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Earnings Call Transcript - USB Q4 2022

Operator, Operator

Welcome to the U.S. Bancorp Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Following a review of the results, there will be a formal question-and-answer session. This call will be recorded and available for replay beginning today at approximately 11:00 A.M. Central Time. I will now turn the conference call over to George Andersen, Senior Vice President and Director of Investor Relations for U.S. Bancorp.

George Andersen, Senior Vice President and Director of Investor Relations

Thank you, Brad, and good morning everyone. With me today are Andy Cecere, our Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer; and Terry Dolan, our Vice Chair and Chief Financial Officer. During their prepared remarks, Andy and Terry will be referencing a slide presentation. A copy of the presentation, as well as our earnings release and supplemental analyst schedules are available on our website at usbank.com. I would like to remind you that any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to risk and uncertainty. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described on page two of today's presentation, in our press release, our Form 10-K, and in subsequent reports on file with the SEC. Following their prepared remarks, Andy and Terry will take any questions that you have. I will now turn the call over to Andy.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks, George. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining our call. I'll begin on slide three. This quarter, we completed the acquisition of MUFG Union Bank on December 1st. In the fourth quarter, we reported $0.57 per diluted share or $1.20 after adjusting for notable items related to the acquisition. This was a complex quarter that included one month of Union Bank results, merger integration charges, and balance sheet optimization activity. Terry will provide more details on these notable items. Importantly, we ended the year with a common equity Tier 1 ratio of 8.4%, which was just above our expected level at deal close, and we delivered positive operating leverage for U.S. Bancorp legacy operations of 230 basis points for the full year. Strong year-over-year pre-tax provision income growth, as adjusted for notable items, was driven by net interest income growth and positive operating leverage. Credit quality remains strong, although credit metrics are starting to normalize as expected. Slide four details our reported and adjusted income statement results as well as end-of-period balances and other performance metrics. End-of-period assets for the company totaled $675 billion, reflecting the acquisition of Union Bank and certain balance sheet optimization actions. Slide five highlights key performance ratios. This quarter, we delivered a return on average assets of 1.2%, a return on average common equity of 16.8%, and a return on tangible common equity of 23.4%, each as adjusted for notable items. Turning to slide six, the completion of the Union Bank acquisition marked a significant milestone for our company. With double-digit percent increases in loan and deposit balances, Union Bank adds meaningful scale to our business that enables us to better serve our customers and communities. Union contributes considerable small business and consumer market share in a demographically attractive California market, and we're excited about the potential to deepen existing Union Bank relationships by overlaying our leading digital capabilities and robust product set, including wealth management, consumer and business banking, and payments offerings across a loyal but under-penetrated consumer base. In many ways, this deal underscores our commitment to creating a stronger, more competitive regional banking organization in a rapidly evolving environment. One of the more attractive aspects of this transaction is Union Bank's high-quality, low-cost consumer deposit franchise, which will support continued loan growth and margins. Let me turn the call over now to Terry, who will provide more detail on the quarter.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Thanks, Andy. If you turn to slide 7, as Andy mentioned, we reported diluted earnings per share of $0.57 for the quarter or $1.20 per share after adjusting for notable items related to the acquisition. Notable items related to the Union Bank acquisition are comprised of three primary elements that reduced earnings per share by $0.63 related to balance sheet optimization, merger and integration costs, and the impacts on provision expense related to acquired loans and actions taken to optimize the balance sheet. During the fourth quarter, the company recognized a one-time $399 million pre-tax loss on a net basis related to several actions taken to optimize the balance sheet, manage the interest rate volatility impact on capital levels, and position the company for future growth. Subsequent to obtaining regulatory approval for the transaction, we entered into interest rate hedges to manage rate volatility and its related impact on regulatory capital from the date of approval through the closing of the transaction in December. During that time frame, long-term interest rates increased nearly 50 basis points before declining approximately 65 basis points. The interest rate swaps were terminated at the time of closing, and the losses recognized through earnings largely offset the interest rate marks recorded into the balance sheet through purchase accounting. In addition, the company optimized its balance sheet by selling certain loans and repositioning its investment portfolio on certain equity investments. Within non-interest expenses, we incurred merger and integration related charges of $90 million that primarily included the impact of specific deal closing costs, professional services, and employee-related expenses. We also incurred a $791 million charge to the provision for credit losses, which reflects an initial provision impacted by the acquisition of $662 million and a net loss of $129 million related to the securitization of approximately $4 billion of legacy indirect auto loans. Again, these moves enabled us to more effectively position the balance sheet for profitable growth and optimize returns. Slide 8 provides a more detailed earnings summary. Union Bank, which was included in our consolidated results for one month, contributed $302 million of revenue, $221 million of non-interest expenses, $81 million of operating income, and $44 million of net income to the company, representing $0.03 per diluted share. On slide 9, end of period loans increased 13.3% on a linked-quarter basis to $388 billion, which included core loan growth and acquired loans from Union Bank. Union Bank contributed ending loan balances of $54 billion net of purchase accounting adjustments, partly offset by a reduction in balances of $15 billion related to balance sheet optimization actions, including loan sales and securitizations. Slide 10 provides end-of-period deposit balance composition. End-of-period deposits increased 11.4% on a linked-quarter basis to $525 billion driven by the acquisition, which contributed $86 billion of lower-cost deposits, and actions taken as a result of the deal to optimize our funding sources. On a core basis, we saw deposit balances decline slightly this quarter. Turning to slide 11, the investment securities portfolio grew 4.2% linked quarter to $170 billion. The addition of securities from Union Bank was offset by balance sheet optimization actions. Slide 12 highlights revenue trends. Adjusted net revenue totaled $6.8 billion in the fourth quarter, which included revenue contribution of $302 million from Union Bank, primarily representing net interest income. For legacy U.S. Bancorp, net interest income grew 5.5% on a linked-quarter basis and 29.2% year-over-year driven by strong earning asset growth and net interest margin expansion, which benefited from rising interest rates. Results were partially offset by higher deposit pricing and short-term borrowing costs. Non-interest income, as adjusted for the legacy company, declined 3.0% compared to the third quarter driven by seasonally lower payment service revenue and lower commercial product revenue, offset by stronger mortgage banking revenue. Year-over-year, legacy adjusted non-interest income declined 5.5% driven by lower mortgage banking revenue from reduced refinancing activity and lower servicing charges, offset by stronger payment services revenue and trust and investment management fees. Turning to slide 13. Adjusted non-interest expense totaled $4.0 billion in the fourth quarter, including $221 million from Union Bank. Included in expenses was approximately $42 million of intangible amortization due to core deposit intangibles established at the time of the acquisition. Legacy non-interest expense, as adjusted, increased 3.8% on a linked-quarter basis largely driven by higher compensation-related expenses as well as higher expenses related to professional services, marketing, technology, and tax credit amortization. Slide 14 shows credit quality trends. We reported total net charge-offs for the quarter of $578 million. After adjusting for acquisition impacts and the balance sheet optimization activities, net charge-offs totaled $210 million or 0.23% of average loans, up from 0.19% in the third quarter, which reflected the continuing normalization of credit losses. Non-performing assets for the legacy bank increased slightly, while Union Bank contributed $329 million to the total. On a combined basis, the reported ratio of non-performing assets to loans and other real estate was 0.26% at December 31, compared with 0.20% at September 30, and 0.28% a year ago, reflecting continued strong credit quality. The provision for credit losses was $1.19 billion, which included a provision of $791 million related to the acquisition and balance sheet optimization activities. This provision includes an initial provision impacted by the acquisition of $662 million and $129 million related to our balance sheet optimization activities. The allowance for credit losses as of December 31 totaled $7.4 billion or 1.91% of period-end loans, which reflects increased economic uncertainty and the incorporation of the Union Bank portfolio. Slide 15 highlights the drivers of our linked-quarter common equity Tier 1 capital position. As of December 31, our CET1 capital ratio was 8.4%. Acquisition impacts of 180 basis points included an increase in goodwill and other intangible assets that reflected the impact of credit and interest rate marks, the initial provision for credit losses, balance sheet optimization actions, as well as the increase in risk-weighted assets with the addition of Union Bank. These impacts were partially offset by an increase to equity related to shares issued to MUFG as part of the purchase price of Union Bank. Slide 16 provides our current expectations of certain financial metrics related to the transaction. The financial and strategic merits of the deal remain intact and are very attractive. Earnings per share accretion is now expected to be 8% to 9% in 2023, which is higher than originally estimated. While our tangible book value per share dilution is higher than initially estimated due to the significant impact of rising interest rates on the interest rate marks at close, our estimated earn-back period is only slightly longer than our original estimate at two years versus our original estimate of 1.5 years. Slide 17 provides a comparison of credit and net fair value marks from the time of our announcement to closing. Credit marks are lower due to favorable changes in portfolio composition and credit quality, partially offset by economic deterioration. Interest rate marks, inclusive of loans, securities net of sales, and debt, are higher than anticipated at announcement due to higher interest rates, but we expect that to accrete quickly back through earnings. The core deposit intangible is also higher than originally estimated, reflecting the increased value of lower-cost core deposits in a higher rate environment. I will now provide first quarter and full year 2023 forward-looking guidance, which is provided on slide 18, starting with the first quarter 2023 guidance. We expect average earning assets of between $605 million and $610 billion in the first quarter and the net interest margin that is five to 10 basis points higher than the fourth quarter level. Total revenue is estimated to be in a range of $7.1 billion to $7.3 billion, including approximately $100 million of purchase accounting accretion during the quarter. Total non-interest expense as adjusted is expected to be in the range of $4.3 billion to $4.4 billion, inclusive of approximately $125 million of core deposit intangible amortization related to Union Bank. Our income tax rate as adjusted is expected to be approximately 22% to 23% on a taxable-equivalent basis. We anticipate merger and integration charges of between $200 million and $250 million for the quarter. I will now provide guidance for the full year. For 2023, average earning assets are expected to be in the range of $610 billion to $620 billion with net interest margin expansion of between five to 10 basis points compared with the fourth quarter of 2022. Total revenue is expected to be in the range of $29 billion to $31 billion, inclusive of between $350 million to $400 million of full year purchase accounting accretion. Total non-interest expense as adjusted for the year is expected to be in the range of $17 billion to $17.5 billion, inclusive of approximately $500 million of core deposit intangible amortization related to Union Bank. Our estimated full year income tax rate on a taxable equivalent basis as adjusted will be approximately 22% to 23%. We expect to have $900 million to $1 billion of merger and integration charges in 2023. I will now hand it back to Andy for closing remarks.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks, Terry. We accomplished a lot this past year, including the completion of the Union Bank acquisition and strong legacy PPNR growth supported by positive operating leverage on an adjusted basis. Union Bank adds significant scale to our business and deepens our commitment to serving customers and creating economic opportunities for communities across the West Coast. We continue to target a Memorial Day weekend systems conversion, incorporating a lift-and-shift approach to our applications, which mitigates risk and allows us to more quickly capture meaningful cost synergies. There is still a tremendous amount of economic and geopolitical uncertainty, and we are preparing for any scenario. I believe we will perform well because of the strength of our business, a strong balance sheet, and the great team we have. As we've proven during previous economic downturns, our business model is resilient and recession-ready in large part due to our disciplined through-the-cycle credit underwriting standards and robust risk management infrastructure. Our consumer clients are predominantly prime, super-prime, and our commercial book is generally investment-grade, and we have very little leverage lending commitments. We are focused on prudent balance sheet growth, high return, high margin opportunities, and the prudent allocation of capital to lines of business and products best served to deliver on our strategic objectives. Our growth strategy is focused on creating value for our customers, communities, and shareholders, which allows us to generate industry-leading performance. Let me close by saying thank you to our 77,000 employees across the company, including our newest colleagues from Union Bank. Your dedication and commitment are what make U.S. Bank special and the destination of choice for all the constituents we serve. We'll now open up the call for Q&A.

Operator, Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. And we can first go to Scott Siefers with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Good morning, Scott.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Hi, Scott.

Scott Siefers, Analyst

Maybe a question for you. Just at the top level, was hoping you could speak to what balance sheet and capital management will look like for you. So you're still under $700 billion in assets. But any thought on limiting growth, or will there be additional sales or securitizations to help keep you under there? And then, I guess, on repurchase, I know we're on pause until we get back to the common equity Tier 1 target. But with the looming category move up, would there be any thought to hold off longer than that just to sort of see what happens? Just any thoughts on either of those would be great, please.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Scott, I'll start. This is Andy, and Terry will add in. So first of all, we're not limiting growth in the company. One of the reasons we positioned the balance sheet and took the optimization actions we talked about, Terry went through, was to allow for profitable growth. It also was related to the credit box that we manage within as well as the returns that some of those categories of assets that we securitized were returning. So those are all allowing us to grow in a profitable way in the future. As we talked about before, we do not expect to cross the threshold of Cat II until the earliest at the end of 2024, and that’s into the new category at that time. And if we have any further balance sheet optimization actions in securitizations, they would be very nominal and not material in nature. Terry, what would you add?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. No, I would just again reiterate, we're ready to be able to adopt Category II by the end of 2024. But there's no real cap. We wouldn't expect any real significant balance sheet optimization from here. And we spent a lot of time positioning the balance sheet for growth as we go forward.

Scott Siefers, Analyst

Wonderful. And then just sort of thoughts on repurchase as well? I know we're on pause for now, but it's still sort of a crush mark, so would be curious to your thoughts?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah, Scott. So as we've said in that, we continue to expect that. We are starting about a good spot, about 8.4% CET1. We expect that to creep up to at or above 9% by the end of next year, and it will continue to accrete in 2023 and continue to move up from that particular point. So one of the things we'll do is once we get to above 9%, we'll have to make an assessment as to all the different things that are happening out there from a regulatory perspective. I mean, you have the regulators looking at Basel III and having to think about Category II and those sorts of things. But I think it's really going to be based upon what the landscape at that particular point in time looks like. But certainly, in terms of our core CET1, it will create nicely throughout 2023.

Scott Siefers, Analyst

Wonderful. All right. Appreciate all the thought. Thank you.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Thanks, Scott.

Operator, Operator

Next, we can go to Erika Najarian with UBS. Please go ahead.

Erika Najarian, Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Good morning.

Erika Najarian, Analyst

And thank you for all the detail that you gave us on the slides. My first question is on the cadence of the cost synergies as it relates to your expected Memorial Day weekend conversion. So first clarification question, the 35% cost synergies, is that a target for full year 2023? And what is that cadence like? Do we expect very little in cost synergies until Memorial Day weekend and then an acceleration in cost synergy capture as the systems converge?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah, Erika, great question. And just to confirm, our expectation is that of the $900 million of cost synergies, we'll see about 35% of that next year in 2023. And so from a cadence standpoint, with the Memorial Day conversion, the vast majority of those cost synergies will start to really kick in subsequent to that system conversion. So smaller during the first half of the year, and much more significant of that 35% in the second half of the year.

Erika Najarian, Analyst

Got it. So in other words, we should anticipate an exit rate by 4Q 2023 of well above 35%?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. By the time we get to the end of the fourth quarter, we will have incorporated the vast majority of the cost synergies such that by the time we get to 2024, we will be in a good position to have achieved 100%.

Erika Najarian, Analyst

Got it. My follow-up question is about the economic outlook. Could you remind us what is included in the legacy U.S. Bank reserves regarding the GDP and unemployment outlook? Additionally, how do you foresee charge-offs for legacy U.S. Bank trending based on that outlook, especially as many of your peers expect a mild recession from this point forward?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes, I would say that our expectations are probably consistent with that sort of thought process. When we are thinking about the reserve, our base case is that there is a mild recession probably in the second half of the year, and that unemployment ticks up and GDP is either relatively flat or down a bit. When we go through the reserving process, as we've said in the past, we end up looking at five different potential scenarios all the way from a base case to a severe sort of recession. And I would say that from a reserving perspective, we're a little bit weighted towards that downside scenario, so a little bit more conservative. From a charge-off perspective, our expectation, kind of using the baseline of about 23 basis points in the fourth quarter, that that will continue to normalize throughout the year. We'll see both the delinquencies and charge-offs moving up. But to kind of give you some perspective, our pre-pandemic was at 50 basis points. We probably don't see that until sometime into 2024.

Erika Najarian, Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Thanks, Erika.

Operator, Operator

And next, we can go to Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Good morning, Mike.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

Hi. Hey, good morning. I just wanted to clarify. So, you made your positive operating leverage in 2022 over 200 basis points. If you back into the numbers, I'm getting positive operating leverage year-over-year all-in of somewhere between, I don't know, 100 to 900 basis points. I'm not sure if that's correct. And if you back in the numbers, what do you get? And why the such big variance in the revenue guide? That's a $29 billion versus $31 billion. And why is the margin still increasing five to 10 basis points in the fourth quarter? That's a bit more of an improvement versus others.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

I'll start on a couple of things and then Terry will add in. So, let me sort of go backwards on your questions. The margin is increasing principally because of the value of the low-cost deposits that Union Bank brings on. We talked about that a lot, Mike, and $85 billion of principally consumer low-cost, stable deposits in this environment is very valuable in driving up that margin on a quarterly basis. And that's reflected in that five to 10 basis points. We did achieve 230 basis points of positive operating leverage in 2022. We would expect to achieve continued positive operating leverage into 2023. But 2023 is going to have the merger-related charges in it as well. So I'm looking at it on a core basis. And Terry, what would you add?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. Just maybe kind of coming back to the net interest margin, we expect to see lift related to Union Bank coming on, that five to 10 basis points and then from there, kind of flattish to maybe moderate increase or expansion in net interest margin through the rest of the year. But clearly, deposit betas and things like that are going to accelerate a bit in 2023.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

And as a follow-up, look, U.S. Bancorp had been a low-cost producer for a long time. It looks like you're going to trend back in that direction. So it sounds like you still have no change in expected synergies. I get it, Union Bank is performing better, and that's why the accretion you had brought higher, the 8% to 9%. But still no change in expected synergies from the acquisition? And then separate from that, Andy, you mentioned in December that the big tech investment cycle is now turning positive versus being a drag the last five or so years. If you could elaborate on that? Thank you.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Sure, Mike. And you're right, we still are projecting, as Terry went through, $900 million of cost savings, 35% in 2023, 100% fully implemented in 2024. Importantly, we have not in the guidance that we provided, provided any revenue synergies. So it's without revenue synergies, which we think there are going to be some particularly after the integration and conversion process. We are past the heavy spend on tech. You're right, we're more of a flat line and starting to gain the benefits of that. And part of the benefit of this transaction is leveraging the investments we've made in the company over the last three or four years to allow us to lift and shift to our technology platform in a very low-cost way. So that benefit is driving through the synergies that we talk about.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

Thank you.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks, Mike.

Operator, Operator

And now we'll go to John Pancari with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Good morning John.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Hi John.

John Pancari, Analyst

Good morning. Regarding the credit metrics, I understand that you mentioned experiencing normalization in charge-offs and delinquencies. Could you provide more details on which income cohorts are showing this normalization? We've heard from some consumer finance companies that this normalization is extending beyond just non-prime and low income to include prime and super-prime as well. Additionally, which asset classes are you observing the most significant normalization? Is it primarily in credit cards, or are other asset classes also affected? Thank you.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. I mean, this is Terry. So maybe to address your first question in terms of where we're seeing it. And maybe as a reminder, from an underwriting perspective, we focus on prime, super-prime really in all of our consumer portfolios. To the extent that we're seeing delinquencies starting to tick up, it's more so in the credit card space. And you're right; it would be probably on the lower bands as opposed to the upper bands at this particular point in time. But one of the things we talked about is that when you look at savings or excess savings from a consumer perspective, they're fairly significant. That is coming down; as that's coming down, people are revolving more on their credit cards. And I think it's just kind of a natural progression that we are seeing. And again, starting more with the unsecured and the credit card portfolio, not as much with respect to the other portfolios yet. But as things continue to normalize, we would expect that too.

John Pancari, Analyst

Okay. Thanks. Terry, that's helpful. And then I guess related, how does this development in consumer behavior and your macro assumptions as well, how does that impact your expectations for your payments revenue and your card revenue and merchant processing revenue as you look out through the year, considering the macro dynamics? Thanks.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Yeah. So the payments revenues, you saw, still is well above pre-COVID levels. The card spend is 25% above. On a year-over-year basis, we're up 5%. So spend continues to be strong. The categories of spend are shifting a little bit. And we would expect continued strong spend, but moderating a bit as we go into the rest of 2023 for the reasons that Terry mentioned. But still expect growth, but again, probably more moderate in nature as we go forward and the savings levels start to normalize and the consumer behavior starts to change.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. And the thing that I would end up adding, John, is that one of the things we've talked about in the merchant processing is that, we think that business is kind of a high single digit. And when we look at 2023, that's kind of our expectation for that particular business. Relative to 2022, we anticipate that our credit card revenue or card revenue will strengthen a bit in terms of year-over-year comparisons. And that is primarily because prepaid sales and prepaid revenue, which has been a drag, kind of starts to moderate. And then on the corporate payment card business, we continue to think that that's going to be reasonably strong, certainly high single digits, if not low double digits. And that's – we're continuing to see travel and entertainment recover very nicely in that particular space. So we feel pretty good about the payment revenue trends for 2023.

John Pancari, Analyst

Great. Thank you, Terry. Appreciate it.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yep.

Operator, Operator

Next, we go to Ebrahim Poonawala with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Ebrahim Poonawala, Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Good morning, Ebrahim.

Ebrahim Poonawala, Analyst

I just want to follow up one on credit. So you talked about consumer. Looking at the CRE slide, just if you don't mind talking – sharing your perspective around the CRE book, if you're beginning to see any softening either in certain markets, maybe California or within the office CRE book, which is about 10% of loans.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. I mean, maybe at a high level, certainly from a CRE perspective, valuations, I think, are moderating to some extent. The areas that we have had probably the greatest focus on if you will, is really office space. And that is really probably as much tied to return-to-office sort of behaviors or patterns. And I think that, that is probably a longer-term sort of structural adjustment that's going to end up happening. We're just going to have to watch it over time. But when we just kind of look at the core CRE portfolio, it continues to perform pretty well from a credit perspective at this particular point.

Ebrahim Poonawala, Analyst

Got it. And I guess, just one separate question around payments. When you think about in your slide, you mentioned about some of the tech investments and partnerships. Just give us a sense of – remind us around competitive positioning for USB, how you're thinking about just market share outlook and from this partnership standpoint, like areas of like secular growth that you see in this business?

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Yeah. As you mentioned, we've made a lot of investments in tech-led activity, and our tech-led investments have led to that being the principal area of growth for the merchant processing categories. And then on the card side, the partnership's component continues to be an important strength for us and a point of growth as we look forward. So those two areas, tech-led on merchant and partnerships on card, are doing well and it's partly due to the investments we've made over the past few years.

Ebrahim Poonawala, Analyst

And is the strategy there to just build this in-house, or do you see more kind of bolt-on acquisitions within that business?

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Many of the investments we made are focused on enhancing our internal capabilities and platforms to support various activities and integrate with the software used by the company to operate its business. We've also engaged in various acquisitions that add complementary capabilities. I believe we will continue to pursue a combination of both strategies as we move forward.

Ebrahim Poonawala, Analyst

Good. Thank you.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Sure.

Operator, Operator

And we can go to Gerard Cassidy with RBC. Please go ahead.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Morning, Gerard.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Morning, Gerard.

Gerard Cassidy, Analyst

Hi Andy, hi Terry, congratulations on closing the deal. Question for you, Terry, about the balance sheet optimization regarding the decision to sell off certain loans. Can you provide some details about the types of credits included in those sales? What was the reason for their selection? I understand they didn't meet your credit profile, but could you elaborate on the specifics of those credit profiles?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. When we considered balance sheet optimization, our focus was on repositioning it for future growth to enhance profitability while examining profit margins across different portfolios and their risk profiles. Specifically, we evaluated the portfolios from Union Bank that we acquired and concentrated on several key areas. One was the loans obtained through a lending club channel, which we initially planned to phase out over time. Upon reviewing the credit risk profile and origination methods, we decided it was prudent to address this upfront. Another area was the sale of some commercial real estate within their portfolios to reduce concentration. On the U.S. Bank side, we targeted a lower-margin indirect auto loan portfolio, securitizing around $4 billion from it. Additionally, we reassessed relationships in our corporate space that had lower returns and allowed some to run off during the quarter. These were the main areas of focus for our balance sheet optimization. Lastly, regarding the investment portfolio, we sold approximately $15 billion in securities, primarily from Union Bank, to manage interest rate risk and other considerations.

Gerard Cassidy, Analyst

Terry, in the corporate loans, did you have any shared relationships, meaning did you have exposure to XYZ company as Union Bank and determine that the total was perhaps too high, prompting you to reduce that exposure?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. Exactly. So, maybe from a risk perspective, looking at hold levels or concentrations with respect to specific customers, yes, that was a part of the strategy.

Gerard Cassidy, Analyst

Very good. And then just as a follow-up, you guys obviously gave us very good detail on your slides. And on the credit quality, slide 14, you give us the breakout in the net charge-offs, and you show us the reported number at 64 bps versus your core legacy number of 23 basis points. If I pull out the $189 million from the optimization, it looks like the net charge-off ratio is around 43 basis points, including the Union Bank numbers. Is that the level we should gear ourselves to for 2023 now that Union will be fully implemented into your business?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. Let me clarify. So it's 64 basis points on a reported basis, 23 basis points on a core basis. And there's two components to that core; the balance sheet securitization that I talked about that you articulated. But then under CECL, what you end up having to do is you have to recapture loans that they have charged off. You have to make an assessment. And then if you believe that, that charge-off was appropriate, you have to charge that off on day one, so to speak. And there was about $173 million of charge-offs related to that kind of day one effect associated with CECL. So there's really kind of three components. But 64% on a reported basis, 23% on a core basis. And when we think about going forward, I would use the 23 basis points as the start point, and that's about $210 million worth of core charge-offs.

Gerard Cassidy, Analyst

Thank you for clearing that up. I appreciate it.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah.

Operator, Operator

And next, we can go to Betsy Graseck with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Betsy Graseck, Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Hi, Betsy.

Betsy Graseck, Analyst

Hi and congratulations from my end too. And the deck is super clear. I really appreciate all the effort to make it simple and straightforward. So a couple of questions for me, just to follow-up on the discussion we just had. Could we also talk a little bit about how we should think about the reserving level as we go through 2023 and into 2024? Because like you said, you've got the fair value marks, you had to do the day, you had to do the add as per the CECL rules. So does reserve ratio stabilize from here? Does it actually inch down? Is there a scenario in which it would move higher? Could you just frame out how we should think about that? Thanks.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. I mean, obviously, it is impacted by a lot of different things in terms of how economic uncertainty ends up changing and the mix of the portfolio, how it might change. But as we think about 2023, I think that, that 191 basis points is probably a good metric throughout the year. It might inch down a little bit. But I think that, by and large, we feel pretty comfortable with that as we think about 2023 based upon our base case, so to speak.

Betsy Graseck, Analyst

Okay. And then I have one other question on the growth of the balance sheet. I know you addressed this a bit before. But when I look at the 2023 guide versus 1Q 2023, it's a slower growth rate than I think we're used to seeing at USB. So maybe you could help us understand, is this a moderated growth rate during the integration phase and maybe second half that should accelerate up, or is this the level of growth that we should anticipate? And then if you don't mind, I have just a couple of ticky-tackies on the purchase accounting and the CDI and how we should expect that steps down into 2023 and 2024.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Sure. Betsy, this is Andy. So first, on the growth rate, I think 2022 had exceptional loan growth across many categories, led by commercial as well as CRE. So what we would see is that more normalizing. You're starting to see that in the fourth quarter. And I think the other fact is that, the growth rates are impacted by average balances and some of the optimization activity that we took down in the fourth quarter. It was a partial quarter in the fourth quarter, full quarter in the first quarter and the rest of 2023. But the principal driver is a function of loan demand, which is moderating a bit across most categories. So it's still growing but less than what we saw in 2022.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

And then, Betsy, maybe related to your second question, which was around the recognition of the core deposit intangible over time, probably the way that I would think about it is that, it will amortize into income over about a 10-year period. It will step down, and probably a good way of just modeling it is assuming kind of a sum-of-the-years digit sort of approach.

Betsy Graseck, Analyst

And same thing for PAA, or how should we think about that? I mean PAA, I know it's different, but PAA change...

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. So that's tied, obviously, to the life of the loans. And it will end up being impacted by prepayments and all sorts of things. If you end up looking at their portfolio that we acquired, about half of it is residential mortgage and half of it is corporate in shorter term. So probably, if you ended up looking at an average life of four, five years, four to six years, that sort of time frame, then of course, that will also accrete probably a little bit faster on the front end.

Betsy Graseck, Analyst

Okay. Thank you for that.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yep. Thanks, Betsy.

Operator, Operator

And next, we'll go to Vivek Juneja with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Good morning, Vivek.

Vivek Juneja, Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Congratulations. A couple of questions. The tangible book value recovery, the crossover and the fact that you'd recover that back quickly, can you just give any color on sort of what's the key driver of that? Is it just simply earnings, or is there something else underneath that also that's going to help that come back so quickly?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. It's principally the accretion effect that we're going to see with respect to Union Bank, the marks and the underlying earnings of the company.

Vivek Juneja, Analyst

Okay. So the – because I just heard you say, the accretion – the question that Betsy asked, purchase current accretion that half the loans are mortgages. So that will take – come down, I guess, over more slowly? So is that part of it that pre-purchase accounting accretion is going to stay high for longer?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. No, I really think it's just – it really is the kind of the 8% to 9% accretion levels that we're expecting on ... The UB side?

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Yeah.

Vivek Juneja, Analyst

Okay. Got it. Okay. A couple of other little ones. Deposits, the decline that you had in the balance sheet optimization, I think it's pretty sizable, $24 billion. Is it all UB, or is it some of yours? And which types of deposits?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

It's a great question. Regarding deposits, we concentrated on optimizing a few specific areas. We evaluated LCR ratios and considered higher-cost deposits, including those related to brokerage or euro dollar deposits. After obtaining regulatory approval, we made a deliberate choice to adjust our strategy. On the Union Bank front, it's important to note that approximately $8 billion to $9 billion in deposits were transferred over, which are more transitional in nature. Over time, these deposits will return to their global investment bank as customers shift back. About half of this amount moved in the fourth quarter, and I anticipate the rest will transition in early 2023. Essentially, we focused on exchanging high-cost deposits for lower-cost ones coming in from Union Bank, along with the related impacts from Union Bank.

Vivek Juneja, Analyst

What was the OCI number at the end of the year? Considering the transition to Category II, how quickly do you expect that to improve so you can be in a better position?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. At the end of the year, OCI is approximately $8 billion, and the duration of the portfolio is slightly over 5%. This assumes that rates remain stable. From an investment portfolio standpoint, around 52% to 53% is held to maturity. We have also engaged in some pay-fixed swaps, effectively increasing that to the high 50s. We believe we are well-positioned to manage any potential increases or decreases in rates, providing us with some flexibility. Overall, we feel confident in our position.

Vivek Juneja, Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

And next, we can go to Matt O'Connor with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Matt O'Connor, Analyst

Good morning. Can you talk about the pace of the capital build from the 8.4% to around 9% by the end of the year? And then also, if the macro is worse than expected and you have to build reserves more, I realize that doesn't move the capital that much. But obviously, everyone else is starting at a higher point of capital, and there is a focus on how quickly you can get to that 9% or even higher. So, I guess the question is like what levers can you pull to kind of aren't that painful if you need a little bit more, such as issuing preferreds or some other assets that you could kind of exit without hitting earnings that much? Thank you.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes, from a balance sheet optimization perspective, we are prioritizing profitability and returns. Capital is valuable, so we want to allocate our resources for asset growth wisely. The growth pace is projected to shift from 8.4% to just over 9% by the end of 2023, which should be relatively consistent throughout the four quarters. The first quarter may be slightly lower due to the absence of cost synergies and the likely increase in merger-related costs early in the year because of the system conversion timing. Consequently, growth will likely be more prominent in the latter part of the year. In terms of reserves, we examine various scenarios, including a severe recession, and anticipate unemployment could rise to 6% to 6.5%, yet we believe we would still be in a strong position regarding reserves. If unemployment exceeds that, we may need to explore additional balance sheet optimization actions.

Matt O'Connor, Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks, Matt.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Thanks, Matt.

Operator, Operator

And we'll go to Ken Usdin with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Good morning, Ken.

Ken Usdin, Analyst

Good morning, everyone. My first question is about the outlook for the year. Could you explain your underlying assumptions regarding how net interest income is projected, particularly in relation to the core business and the impact of deposit costs and betas on the trajectory from the fourth quarter of net interest income?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Net interest income will be influenced by the growth in earning assets and margin expansion. We expect margin expansion of five to ten basis points in the first quarter due to the full quarter impact of Union Bank. From there, we anticipate the margin will stabilize, with a slight increase. On the deposit side, deposit betas are expected to rise, which will contribute to a slower rate of net interest income and margin expansion in the latter half of the year. It's important to note the impact of Union Bank-related deposits in the first quarter, and we will continue to seek ways to optimize our deposit portfolio.

Ken Usdin, Analyst

Okay. And then just one follow-up on the deal impact. Can you just remind us what type of like amortization period you're using for both the purchase accounting accretion and the CDI in terms of like, is this the run rate that we keep around for a few years, or does that change as you look past 2023? Thanks.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Well, I think that again, in 2023, we expect the purchase accounting accretion to be $350 million to $400 million and the CDI to be about $500 million. As I mentioned earlier, I think on the CDI it steps down over time. But if you use a 10-year assumption and sum of year’s digits, I think that will get you from a modeling perspective pretty close to how I think it will end up amortizing off. The purchase accounting is really going to be tied to the asset lives because about half of it is mortgage and half of it is corporate and commercial, et cetera, and shorter-lived assets. I think you can think about that four to five-year sort of time frame, and it probably accretes down into a similar fashion, a little more front-end weighted.

Ken Usdin, Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thank you, Terry.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah.

Operator, Operator

And next, we can go to Chris Kotowski with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Hi Chris.

Chris Kotowski, Analyst

Good morning. Hi. Following up a bit on Mike and Ken's questions. If I look at your very helpful slide 18 on the guidance and I take the midpoint of $7.1 billion to $7.3 billion revenue range and I day weight that to the full year, I kind of get the lower range end of the full year guidance. 29.2 is actually what I get. So that implies like a couple percent growth in the back half of the year, which again, I guess, is better than what a lot of banks are saying. And I'm wondering, is that just underlying loan growth or fee income growth, or is it the tag-ins of the benefits of rising rates, or what do you see driving that?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Well, again, I think you do see kind of the full year effect associated with rising interest rates kind of come into play. Fee revenue, on a legacy basis, as an example, we should see a little bit more of a tailwind next year as opposed to what we experienced this year. So I think that those are kind of coming into play. And then I think that just timing of being able to get cost synergies on the expense side.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Yeah. And I'd add, it's probably just mathematically, as you were talking about it, you're right. And it's a little bit of growth in the earning assets that you see there going up from 605 to 610 to 610 to 620. That's number one. And then maybe going towards the high end of that range and net interest margin versus the mid or low end in the early quarters.

Chris Kotowski, Analyst

Yeah. Well, it's interesting because if I do the same analysis on the non-interest expense side, you're at the high end of that. So it implies kind of nice growth in pre-provision earnings through the course of the year. So – but anyway, that's it for me.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

All right.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Thanks, Chris.

Operator, Operator

And our last question in queue will come from Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo Securities.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Hey, Mike.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

AOCI, was it – I'm just going to remember here, $12 billion, now it's $8 billion? And where is it as of today?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

AOCI overall is at $10 billion at the end of the year and expect it to come down from there.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

At a lower level today, Mike.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

And then, Andy, just can you pull the lens back a little bit? It's been a rough 3, 5, and 10 years when you look at operating leverage in stock, not last year on the operating leverage. But that comment you made in December and you addressed briefly, but you've been in this investment cycle multi-years. And now you said that you're coming out of it or the drag is less or maybe the spending is less and the payoffs are more. Can you just give us more color on both the spending side and the payback side and where you've invested the most and where you expect that payback? Because it sounds like you're crossing a line based on your comments from December and that you reiterated today? Thanks.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. Thanks, Mike. I think that's a fair representation. So we – our spend levels on pure CapEx were – grew from about $800 million to $900 million to $1.2 billion, $1.3 billion. And that growth has been in the run rate for the last couple of years. So you would not expect to see additional continued expense increase related to CapEx. Importantly, we also migrated that spend from about 60% defensive to 60% offensive. So the spend is on activities like digital capabilities, reaching customers, products and services, and so forth. So all of that is what's coming through to right now, so a level set on the expense side plus a return on the investments from a revenue side. That, coupled with overlaying all that on the Union Bank customer base, is why we're projecting the numbers that we're giving you.

Mike Mayo, Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks, Mike.

Operator, Operator

We do have time for one more question. And we'll go to John McDonald with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Andy Cecere, Chairman, President and CEO

Good morning, John.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Hi, John.

John McDonald, Analyst

Good morning, guys. Hey. Just a couple of quick follow-ups. So Terry, where does the balance sheet repositioning and the merger leave you in terms of interest rate positioning? How would you describe it here, fairly neutral, a little bit asset-sensitive, where you're ending up now?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yeah. I would say that, legacy U.S. Bank is fairly neutral. When we add Union Bank on, it probably adds about 50 basis points of asset sensitivity in a 50 up sort of shock environment.

John McDonald, Analyst

Okay. And then on the fee income, you said some more tailwinds this year, some helpers on legacy U.S. Bancorp. What are those on the fee income front? What are the helpers this year that you can grow fee income? Maybe just puts and takes on fees real quick.

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. Well, if you just kind of look at the different components, I think the payments revenue continues to be reasonably strong. I think that the expectation is the market comes back a little bit in terms of investment income. But deposit service charges, we saw a drag in 2022 because of some pricing changes we implemented in May. That starts to dissipate. So, I think it will be kind of a combination of things. But probably one of the biggest ones is just mortgage banking revenue. That has been a pretty significant drag, especially on a year-over-year basis. And in the fourth quarter, we actually started to see that inflection point with linked-quarter revenue starting to come up, and we would expect that to be a little bit stronger as we go into 2023.

John McDonald, Analyst

Okay, got it. And then the last clarification. I think on reserves, you said the 1.9% ratio looks pretty good for this year. And even if unemployment went to 6%, 6.5%, you'd be okay?

Terry Dolan, Vice Chair and CFO

Yes. Again, we go through a lot of different scenarios and we take that downside into consideration and as part of kind of that weighted average process. We think 6%, 6.5% unemployment is already incorporated into our reserving process. But again, it all is going to depend upon what ends up happening, how severe the economic recession is, if there is one at all. So, I think there's just a lot of moving parts.

John McDonald, Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator, Operator

And we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn it back to George Andersen. Please continue.

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Operator, Operator

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