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Earnings call · FY2025 Q4

Navitas Semiconductor Corp (NVTS) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's 4th Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. If anyone needs assistance at any time during the conference call, please press the star key followed by the zero on your touchtone phone. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Tuesday, February 24, 2026. I would not like to turn the conference over to Brett Perry of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Brett, please go ahead.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Operator.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Good afternoon and welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's fourth quarter 2025 financial results conference call. Joining us on today's call are Navitas President and CEO, Chris Alexandra, CFO Todd Clickman. I'd like to remind our listeners that the results announced today are preliminary as they are subject to the company finalizing its closing procedures in customary quarterly review by the company's independent registered public accounting firm. As such, these results are unaudited and subject to revision until the company files its Form 10-K for its year ended December 31, 2025. In addition, management's prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Therefore, the company claims the protection of the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ from those discussed today, and therefore, we refer you to a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. In addition, any projections as to the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today, February 24, 2026. Navitas assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future as market conditions may or may not change, except to the extent required by applicable law. Additionally, in the company's press release and management statements during this conference call, we'll include discussions of certain measures and financial information in both GAAP and non-GAAP terms. included in the company's press release of definitions and reconciliations of gapped and non-gapped items, which provide additional details. For those of you unable to listen to the entire call at this time, the recording will be available via webcast for 90 days in the investor relations section of Navitas' website at www.navitascemi.com. And now, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Navitas' president and CEO. Chris, please go ahead.

Good afternoon, and we appreciate you joining us today. I'm pleased to be hosting my second quarterly conference call as Navitas CEO. We close out the year with a productive fourth quarter as we continue to accelerate our pivot to Navitas 2.0 and align the entire organization to focus on addressing high-power markets. In fact, it has been energizing five months to join the company, and my conviction in our industry-leading GAN and high-voltage SICK solution has only grown stronger, and that our strategic pivot is on the right path to successfully scale the company to the next level. Before providing comments and updates specifically to the quarter, I want to briefly reiterate several key elements on our previously communicated strategic transformation and our vision to what we call Navitas 2.0. First, we're accelerating our pivot away from the company's historical mobile and low-end consumer business to focus on high-power markets where our GAN and high-voltage SIG products can deliver real differentiation and value through higher density, efficiency, and reliability. We are laser-focused on four high-growth, high-value market segments, AI data center, energy and green infrastructure, performance computing, and industrial electrification. Collectively, this segment represents a serviceable addressable market of $3.5 billion by 2030, split roughly 50-50 between GAN and high-voltage 6, with a combined CAGR of more than 60%. Although the largest portion of this $3.5 billion RAM are within AI data centers and grid energy infrastructure, I want to emphasize that AI is a shared underlying catalyst across our four target markets. driving a rapid acceleration in terms of re-architecture infrastructure, customer expectation, and the adoption of the new high-voltage technology. We're leveraging our proven 10-year tracks record as a pioneer of GAN at scale, having shipped over 300 million unit GAN devices, coupled with a deep expertise in system and application, as well as our leadership in high-habilitation, high-voltage seek through our genesis technology. The end goal of Navitas 2.0 strategy transformation is straightforward, to rapidly penetrate, secure expanded customer engagement, and achieve scale, resulting in a more sustainable, consistent, and future profitable growth for Navitas. Turning to a brief recap of our fourth quarter results, As initial progress of our Pivot to Navitas 2.0, we've completed a realignment of the entire organization, both in terms of skills and geography, to focus on addressing high-power markets. These include fully redeploying organizational resources, run-map, and focus accordingly. Revenue in the fourth quarter came at the high end of our Gallium's range, at $7.3 million, Coupled with the fourth quarter being the first time that a high-power market represents the majority of our total revenue, we remain confident that the fourth quarter was the bottom. Notably, our mobile business declined sequentially from a majority of revenue in Q3 to less than 25% of total revenue in Q4. We expect mobile to continue going down as a percentage of quarterly revenue and become insignificant by the end of 26. Also consistent with our comment last quarter, we're guiding to quarter-over-quarter growth for Q1 and anticipate continued sequential growth throughout 26, driven by increasing sales traction in a high-power market. Over the last several months, as part of my expanded meetings with customers and partners, I've seen numerous proof points that the new technology adoption is accelerating. AI is a catalyst, changing the game across markets. Existing technologies and architecture are no longer sufficient. The industry is moving faster than it ever has in terms of technology adoption, with customers clearly moving to take advantage of GAN and high-voltage technology. As previously mentioned, AI is a primary catalyst that's rising momentum and bordering the adoption of high-power solutions across all four of our target high-power markets. Every interaction with customers has confirmed the market is undergoing specular change and that AI is sparkling a revolution we're focused on. This impending inflection point in architecture, design, and technology adoption is highly favorable to GAN and high-voltage SIC, putting Navitas 2.0 at the center of this revolution. As outlined in our last call, the Navitas 2.0 transformation to a high-power company is being backed by decisive actions and grounded in four pillars that include market focus, technology leadership, operational efficiency, and financial discipline. Let me now review with you the major progress that we've made in each of these areas since our last earning call. Starting with market focus. As I mentioned earlier, we're sharply focused on the high-power market of AI data center, energy and grid infrastructure, performance computing, and industrial electrification. In AI data centers specifically, Navitas is uniquely positioned as one of the leaders in GAN and high-voltage SIC, supporting all major AI data center architectures. The density of compute power will require a higher efficiency and poor obesity. It's driving the acceleration of GAN in next-generation data centers. During the quarter, we've accelerated samplings of product and solution delivery with our 100-volt GAN and 650-volt GAN targeted at AI Design Center, 800-volt HVDC, and 48-volt IBC-HVBAC architecture. Samples are currently available in different package sites and are being evaluated by more than a dozen customers. More recently, on February 9, we announced our breakthrough 10-kilowatt DCDC design platform. This is an all-GAN 10-kilowatt, 800-volt to 50-volt DC-DC platform, which employs advanced 650-volt and 100-volt GAN fat cells in a three-level half-bridge architecture with synchronous actification. This platform has delivered a 98.5% peak efficiency, which we believe is the best in the industry so far. This full-brick package design platform achieves living power density and support plus or minus 400 volt BGC standard for AI data centers. This is a great example on how Navitas is able to leverage our 10 years of GAN and system expertise. We're setting the benchmark for scalable, high-performance AI infrastructure. Our product portfolio enables unprecedented power density to support rapid, large-scale expansion of AI data centers while also allowing hyperscalers and OEM the ability to maximize compute density and reduce energy loss in support of deploying next-generation AI workload. On the sixth front, we are very active supporting customers in their ACDC PSU designs for current AI data center architecture with our latest 1.2 kV six devices, leveraging our latest fifth-generation Genesic technology announced earlier this month. This product brings improved figures of merit and best-in-class thermal behavior, the top-side cooling QD-packed package that are being well-received by customers. In the grid and energy infrastructure market, the energy grid is in the process of a major transformation and modernization to support the AI catalyst, but also overall growth in energy demand. This is not a short cycle, but rather a multi-decade, secular, and sustainable trend that will transform grid and energy infrastructure. As a result, we are seeing an acceleration in the design cycles here as well. We are leading this effort with our new ultra-high voltage 2.3 kV and 3.3 kV-6 module and roadmap to even higher voltage. We are now in evaluation with over 15 OEMs globally, mostly in the U.S. and Europe, with notable acceleration in the U.S. In performance computing, we continue to see increased GAN adoption in high-power chargers and power units for high-end computing and AI notebooks, replacing silicon. We have more than 15 projects in production, and approximately twice that number in designing across 170 watts, 200 watts, 250 watts, 240 watts, and up to 360 watts with leading global computing companies. We expect to continue gaining momentum in the performance computing market throughout 2016. And lastly, in industrial electrification, we're starting to see GAN and high-voltage SIG traction in high-performance applications, spanning industrial pumps and heavy equipment electrification like DC-DC converters and megawatt chargers. Turning to our second pillar, technology leadership, we continue to prioritize innovation across GAN and high-voltage SIG technology, including both product and solution, supported by expanding customer engagement and co-development project one example of this innovation and system expertise was our breakthrough 10 kilowatt dcdc platform that i just discussed previously another highlight was our announcement during the last quarter of our 2 300 volt and 3 300 volt ultra high voltage sick module portfolio which we have accelerated sampling to more customers These modules feature probably trench-assisted planar technology for AI scalability, avalanche robustness, and performance in mission-critical application across grid-type infrastructure, energy storage, and megawatt-scale fast charging. These products are available in SIG-PAC G-PLUS power modules, discrete packages, and non-good dive format with extended AAC-PLUS scalability testing. As mentioned earlier, we announced last week our Gen 5 technology, an upcoming new 1.2 kV SIG QDPAC product targeting PSU ACDC for AI data centers. Our new Gen 5 SIG technology continues to improve the figure of merits of our leading genistic technology. It leverages our trench-assisted planner TAAP architecture, best-in-class thermal behaviors, and top-side cooling in QDPAC. We're now sampling our first new 1.2kV Gen 5.6 product to multiple OEM and ODM, designing high-power PSUs and ACDC for AI drive centers. On our third pillar, operational efficiency, we have taken actionable steps to create a more streamlined and rebalance geographically deployed organization. We have been receiving strong employee buy-in and releasing tangible benefits from these efforts. Also, on November 20th, we were pleased to announce a long-term strategic technology and manufacturing partnership with Global Foundries to accelerate GAN technology design and manufacturing in the United States. This partnership enables secure, scalable solutions for our target high-power market and ensures that Navitas can deliver the performance, efficiency, and scale our customer demand. It also provides Navitas the opportunity to manufacture our solution in critical and national security applications in the U.S. Development began a few weeks ago, and both companies are deeply collaborating with production expected to begin later in the year and accelerate in 2007. Over time, we expect to transition to 8-inch in order to lower product costs and increase scale. Also, during the quarter, we executed action to restructure and optimize our go-to-market strategy. This included significant consolidation of distribution channel partners from approximately 40 to less than 10 distributors. We have the ability to scale and are well-threaded for serving high-power market while removing producing mobile-centric distributors. And our fourth pillar, financial discipline, centers on resource realignment in support of our focus on high-power markets. This includes a very targeted 19% reduction in net count in the fourth quarter, offset by realignment action to support the Navitas 2.0 shift, including hiring new employees well-equipped for high-power markets, in particular within the United States. As evidenced by our fourth quarter revenue mix, we have made tremendous progress. We also brought in new additional leaders with skills in sales and marketing, R&D, and operations with a focus on enabling stronger execution. These collective actions focus the entire company on the high-power market and provide a foundation for efficient and effective execution going forward. Even with a larger market opportunity, our resource alignment allows us to efficiently focus our quarterly spent on the high-power market. As a result, we are targeting to maintain operating expenses flat throughout the coming year. We also expect to drive gradual margin expansion throughout 26 through improving scale and mix of high-power business. Lastly, to further strengthen our balance sheet and fund future operation, we completed a private placement of common stock in November with net proceed of approximately $96 million, of dollars, contributing to a quarterly end-cash balance of $237 million of dollars. We've perceived further support our Navitas 2.0 strategy, accelerating our transformation and funding working capital for scalable growth and long-term value creation. In closing, I am very pleased with the overall progress we achieved in a relatively short period of time. Speed is a financial element of our company's culture, and it's clearly working. We are positioning Navitas 2.0 as a high-power company, sharpening our focus and execution to enable scalable growth. Looking ahead, we anticipate a return to top-line sequential growth starting in the first quarter, fueled by increased revenue from high-power markets. When combined with the benefit of our optimized cost structure, streamlined go-to-market approach, an accelerated product roadmap, who are also positioned to achieve gradual improvement in gross margin and bottom-line results over the coming year. I'm incredibly proud of the team's dedication, hard work, and agility in building to Manitas 2.0 vision. I also want to thank our customers for their support to our new strategic variation, as well as ongoing contribution to mutually beneficial collaboration and partnership. With that, I'll turn the call over to Todd to review our fourth quarter and full-year results, as well as our first quarter guidance.

Thank you, Chris. In my comments today, I will take you through our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results, and then I'll walk you through some of the important Q4 achievements and market dynamics, as well as our outlook for the first quarter, 2026. I will then return it to Chris for final remarks before we take questions. Revenue in the fourth quarter of 2025 exceeded the high end of guidance at $7.3 million compared to $10.1 million in the third quarter of 2025. As expected, revenue for the quarter reflects our strategic decision to deprioritize our low-power, lower-profit China mobile and consumer business, as well as our efforts to streamline our distribution network to align our focus on high-power markets. As Chris mentioned, our high-power markets represented a majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time in the company's history. with mobile declining to less than 25%. This is a very important milestone and representative of our strategic shift. As mentioned before, we believe that Q4 represented the bottom for revenue as our strategic actions support driving increased contribution from our high-powered business going forward. Before addressing gross profit and expenses, I'd like to refer you to the gap-to-non-gap reconciliations in our press release. In the rest of my commentary, I will refer to non-GAAP measures. I would also like to point out that our GAAP results for the fourth quarter included a $16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge that consisted of approximately $10 million of distribution contract terminations, $4 million of fixed asset impairments, and $2 million of workforce reduction expenses associated with realigning the entire organization and distribution channel to focus on addressing high-power markets. Of the $16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge in the quarter, $3.8 million was non-cash-related items. Gross margin in the fourth quarter was $38.7 million, which was flat sequentially with the prior quarter, reflecting the ability to maintain our margin profile despite the lower quarterly revenue. At these revenue levels, we do not yet have the leverage to overcome our fixed costs, but we expect this to improve as we further grow revenue from high-power markets. As mentioned in our last earnings call, we expect to deliver expanded margins as we pursue a mixed change towards higher-power markets and away from mobile and low-end consumer. During the fourth quarter, we executed on a 19% workforce reduction. mostly deployed to mobile and consumer, and an organizational realignment towards U.S. high-powered customers and markets, thereby reducing operating expenses sequentially from $15.4 million to $14.9 million. This is part of our strategic plan to realign companies' resources to the Navitas 2.0 focus. Operating expenses were comprised of SG&A expenses of $6.8 million and R&D expenses of $8.1 million. These expense levels align with our cost reduction targets. The fourth quarter of 2025 loss from operations was $12.1 million compared to $11.5 million in the third quarter of 2025, as the reduction in operating expenses did not fully offset the decrease in revenue. Our weighted average share count for the fourth quarter was approximately 222 million shares. For the full year 2025, revenue was $45.9 million compared to $83.3 million in 2024. Gross margin for the full year was 38.4% compared to 40.4% last year. 2025 operating expenses were $63.6 million compared to $83.4 million in 2024. The full-year loss from operation was $46 million versus $49.7 million last year. As Chris mentioned, the fourth quarter represented the bottom in quarterly revenue, and we expect to return to top-line sequential growth throughout 2026 as we continue our transition to high-power markets. Turning to the balance sheet, accounts receivable was down to $3.6 million from $9.8 million in the third quarter, reducing our DSOs to 45 days. Inventory decreased to $13.3 million from $14.7 million last quarter. Cash and cash equivalents at quarter end were approximately $237 million, reflecting net proceeds of approximately $96 million from our completed private placement of common stock in November 2025. The company continues to carry no debt. Our balance sheet remains very strong as we exit the year with a high-level liquidity and improved working capital position. Moving to guidance for the first quarter of 2026, we expect revenue to increase sequentially to between $8 million and $8.5 million. This represents the first quarter-over-quarter growth since the company's pivot. As I just mentioned, we expect sequential growth to continue throughout the year, driven by increasing revenue contribution from high-power markets. Gross margin for the first quarter is expected to be 38.7%, plus or minus 25 basis points. We continue to anticipate the technological innovations to bring to high-power, high-growth markets will result in progressive expansion of future gross margins. Turning to operating expenses, we anticipate operating expenses to remain approximately $15 million for the first quarter. We expect to continue to allocate resources and expenses as we redeploy company resources towards higher power, customer, and markets, particularly within the U.S. This redeployment of resources is expected to offset the strategic downsizing of our facilities to result in flat operating expenses. For the first quarter, we expect our weighted average share count to be approximately 230 million shares. In closing, we are pleased with our initial progress and accelerated pivot to Novotis 2.0. As evidenced by high-power products representing the majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time, we expect to increasingly benefit from the broadening adoption of our GAN and high-voltage stick products in targeted high-power markets. Together, with our recent actions to reallocate resources, optimize operational efficiencies, and restructure distribution channels, we believe that Navitas is on a path to deliver improving margins and bottom-line results. I'd now like to turn the call back to Chris for some final comments before opening the call to questions.

As we close today's call, I want to address one additional matter. After an extraordinary 10 years of dedicated service, Todd has decided to step down as CFO to pursue other opportunities. He has been an invaluable partner to everyone in the company, bringing financial discipline, strategic insight, and weathering integrity that helped steer us through periods of both growth and challenges. Todd has also been a great partner over the last six months, helping to pivot and transition the company to Navitas 2.0. On behalf of the entire board and executive team, I want to extend our gratitude for all of its contributions over the past decade. We have strong financial organization in place, and Todd is fully committed to assisting in a seamless transition until its successor has been named. We expect to communicate in the coming weeks regarding Todd's replacement and Navita's new CFO. We enter in these two chapters with confidence in our strategy, our momentum, and our ability to continue delivering long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you again for joining us today. Operators, we might now open the call to questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening via speakerphone in your device, Please pick up your handset to ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. With your request for today's session, that you please limit to one question and one follow-up question and thank you for any additional questions. And our first question comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Kevin Garrigan Analyst — Jefferies

Yeah, hey, Chris and Todd. Congrats on the results. And Todd, best of luck on your next path forward. Hey, can you guys just walk us through how each of the high-power end markets perform in Q4 and how we should think about the trajectory for each of those markets in Q1?

Yeah. Well, obviously, you know, our quarter-on-quarter growth in revenue was due to the high-power markets, so they are performing well. We're not going to sort of break out the high-power markets at this time, but we do expect all of them to be performing on a go-forward basis as mobile becomes immaterial as we move through the year.

Kevin Garrigan Analyst — Jefferies

Okay, got it. And then as a follow-up, can you just update us on the progress of the 800-volt architecture opportunity, and can you give us a sense of a timeline on customer decisions?

Hi, Kevin. This is Chris. As we talked last time, there's a lot of work going on between us and the hyperscalers, not only one but multiple of them, on the adoption of the 800-volt HVDC. We sampled, as we mentioned in the press release and in the script, some of the new products that will be used in this type of architecture. We also announced a leading edge, you know, 800-volt to 50-volt BCDC brick that demonstrates the performance we can get with those products. So there's a continuation of collaboration. It's a bit too early to kind of, you know, tell you when this will be confirmed, but I think we are getting closer and closer with our customers.

Kevin Garrigan Analyst — Jefferies

Okay, great. I appreciate it, Keller. Congrats again on the results.

Thank you. The one thing I would add, Kevin, is, you know, everybody refers to the 800-volt HVDC as a step function for power content in the AI data center, and this is true, especially with the adoption of GAN replacing silicon as you move to the 800-volt HVDC, right? But I would outline that in AIDC, and you've heard it from multiple vendors, is that there is an acceleration of demand also in using the classic architecture, which is ACDC, right, using SICK. And we see, you know, a growth throughout the year ahead of the step function with GAN in HVDC.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt. Your line is open.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Yeah, thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the progress. Just as you mentioned, you're working with the hyperscalers. Are you working directly with them? Would they be building their own power supplies? Or is that going to be a pull from the current power suppliers to the hyperscalers?

Kevin, it's actually all of the above. So the hyperscalers, particularly two, are driving the new architecture, right? Both in terms of what they expect in terms of density and power level in the ACDC PSUs, as well as the 800 volt, either 50 volt or even lower voltage, you know, HVDC architecture, right? Now, we don't work only with the hyperscalers. If you think about PSU, which is, you know, clearly designed in OEMs and ODMs that are serving those hyperscalers. And if you look at the HVDC, a lot of companies that are classic merchant power companies serving the hyperscalers are also doing designs on this new architecture. So we work with everybody. I would tell you that the drive of the change of the architecture comes from the U.S. and the hyperscalers. But a lot of OEM and ODM in Taiwan, in China, but also in the U.S. are driving that. And as you know, we just announced this board, right, which I mentioned, which was basically a co-development with a customer. And that's basically to showcase the level of efficiency you can get by using GAN on the primary side and GAN on the secondary side in an 800-volt to 50-volt DC-DC break. And you're going to see more of those reference implementations in the future as well.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Okay, great. Thanks for that detail. And have any of your customers or the hyperscalers given you an idea of when that inflection point would be, of when they start doing the installations?

As I said just earlier on Kevin's question, there are two streams, if you prefer, of the AI data center growth. Number one is more data centers, more power, and that drives more PSUs, higher power PSUs, and that drives the growth in SIC, which we are seeing throughout 26. When it comes to the 800-volt HVDC, which I think is your question, when there is a discontinuity and you cannot use silicon anymore on the primary side because you're 800 volts and you have to move to a high-voltage GAN. This is really driven by not the GPU change, but the rack architecture change. As you compact more GPUs into a single rack and you get to a megawatt rack, you cannot get the power density and the efficiency with silicon. And that's this discontinuity. I would say, as we said before, this is really about 27. Will GAN be used slightly earlier? It could. There is a case where you can use GAN in the 48-volt IBC replacing silicon, as I mentioned in the script, where GAN brings, you know, higher efficiency. You can do it with silicon, but you get higher efficiency, and this might be the first time you see GAN in data centers. But the real step function is really coming from the 800-volt DC, which is really kind of linked to the KABRAC. which is the higher integration of GPUs.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Okay, understood. And also, I'll give my best wishes to Todd. Pleasure working with you. Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with VDAM. Your line is open.

Quinn Bolton Analyst — Needham

Hey, guys. Congratulations on the progress, on the transformation to Novotel 2.0, and best wishes to you, Todd. I guess, Chris, I wanted to come back on the 800 HVDC solution. And especially if you think about the primary side of that 800-volt rail, there are still a lot of folks in the industry that I think are talking about using silicon carbide in that 800-volt conversion step. You guys are obviously pushing the GAN solution. But I guess, can you say, what are you seeing from the leading GPU and hyperscaler vendors that are looking at the 800-volt or the 400-plus-minus rack architecture? So are they pushing more for GAN? Are they open to both GAN and silicon carbide solutions? Just how do you see this playing out from a technology perspective between GAN and silicon carbide?

Thank you, Quinn. It's a very good question, actually, because I think there is some level of confusion. First of all, I would tell you that we are not pushing anything. We have both SIC and GAN, and we welcome SIC being used on the primary side if it's needed and GAN being used on the primary side if that's needed. So we're not pushing anything. We are being pulled. We've not seen any significant use case of board implementation or customer evaluation using SICK on the primary side. SICK is being used widely at 1.2 kilovolts, as I mentioned, in the classic ACDC, right, which is basically prior to the 800-volt DC. But when it comes to 800-volt DC, we've been pulled by customers. And I'm talking about hyperscalers to Kevin's question here that are really driving the GAN adoption because it's more efficient and more driving higher density.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Okay.

Quinn Bolton Analyst — Needham

And then, Chris, you also talked about your 10-kilowatt all-GAN brick solution. Can you give us a sense, is that more of a reference platform or would that be a solution that Navitas would look to source that entire brick-level product? Because I imagine it includes a fair amount of additional components And so just thinking about, you know, to the extent you're selling the full brick solution, I imagine that might be pretty high dollar content. So could you just talk about whether you would really just sell the GAN solutions as part of that brick? Would you sell the entire brick? And if you did sell the entire brick, what would the margin implications be?

So we view this for the customers. So first of all, as I mentioned, this is something we've done with a customer. We have not done that in a vacuum on our own, right? This is something that we've co-developed with the leading customer. Number one. Number two is we don't compete with customers, okay? At this stage, we don't see a path where we're going to sell the modules. Now, that design is shared with our customers and the hyperscalers as well as the ODM and OEM that are looking at how we've been able to achieve that high level of efficiency, right, 98.5%, which we believe, based on what we've seen and some of our computers' feedback on top of customers, are one of the best in the industry, right? So I would tell you this is for us. This is what we've done in GAN historically. We pioneered GAN in mobile by demonstrating and helping customers to get to highest level of efficiency, lowest EMI, highest level of density, and we are doing the same in AI Data Center. And this is what I talk about when we talk about 2.0. So we're leveraging the benefit and the skills of 1.0, right? And this system expertise makes a difference. At the end of the day, we are in the business of selling GAN and silicon carbide and enabling our customers. As a matter of fact, on that board, we're using some of our computers, you know, silicon and other, you know, technologies and products that we don't have. But the focus is how to show and help the customers to accelerate the adoption of GAN in HVDC.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Thank you very much, Chris.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of John Panwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

John Panwanteng Analyst — CJS Securities

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. And I'll join the queue in wishing Todd well wishes on his journey. If you could start, maybe talk a little bit about the competitive landscape in supplying the Energy Vault Data Center. What are you seeing just in terms of who you're bidding against in these sockets? if they're, you know, outpricing you or doing better in technology? And on top of that, you know, how is your partnership with Infineon involving in that space as well? Thank you.

Thank you for your question, John. So I'll start with the end. We continue our partnership with Infineon. We have a cross license, as you know, and we share the same vision, which is to enable the accelerated adoption of GAN and silicon carbide in the AIDC, right? So SICK has the traditional architecture and GAN in the 800-volt DC, right? So there's a lot of dialogue between the two companies on that front, right? Number two, you know, you would have seen that there are multiple vendors having been listed on the 800-volt AI factory kind of ecosystem. As a matter of fact, I think it's up to 13 vendors today. But we don't see all of them in each of the socket we target. So I would recommend that you look at how many of those 13s are actually in the high-voltage GAN. So how many of them have a 650-volt GAN in the right package to be able to enable 800-volt HVDC? How many of them have mid-voltage GAN to enable the 50-volt secondary side? Some of them are listed as a silicon vendor. We are listed as a GAN vendor. The other thing is, as we talked about SIG being used on the ACDC as well, there is a natural pool on more SICK as we get to a higher voltage.

And also outside of data center.

To do the 800-volt HVDC, you need to enable a change of the grid architecture. This is a pure high-voltage, ultra-high-voltage SICK play. So what I'll tell you is there's a lot of competition, but not everybody is competing on the same thing. And there are not many of the vendors being listed that have both high-voltage SICK or ultra-high-voltage SICK. either competing in the ACDC with 1.2 kV or in the grid with 2 kV and above and having high-voltage and mid-voltage GAN. So this competition pool is actually being reduced. That's why we are very clear about what we do. We don't play in the silicon. We play in the GAN, high-voltage, mid-voltage, and in the high-voltage and high-voltage SIC.

John Panwanteng Analyst — CJS Securities

Got it. Thank you. And then second, could you upsell us on the incremental margin of either this 800-volt data center products or high-powered products in general, especially as you roll on these suppliers?

So first of all, as Todd said, right, we expect continuous gross margin expansion. So remember that the growth this year is coming from all high-power markets and the basically mobile going down, right, being less than 25%. What I would tell you is the scale is going to help more gross margin as we grow revenue, some of our fixed costs that drive margin expansion. Number two is the high-power product in the high-power market are coming at a higher margin than mobile was, okay? And that mix is going to change. And the third one is we are very active in ramping new suppliers, partly on the package side, that will help us to reduce costs, right? So there is multiple aspects of how we are confident to see gross margin expansion as we clearly outline for the rest of 26, right? And as we scale further in 27, we expect that to continue.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Again, if you would like to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from the line of Jack Egan with Charter Equity Research. Your line is open.

Jack Egan Analyst — Charter Equity Research

Great. Thanks for taking the question. So I had kind of a follow-up on the gross margin question before me. So as mobile is getting smaller and smaller, I'm kind of curious about the longer-term outlook. Are your gross margins more so going to be driven by mix, as in data center, non-data center, end-market mix? Or is it more kind of the technological innovation, I guess, that Todd mentioned that it sounds like it's referring to new products with higher ASPs? So I guess I'm trying to look at what the driver of the margins, you know, that margin expansion is, whether it's end market mix or, you know, better product margin.

So it's actually going to be a combination of both. So definitely end product mix, right? As mobile decreases, the high power markets are going to give us higher margin. Those are more based on reliability and performance. but then on as we sort of scale and have these new products come into you know the high power markets we do expect like further expansions through like optimized process yields and packaging costs which will help drive our product cost down thereby driving our margins up as well the one thing i would add jack is okay scale cost reduction and and uh and basically higher margin product, right, as Todd said.

But the one thing I would say is that, again, the growth this year, and I think we've been very clear that we are very confident that Q4 is the bottom. We are guiding up for Q1, and we said we're going to grow quarter over quarter throughout the year with margin expansion. I would re-emphasize, again, that the growth is coming from whole high-power markets. Yes, AI data center is a big part of the future outlook, and if you look at The SAM that we shared just a few weeks ago, it's nearly half of the SAM that we see for us in 2030. But I would outline that performance computing is growing this year. It will continue to grow and also help on the margin mix. Grid infrastructure is really accelerating, and I think you're going to see higher ASP product, higher margin product coming in play there, where it's more about reliability and performance and less about cost. Of course, costs matter. And then, as we talked about in AI Data Center, which is a cost-sensitive market, it's all about efficiency right now, okay? And I think you're going to see all those markets contributing to the growth expansion in gross margins, right? So I just wanted to kind of calibrate a little bit your question to make sure that we don't see the growth margin expansion only coming from AI Data Center.

Jack Egan Analyst — Charter Equity Research

Sure, Chris. No, that's super helpful then. And then I guess kind of from a higher level, I know you're not supplying as much into some of the automotive and industrial type markets, but silicon carbide has gone through, just broadly speaking, has gone through a period of pretty significant oversupply. And so I was just kind of curious, what are your expectations on when that supply and demand in some of the other markets might balance out, whether for Navitas or whether the industry as a whole? I know that you're dealing with some large volume wins, so it might not apply to you as much, but just any commentary there would be helpful.

I mean, to be honest with you, John, I think, first of all, as an industry veteran, I would say it's going to take some time, but I think you should ask that to the vendors that are supplying the OEV. we don't. We don't play in the same league of SIC. You've seen me being very clear about the fact that we compete and focus on 1.2 kV for the PSUs for AI Data Center and 2 kV and above up to 5 kV and even more for the grid. This is not about scale of supply. This is about how reliable and efficient and high performance is your technology. So I think for some of the SIG vendors operating at 450 volt, 650 volt, 800 volt, focusing on EV, that's a valid concern. For us, it's about scaling with the ultra-high voltage, which is nothing really related to supply at this stage.

Jack Egan Analyst — Charter Equity Research

Got it. Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Richard Shannon with Craig Kalum. Your line is open.

Richard Shannon Analyst — Craig-Hallum

Well, great, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. And apologies to the ambient noise. I just jumped off the plane here, and I missed a bit of the call here. So I hope I don't repeat any questions here. But Chris, one thing I'd love to ask you is in the AI data center opportunity here, to what degree are your opportunities coming from your partnership and kind of drafting behind, if you will, from Infineon versus other ways? And then also, is there any cross-fertilization of winds within the rack, you know, between point of load and the 800 volt down? and do those kind of cross-fertilize and give you additional benefit at all?

So, very good question. As I mentioned, we partner with Infineon. We have a cross-license. We've done that a couple of years ago. We continue to drive collaboration to enable GAN adoption, both the high-voltage and mid-voltage. I would say that we don't leverage or benefit from Infineon. What you will see is, I think I got a question earlier from Kevin, who are you bumping into most of the time? I would say, you know, it's probably Infineon and surely Infineon because they have the same vision. They have the same technology, you know, high-voltage GAN, mid-voltage GAN, and SICK, and ultra-high-voltage SICK as well for the grid infrastructure. So there are very similarities. So we bump into each other. We follow each other. But I would not say that we leverage Infineon, right? Now, interestingly enough, when we released a package, we found that because we talk to the same customers, we think the same way, you know, we end up seeing the technology the same way. That's what I would say. On your question about expansion of portfolio, that's something we are looking at. My focus right now was to pivot the company and put every X we have, every engineer we have, every focus we have on the four high-power markets and the high-voltage GAN and high-voltage SIC. But we are looking at opportunity to expand the portfolio. As you get higher voltage in the data center, you're going to need circuit protection, and that's something we're going to look at in the future, right? But for now, we are laser-focused on execution with the product we have and we just released.

Richard Shannon Analyst — Craig-Hallum

Fair enough. Thanks for that, Chris. And the second question probably for Todd, just on gross margins. If I caught the end of this repair to March, you talked about not having enough scale to really drive leverage on gross margins quite yet here. Is there a revenue level by which that happens here and kind of what's that fall through margin when you start to see that trajectory?

Yeah, that's a great question. As our mix changes, obviously our margins will grow. but right now we have that scale issue. We do see margins starting to expand again in Q2 and beyond. So that's sort of the tripping point right now.

What I would tell you, Jack, is the high-power markets and the high-power product in the high-power market are coming at higher margin. The mobile is going down. We said that in Q4 it was 25%, and we said it's going to continue to go down and get insignificant by the end of 26, right? So I think we are very confident that the mix of the mix change, the higher power product in the high power market increase as a percentage of the company, and the new product and the cost reduction we have will yield to gross margin expansion. So you'll see it light and clear, okay, starting not very far from now.

Richard Shannon Analyst — Craig-Hallum

Appreciate that detail.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

And Todd, good luck on your next endeavor.

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with D-NAMP. Your line is open.

Quinn Bolton Analyst — Needham

Hey, thanks for taking that follow-up question. Chris, you spent a lot of time talking about the 800-volt data center opportunity, but you also talked about needing to re-architect the grid. I just wondered if you could spend a second talking about the opportunity for the high-voltage silicon carbide and the solid-state transformers. sort of where are you in the design process for some of those solid-state transformers? And is there a way you can ballpark, like, what's the dollar content opportunity? I don't know if it's on a per-megawatt basis or a per-unit basis, but is there a way to size, you know, what the, you know, the amount of high-voltage SIC that goes into a solid-state transformer as those start to be deployed as the grid is re-architected?

Thank you, Quinn, for this follow-up question. Actually, I'm glad you asked that question because everybody focuses on AI DC data center, and everybody's focusing on the 800-volt HVDC architecture, which is important because it's a discontinuity in the architecture. It's a replacement of silicon by GAN or by high-voltage technology. But none of this is possible if the grid is not changing. And this is not just about getting a more efficient grid. It's a change of the architecture. And you refer to SSDs, which is basically getting from 35,000 volt AC, super high power, high voltage lines, down to 800 volt DC at the highest level of reliability. That drives a change. And I tell you, I've never seen the grid infrastructure changing that fast. So you asked me, and I think we said it in the script and in the press release. We are accelerating the sampling of our 2.3 kV and 3.3 kV. Applications are any grid-tight application. SST, of course, but battery energy system, megawatt chargers, solar farm at the grid-tight level. Any of those applications are in accelerated designs. We are very busy talking to all those customers. That's why I said it's two legs, okay? We have four high-power market, but if I look at the future, Those two legs, the AIDC and the grid, are equally important. And this is a pure high-voltage SICK play. And to the earlier question about EV, this is not the same technology because what you have to deliver is high reliability technology, high reliable modules. So it's a different play, right? So I'm glad you asked the question. We see an accelerated design momentum. Of course, it's going to take time. This is a longer design cycle than computing. It's a longer design cycle than AIDC. But I think you'll start to see a significant revenue growth starting 27. To your question about content, in the last investor meeting we had, we basically referred to $25,000 to $35,000 per megawatt of total content for Navitas as a SAM, which is based, again, on ultra-high voltage, high-voltage 6, so 1.2 kV and 2 kV and above, and GAN. And about 10 to 12 is actually outside of data center. So you think about 25 to 35, 10 to 12 of this is outside of data center, which is purely SST, BSS, and all those applications, right? And, again, inside data center, you have a share between SIC for PSUs and GAN as you move to 8-on-the-volt DC. But we should not underestimate the importance and the potential of the grid infrastructure. As a matter of fact, we released a couple of weeks ago a detailed SAM analysis that shows that both GAN and SICK are 50-50% in 2030 in terms of the potential for Navitas to the $3.5 billion that we referred earlier. And you can see that the grid is not far off the SAM of data center. And the other thing I would say is this is just the beginning. So if you think about grid, this is a multiple-decade transformation that will drive higher voltage continuously. We start with 2 kV, we're getting to 3 kV, we're going to get to 5 kV and above. And that's going to drive transformation for the next multiple decades.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Excellent. Thank you.

Operator

That concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to the management team for closing remarks.

Brett Perry Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, everybody, for attending this call.

As you could tell, we are very proud of the progress we are making. The first five months and six months since I joined was about pivoting the company and being clear about where we are going. I think we've done that. We are focusing on accelerating samples of our technology. We have four pillars of the transformation, which I mentioned, market focus, technology, leadership, operational efficiency, and financial discipline. And we'll continue to update you on how we make progress. And I think we have a bright future ahead of us.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining in. You may now disconnect.

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