing I would say is that first half solid waste growth is even greater than what we had projected because what you saw is the strong margin performance and growth from the solid waste business really showed up more quickly than we were expecting. So that solid waste lift comes more heavily weighted toward the first half of the year.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

So a little more weighting than slightly as opposed to evenly?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Correct.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

And on the $85 million of operational leverage, how much of that is the ITC benefit that runs through gross margin instead of through the tax line?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

None of it, zero. All of it's in the tax line.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

Perfect. And then given the improvement in retention, I would assume the safety metrics are also at all-time goods?

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes, that's a good point, Michael. I mean, take that sort of a leading indicator of what we can expect from safety. But there's a clear distinction between somebody who's tenured in the seat and somebody who's not. And that's not a critique of folks who are new in the seat. It's just a matter of having that experience. And we do see a pretty wide spread between those who are tenured in operating a vehicle and those who are not. So as we continue to hold that number down, we expect the safety results to continue to improve as well.

James Fish, President and CEO

Michael, we have mentioned previously that the most crucial factor in transitioning from rear load to ASL is related to safety, rather than financial outcomes. While financial aspects are certainly improving, safety remains the primary focus. As we shift individuals from the back of the truck, which is the most hazardous area in our operations, into the cab, we anticipate significant benefits.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

Yes. And the last one for me. One of the powers of the roll-off business is that when it does slow, you park equipment, reposition drivers, and raise prices. Is there anything different in this cycle?

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

No. Michael, I think you said it well. I mean, that's something we've been very focused on. Some of the technologies we've implemented over the last handful of quarters really starting to show benefits is really around capacity planning and making sure that we can see around the corner using, frankly, data and analytics that we didn't use a handful of years ago to be very predictive with a very small deviation between what history would tell us we need to plan from what we actually plan for, and we're still getting better at that.

Michael Hoffman, Analyst

So we might see a revenue hit for volume but you might not see much, if anything, in EBITDA because you make those adjustments so quickly. That's part of the point.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

We talked about the volume being down for the quarter, Michael, but I think the revenue was off about $7 million. So when you look at the amount of volume versus what we got from a revenue quality standpoint, from a margin standpoint, from that perspective, it was a good trade-off.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Stephanie Moore with Jefferies.

Stephanie Moore, Analyst

I wanted to maybe circle back on the automation opportunity within residential, apologize if I've missed it, but where are we left in terms of automating some of those routes, automated side-arms and the like, what has been complete? What is left to do? And then I think you did mention the opportunity for greater automation on the commercial side as well. So maybe if you could just expand on that opportunity and the timeline of starting to really kind of accelerate those efforts.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

I mentioned earlier that we have removed approximately 800 rear load trucks from our fleet and around 650 rear load routes since we began focusing on this in early Q2. We aim to target another 350 to 400 routes this year, and the range is due to the timing of truck deliveries. By the end of 2024, this will put us in about the sixth inning in terms of progress. We still have some work to do, so I hope that provides clarification.

James Fish, President and CEO

And in commercial?

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

On the commercial side, we are continuing to see benefits from improved efficiency, as Jim mentioned. We have more advanced tools to help us route our vehicles. While there is less of a dynamic aspect in commercial compared to roll-off, we still see it playing a role, particularly with our ability to route in real-time. We are currently implementing a capability to navigate around real-time traffic within our system.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Noah Kaye with Oppenheimer.

Noah Kaye, Analyst

So the really strong flow-through into free cash flow performance, can we just walk through how we get that improvement of $100 million? It sounds like, obviously, there's the operating performance, maybe also some tax items going on and then some working capital improvements. Just how do we think about the delta?

Devina Rankin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So it really is an EBITDA story. And the EBITDA dollar growth that we are projecting of $100 million is expected to flow directly through. And the reason you don't have a tax offset there from the higher earnings is because we have $25 million of incremental expected ITCs. So those 2 kind of offset each other such that our outlook for cash taxes is effectively flat. So EBITDA is what drove our outlook for $100 million increase in free cash flow for the year. I would tell you, I do expect some upside from that potentially because we had such a strong quarter from a working capital perspective and certainly stronger than we expected. So in my experience, you have to wait to see whether that's timing-related, and so we didn't incorporate any working capital benefit in the revised guidance.

Noah Kaye, Analyst

That's really clear and helpful. And then a question that might not have a clear answer. But on PFAS, it seems like the EPA regulations kind of played out as expected, although pretty inequitable to have exemptions for municipal but not private solid waste it seems. I guess 2 things: one, can you talk about your expectations for cost impacts if everything kind of stands up the way it does as written today? And two, your thoughts on how that might potentially change, whether with congressional action or any further action on the part of EPA.

John Morris, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

So Noah, I want to emphasize that we are closely monitoring this topic, as is the entire industry. The recent EPA release included some language regarding protections for landfills, but honestly, it didn’t provide enough assurance on this matter, so we will keep a close watch. We're actively engaging with the relevant offices to ensure we take a sensible approach because it’s an issue that needs proper management. I believe that both sub C and D landfills continue to be viewed as viable, long-term solutions for PFAS, so we still see potential there. The circle designation offers us further flexibility on the superfund front, which we see as a chance for certain DoD sites that will soon begin cleanup, and we are already involved in some of those efforts. On the cost side, it's a bit challenging to predict right now. However, I find it encouraging that during my recent discussions with our post-collection team, we identified several technological advancements that we believe can enhance our post-collection sites, allowing us to effectively manage costs that we can ultimately pass on to our customers. I hope I covered everything.

Operator, Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tony Bancroft with Gabelli Funds.

George Bancroft, Analyst

Congratulations to Jim, Devina, and John for a great quarter. Looking ahead, what opportunities do you see for transformation, whether it's with the large regional players that are still in the market or perhaps in a different business line? What is your long-term outlook for the business, and are you interested in exploring other opportunities?

James Fish, President and CEO

Yes. I think there certainly are always opportunities for us. Over the last couple of years, we've been focused on internal opportunities. We did say that with respect to M&A that we were sticking with our guidance that we've given in the last couple of years of $100 million to $200 million. But that there was some opportunity, and the pipeline looked pretty strong. So I do think there's opportunity for us to grow both organically, as we've talked a lot on this call, but also inorganically, and we're just going to make sure it's the right acquisition that we feel like has a good strategic long-term prospect.

Operator, Operator

I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jim Fish for closing remarks.

James Fish, President and CEO

Okay. Well, thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate your participation, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter.

Operator, Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.