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Capital Markets Day · 2026-10-05

L Air Liquide SA (AIQUF) October 2026 Capital Markets Day Transcript

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Speaker 33

As the invisible backbone of industry and healthcare for over a century, what we deliver is often unseen. What we enable is tangibly real. A plant running safely.

Speaker 15

A patient receiving vital care. A new solution unlocking our customers' full potential.

Speaker 35

Behind all this, something essential is at work.

Speaker 33

Our molecules, technologies and innovative mindset. advancing manufacturing, sustaining health care, and helping society progress.

Speaker 15

Our teams across the world making a difference as they care and work hand in hand with customers, patients, and communities to deliver performance with purpose and create lasting value. Day after day, this is what drives us forward.

Speaker 35

Earning the trust of our customers and patients by standing by their side for their success, shaping together tomorrow's progress.

Speaker 13

That is why, listening to the world around us, and to those who count on us, we are going beyond.

Operator

Good day everyone, and a warm welcome to our Capital Markets Day. Our full leadership team will unveil beyond our new strategic plan, and they will answer your questions. Let me now hand over to Joe, who will assist you through the presentation.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thanks a lot. And welcome, everyone. We will begin with a one-and-a-half-hour presentation. Then, following a five-minute break, management will host a Q&A session. Additionally, starting now, you may write a question using the button at the top right of your screen. To dive right into the strategy and set direction for our plan, I'll turn the stage over to Francois.

Thank you, Joe. Good day, everyone, and welcome to Air Liquide's 2026 Capital Markets Day. Thanks to all of you who are attending today. It's a real pleasure to be here with the management team of Air Liquide. This is an important moment. I know this CMD is something that you have been looking for. Many of you know us very well, So I am convinced that you will fully appreciate the state change we are introducing today. Four years ago, I was here with the team sharing our strategic plan advance. Since then, in a rapidly changing and challenging global environment, Air Liquide has demonstrated extraordinary resilience and agility, outperforming the advanced objectives in terms of growth, profitability and extra financial impact. We haven't just navigated market shifts. We have used their momentum to transform the group. Today, we stand as stronger, more profitable and more agile, fully positioned to serve better our customers and accelerate our performance and maximize lasting shareholder values through 2030. Air Liquide is a proven earnings compounder. Over the past 30 years and through every economic cycle, we have averaged over 7% annual operating income growth and that growth has accelerated over the last four years. This long-term track record and the profound transformation initiated with advance give us the springboard for our next strategic phase reach a new frontier in lasting value creation under our strategic plan beyond we have built and refined an exceptional business model since the air gas acquisition we have accelerated cash generation by over 10 percent per year, while cutting our leverage in half, reducing NEP debt to EBITDA from 3.3 down to 1.5 times. This disciplined financial stewardship now gives us financial balance sheet strength and capital allocation firepower. On these strong foundations, we have established an outstanding platform for future profitable growth. Air Liquide occupies a truly unique competitive position. We pair an extensive global footprint with deep local market integration, ensuring close customer proximity and engagement. As a technology pioneer, we continue to lead innovation across our industry. Supported by an ongoing group transformation program and a renewed performance-driven culture, we are moving beyond. In this next phase, our focus is simple, maximizing lasting value creation. Long-term performance is in our DNA and will remain. To beyond, we are taking our momentum further, pursuing sustained growth, accelerating profitability and driving superior total shareholder return all while fulfilling our commitment as a responsible corporate actor. In this volatile world, with conflicting trends, it is essential to stay the course. Beyond is built to deliver, built to win. Success means, first, profitable growth, delivering profitable growth, measured by a compound annual EPS growth rate of 10%. Second, delivering lasting value measured by keeping the return on capital employed above 11% in 2030, even as we aggressively invest much more than before. And third, of course, making a positive impact by continuing our CO2 reduction trajectory. These three objectives are more than just targets. They are our North Star, driving every strategy, decision and success through 2030 and beyond. They matter to us. And listening to you, I know, they matter to many of you too. Let's go deeper. To start with our EPS objective, I will walk you through how we will accelerate bottom-line value creation. Under the Beyond Plan, we are combining three primary financial levers to drive consistent EPS growth. First, sales growth, growing at 5% per year on average, which means outperforming industrial production by two to three times. Second, margin improvement. We have a clear line of sight to deliver 400 to 600 basis points of OIR margin expansion over the next five years. Third lever, capital allocation optimization. Deploying our strong cash generation into high return gross investments, accretive M&A, solid dividends and, for the first time, we also include another tool in our toolbox to deliver value, a significant share repurchase program. Again, setting an objective of double-digit growth EPS over the period is a clear step change. Keep in mind that we overrated 7% per year over the past 20 years. This is our commitment and responsibility to leverage in a flexible and determined way the three levers of growth, margin improvement and capital allocation to ensure we stretch ourselves to cope with many opportunities and challenges and at the end, we deliver lasting value. Let's break down each of these levers to grow EPS. How we will expand our business? We see three distinct growth engines, which Francois, Marcelo and others will detail later. Let me give you an overview. First, with sharper strategic focus, we will extract greater value from our existing base. Serving millions of customers across all geographies through diverse product lines and distribution networks, we see significant room for further optimization. By leveraging big data and AI, advancing gas application, driving network densification, and deploying continuous innovation, we will maximize assets utilization, optimize our cost structure, and capture accretive pricing. Next, we see substantial opportunities in key growth markets, several of which we will dive into shortly. In a few minutes, you will also see how our innovation leadership across core and high-growth markets will make a difference. Lastly, when available, we will seize large strategic acquisitions, building on major successes like DIG in Korea, a strong growing electronics market, while continuing our track record of accretive Bolton acquisition. Adam, Emily and Roni later will explain how we execute this strategy in various geographies. As I mentioned, innovation is key to our differentiation and ongoing growth. Armel will explain it later, but what I would like you to remember is that by pioneering first-of-its-kind innovations we are expanding our addressable markets and continually reinforcing our long-term competitive mode. We are confident that our continuous strategic investments in innovation will sharpen our commercial edge by meeting the needs of our customers and drive top-line momentum. But this isn't just about revenue. Innovation is equally crucial in expanding our profitability and expanding our margins. At RdKid, performance is in our DNA, and beyond is about stepping up our margin expansion. This is our second core lever to drive EPS growth. Our global group transformation program launched in 2024 is the primary engine behind this performance step change. Mathieu and David will go into more detail, but let me share already some concrete examples. First, organization efficiency. Against all odds, we have already reduced overall headcount by 6%. Approximately 4,000 positions. Also, shared services migration. In 18 months, 18 months alone, we have shifted 30% of group processes into global business service center in optimized location. Also, resource efficiency. We cut specific energy consumption by another 3% since 2024. And finally, AI deployment. Over one third of critical group processes are already enhanced by AI. We are already in motion, and BEYOND will accelerate even further this momentum across four operation pillars until 2030. First, continuous steamlining of our organization structure, everywhere in the world. Second, leveraging our global scale, for example, in procurement. Third, unburdening local teams so that they can focus on customer satisfaction and operational excellence. And lastly, deploying AI as an enterprise platform to maximize structural efficiency. With these pillars, we target to further improve the margin by 400 to 600 base points for the period. This is quite ambitious. Our third level to our EPS growth target of 10% is capital allocation. Our approach to maximize lasting value is clear, direct and disciplined, backed by a renewed and optimized capital allocation policy. Thanks to improved profitability over the past few years, Air Liquide has now the balance sheet strength to aggressively fund high return growth while stepping up shareholder returns. Over the timeline of this plan, we will deploy more than 40 billion euros of capital in industrial investments, of course, more than in the previous period, while maintaining our robust dividend payout ratio around 60%. At the same time, we remain fully agile in accelerating value-accreative bolt-on and strategic acquisition. The major evolution today is the launch of a new, flexible and significant share repurchase program. Powered by our structural performance, this program enables us to compound long-term equity value while preserving our gross investments and our A credit rating. This is new and already ambitious as we plan 4 billion euro for share repurchased in the first two years of the plan as Jérôme will detail later on. What is important is that having this tool in our toolbox is an additional way for us to accelerate value delivery to our shareholders at a level that reflects the potential of a liquid. We will execute it in a pragmatic way, keeping in mind all the levers of lasting value creation. And we will execute it with determination as we are confident in the long-term value creation capability of the group. One key element that supports our confidence in the future is the exceptional EADKID teams. We will continue to empower our organization while embedding absolute accountability at every level. We have fully aligned our incentive structure with our Beyond Objectives, fostering a high-performance culture that is reflected directly in our delivered results. To our 65,000 dedicated employees around the world, we owe a huge thank you for their continuous commitment and passion to serve our customers. Simply put, I believe that we have the finest, most talented team in the industry and we are fully equipped and committed to deliver. To conclude this introduction, I hope you already appreciate the step change in our ambition and our confidence in delivering this strategic plan. There are a lot of materials built on very solid ground to support Orbeon plan. The way we will drive our actions is through three interconnected pillars. First, we listen and care. We listen deeply to and care about all our stakeholders, our customers, shareholders, employees, and the communities in which we operate. This empathy and understanding is the starting point for everything we do and is truly a competitive edge. Second, we grow. Our top-line expansion is powered by multiple, highly diversified growth drivers and sustained by our innovations. Third, we perform, which gives us the means to grow. Listening and adapting has transformed air liquid into an agile, high performance organization we will execute with precision empower our teams and hold ourselves strictly accountable to deliver sustainable and enhance profitability now the leadership team will take you through each pillar step by step jérôme will then follow with the financial outlook and I will wrap up before we open for Q&A. Thank you very much for your attention. Let's go beyond.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Francois. Framing our strategy around three interconnected pillars provides a clear roadmap. In just a moment, Adam will explore our first pillar. We listen.

We always strive to listen to our key stakeholders. And this is even more important today as we navigate in an environment that is more and more challenging. We aim to be as close as possible to our customers and to listen and adapt to what they're telling us. We're a critical partner, and by listening to them, we can better anticipate their needs and their trajectories. We're well-positioned to leverage these engagements into game-changing opportunities as we have the global scale and customer intimacy to do so. And we're using AI to improve the overall customer journey. By embedding our solutions to evolving customer dynamics into our core strategy, Air Liquide consistently delivers high customer satisfaction metrics. And it's not only customers. We listen to and care for all of our stakeholders. We listen to employees. In listening to their collective voice, we hear what's important to them. A safe and respectful work environment. employee development and career opportunities, meaningful and engaging work, and a simplified organization. Empowering our people creates an agile, high-performance culture that drives engagement and productivity. We listen to our shareholders. Aligned with their priorities, we drive long-term value creation illustrated by the historic total shareholder returns that Francois presented. We match their desires for increased returns with steady dividend growth and now a robust share repurchase program. And we address concerns around climate risk exposures by committing to emissions reduction. We listen to society. We remain fully engaged in and offer full transparency to NGOs, suppliers, public bodies, as well as the local communities in which we operate. By listening and caring, we are then able to adapt and position ourselves for the best opportunities to grow our business in a resilient and responsible manner. And speaking about responsible growth, Diana will say a few words on our environmental impact. Diana.

Thank you very much, Adam. Turning to environment, and before starting, yes, it still matters. actually now more than ever. We are convinced that performance, sustainability and resilience are closely intertwined. In practical terms, we strive for tangible impact. Let me tell you where we put the focus. First, we stay firmly the course on decarbonization, maintaining our target to reduce CO2 scope 1 and 2 emissions by 33 percent by 2035. And how are we going to do that? Actually through three levers. Low carbon electricity sourcing, active asset management, including the industrial efficiency projects, and as well electrification, and last but not least, carbon capture and storage. We are convinced that these actions will also improve our resilience. Let me recall that we have been able to reduce our scope 1 and 2 emissions by 5 million tons since 2020, and that we have been able to sign 5.6 terawatt hours per year of low-carbon PPAs. And this is just a start. Second, we are introducing a new objective aimed at reducing direct water withdrawals at our sites. As water becomes increasingly scarce, reducing water usage at our sites, it serves both a performance and as well as a resilience driver. And last, we are raising the bar on climate change adaptation. In the face of accelerating climate change, we aim to strengthen adaptation plans around the world, focusing specifically on high-priority industrial sites and supply chain assets. Over the past few years, Air Liquide has demonstrated its ability to combine financial and sustainability performance. In today's volatile world, environmental performance is no longer just a matter of conviction. It's a core competitive asset. By decarbonizing our own footprint and providing decarbonization solutions to our customers, we enhance our competitiveness, reinforce our resilience, and we support lasting growth.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Adam and Diana. listening to stakeholders and acting responsibility has to be the first step of the process. Now, let's step into We Grow so we can see how active diverse sources of growth. Marcelo, Francois, over to you.

Thank you, Joe. As was pointed out, listening to our customers does more than inform our strategy and position us for future growth. Ultimately, it is what has driven our successful track record for 30 years.

Speaker 20

That's right, Marcello. It led us to develop and implement cutting-edge technologies in electronics, starting in the early 80s, and to expand into home healthcare in the mid-90s.

Staying close on the ground to the regional developments had thus executed transformative acquisitions like Cargas in the US and DIG in South Korea.

Speaker 20

Listening to customers and understanding macroeconomics also has us building a defensive, resilient business clearly demonstrated during global disruptions like the financial crisis of 2008 or COVID-19. Beyond resilience, we see plenty of attractive growth opportunities in the coming years on which we will elaborate further. growing that solid operational foundation over the long term provides an excellent springboard for accelerated value creation under beyond powerful megatrends continue to redefine our industry creating structural multi-year demand drivers across the world reshoring and sovereignty are driving the localized rebuilt of critical supply chains technology and innovation will be heavily utilized to translate these micro-shifts into long-term customer solutions. Digitalization and energy infrastructure. The massive expansion of computing power demands unprecedented semiconductor manufacturing capacity and will generate significant growth in construction, electrical equipment and metals. Aging population and urbanization create sustained defensive demand across healthcare.

These global trends translate directly into structural long-term growth vectors for LEKID throughout the beyond horizon to 2030. In basic commodities, in the context of reshoring and reconfiguration, we will capture new growth through industry's arbitrage of energy costs and supply. Our model adapts to the different speed and forms of energy transition projects by having a comprehensive set of solutions for hard-to-abate sectors. This will help to drive low single-digit growth in basic commodities. In manufacturing, we support production electrification, automation, and resources efficiency by developing or deploying systems and tools that optimize customer energy and resources footprint. This will sustain mid-single-digit growth in manufacturing to 2030. In electronics, we build on our comprehensive leadership position with ultra-pure carrier gas on-sites and innovative advanced materials, delivering the uncompromising reliability and low-carbon footprint required by Tier 1 semiconductor fabs. This structural driver will support double-digit growth for early-kid in electronics. In healthcare, to meet surging healthcare demand while navigating public budget constraints, we leverage our integral home care models, digital monitoring platforms, and AI-powered solutions. This approach significantly lowers the overall cost to serve while improving patient outcomes, driving mid-single-digit growth. Thank you, Marcello.

Speaker 20

You're absolutely right. Let's dig a little deeper. Under We Grow, we showcase how our liquid compounds growth through multiple diverse sources of growth, maximizing our base, capitalizing on fast-growing end markets and executing targeted, accretive acquisitions. This should lead to an overall sales growth of 5% plus or minus 1. All powered by our global innovation, and we tailor this strategy with precise differentiated execution across our geographic hubs. First, we will get more from our base. We are refocusing to unlock maximum value from our installed asset base by increasing the capacity loading of our existing infrastructure, by expanding customer density across key industrial basins and accelerating bolt-on acquisitions as well as restructuring others when required. Simultaneously, we will elevate customer value through advanced gas applications which optimizes their processes and deploy dynamic tools that optimize price management. As always, we will be enforcing strict benchmarking to maintain top-tier industry-leading customer satisfaction.

Thanks, François. Let me start with a customer perspective.

Speaker 4

With 2 million customers in 59 countries, Air Liquide detects industrial changes to identify opportunities, anticipate customers' needs, and support their growth. And that makes all the difference.

Speaker 2

Hennig is a sheet metal manufacturing company. We make machine protection equipment. We've been doubling every year for the last seven years. As we grow, Airgas helps us find ways to take our costs down.

Speaker 1

Airgas, a division of Air La Key, provide Hennig with all their gas, from their welding gases and cutting gases to their welding supplies, equipment, technology, technical support, repair safety products, and abrasives. So we're pretty much a one-stop shop for Hennig.

Speaker 2

They're taking care of all the welding supplies, which is a big undertaking for 500 welders. They're like a partner, somebody we can grow with and we can count on and that we can come to for solutions so we can be more competitive for our customers.

Speaker 34

We have a variety of resources and professionals that come in and help manage their business and help them be more competitive in the markets that they serve in. And that really differentiates us from any of the competitors that we do see across the country.

Speaker 2

They're, you know, a solutions-driven company. When there's an emergency, they're just a phone call away.

Speaker 4

The real measure of Air Liquide's scale is the value they create for their customers.

Speaker 2

They're a critical part of what we do. They're able to look at our needs, look at what we're trying to achieve, understand what we're after, and tailor-make a solution for Hennig.

Speaker 4

Overall, by building trusted relationships, Early Kids teams help their customers succeed while reinforcing their own competitive advantage.

Speaker 2

We're able to focus on our manufacturing, getting their experts in to guide us through what equipment we need and what we need to be successful and, you know, think outside the box and not thinking about this year, but thinking about 10 years, you know. They're always one step ahead.

As you saw in the video, Early Kids is a trusted long-term partner, an organization with whom our customers reliably grow. By pairing our technical experts with proprietary performance databases, we directly optimize customer welding productivity across our merchant business. Beyond these core applications, we see expanding merchant momentum across the entire vastly expanding data center value chain, supporting facility construction power infrastructure advanced cooling and safety systems as well as secondary electronic supply networks these are a few examples of how we intend to get more from the base moving on to our next source of growth key growth markets we're excited to give you a better understanding of these underlying drivers of these attractive markets let us begin with a video on a key growth market for us, electronics,

Speaker 20

to showcase in particular our capabilities in advanced materials.

Speaker 4

As massive demand for AI and cloud computing drives the semiconductor market, the need for smaller, more powerful chips is rising. These new chips require two things, higher volumes of ultra-pure gases and a brand new generation of advanced materials. Air Liquide plays a critical role by supporting continued miniaturization and higher chip performance with the purity and reliability required for atomic-scale manufacturing. As the number one player across all major semiconductor hubs, Air Liquide is at the heart of the industry. This leadership is backed by more than 200 large-scale ultra-pure carrier gas production units worldwide. Beyond these essential gases, Air Liquide stands apart through its unique expertise in advanced high-value molecules for the most critical manufacturing steps.

Speaker 23

They are specifically designed for and with our customers to not only help them achieve greater performance, but also lower greenhouse gas emissions in their production.

Speaker 4

Ehrlicheed's expertise covers the full value chain from molecule development and customer qualification to industrial production and inside fab delivery. Molybdenum is a prime example of this distinctive capability. By offering superior conductivity, this revolutionary material is replacing tungsten in next-generation memory and logic chips. Air Liquide anticipated this shift over a decade ago, ensuring to be ready when the customers needed it.

Speaker 7

We were the very first to offer a complete solution, our saline offer, of ultra-high-purity solid molecules and first-of-its-kind distribution systems.

Speaker 4

The Sublime Breakthrough technology is the first large-scale solution ever launched on the market to convert solid molecules into gas directly inside the customer's fab. Air Liquide deployed this solution in South Korea and is now expanding in the U.S. Once qualified, advanced materials become embedded in customer processes and technology roadmaps, supporting recurring demand and business visibility, while strengthening Air Liquide's competitive position. By combining expertise and long-term partnerships with the semiconductor leaders, Air Liquide turns breakthroughs into billions of chips and captures a high-growth market opportunity.

As that video illustrates, this is a very exciting time. A unique growth opportunity with global cheap volumes projected to compound as plus 8% annually through 2030. And I will show you why we are so uniquely positioned at Air Liquide. Our expansion in electronics is driven by a powerful compounding effect. growing chip volumes multiplied by rising gas intensity per chip from complex 3d architectures advanced packaging and additional manufacturing process steps as air liquid is a mission critical partner for the semiconductor industry we regularly meet with the top management of every key strategic player across the globe just two weeks ago in my exchanges with customer in the us or last month in asia i could observe a key structural shift the market is no longer the usual cyclic one we experienced in the previous decade which was very reliant on consumer electronics demand is now driven by data centers in particular for hyperscalers google amazon Microsoft of the likes and they are taking all fab capacities for the next few years hence the acceleration of fab construction we observe and moreover demand for connected devices is currently under supplied and it is ready to take over so in that very exciting market context it is important to remind that air liquid is the number one market leader in electronics trusted by the world's top tip makers. But why are we the number one? First, we stand apart as the only industrial gas player offering a complete value chain portfolio with carrier gas, advanced materials, electronic specialty materials, equipment and installation and services. Second, because we bring innovation. As the only industrial gas player in advanced materials we develop our own patented molecules thanks to our dedicated R&D and we operate as an embedded developer directly alongside the top ship makers. In Carrier Gas we have developed our own advanced technology over the years and scaled up our plants tenfold over a decade and we are continuously improving their competitiveness. But third, we have the stronger customer intimacy. We have a completely centralized commercial organization covering each strategic customer with a dedicated team of global experts that can replicate what we do well in each geography to ensure the highest seamless service to each specific customer. And I can assure you our customers keep telling us they love it. And you see, with deep customer intimacy, decades of unmet reliability and breakthrough innovation, our competitive advantage continues to strengthen. But now you might be interested in how this translates into growth. At the end of June, electronics represented 50% of the group's 12-month investment opportunities. And to capitalize on this extraordinary megatrend, we are deploying significant high-return strategic investments over the beyond the horizon, supporting a highly de-risked double-digit sales growth through 2030. And here is the kicker. Over half of this growth is already secured by signed long-term take-or-pay contracts. So, in more details, what are the growth drivers? As I said, we are delivering a clear, highly visible compounding engine in electronics, scaling revenues from 2.5 billion in 2025 to over 4 billion by 2030, and with a contribution tail extending well beyond 2030. So, this is equating to a reliable double-digit annual growth exceeding 10% over the billion period. And this momentum is powered by four strong vectors. First, our high-performing install base. Second, the rapid expansion of our high-margin advanced materials. Third, and you like it, a locked-in de-risk project backlog. and fourth, an aggressive pipeline conversion. Our backlog visibility today is nothing short of exceptional. It has surged by 80% over the last two years alone. And as of June 2026, Electronics represents 40% of the entire group's investment backlog. and moreover it is diversified and spanning over 26 major capital projects and in the upcoming two years we will start up plans in every single strategic electronics hub in the US in Europe as well as in Asia with China Singapore Taiwan Korea and Japan and you know this is really unique among all industrial gas players so this geographical footprint shows that we are super well positioned to capture the growth wherever it happens air liquid really sits directly at the heart of this industry's expansion how are we going to deliver that our strategy leverages two growth engines, Carrier Gas and Advanced Materials, and together they account for nearly 70% of our electronic sales today. First Carrier Gases, you're familiar with them. They form our rock-solid foundation, generating stable, highly predictable cash flows backed by 15 to 20-year long-term contracts with full cost protection. With over 20 new facility startups scheduled through 2028 this represents long-term revenue visibility and accelerating on top of that baseline is our high margin advanced materials portfolio stronger and the portfolio first to market advantage in the next generation chip solutions create growth opportunities and as an example and as you saw in the video our molybdenum precursors which we were the first to introduced to the market, are projected to grow at over 30% annually, driving both top-line expansion and continuous marginal creation. Today, our molecules play a direct role, and they are now so well embedded in semiconductors that they are present in each and every smartphone, and tomorrow, potentially, in every data center.

Speaker 20

And now let's move to our second main growth market the energy transition francois the floor is yours thanks armel at air liquide our perspective is clear energy transition remains more than ever a priority and it rests on three very solid arguments first climate change remains an undeniable reality and stakeholder demand for meaningful decarbonization has not diminished. In Europe, public policy and regulatory frameworks actively reinforce commitment to respond. Second, China views low-carbon technology as a major long-term competitive advantage and is now investing heavily to secure it. And do not count out the US. We are seeing select opportunities developing there as well. We are firmly convinced that the energy transition is durable, longer-term megatrend. Third, the energy transition is key to risk management and security. But don't just take our words for it. Let's hear directly from our key customers on how they are navigating their own decarbonization journeys and how Air Liquide is partnering with them to make it happen.

Speaker 4

Decarbonizing industries is key to tackling climate change. Here, two global leaders explain how they rely on the expertise of Air Liquide.

Speaker 24

More energy, less emissions, this is our motto. And definitely, this energy transition will require participation of many stakeholders, from regulators to encursadors, but also, of course, some very strong industrial players. Technology is at the heart of this journey.

Speaker 19

As sustainability drives profitable growth, Holcim is expanding our sustainable offering. Decarbonizing concrete and cement requires innovations in formulation, energy and advanced technologies such as carbon capture, utilization and storage.

Speaker 24

We are turning this vision into reality from multiple decarbonization levels from expanding renewable energy to developing some low carbon hydrogen. We are definitely paving the way across Europe with some key flagship projects like Grand Puy, Lamed for biohydrogen or Normandai, all these projects together with air liquid. So we have developed along the last 10 years quite a strategic cooperation.

Speaker 19

Recently, HaltSim launched the first industrial-scale carbon capture test platform. Together with Air Liquide, CaptureLab allows us to test and validate both current and the next generation technologies with ultimate goal of making net zero cement and concrete a reality at scale.

Speaker 24

In the FID that we can take, the performance who will be based on technologies and trusted partners are very important.

Speaker 19

Air Liquide is a leader in industrial carbon capture with decades of expertise in that field.

Speaker 24

Air Liquide, of course, from this perspective, is capable of delivering complex projects safely, reliably, and at scale. And this is why both companies need to ensure that the technology we are developing to pay their will support the Trillemna affordability, availability, sustainability.

Speaker 19

And we work as one team. Our partnership helps reduce technical risks and accelerate execution.

Speaker 24

We have decided to develop new projects with air liquid, in particular in the Netherlands and Belgium, with two projects, Energist and Engator, for the production of some 45,000 tons of green hydrogen per year.

Speaker 19

We are currently developing five major projects together, ranging from Go 4.0 in Belgium to Olympus.

Speaker 24

So really it's a strong partnership, professionalism, engineering and I would say the same vision of the economic challenge and the pace to achieve with energy transition.

Speaker 20

This structural growth market is underpinned in some geographies by industrial sovereignty and supply chain reshoring. And we possess the operational agility required to adapt to varying paces of the energy transition in each geography and create leading positions in an emerging but long-term market. Our energy transition pipeline is moving from strategy to FIDs, to execution, to startups. Today, we have eight major projects under active construction, ranging from 100 to 500 million euros in dedicated capital investment. Leveraging our proprietary, sometimes first-of-the-kind technologies were capturing high-value opportunities. In total, energy transition projects represented 2.2 billion euros of our backlog at the end of 2025. Looking forward, we expect 2.5 billion euros of additional investment decisions in such projects between now and 2030. These projects will be carefully selected and rigorously screened to ensure they meet the same double-digit return hurdles and disciplined IRR requirements with demand across all of our capital investment. They will also carry the added benefit of long-term contracts with take-or-pay clauses. These projects will begin to contribute over 700 million to top-line growth during the beyond time frame and further contribute in the next period. The energy transition is a key driver towards our top-line growth to drive our EPA objectives by 2030, as well as to support our CO2 reduction engagements. Now let me hand over to Diana to speak about healthcare as the next key growth market. Diana, please.

Thank you, François. Our healthcare activity is a driver of robust growth and resilience for the group as it is decoupled from industrial production. It will actually deliver a robust and resilient growth of plus four to six percent during the beyond period. Now let me tell you what drives our growth. Long-lasting demographic and societal tailwinds are unlocking healthcare demand around the world. Global life expectancy has increased by eight years since 1995. The WHO expects a global shortage of at least 10 million healthcare professionals in 2030. Under budget constraint, hospitals focus more and more on acute and critical care. And as a consequence, healthcare payers are actively seeking value transformation to compress overall spending. In this context, we have a unique position across the entire patient pathway, from hospitals to patients' homes. By directly integrating our primary production footprint with our specialized medical gas distribution network, we seamlessly serve, for example, oxygen to hospitals, all the way to patients with chronic long-term care at home. Why does it matter? We accompany the patient through every single step, from hospital admission diagnosis and prescription to the personalized care at their home and in case of exacerbation of their disease the patient returns to hospital for acute care and afterwards comes back home again we are there all along and i can tell you from my recent visits of patients in brazil they all prefer to be treated at home and value our services ensuring the continuum of care between medical gas at our hospitals and servicing patients at home. Why is it important? Not only it delivers enhanced patient outcomes, it also drives structural cost savings for overburdened healthcare systems worldwide. Moving forward, starting with our medical gas activity, we will deliver growth by accelerating our always-there value offer at hospitals. Thanks to our products and services, physicians and nurses can focus on their patients and they tell me this is this precious time safe for them. Growth will be driven as well by expanding beyond hospital customers. Let me show you some examples. We will serve emergency medical services, nursing homes in Europe and as well the ambulatory surgery centers in the US. This will enlarge our portfolio of customers while unlocking enhanced operational synergies. By aligning our marketing and supply chain capabilities with home healthcare and industrial merchant, we maximize synergies and add value for the long term. In home healthcare, market dynamics are very compelling. Global healthcare spending is projected to surpass 10% of global GDP by 2030. Already today, Chronic diseases are the number one spanning, driven in part by the stark reality that one-third of all adults now live with at least one chronic condition. At the same time, this structural shift from expensive acute care at hospitals to home-based care continues to gain momentum. All this accelerated by digital patient engagement and AI-powered augmented care. With these tailwinds, we create a highly resilient long-term growth and cash engine for Air Liquide. As the number one global leader in home healthcare, we serve today 2.3 million patients across 30 countries with over 10 million annual interactions. So we are able to effectively manage high volumes to deliver this exceptional value to patients while actively reducing systemic healthcare costs. Importantly, Erli Keats stands as the industry leader in profitable value generation. First, by combining a highly selective geographical footprint with continuous adaptive restructuring and very disciplined bolt-on M&A for density, we maximize operational leverage and help reduce healthcare spendings. Second, customer centricity as a core value. These relationships of trust with patients, caretakers, and prescribers built over years through human and digital support, giving them the peace of mind and the ability to focus on what matters most. Enhancing patient outcomes, we are delivering the right level of care at the best cost for healthcare payers. And last but not least, as a front runner in agentic AI, we unlock dual value. For patients with an enhanced patient experience. And for prescribers and payers by accelerating operational efficiency and scalable growth. Through standardized global processes, data quality, and robust data governance, we scale AI solutions that transform the market while driving long-term profitability. It's a clear differentiator for us. Let me share a on how we scale superior value in customer relations before handing it over to Marcelo.

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At this scale, high performance is essential. By combining artificial intelligence with our team's expertise, we boost our efficiency and customer satisfaction. We handle these volumes with much faster response time, ensuring every patient receives an accurate answer and unmatched quality of care.

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Thank you very much, Diana. A compelling growth catalyst for LKID is a rapidly expanding private space sector, particularly in the United States. As technological scale drives down launch costs, launch frequency is accelerating, creating a near 1.8 billion euros industrial gas market by 2030. Air Liquide has been supporting clients and building deep expertise across the entire space value chain for over 60 years. We currently supply every major space hub in North America. We are successfully leveraging our historical foundations with the likes of NASA and the European Space Agency to capture the high growth potential of private launch providers. While this high growth market today consists primarily of merchant bulk volumes and equipment sales, we foresee a potential transition toward long-term over-defense supply contracts that secure return of capital invested. Even under conservatives' adoption curves, the growth runway in space remains very strong. Air Liquide has entrenched client relationships and expertise to capture this high growth potential, making it a continued key growth market. Moving now to the next of our diverse source of growth, acquisitions. François.

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Thank you Marcello. We remain very active in portfolio management throughout the advanced period, closing 67 Bolton acquisitions and conducting a major asset takeover in South Africa. Concurrently, we optimized our operational footprint, completing 29 targeted divestitures to ensure our capital is concentrated in high growth geographies and resilient profitable businesses. Looking ahead into the Beyond Strategic Plan, there remains a long runway, with 40% of the market still held by independent players. Meanwhile, the post-merger integration of DIG Airgas is progressing flawlessly and adding meaningful momentum to our growth profile. Our objectives are clear. We will execute Bolton acquisitions to increase network density, expanding to new geographies, And complete with strategic M&A to capture significant cost and growth synergies, all driving disciplined value creation for faster EPS growth. Moving now to the next of our diverse sources of growth, innovation, over to you, Armel.

Thank you, François. Now, let me explain to you why innovation at Air Liquide is an operational engine. Our technology leadership sharpens our competitive position. It unlocks new high-margin markets and it drives long-term shareholder value. End-to-end innovation, which means taking breakthrough directly from the lab to full industrial plant scale is one of our primary growth engines. and it is also a core differentiator for driving market leadership. Through our PACE framework, we accelerate time to market, we optimize capital efficiency, we secure first-mover advantages across fast-growing global markets. Our end-to-end innovation strategy spans four strategic pillars that cover the complete technology lifecycle. First, pioneering future markets. We anticipate tech disruptions early. We position air liquid for long-term growth. For example, in advanced materials, like you saw in the electronics video, but also in deep tech and digital healthcare, as shown before. Second, accelerated industrialization of first-of-its-kind solutions. We scale game-changing energy transition technologies, including cryo-cap for carbon capture, large-scale PEM electrolyzers, ammonia cracking, and liquid hydrogen. Third, competing through the optimization of total cost of ownership or developing AI to support our operational excellence. And last but not least, enabling new gas applications for our base to optimize existing customers' networks, like, for example, additive manufacturing, battery manufacturing, and advanced chip packaging and testing. Now, I would like to illustrate with a few examples. air liquid technological excellence is pioneering advanced materials that push the boundaries of the infinitely small by engineering breakthrough precursors and ultra-pure materials we enable chip makers to achieve unprecedented speed while reducing energy consumption which is still a major challenge for this industry. And as the semiconductor industry scales towards the most advanced nodes and high bandwidth memory, our own patented molecules are powering the world's most sophisticated AI chips. And also through AI, we accelerate time to market for advanced materials to predict molecules' properties and identify candidates for lab testing. In fact, we are not just supplying the market. We are developing the molecular foundation for the next generation of power-efficient, ultra-fast AI computing. Another example I would like to share in a completely different market. In deep tech, we develop frontier technologies and we cross-pollinate them across our global footprint. Let's take our Turbo Brighton cooling technology. It was originally proven on the International Space Station and scaled to over 300 units in LNG shipping. And now it is offering solutions for superconductivity cables and data centers. Finally, in industrial merchant, we innovate as well and in very strong connection with our customers, to develop technologies to boost gas sales in every market. Let's take an example in additive manufacturing, a fast-growing market surging from 200 million to over 450 million by 2030. Our own patented flow mapping unit ensures perfect gas distribution during 3D printing. And why is it important? Because this innovation makes Air Liquide completely indispensable to the process and drives high-value gas sales worldwide. Air Liquide leverages its global scale and first-of-its-kind technologies to transition breakthrough discoveries from successful pilots into commercial market-opening solutions. We systematically derisked and scaled assets across our core growth market. Electronics carrier gas units, we talked about them, but carbon capture and storage, electrolyzer, ammonia cracking for energy transition, and space, of course. Looking ahead to 2030, we will drive innovation-led growth by leveraging our global integrated lab-to-plant organization with our 5,000 experts and 300 more partnerships, and of course maintaining a disciplined spending of 300 million euros per year. Air Liquide remains the undisputed innovation and tech leader in our industry.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Armel. We clearly have multiple growth drivers across Air Liquide. Now let's see how that's balanced per geography. For that, Adam, Emily, and Ronnie are joining us and will detail America's EMEA and Asia, respectively. Let's start with Adam for the Americas.

I am very bullish on the Americas. Under the Beyond Strategic Plan, we're targeting a top-line sales growth of 5% to 6% per year. These are great numbers. As the market leader in the U.S. industrial gas sector, we will leverage our unrivaled platform to capture significant growth by capitalizing on strong domestic growth tailwinds. Driven by a doubling of the overall electronics gases market by 2030, the U.S. market growth is further supported by some key trends, including reshoring, data center proliferation, infrastructure, defense, and space. Crucially, structurally competitive domestic energy costs ensure long-term industrial activity and strong operating leverage. And we're leveraging our position. In IAM, we continue to densify our package gas business, maximize asset loading, manage the price-cost curve, and accelerate bolt-on acquisitions. And healthcare is positioned to gain volumes both in and out of the hospitals, with price being supported by increased value offers look at the momentum in electronics we have secured major landmark wins across the united states backed by hundreds of millions of dollars in targeted investments across advanced memory leading edge logic and high bandwidth memory advanced packaging and future project development for electronics looks equally impressive major carrier gases, startups, and advanced materials business will push our electronics growth rate in the United States above 10%, which is significant. With signed contracts in large industries, and get this, we've already secured over 80% of large industries and electronic startup contributions for the beyond period in the United States. Over to you, Emily.

Thanks, Adam. So let's move on to EMEA. We deliver growth while taking decisive actions to restructure and optimize our operational footprint. In Europe, as high energy costs weight on the competitiveness of the industry and our customers, we are proactively reshaping our asset base and right-sizing our operations to offset headwinds. Navigating this environment requires deep regional expertise and our experienced leadership team is driving exceptional resilience and agility. This agility allows us to capture high-value growth in Europe. We are leveraging our strategic asset base and our market leadership in the region and across energy transition, healthcare, and electronics markets, supported by a highly skilled workforce and innovation capabilities. Throughout the BEYOND plan, we aim to deliver a resilient plus 2% to 3% growth. Key growth drivers include the start-up of five very large energy transition projects currently under construction, including the Normandy electrolyzer, which you've all heard about, and which we'll start up in a few weeks. We are also pursuing selective new contracts in hydrogen, carbon capture and cement, while capitalizing on sovereignty and reshoring trends. By accelerating asset loading and optimizing our footprint, supported by a steady growth in our healthcare business that represents 30% of total EMEA sales, we are positioning Europe for long-term profitability. Meanwhile, across Africa, the Middle East and India, our growth trajectory is accelerating. Powered by major project startups, strategic asset takeovers and an energized industrial merchant strategy centered on pricing discipline, asset loading and bolt-on acquisitions, we are targeting above 10% sales growth. So to conclude, if you remember one thing, by pairing selective and profitable high-value growth in Europe with significant expansion opportunities across Africa, the Middle East and India, EMEA stands as a solid engine of long-term value creation.

Over to you, Ronnie. Thanks, Emily. Asia is a powerhouse, home to five of the top 20 industrial gas markets, which are mature, stable economies, but with incredibly dynamic high-growth economies because of the semiconductor expansion. We leverage the group because we'll have synergies in innovation, process standardization, and operational efficiencies. how will we build and drive our number one regional position in electronics we're well on our way to committing upwards of three billion euros of carrier gas investments over the beyond period we're already expanding our high margin advanced materials footprint we've doubled our operational scale in south korea following the dig air gas acquisition and now we leverage and we're driving competitivity in our products through modularized, standardized solutions. Because of this, electronics will now be 40% of Asia-Pacific revenue in 2030, up from 29% in 2020. In large industries, we're going to find high-value strategic asset takeovers, and we'll optimize our network loads, and we'll capture the high-value petrochemical wave in China, which is just beginning. In industrial merchant, we will have network density because of the creased of bolt-ons. And with our strong commercial and pricing discipline, we'll have sustained margin growth. Our top-line growth goes in hand in hand with bottom-line performance. Relentless execution, we commit to strong margin expansion, underpinning our 8% to 9% and top-line revenue growth across Asia.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

We've established how listening to our needs of our stakeholders drives our growth. Now, let's focus on the next lever, how Air Liquide will step up margin improvement. To walk us through WePerform, I'll turn the floor over to Matthew.

Performance is in Air Liquide's DNA. Today, my objective is to outline the concrete actions driving our margin expansion. We are committing to a plus 400 to 600 basis point margin target by 2030, and here is exactly how we will deliver it. First, we are not starting from scratch. In 2024, we launched a deep transformation program to significantly boost profitability, shifting from a decentralized model toward a more globalized, performance-driven culture. With BEYOND, we are stepping up, targeting, as I said, an additional four to six hundred basis points over the next five years. Execution rests on four complementary pillars. Active commercial management and operations, organizational streamlining, global structural efficiencies and local efficiencies. Underpinning all four pillars, AI-powered operations are a key transversal accelerator. In short, this level of margin improvement is not an aspiration. It is a structurally back target. So let's go through each of these pillars. Let's start with the first one, the commercial and operation lever. It represents familiar ground for Air Liquide. and we are dramatically accelerating execution to maximize margin expansion. We are systematically optimizing our price-cost trade, driving high-value volume and mix, and constantly rightsizing our portfolio. In fact, our active portfolio management, which, as mentioned by François, comprise 67 targeted acquisitions and 29 strategic divestitures over our advanced period, proves our discipline we are continuously deepening footprint density in core basins while exiting non-core margin dilutive assets let's now go through the three remaining pillars let's start with our streamlined organization first we are mobilizing a streamlined highly agile organization built for sustained performance. We are leveraging further a model that has already delivered strong results. Since late 2023, we have reduced set count, excluding scope changes, by 4,000 or 6% of our workforce. We've achieved this by reshaping our geographies and global business units, flattening our structure, removing up to three management layers globally, and integrating operations such as merging medical gases and industrial merchants in Europe or shifting our Canadian activities directly into our U.S. operational setup. This enabled us to capture immediate high-value synergies. As we transition into beyond, we are maintaining this momentum. As an example, based on top-tier consulting benchmarks, we are right-sizing corporate functions to represent under 1% of total group headcount, refocusing our head office strictly on core strategy, company policies, and performance monitoring. A very simple model ensuring a strong operational discipline. Moving to our second pillar, global efficiencies representing 50% of the structural efficiencies under Beyond. As we evolve from a decentralized model, we are now unlocking the full power of our global scale through discipline governance, standardized end-to-end processes, and enterprise-wide tools convergence. We are driving this strategy across three high-impact pillars. Industrial excellence. We have established a unified global industrial direction to roll out high return operational initiatives worldwide, and David will detail them. Procurement scale. After expanding our global procurement organization with members no more reporting to local operations, we are now expanding centralized sourcing and leveraging our global volume in leading competitive regions to capture more structural cost reductions. In global business services, we are freeing up local operational teams from transactional tasks across finance, procurement, IT, and HR. Our GBS organization stands at over 1,700 associates in low-cost geographies. and we will double this capacity by 2030 while reducing headcount in high-cost countries. This is a major step in our operating model transformation. We already process over 3.5 million of supplier invoices per year in this organization. It is one of the many, many demonstrations of the foundations we have built and that will propel us further. Supporting all three functions is our digital and IT team and, of course, our AI infrastructure built explicitly to deploy AI applications at scale. So David will detail our industrial operations, fuel or beyond ambition. The unified global industrial organization that is built is a benchmark model that we are now replicating across additional functions through relentless internal and external benchmarking, simplified and standardized process execution, and an AI-boosted knowledge platform, we are instilling a high-velocity performance culture that accelerates excellence across our organization.

David? Thank you, Mathieu. A new unified single global industrial organization is key in delivering Beyond Strategic Ambition, a true engine for competitiveness. We are directly impacting a market competitiveness by rolling out worldwide standardized programs, enforcing rigorous process simplification and global standards. At the same time, we are targeting to increase our asset loading by 10%, optimizing cap expending for new facilities while maintaining a best-in-class reliability of supply. Underpinning all of this is a high conviction, resilient, performance-driven culture. Day after day, we are laser focused on our core top 20 core managerial KPIs. This combined with a modernized knowledge management platform, as mentioned by Mathieu, to drive frontline efficiency and clear accountability. Together, these focuses give us execution clarity needed to drive operational excellence. Now, I'd like to illustrate through a video how some of our industrial initiatives are generating value. Take a look at how we are truly optimizing our end-to-end operation with various tangible examples. Specifically, do listen to the comments directly from our end-to-end centers.

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To turn this complex supply chain into a high-yielding edge, extracting maximum value, Air Liquide has deployed end-to-end digital and AI solutions from molecule production onto delivery. Air Liquide's eight end-to-end centers worldwide transform its supply chain into a highly predictive and agile one. They are connected to production sites to optimize plant operations with an optimization tool to instantly align customer demand, production capacity and distribution assets.

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We oversee our production 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Capitalizing on our supply chain flexibility and on AI, we are adjusting production in real time, minimizing energy usage while leveraging on energy market opportunities. The payoff?

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Sustained reliability for customers and maximized energy efficiency. Airlie Keep's supply chain relies on Transport Optimizer, a digital and AI-driven suit that powers its bulk logistics worldwide.

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By connecting production, consumption and distribution assets in real time, we optimize trips while managing resource availability. In this way, we are reducing the kilometer travel and the distribution cost.

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The game changer is that we're optimising the full supply chain efficiency, taking into account energy use and kilometres travelled at the same time.

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Air Liquide applies the same AI efficiency to its packaged gas business, turning a massive logistical puzzle, managing over 20 million returnable cylinders with various gases into a high-efficiency workflow.

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With our solution on the shop floor, an algorithm maps out the ideal placement of product baskets for the loading of delivery trucks. The system tells operators which cylinders move where in real time, minimizing manual handling and walking distances.

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Here again, AI also helps slash transport costs and kilometers driven. Air Liquide's supply chain is moving fast towards full end-to-end integration, leveraging the power of AI, extracting maximum value from it, combining profitability, customer satisfaction and growth ambition, plain and simple.

The video showed how we at Air Liquide execute today. I really like the intervention of Sarah and Elena. We have some great talents. Across our supply chain, we are moving fast from initially optimizing processes in isolation to a true, and this is important, end-to-end integrated model, radically changing how we operate. This approach delivers immediate tangible value and new pockets of optimization. Let's dive into how we are transforming primary production through cutting-edge automation. We are transitioning all our facilities into autonomous self-operating plants that run seamlessly without requiring continuous on-site presence, targeting over 95% of our sites worldwide by 2030. What does it mean? Well, our sites will be equipped to be unmanned by design. Across these facilities, we are embedding advanced AI predictive maintenance, anticipating equipment failures before they happen. We target cutting production incidents by more than three-folds by 2030. On top of that, guided by our proprietary AI, our units run continuously at peak performance, with an objective to react 50% faster by 2030 to capture new real-time opportunities in volatile energy markets. This unprecedented level of automation delivers a structural step change in safety, reliability and efficiency, strengthening a competitive advantage and strongly supporting, again this is important, a margin improvement ambition. Let's turn now to regional end-to-end optimization, and this is one of my favorites. orchestrated across eight end-to-end centers called and control towers this model breaks down silos to unlock large-scale synergies by dynamically linking the production capacity of fully autonomous self-operating plants like i just mentioned with customer demand across a pipeline bulk logistics and bulk customer storage in short because it was complicated powered by advanced ai we optimize production and distribution at the same time, adjusting output in real time to capture ultra competitive volatile energy pricing. This end-to-end optimization sharpens our market competitiveness, locks in permanent structural efficiencies and strengthen customer acquisition. The solution is currently being deployed across our eight end-to-end regional centers. now let's look at what improvements we are driving in a package gas filling station the end of our supply chain first we are deploying standardized production tools across all our main sites 600 of them targeting a plus 50 percent productivity increase by 2030 just last week i was in eastern europe with the local team and they were already showing a plus 44 percent increase in their productivity numbers and we are not even in 2027 yet second in logistics our digital solutions are optimizing route management driving a 20 increase in cylinders transported per kilometer a direct benefit to the margin third inside operation we are using advanced planning and layout optimization to streamline cylinder movements within our storage facilities while targeting a 20% reduction of references across this activity. As shown in this video, harnessing data and AI is transforming our logistics and operation into streamlined workflows, unlocking structural, structural is important, efficiency and creating shared value with our customers. Now, Mathieu, back to you.

As you understand now, artificial intelligence at Terliquid is driving real-time decision-making, unlocking unprecedented productivity, and compounding our competitive moat. AI is now fully embedded in our business. Every single member of our organization is equipped with Google Gemini, supported by an active community of 800 AI champions. We are using AI to transform our core business. Through five targeted transformation roadmaps, we are sharpening our focus on high transactional activities, costs, price management, and commercial efficiencies to drive real impact today. And make no mistake, we are only at the beginning of our journey. We sit on an extraordinary foundation of over 3.5 billion industrial data points and over 20 million of orders every year. While we standardize, map, and mine our processes, harnessing this massive proprietary global data stream will enable us to build responsible and high-impact innovations that secure a long-term competitive edge. Our core business transformation is actively powered, as I said, by five focused AI roadmaps, deploying agentic AI directly into our daily operational workflows. And we set ourselves very challenging objectives. In addition to the concrete illustration in industrial operations covered by David, we have many many great examples to share. In engineering and technology we target AI agents to cut our time to offer by 25% delivering fast high precision proposals while accurately predicting permitting and regulatory constraints ahead of time. In sales support our commercial AI agents power over 1 million annual customer visits. And one of my favorite use case is definitely AI helps optimizing dynamic pricing strategies, targeting the best prospects and streamlining data input straight into our CRM systems. In customer care, automated speech-to-text streams live data into our ERPs. AI agents seamlessly handle 230,000 monthly calls across Home Health Care France, the rest of Europe and AirGaz are next. When you globally handle a million calls per month, it is very powerful. Lastly, in patient care, AI optimizes complex back-office prescription workflows, creates hyper personalized care plans and predicts sleep apnea treatment drop-offs early. Full deployment is of course a priority. you understand that these five roadmaps are actively supporting our performance every single day and it will further accelerate in the months and years to come all the initiatives i've just covered are driven globally now let's turn to local efficiencies and what they mean in practice while global scale provides immense leverage 50 percent of our structural efficiencies are unlocked directly at the local level. By automating routine tasks through standardized global processes and operational discipline, we free up our teams to focus on what matters most in the field, deep market knowledge, safety and operational excellence, and of course, first-class customer service. This local responsiveness secures world-class safety and reliability or essential license to operate to conclude on how we perform at air liquid we are confident in our ability to deliver our target of 400 to 600 basis point in margin improvement by 2030 this ambition is backed by concrete operational actions and everything you've seen today is already in motion driven by robust transformation program scalable ai discipline local execution. I want to thank our teams around the world who are making this performance happen day in and day out. Thank you Matthew, David.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Having explored how we listen, we grow and we perform, we arrive at a financial foundation of our strategic plan. To get more details I'd like to welcome Jerome. Jerome, would you take us through the financial platform that serves as a springboard for BEYOND? Of course, Joe, and good day everyone.

Air Liquide's resilient business model has delivered a solid track record. Looking at our published results, Air Liquide has consistently expanded, delivering throughout its economical cycles. Having weathered the 2008 great financial crisis, the 2020 global pandemic, and repeated geopolitical energy shocks, we achieve a 30-year top-line CAGR of plus 6%. As a strong earning componder, we demonstrated robust operating leverage with EPS growth at plus 7% over the same period. Through our strong cash flow generation of plus 7% and the remarkable strength of our balance sheet, we maintain our commitment to shareholders return, growing our dividends at an impressive plus nine percent annual rate. At Air Liquide, consistently creating shareholder value is in our DNA. Indeed, over a multi-year horizon, Air Liquide share price has substantially outperformed the CAC 40 index, reflecting the resilient compounding nature of our business model. Our commitment to dividend is on a clear display, with growth even accelerating to plus 38 percent cumulative over the last three years looking at total shareholder return we have posted strong double digit tsr across 5 10 and 20 year horizon outpacing the broader market and with the beyond strategic plan we are positioned to accelerated this momentum even further historically we delivered steady gains in our operating margin. But over the past few years, however, we have significantly accelerated that trajectory as clearly demonstrated by the graph on the left. The significant step change is margin improvement, as generated over 600 basis points of OER margin gains over the past decade. This of course is excluding the energy impact. The three main drivers of margin improvement over advanced were first pricing specifically industrial merchant pricing which grew by over 30 percent over the advanced period second delivering efficiency to the sum of 2 billion euros showing the success of the initial phases of our group transformation program and third active portfolio management with 67 additional accretive acquisition and 29 divestiture Together, those levers delivered a significantly more efficient and effective organization, reinforcing the strong foundation of our business model. Regarding foundation, first, Air Liquide boasts a diversified global footprint, operating across 60 countries with 4 million customers and patients. Second, we execute with discipline, maintaining a double-digit minimum IR threshold with strong contractual terms and conditions. Third, our resilient business model is valued, and now more than ever, by all stakeholders. Indeed, our diversified footprint services, 90% of industrial segments globally, and more than 30% of ourselves are under 15-year contracts. Fourth, we remain agile, both locally and globally, thanks to our footprint and strengthened by our group transformation program and now by leveraging artificial intelligence. Fifth, we invest approximately 300 million euros annually in innovation, maintaining our position as a cutting-edge leader with several first-of-its-kind technological solutions. Since 2017, Air Liquide's cash flow expanded at nearly 11% per year, strengthening its balance sheet and providing capital allocation flexibility for strategy growth and acquisition, like AirGas in the US, and more recently, the IG AirGas in South Korea. Despite those transformative acquisitions, we successfully delivered our net debt to EBITDA ratio from 3.3 times after the air-gas acquisition down to a healthy 1.5 times. This is a strong foundation from where now we launch.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Jerome. From there, could you walk us through the actual objectives of BEYOND?

And, of course, launching a strong foundation, as I said, BEON aims to maximize value creation. As highlighted by Francois, our three strategic objectives are first EPS at 10% on the compound annual growth rate, Two, value creation, with ROCE target above 11% in 2030, and third, CO2 emissions reduction, minus 33% by 2035. To dive deeper, first, sales growth at 1.5 to twice industrial production. This backend loaded growth has been covered throughout today's presentation. Second, margin improvement. We will deliver between plus 400 to plus 600 BIPs over behind, building on the acceleration of advance and which would represent a milestone of plus 1,000 BIPs over 10 years from 2020 to 2030 time frame. Third, capital allocation. We will continue with our Discipline Project Development, Accretive M&A and Dividend Payments, now combined with our new Flexible Share Repurchase Program. Under Beyond, Top Line Expansion, Margin Improvement and Capital Allocation are Complementary Levels and Not Objective. By fixing between the three as market conditions dictate, we protect profitability and we are very confident to deliver to our plus 10% EPS growth objective.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

That's very exciting, Jerome. Thank you. How would that break down on a per business line basis?

Well, let's start with industrial merchant. This is projected to deliver plus 4% to plus 6% sales growth, propelled by organic volume expansion from a specific focus on asset loading, sustained pricing management, and accretive Bolton M&A. Then large industry, this will generate plus one to plus three percent growth. Forty percent of startup growth is already secured through our project through new project starts. However, this will be partly offset by base erosion in some geographies. Moreover, as I will show on the following slide, we are undergoing a structural shift in our business model where absolute OIR expansion provides a far more accurate reflection of our true operation growth than the top-line revenue alone. Electronics is set to deliver above plus 10% growth, over 50% of which is already secured mostly by new projects coming online. We will capitalize on our number one position, robust project backlog, and unique position in advanced material. Finally, healthcare. This continues to serve as an exceptionary region and steady growth engine, targeting plus 4% to 6% growth through organic expansion and select Bolton acquisition.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Jerome, as you know, margin is a key focus of the markets today. Could you help investors understand why this alone does not fully capture the performance and may not actually be the best indicator?

Sure, this is important, Joe, but let me start first with our top priority, which is reinvesting in the business with strict capital discipline. Over the past decade, we have delivered the step change acceleration in industrial investment decisions, scaling up to the range of 4 billion euros annually. Now looking ahead until 2030, we project a cumulative 24 billion in industrial investment decisions, heavily anchored by growth in the Americas and Asia. Alongside this growth capex, we will continuously reinforce our foundation by investing in asset renewals efficiency programs and world-class safety protocols crucially every project must clear our strict minimal double digit IRR order rate to support of overarching above 11 percent roc objective furthermore embedded in our investment decision process our co2 emission reduction objective and finally we aim to maintain a diversity of project so as to not overexpose ourselves to geopolitical or single project concentration risk so now joe let me spend some time on explaining our financial model to address your question which is again very important as you will see absolute oir growth will serve as a more accurate aggregate measure of a project financial contribution rather than top line growth let's start by tracking a project life cycle on the left in our portfolio of opportunities we where we apply a stringent project selection process based on returns to ensure every investment clears out strict middle double digit IR order rate we deliberately select premier locations leading counterparties and high quality assets underpinned by long-term tech or pay contracts with anchor customers to their risk of investment. Once the project clears our screening project, we reach a formal final investment decision. The project then enters our committed backlog, initiating the construction phase, which is illustrated on the slide. CapEx timeline typically average two to three years for medium to large project, and three to five years for very large industrial facilities. In the example here, we present a theoretical 200 million euro CAPEX project. Following an evenly split span over four-year construction phase, OER steadily ramps up over two to three years before reaching the steady run rate through to the end of this theoretical 15-year project. So why the shift to OER from sales for new project? There are a few drivers and now we start to look at capital intensity. Starting on the left, capital intensity indeed varies significantly across our product. It can range from roughly 3 times for air gases to 1.5 times for hydrogen production. So considering two projects, one ISU, one SMR, with identical CAPEX and IR order rates, the hydrogen project will generate IR cells and thus will have a lower OIR to cells ratio. Similarly subsidies meaningfully impact margin ratio. Indeed, our backlog consists of the total gross CAPEX of the project. However, our project economics are calculated on net capex. So the takeaways here is that overall capital intensity varies significantly based on factors like project type and subsidies. This leads to difficulty in sales modeling. So therefore, the higher variability of OER on sales, and therefore you know OER will be more predictable to model. Additionally, the energy impact is different by geography and contract structure. While it's fairly standard that energy costs are passed through to customers, energy costs vary greatly across regions. Consider, for example, two identical hydrogens SMR project, same size, CAPEX and secured IR in the US and Europe. When natural gas in the US was about 9 euros per megawatt hour, Europe was averaging a staggering 80 euros per megawatt hour. 9 euros versus 80 euros. Thus, the total sale, including energy, is much higher in Europe than in the US. Thus, the calculated OER to sales ratio in this theoretical example is 15% in Europe versus 35% in the US, same capex, same IR. So, as you see, the impact on energy cost and ratio is also seen in contract structure of energy transition and electronics project. Those customers often secure their own energy, which is eliminating the need for industrial gas company to secure and pass through energy price. Again, an example identical to project. The project with energy pass through reports much higher sales than the identical project without energy pass through. All else equal, the OIR in absolute value would be the same, but the margin ratio OIR to sell is very much higher without energy possible. So, the main point again is that sales may not reflect a company's growth, and OIR to sales ratio may not fully reflect business performance. It's very important that. the dynamics of OIR in Absolute Valley is much more informative and is and will be reflective in our new EPS objective. As our business model has evolved, market marks only by increased variance in capital intensity, heightened energy price volatility, regional energy price disparities and a higher proportion of contracts without energy pass-through in our backlog, top-line sales and sales derived KPIs are not the most representative indicators to our performance. Today, absolute OER growth stands out primary metric to track growth, strategy progress, and individual project contribution. And while margin percentage remains an essential short-term guiding tool, our primary compass for the long term remains return on capital employed, the key message is that ROCE is our long-term compass.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

That makes sense. It's very clear. Thank you. We announced a big change in our capital allocation policy with share buybacks. What are the key takeaways for investors?

Well, thank you, Joe, for this question. To start with, it is early-kid improved performance, which now is allowing for a new optimized capital allocation framework. First, our overarching priority remains to invest in the business. Second, we will accelerate selective value accretive acquisition, bolted but also larger accret strategic acquisition. Third, we remain committed to growing our dividend, targeting a steady payout ratio of approximately 60%. And now, fourth, powered by the strengths of our balance sheet and an improved performance, we are enhancing shareholders' return even further by introducing share buybacks as a pillar of our capital allocation framework. We have established a robust but flexible to other opportunities share buyback program authorizing an initial 4 billion in cumulative repurchases through 2028. So moving forward, share buyback becomes a component of our capital allocation policy and shareholders' returns framework. Furthermore, maintaining a solid A credit rating remains an anchor of our capital allocation discipline. So through the execution of our BN strategic plan, we are unlocking the potential to up to double our average annual shareholders return compared to the advanced period. This will be driven by a robust dividend policy with a payout of around 60% and again our new flexible share repurchase program. Finally, none of this would be possible without the dedication of the teams. Everyone at Erliquid is fully committed to delivering our billion objectives and we have explicitly aligned our incentive structure to guarantee accountability. For our top 350 senior leaders, including the executive committee, our annual bonus plan is directly tied up to core operational execution. Beyond annual incentives, our long-term plan extends to over 2,700 managers group-wide, aligning leadership directly with three-year performance goal. This structure clearly ties the success of our shareholders with the success of our leadership. Additionally and specifically to the IAM Salesforce, we continue to standardize global incentive system to aggressive best-in-class practices. Those incentives are accelerating the shift to an enhanced performance-driven culture at Air Liquide. So we have the technology, the balance sheet firepower, and the discipline, culture, to deliver.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Thank you very much, Jerome. And now I'll turn it back to Francois for his closing remarks.

Thank you, Joe. I trust that by now you see how much of a step change what we have shared with you today represents. Beyond the figures and targets, our commitment to delivery is extremely strong. We have a clear trajectory. the right levers in place and most important the right mindset. That's why I have we have confidence in our ability to create lasting value for all our stakeholders. I would like to conclude to summarize for our existing and future shareholders why more than ever Air Liquide offers a premium investment case. You have seen that we are very well positioned in many growth markets you know we have strong business model that we continue to refine you have seen our track record in improving our profitability you appreciate our expanded commitment to deliver lasting value to you and finally you should be as proud as we are to invest in a responsible company Thank you for your attention. I know it has been a lot of information today. Let's take a short break. I am really looking forward with the rest of the team to answer your questions during the Q&A session.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Let's take a five-minute break. We'll meet up in the Q&A setup where the executive team will take the stage for the Q&A.

Welcome back. We will now start our Q&A session by taking first a few written questions from the platform. So I will ask Joe, if you can, read the first question, please.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

I sure can. Before I start, quick reminder, to submit a written question, just hit the button at the top right of your screen. First question. Regarding the M&A strategy, it's clear that bolt-ons will be a focus in the coming years. Given the $22 to $25 billion guide in investments in the business, and some balance sheet flexibility, can we expect a larger acquisition?

All right. Thank you very much. I will take this question. Yes, as we mentioned already, M&A is part of the strategy. It was in the previous plan, but we want to accelerate that. Bolton acquisition, industrial merchant and home health care mostly, but also potentially strategic larger acquisition, like the one we have done in Korea with DIG. of course to dance we have to be two so it's not possible today to be more specific on that what we see is there are some region of the world where there are potentially opportunities in the framework of the beyond plan the good news is that we have the financial capabilities to seize those opportunities so we'll do that whenever there are opportunities that make sense for us the second written question how should we normalize health care margins versus peers

given air liqueeds greater home health care and service content what would a truly like for like comparison look like thank you very much joe i will ask diana please thank you i was really hoping you would ask that question so um to be clear our home health care activities are well aligned with the profitability of the group and they are very much in line as well with the progression that we ambition for our group now where we operate and you remember we are not for home health care in the United States we are even better prepared and better positioned than our competitors and our peers so and why is that it's because of the value we generate for our customers patients.

Thank you very much Diana. I guess now we are ready to take some phone questions from people attending. So please go ahead.

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.

Operator

To answer your question please press star one and one again we will now take the first question from the phone coming from the line of martin rediger from kepler chevre please go ahead hello um thank you for taking my two questions the first is for diana um your healthcare business has been growing organically by 6.6 percent in the last five years what was the split into volumes and pricing what is the risk that pricing could become negative and just a clarification are you interested in a sizable acquisition target in the u.s home care market which is currently up for sale my second question is for to Jerome on the one to three percent per annum growth in large industries until the year 2030. You mentioned erosion in some regions which offsets partly startup contributions. Can you talk about this erosion? Thank you.

Thank you very much, Martin. As a matter of fact, indeed Diana is going to answer the first one, but for the second one I think I will ask maybe the different head of the region to give you a feel for the LI growth because it's quite different from one region to another one. So Diana, healthcare.

Yes, thank you very much. Excellent question. So how do we compare the healthcare growth between the previous five years and the beyond plan? To be very clear, in the past, we had a very strong price dynamic. And especially because you ask about home health care again. In home health care, we have had a positive price pass through in the past years. Looking forward, what we see is that we have a very strong volume ambition embedded in our plan. because we expect with the tensions on some healthcare systems that pricing will probably be less dynamic as in the past years. Nevertheless, in addition to our organic volume growth, we have as well a very strong bolt-on M&A ambition embedded in the BEYOND plan. And of course, we continue to look for opportunities to grow, may it be externally, organically, and as well for sizable acquisitions. Now, as I mentioned in my previous response, the U.S. home health care market for us is not one that we target. Thank you.

Thank you very much. So large industry, maybe I think what would be the most useful and relevant is to start with the U.S. Adam, maybe a few words about Europe and then finish with APAC on large industry because indeed it's quite different. Adam.

Yes, absolutely. So in talking about the U.S., I think there's three key points from a large industry standpoint worth mentioning. The first one is around infrastructure. The second is around activity and volumes that we see. And the third is around development. From an infrastructure standpoint, our infrastructure is best in class. So when I look at it, it's an infrastructure that's expanding. It's the largest amongst our peers in terms of our air gas infrastructure that we have, particularly on the Gulf Coast. and it's one that we're continually renewing and expanding. When we look at volumes, we see volumes for the chemical sector and volumes for refining, and those volumes have reached historic highs for us, particularly along our pipeline systems, but also in some standalone on-site assets that we have. And then the third sector that I would talk about, or third piece, is really around development. We've had for the past couple of years very active development in large industries in the U.S., and we see that continuing. So we did sign two projects that we announced at the beginning of the year, one in the chemical space with Oxea, the other in the steel space with Hyundai Steel, both of these contributing to low carbon products, which is great for the future, but we also see ongoing developments These will contribute towards the end of the period in terms of growth for development.

So clearly large industry is going to contribute to the five to six at least percent growth for the year, for the period.

Absolutely. And it'll also contribute co-products, which will help the merchant sector as well, which is another very strong space for us.

Yeah.

Thank you very much.

Emily, Europe. Sure. So large industry in Europe. So the industry in Europe is transforming, for sure. So some of the industry is moving to decarbonization, like the cement players, some steel makers, as well as refining. And you've seen some examples in the presentation just earlier with some startups in electrolyzers coming soon. Other part of the industry, like the chemical industry, is restructuring, suffering more and restructuring. We accompany our customers all the way. This is part of our listen and care, obviously. And for us, it means also we restructure in some places to adapt our cost structure to the level of activity. And we optimize our network. in some cases we even shut down some old inefficient assets where there is over capacity so overall i would say in europe the forecast is like li to remain a flat about flat with some new opportunities offsetting the headwinds and the the base erosion i would say okay thank you very much a pack honey we for sure also have a super diverse customer base and a little bit of both stories that you just heard there in China for example with the five-year plan that they have in China to go upstream on

pet cam we see more growth and more opportunities but then we have some other basins where there's also some restructuring maybe even some erosion Overall, though, for Asia-Pacific, large industries is an important contributor of that 8% to 9% growth rate.

Thank you very much, Roni. So overall, we see that in large industries there is this momentum by region, by sector. And all in all, I think what we need to take out is that wherever there are opportunities to modernize the asset base or to capture new opportunities to support the transformation of industry. That's what we will continue to do in Beyond.

Operator

Thank you.

Thank you very much, Martin. Next question, please.

Operator

We will now take the next question from the line of John Campbell from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

John Campbell Analyst — Bank of America

Hi, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for the presentation that really goes into detail on your business. Yes. I wanted you to maybe kind of expand upon the margin improvements, so your kind of outline goals for 400 to 600 basis points of improvement over time. Could you perhaps outline and articulate the assumptions that are trying to kind of drive those two scenarios and, you know, what is basically required, I guess, to reach the midpoint? And would you consider the midpoint the most likely of that kind of range? Thank you very much.

Thank you very much, John. Good talking to you. Maybe, Mathieu, do you want to take this one, please?

Sure. Thank you, John, for the question. So if we go back to the margin ambition, so we set for ourselves a very ambitious 4 to 600 basis point margin improvement, as you mentioned, that is going to drive our EPS up. As we mentioned during the presentation, we are accelerating. if you compare to advanced we were at 360 basis point over four years so no clearly over the next five years we want to we want to speed up what's important is that we are in motion we are we have a structurally back plan with a lot of example across all the pillar that we mentioned I'm gonna remind them again on global structural efficiencies local efficiencies organizational streamlining and last but not least active commercial and operational management so these four pillars are interconnected today I think it's fair to take the midpoint as an assumption that being said if we can accelerate if the market or the macro condition allows we will certainly do it if AI allows us to go even further we will do it and again we don't want to give too much variation per year take that as an average with the midpoint as the the basis of the scenario.

Thank you very much, Mathieu. Next question, please.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take the next question from Alexander Sloan from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Alexander Sloan Analyst — Barclays

Thank you very much for the detailed presentation. Two from me also, please. The first one just on the balance sheet. If you could help us maybe understand balance sheet assumptions through the period in a little bit more detail. I mean, specifically the 4 billion buyback, how much of that do you expect to be funded from free cash flow versus maybe stepping up debt? And more specifically, you know, where would you expect net debt to EBITDA to peak over the course of the strategy period? And the second one, just on electronics, I mean, interesting, you know, for the other three businesses, you've given kind of a range. whereas electronics is framed as above 10, but without a defined upper limit. So could you help us sort of understand what the upside case looks like here for electronics? I mean, what would need to happen for electronics growth to maybe materially exceed that 10% through 2030?

Good afternoon, Alex. I think the first question is a wonderful question for Jérôme and probably the next one for Armel.

Thank you very much, Alex. So basically, you're right. It's a very big event on the fact that we have raised about 4 billion share buyback until 2028. The question is how we'll fund it. So we'll fund it from cash flow, but also mainly from leverage, debt, and also in order to, you know, we have the balance sheet. We're at 1.5 times EBITDA to net debt as end of June. So we'll leverage from this. And that will be, I would say, the main catalyst. I will not give any precise number in terms of how do we want to raise, but our objective is what we say, we want to keep the A category range, you know, both on Standard & Poor's and Moody's. So that's basically our main assumption so far. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Jérôme. Armel, upside on the electronics, what it would take?

Yes, thank you very much for the question. So, first of all, I would like to remind you that we are committed to outperform the market. I mentioned 8% market growth in volumes, which is a real indicator for our sales. And we are committed to deliver more than 10% growth. Half of this growth is already solid and in our books. Now, you remember we have two main levels, carrier gases and advanced materials. If we look at carrier gases, they represent around 50% of our investment opportunities for the next 12 months. And we have a far larger portfolio in front of us. But you know well the business model. when we sign a contract we need three years two to three years depending on the geography for the ramp up and the sales to be effective in our numbers so clearly what we are going to sign in 27 28 is going to contribute above the beyond period so I would say the real level on above this 10% is advanced materials it depends on faster adoption on our key molecules here we have a fantastic market advantage being the first one in that market and if I take an example you've seen on the video and I've talked about it molybdenum for

example where we have already a solid manufacturing base in Japan in Korea and in the US to see the growth where it is and it comes hand to hands with our own patenting equipment which is absolutely key to deliver the product that's the fabs thank you thank you very much armel i mean those are uh this one is a very good example i believe where the innovation is really helping us to develop the top top line and to take a competitive advantage so i hope it's going to be soon a blockbuster for sure um i think we maybe we have a written question joe i could squeeze in so go ahead sure on green renewable

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Could you provide an update of your projects and give us an overview of your future pipeline? More broadly, what is your view on green hydrogen strategy? What minimum level of regulatory support, carbon price, or customer premium is currently needed to make renewable hydrogen projects economically viable in Europe?

So since we are talking about Europe, Emily, your turn.

Thank you. I'm happy to hear this question. And so on the green hydrogen, I'll try to be short, but overall on green and low carbon hydrogen, we still see a good momentum in Europe. We have five major energy transition projects under construction that will deliver and contribute within beyond in low carbon and in renewable hydrogen electrolyzers. So you mentioned some of them. Normandy electrolyzer will start up soon and it's fully loaded. Alligator in the Netherlands will come after. It's fully loaded as well. And we also have low carbon hydrogen for biorefineries in Lamed or Grand Puy. So a very strong momentum. Overall, those projects are supported by existing regulations. So those projects are already viable. And keep in mind that the RFNBO hasn't been transposed in all European countries yet. So there are more opportunities to come.

Thank you very much, Emily. So I think we have a list of written questions. Maybe we take another one?

Joe Head of Investor Relations

Given the number of bolt-on acquisitions that the company has made and continues to make, how is the company managing integration risk associated with this? For example, the management of different corporate cultures and styles, different processes and teams, customer disruption during integration processes.

That's a great question. So maybe just to be concrete, two examples from two parts of the world. Maybe Marcelo, you talk about Airgas because you've got quite a powerful integration and acquisition machine, and maybe, Roni, if you want to say one word about maybe Korea, I think would be useful. Marcelo.

Thank you, Francois, and thank you for the excellent question. In the case of Airgas, if you remember, I guess was created in 1982 and he started as an independent company and grew through acquisitions until the merge with the group ten years ago I would say it's embedded in our DNA to accept differences and at the same time to drive the company with the right culture of respect of performance of safety which is always one of the key topics that we need to address every time we acquire a company. 95% of the companies we acquired so far are basically asset deals where we bring customers, we bring assets and eventually a few of the associates that are working for those independent companies and I tell you the track record of performance of Airgas has proven that the model works and we continue to be very successful. By the way we want to accelerate those Boltons in the coming years of beyond, not only at Argas, but also in other geographies in the world.

Thank you very much. I trust that you have a complete and well-structured playbook for the integration, being the safety, the operation, the IT.

The RP convergence, and so on and so forth. Yeah, very strong playbook.

We think that very quickly, and that's why we insist on density, very quickly, those Bolton acquisitions in the U.S., but also in other geographies, are quite accretive to business absolutely yeah another example of a larger side in a different environment honey so i love this question just a few weeks ago i i was in korea for our customer day where the two businesses that we've merged together met our new customers wonderful but the answer to the question is basically proactively so of course we have to look across process legal entities tools our business engagement everything but really the most important thing is the culture and it's in the question so I really appreciate that it shows that we understand what this is about when it comes to the DIG integration the two cultures of the early key business and the DIG business were a long way apart but what's happening now in Korea is the teams are creating their own culture for the future and that's the key to these kind of integrations as well as all the process and you have to be great at the process but really the culture thank you thank you very much maybe we move to uh the uh the live questions from from the phone the next one please thank you the next question is from the line of lauren favre from

Laurent Favre Analyst — BM

bmp please go ahead thank you two questions please the first one is on the target to increase loading by 10 i guess across the network and i was just wondering what exactly are you going to do differently 10 sounds like a pretty big number for a company that has been well managed for a long time um that's the first question and the second one for jerome is around the backlog and i guess your presentation on how we cannot rely on sales or margins and I fully understand that the most important point is OIR in absolute terms. So I was wondering what can you tell us that could help us on I guess modeling of the six billion backlog in terms of how it flows if we cannot use a rule of thumb on sales and if we shouldn't be assuming a certain event margin. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Laurent and good afternoon. I will ask David to answer the first question, which will give some time for Jérôme to try to think about the answer for the second question, which is not an easy one, as we discussed previously. So, where is David?

David, please. Thank you. And thank you very much for the question. Of course, responsible for industrial operation, asset loading is definitely an indicator which is close to my heart, but it's definitely also a leading indicator to return on capital employed. To your question on what is the current loading, of course, it's very difficult to answer at global level. We have very different supply chain, very different product. However, it is correct that in some assets, in some regions, we are below 70%. And those are specific areas where we want to boost the asset loading to above 80%. The way we will do it is really three ways. The first one is to ensure that the assets are actually delivering what they should be. So this is looking at availability, making sure that they are optimized and that they deliver the product and output that we expect and that we need to sell. the second one is a bit more thorough is where we have cross-functional team really looking at the base in situation and define the commercial policy but that means also realigning the incentives it means also we're looking at the commercial strategy and how do we densify and leverage the asset in its location and I would say the third one is also at looking at some of the assets probably would need to be retired as well so it's also looking at the viability of some of these assets thank you thank you very much david i think now jérôme is uh

is up for the answer thank you laurent for this interesting question so so you're right the modelization of growth coming from the backlog is giving is getting more and more difficult because you have different capital intensity you have the weight of the energy which is can be very much different from five for pison from for example the us and in europe and which can be and multiply even by 10. So going freely from backlog to sales is something that we stop and that's why, you know, we stop to, I would say, to publicize in the last quarter. Now, having said that, how to do it, I would say the best way. Our performance, you know, is very much now to be modelized by absolute OIR, you know, because that's naturally flowing into the EPS growth and that's why today we are moving into the EPS growth of, you know, plus 10%, minus 2, plus 2. That's basically what we have to do. And that's why you know, sales lever cannot be an objective per se. That's why we have to concentrate more and more on the EBIT, and that's what we will going to do in the coming years. And that's very much what also one of the key messages that I wanted to pass during this presentation is that the absolute value in sales really today is not totally meaningful. That's the way we could think about.

Thank you very much, Jérôme. I do believe we have another question online. So the next question, please.

Operator

We will now take our next question from the line of George Spector from UBS. Please go ahead.

George Spector Analyst — UBS

Yeah, hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I had a follow-up that kind of combines a few of these together. It seems like when you guys are talking about margin, the commentary around density also seems to include some commentary around M&A. So I'm curious if M&A was maybe less of a contributor than what you expected. Is that a risk to your margin targets or are those margin targets more organic skewed? Thanks.

Well, I think let's talk about maybe M&A and how do we want to use M&A in terms of density for IM.

Marcelo do you want to speak about that because that's that's a clear focus yeah thank you François and in a few words and again the both owns they have been key to the strategy of men of our geographies in terms of growth but before we speak about the impact to the profitability I think what matters is really the strategic impact of each of the targets that we're bringing into the company so I give examples of several opportunities I have seen in the US where companies they are heavily dependent on hard goods with very limited penetration important customers and we decided not to pursue those acquisitions so yeah it's a key lever I think we did relatively well as a group in many of those acquisitions in terms of number the market is changing and is shifting as you know very well in some areas I use we see a EBITDA multiples going super high so we need to continue to be super careful and strategic on those acquisitions but again the densification topic M&A comes into play but it's not the main I'd say a lever that we pull in terms of densification densification means how we measure the market our participation concentration of customers and how we play commercially and from strategic point of view to bring the best in terms of value not only to to the company but also to our customers in general that's all and i think what is very important to keep in mind is that

given our footprint i mean we've got almost always the choice to grow organically or to do mna mna is a way to accelerate so that has to be of course i mean the right seller but also the right price to do that so in in the us in china we have also a clear strategy like that so i don't believe this is a risk to our margin target because we've got other levers clearly and if we can see the opportunity when it makes sense in terms of M&A we'll do that. Maybe I will just use that question to ask Diana to talk about M&A and BOLTOG M&A in home health care because that's an important part of the strategy also.

Yes absolutely and it's clearly as well an accelerator compared to our previous plan well bolt-on acquisitions accounted for about 90 million euros of sales whereas what we have embedded in the beyond copy is 280 million euros of bolt-on M&A's so it's clearly an accelerator and to be very clear as well because you early asked the question of profitability we are targeting relative acquisitions so the bolt-on M&A within the first two years should be at least at the level of our current profitability and even contributing for us to accelerate our profitability improvement thank you very much i think we have another question uh waiting uh

please the uh the the next question uh and after that we'll take another question from investor which is a written question next question online please thank you next question comes from the line of Chittan Uddeshi from JP Morgan.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 27

Thanks for taking my questions and thank you for these detailed presentations this afternoon. I had a few questions. I'll start with the most important one. I'm a bit curious, why have you shifted from focus on organic sales target to Toto? Because I remember last time when we had, and even in the previous plan, and there was always an organic focus, and it seems this time it's missing. So perhaps you can detail why that is the case. Second, I think, Jerome, you mentioned in your presentation that the sales growth will be half-loaded or back-end loaded. I mean, if I just do some simple math, you know, you're guiding to 5%. I would probably estimate about 30 bps from DIG air gas in terms of average contribution over that period. So we are left with 4.7, which is not very different from what consensus has for the next two years. So I was saying that's probably a bit too high, and you are expecting that to come in more later half of this decade. And the third question I had was just going back to one of your slides where you had the hurdle rate for your large projects. I think it was in energy transition, and I saw a number of more than 10%. I'm just curious because I somehow remember that it used to be a hurdle rate of more than 12% in the past for on-site projects. Has that been reduced or was my sort of thinking wrong that it was always more than 10, not more than 12? Thank you very much.

Thank you, Shetan. So I will answer some of these questions and I will ask Jérôme to talk about the sales growth profile, for sure. Just a comment on the organic sales versus the total sales. Why are we doing that? We are doing that for a very simple reason, is that as part of the strategy, you see that there are opportunities to make some acquisitions, a bolt-on and more significant ones. You understand with what we just mentioned that this is really part of the strategy to improve the density, I mean, to reach a new market also. So at the end of the day, it just reflects the capital allocation, either to invest in our own facility or to make acquisition. And that contributes to the EPS. So, giving the view of the total growth of the company, I think from an investor point of view, that's what you want to see, how we manage to grow the business. And again, we are very fortunate to be in a segment of the economy where there are opportunities for acquisition. So let's make sure that we register that. Regarding the profile on the growth, Jérôme, do you want to answer that? And I will finish with the other rate.

Thank you, François. Thank you, Chétan. So you're right. In fact, when you look at the profile of the sales during the period, the sales growth already been backloaded at the end of the period for the many reasons that you know that we have, I would say, the impact of the startup and the ramp-up of the large energy transition project and electronic projects. So that explains a bit of that, even though we are not talking about huge difference. But it's true that the sales profile is quite a little bit back-loaded at the end of the period.

Regarding the hurdle rate, what you have to keep in mind is that we keep the same objective of having 12% return for the portfolio. What was mentioned was some specific first of their kind, I would say, project in the energy transition, for example, where we accept to have a lower return because sometimes, I mean, we have to enter the market to demonstrate the technology. But all in all, and I think that's what is very important, we keep an extremely clear discipline on the capital allocation. you know very well this is the key KPI to measure the value that we are creating with the return on capital employed and that's why we want to have a portfolio which is in the range of the 12%. So no worries about some projects where we have made a strategic move. I think that has helped us to take clear leadership especially in the energy transition where for example in Europe by far we are the industry leader to offer low-carbon solution to our customers. As mentioned by Emily, we see a great potential. Our customers are telling us, and you have heard that on some of the videos, that we are really a leading partner for the energy transition and I think that is really valuable now and for the future.

I do believe that we have a question, a written question from an investor, so Joe maybe if you want to read we have a couple of those go ahead sure uh rather straightforward one to start are you planning to make more divestitures jerome yes the answer is uh we are you know you remember the question the fact that during the advance uh period we made some significant portfolio management about you know 69 acquisition and the rest in divestiture so about one other i would say pure you know M&A items so is the question the question is we will continue to do that of course you know portfolio management will always be on our agenda it depends as Francois said you know there will be some potentially some acquisition and divestiture but clearly we we continue to do so and you know you like the name and we like the name there is no taboo in this in this world and we continue to look at the profitability versus accretive opportunities and this will be of course on full of our agenda although today there is no specific announcement to make thank you no i think that's very clear that's part of the active portfolio management we have done that uh with no taboo and we'll continue to do that next question joe please

sure industrial merchant is probably the cleanest productivity comparison where do you see the biggest remaining gap versus best in class peers pricing logistics density revenue for employee procurement or overhead and let me think about how to answer this question maybe we take a specific example I I saw that Marcello is already up I think he wants to answer go ahead let's since we're talking but I would say a clear footprint let's talk about the US with their gas thank you and thank you for the very good question it gives me the opportunity to speak a

little bit about industrial merchant but specifically Francois to your question on air gas in the US and in Canada I would say given our size today the level of coverage we have in the market both in a physical presence and our online capabilities if you look to the level of density we have managed to built in the US in the last decades you saw in the presentation demonstration of the level of expertise we have developed and the resources we have how Airgas and the group this very powerful combination in terms of innovation digital AI capabilities just to speak about a few dynamic pricing as an example if you take any of those KPIs are we the best in all of them I'm not sure but we are in my view at Airgas a kind of a reference to the market back to the question in terms of M&A, and when we look to our peers, I think our guess is ahead of the game. Are there opportunities in terms of improvement? Of course, I think David, you mentioned about densification and asset loading. We discussed about densification and M&A. The dynamic pricing AI driven, I would say, applications is a reality and we have to continue to leverage on that. We do have both in Europe and also in China, not to say in Brazil, also a strong presence where good practices are happening and that's what the world business line with my other head in terms of responsibility is doing and when we discussed it in the past with the community about the commercial and industrial initiatives that is there to continue to drive not only growth but growth with the right level of profitability in general thank you marcelo what i what i take out from this question which i do believe is a very interesting question it's not an easy one it's wherever we have a presence and we have managed to build the density infrastructure we are top of the industry and very often market leader

not only in terms of performance but I would say also and maybe you didn't mention that in terms of customer satisfaction and loyalty UNPS in in the US is twice basically the industry the second one in the industry so on top of very good performance when you manage to have a loyalty of customer which i think is very important but i think there are some regions and again industrial merchants comes in a lot of different i would say size and profile where we don't have the critical mass and maybe thinking about that a good example would be to talk about how we address that and ronnie do you want to uh to mention that yes so when it comes to uh density it's exactly the mindset that we brought

to our acquisition program that we're running in the last few years in in china but the real answer is it's industrial merchant you have to work on all of it so what marshall said earlier about the discipline around density that comes first right but you have to work on pricing you have work on your supply chain procurement overhead revenue for employee all of our acquisitions that we are doing in china come with incredible integration effort to make sure that we can pull all of those leaders so all of them and density all right thank you very much let's go back to a live question i think we have another question

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jean-Luc Romain from CAC-CIB. Please go ahead.

Jean-Luc Romain Analyst — CAC-CIB

Thank you for taking my question. It relates to your improved competitiveness. Could you elaborate on the way you plan to reduce your capex by 15% on new plants? And does it mean that like 1 billion of CAPEX under the advanced plans would translate into 850 million more or less under the new plan for the same equipment or for the same air separation unit?

Jean-Luc, good afternoon. I love your question and I'm going to direct you to Armel who is in charge of technology and got the engineering. So Armel, please.

Yes, thank you. So it gives me the opportunity to talk about my favorite topic, competitiveness of our plants. So I remind you that we have a full integrated engineering, EPC engineering. We design, we manufacture, and we build our plants. And we have a full program that we call Compete, which enables us to work on a continuous basis on our competitiveness. How do we do that? So we screen the market, a lot of market intelligence to understand where is the level of competitiveness and here it's absolutely key to operate in the Chinese market where we compete with local players and where you can win in the Chinese market, you are quite sure that you can win anywhere. so that's where we look for our benchmarks and after we work on all the different levels to decrease the TCO so it's a full program and we follow every deal to ensure it is managed on the continuous basis.

One just a great example I mean beside China where China I think is really the place where it's a playground for competitiveness is India. Last year you managed to win a very competitive bid for the largest plant in the world i mean you want to say a few words about that because that was super competitive and it demonstrates that on the pure equipment and capex of course capex and opex part we are extremely competitive yes thank you for mentioning that francois so last year it was a sales of equipment for a very large metal player in india and in fact we won it was a very competitive build and this is the largest ever oxygen plant in the world So, technology leadership and competitiveness. So, great illustration. Good job of the engineering team. Next question, please.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of John Roberts from Mitsuho. Please go ahead.

John Roberts Analyst — Mizuho

Thank you very much for a good update here and for taking my two questions. Energy transition was 700 million euro increment in sales to 2030. Is space expected to be of a similar magnitude, much smaller, or maybe you could just bracket that for us? And then my second question is a little more technical. You highlighted ammonia cracking in your press release. It's only been done at small scale previously. So does your new technology represent a step change in scale and what's the timing there?

Thank you very much. So the short answer for space is that it's much smaller today than the energy transition, but maybe since the action is taking place in North America. Marcelo, again, comment on space?

Yes, of course, and thank you. I was expecting this question to come. I think, first of all, just to align on the understanding and the way we see the market, and I think we all agree on that. in terms of expansion and dynamics this market is going through a real revolution and I still believe we are just scratching the surface of what may come the second point I think to highlight is if you look to the breakdown of the market and it's difficult to give you today any number of our ambition this market because this is changing we mentioned just in the presentation we see this market in 2030 being in the range of 21.8 billion euros in terms of size. We have three main markets that we can address with our technologies and products and services being obviously the space transportation market so propellants represent probably 60% of this market but you still have important markets for us to continue to develop which is manufacturing and testing and also the satellite propulsion market. So just to conclude early-kid first of all we are very present in this market as we mentioned for more than six decades including the US we are probably the only industrial gas player with you know covering the entire value chain in terms of our technologies from launch to satellite and advanced cryogenics for instance we have a presence it is not only a small presence in the main hubs in the US physical presence through our air separation units and also footprint just to give a figure I think it's important to mention we speak a lot about Blue Origin and SpaceX and others. We were the ones in 2022, the first ones to sell a SpaceX first ASU. And we believe air separation plant that this market in terms of propellants, it will primarily develop under a sale of equipment market, but this market may shift. So the third point to make is that we keep the flexibility of our strategy, of our business and revenue models. and we've been supplying bulk to those players now they're moving to their own self-production with a few over defense opportunities and eddie kid as a group we are going to grab and i can tell you and i'm going to to bring the right level of participation in this market as soon as we also guarantee the right level of returns so that's that's my comment thank you you can tell marcelo is full of patience for space all right thank you very much uh you had a second question on ammonia cracking which is also very interesting that's one area where air

liquid again is taking a lead in terms of technology but not just a lab scale industrialization the action is taking place in Europe not only in Europe and because we have a few other projects developing elsewhere but maybe Emily do you want to speak about this absolutely thank you for the question and thank you for your interest in ammonia cracking so we started in R&D obviously to develop this this technology and then moving on to pilots and now we are at really an industrial pilot stage where it's based in Antwerp and we produce hydrogen it's been growing ongoing for one year already and so we are now at this stage where we can develop offers for our customers who want green or low-carbon hydrogen based out of ammonia cracking so basically if you crack green ammonia you will get a green hydrogen in our mind this is one of the routes to produce green or low-carbon hydrogen it's competitive so it is very promising and it's really one of the promising routes where once again we can really make the difference thanks to our innovation and techno capabilities but clearly if I may just to build on a little bit on that don't sit down because I think one of the things that we want to do and you want to do is to actually connect an ammonia cracking to the hydrogen pipeline network that we have in Europe which seems to give a real advantage can you elaborate a little bit on that and how you want to play that between the different ways to produce low-carbon hydrogen yes absolutely absolutely so there are several basins in Europe where we are so we are the leader and where we supply hydrogen to our customers and through different production assets so you can have an SMR to produce a gray hydrogen you have electrolyzers you have green ammonia crackers and all of these assets are connected through a pipeline to produce hydrogen for our customers and you can adjust based on the power price based on the needs based on the PPA you have to to supply your electrolyzer for instance so this is really where LIT will create most of the value when we really are in a basin and we optimize different assets to produce to different customers thank you very much so we have still 10 minutes to take a question i see that we have some written question uh joe maybe yeah happy to the next written question reads your growth targets for LI and IM imply an acceleration versus the run rate of the past two or three years?

Joe Head of Investor Relations

What are the key drivers of this acceleration?

All right. Francois, do you want to quickly answer this? Take a microphone.

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Thank you. Thank you for the question. Believe me, that's a question we asked ourselves because we would not have published a strategic plan without having an answer for us. so it's really a critical element industry is moving, world GDP is growing so the question is agility, looking at what's happening where it happens, and we combine here what we do with asset loading what we do with redevelopment, what we do with the energy transition, because we believe that the people that are starting to transition are the ones that will be the players of the next decade And as we transform the assets, we can also transform the sources to have the competitiveness on the merchant market. And when you combine the transformation of the assets, the marketing we are putting in place together with the Bolton acquisitions, we are absolutely convinced that we will capture more than our fair share of the growth. Now, can we tell you if it's going to be in the US, in Europe or in China? That we don't. but we manage the portfolio so that we can catch the opportunities wherever they appear. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Francois. And what we like very much is that more than 40% of our growth in large industry is already secure. You know, it takes time to build the plan. So what we are going to sign is going to contribute for the end of the plan. And of course, for the next plan, because after beyond, of course, there will be an after beyond. Next question, please, Joe. Sure.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

In the next five years, how significantly will AI redefine internal collaboration?

That's a great question. Mathieu, you manage the AI initiative, so go ahead.

Thank you, Francois, and thank you for the questions. So, difficult to talk about strategy without talking about AI in 2026. So, we are putting a lot of efforts into our roadmap, of course. so internally the first layer we are looking at is clearly how we can enhance our teams and how they can use better AI so we've deployed basically Google Gemini to our 65,000 associates so they can use it every day 800 champions 130,000 training sessions so I think that layer is absolutely there people are looking at it they are using it every day and we see this incremental efficiency and productivity coming from it. So that's that's a key one. Then we are moving to what is going to change intrinsically the way we work at Air Liquide and we've decided to be extremely focused and to concentrate ourselves on the program that are going to move the needle. And so we have a few roadmap that I mentioned earlier during the presentation. We are extremely targeted and basically we are rolling that through our organization. It's fully embedded into our plan but of course AI is changing every day so we will probably or certainly accelerate in the months and years to come so the my colleagues touch on a few topics already today what you understand that AI is absolutely everywhere actually we have more than a third of our processes today that are already impacted by AI so I can give you 20 examples so we have only five minutes left so I will only pick one the one that I probably prefer the most because you you talked a lot about it is around the the Salesforce effectiveness so we are basically using AI to select the right prospect in line with density densification so we know where we want to go we know how to prepare ourselves and basically all of that is stream directly into our CRM system so AI is for us every day something that we use it's the same for our team and it will only accelerate in the next few years Is this something which is working today or this is just an idea? No, today it is working. Again, when you look at what we process every year, today we have more than a million call a month where our teams are already using AI every day to enter data into the system. Our sales team are using it every day. So everything that we have mentioned today is live. And again, it's already impacting a third of our processes. Great. Thank you very much.

We have a last question, at least the last question we will take on the platform, a written question.

Joe Head of Investor Relations

What could disrupt your business overall?

Interesting question. Indeed, if we have four minutes to conclude on that. I think overall, probably what could disrupt our business, which could disrupt, I would say, the world economy, is a major turndown due either from an economic crisis, from a geopolitical context. So that's probably, I mean, would be the biggest risk. The good news or the positive news, I would say, is that you see by now that there's a lot of things which are self-help improvement. And you have heard our commitment. You understand also the flexibility that we have to play with the different levers. So I do believe that an event like that would have an effect on the global economy, on our customer, but probably much better than many others. Eddie Kidd will stay the course in this context. We have a last, at least we will take one more and one last question live. Please go ahead.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from the line of Sebastian Bray from Berenberg. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Bray Analyst — Berenberg

Hello, good afternoon, and thank you for the presentations and taking my questions. I'd have two, please. The first one is on the buyback. When is the most likely time for this to get going? I suspect it's the start of 27, but just wanted to check. And the second one is on the long term. If this company is going to be hitting 25-26% EBIT margins by the end of a strategic period if it hits its goals, do you view that as the natural long-term level beyond that period or is it too early to comment?

Sébastien, I will ask Jérôme to answer the first question and I will finish with your last long-term question.

Thank you, Sébastien. So, on buyback, our commitment is to go and to execute the program, and we'll want to execute by end of 2028, the latest. We'll see how we can execute it depending on the market condition. Also, we're looking at the best way to operate them. But basically, I cannot give you an exact, I would say, agenda so far.

But clearly, it's on top of our agenda to execute it, I would say, as soon as possible. and again 4 billion by end of 28 the latest that's clear Sebastian thank you very much for outlining I mean the ambitious margin improvement by 2030 but of course this is not the end of the road and we have internally I mean a high ambition for a decade because we do believe that we have the potential to continue to create value what you see here is again I do believe an ambitious plan. But you see also that there is a lot of ground, ideas, initiatives behind that, both to improve the efficiency, but also to improve the top line and to grow. So all in all, we feel very comfortable about the trajectory that we are outlining in beyond. But by no means, this is the end of our ambition for the plan, and I would say after the plan. I think it's time to conclude. So I would like to thank all of you for your attention. I hope you enjoy the session as much as we did and you share the excitement of the management team to look ahead with this new strategic plan. I would like to warmly thank the management team who is here, but also all the contributors to make this event as lively, instructive, extensive as possible. I do look forward to meeting some of you in the next few days during our roadshows, being in Paris, in London, in New York or in Boston. And I know that we will meet or talk with many of you also during the Q3 announcement at the end of the month. Today is just a start. I trust that you see already that with Beyond, we are clearly raising the bar. And that Air Liquide is entering, with excitement and determination, a new chapter in lasting value creation. Thank you very much again, and I wish all of you a good day. Thanks.

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