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Vince Holding Corp. Q4 FY2025 Earnings Call

Vince Holding Corp. (VNCE)

Earnings Call FY2025 Q4 Call date: 2025-05-02 Concluded

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Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Vince Holding Corp. Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2025 Results Conference Call. The operator provided instructions. I would now like to turn the conference over to Akiko Okuma, Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel. You may begin.

Akiko Okuma General Counsel

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Vince Holding Corp. Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2025 Results Conference Call. Hosting the call today is Brendan Hoffman, Chief Executive Officer; and Yuji Okumura, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made on this call may constitute forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those that the company expects. Those risks and uncertainties are described in today's press release and in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's website. Investors should not assume that statements made during the call will remain operative at a later time, and the company undertakes no obligation to update any information discussed on the call. In addition, in today's discussion, the company is presenting its financial results in conformity with GAAP and on an adjusted basis. The adjusted results that the company presents today are non-GAAP measures. Discussions of these non-GAAP measures and information on reconciliations of them to their most comparable GAAP measures are included in today's press release and related schedules, which are available in the Investors section of the company's website at investors.vince.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Brendan.

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I'm incredibly proud of the strong operating results we are announcing today, highlighting the exceptional momentum we delivered at the end of the year that has continued into the start of fiscal 2026. As we announced earlier this year, we saw incredible strength in our direct-to-consumer business over the holiday period, and that remained the case throughout the full quarter. For the fourth quarter, sales in our direct-to-consumer business increased about 10% compared to last year, supported by our ongoing efforts in improving the customer experience and by the strategic pricing actions taken earlier in the fall. For the overall quarter, sales were up nearly 5% compared to last year and profitability outpacing the high end of our prior guidance range. We are especially proud of this performance given the disruption we experienced with developments from Saks Global, which presented a headwind to sales of approximately $2 million in the quarter. With the recent reorganization of Saks Global, we now have more clarity into the situation and are working with our partners there as they move forward in their plans. As a reminder, Saks Global recently represented less than 7% of our total sales. We remain supportive and confident in the new leadership team's ability to stabilize the business. We believe any change in penetration from this one partner going forward will be offset by strength elsewhere in the channel, given our diversified base and strong relationships across our wholesale business. This is a credit to not only our strong partnerships, but to the great product that is resonating across both men's and women's. We were also really pleased as we continue to elevate the product offering appealing to our broad customer base. This strong performance supported by our fiscal 2025 results, which delivered sales growth of over 2% and adjusted EBITDA growth of about 8% despite contending with approximately $8 million of incremental tariff costs. As we have discussed, our teams have done a tremendous job in mitigating the tariff pressures we faced. We acted swiftly, diversifying our sourcing across Asia and globally while working closely with manufacturing partners to maintain the quality standards that define Vince. We also implemented strategic pricing increases while maintaining unit sales validating the strength and quality of our product. As we enter fiscal 2026, I am encouraged by the growth we are continuing to drive, and I'm more confident than ever in the trajectory ahead for Vince Holding Corp. Given this, we are exploring opportunities to continue to invest in the customer experience within our full-price direct-to-consumer business. We are looking at areas like special events, people and store operations, including remodels and new store openings, while also continuing to leverage our digital platform and expand drop ship to additional categories. In spring 2026, these categories will include handbags, tailored clothing, belts and accessories, creating revenue opportunity with minimal inventory risk for the business. In addition, we are continuing to scale our men's business. We ended the year with men's representing approximately 24% of total sales and continue to see opportunity to expand this to 30% penetration, driven by growth in wholesale partnerships and expanded assortments in our own stores and online. And with respect to our international business, our second London store in Marylebone exceeded expectations this year and validated our thoughts on further international expansion. This success gives us confidence to explore additional flagship opportunities in gateway cities like Paris in the next 2 years. Finally, the strategy, I believe, that will really help to accelerate our growth is our focus on maximizing Vince Holding Corp as a platform. While we do not have anything yet to report, we are continuing to look for opportunities to leverage our platform, our world-class team and capabilities to support additional brands. This will create a new revenue stream for Vince Holding Corp. We could not be more enthused by our partnership with ABG, which not only opens channels for us, but also provides great opportunities with respect to marketing and engaging customers. We are thrilled to partner with the ABG team with a recent event at the Masters last week, and we are looking forward to doing similar types of interactive activations with the team for future high-profile events. This is in addition to the elevated outreach that we are also doing in partnership with our wholesale partners. Following the successful brand events at the end of last year with Nordstrom and celebrating our holiday campaign at our Madison Avenue, New York City flagship, we have continued the storytelling around the Vince brand. We recently celebrated an exclusive capsule collection for Spring 2026 as part of Bloomingdale's California Love campaign and hosted an influencer and editor event to showcase the capsule and preview of our Spring 2026 collection with over 100 editors and influencers in attendance. As part of the event, we also co-hosted a private VIC dinner with Bloomingdale VICs complete with a fashion show and model presentation to great success. Fiscal '26 is off to a strong start in all accounts. As Yuji will review and as seen in our outlook in today's press release, the momentum we ended fiscal '25 with has continued across all channels. Our full-price business has never been stronger, reflecting the customers' continued love for the product and value they see for the brand. We believe macro events aside, we are positioned well to continue to deliver healthy profitable growth. A little over a year ago, I returned to Vince as CEO. I cannot emphasize enough the pride that I have in our team, our business and the results we have delivered to date. I want to thank our incredible associates for their dedication and execution throughout fiscal '25. Their ability to evolve the product, maintain quality and execute against our strategic priorities gives me tremendous confidence in the future. We are operating from a position of strength with disciplined execution and a clear road map for growth. I look forward to updating you on our progress as we move through the year. Now I'll turn it over to Yuji to discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail.

Thank you, Brendan, and good morning, everyone. As Brendan reviewed, our fourth quarter performance reflected ongoing strong momentum in our direct-to-consumer segment that we are pleased to see continue into the start of the new year. Before I discuss our first quarter and fiscal 2026 outlook, let me review our fourth quarter results in more detail. Total company net sales for the fourth quarter increased 4.7% to $83.7 million compared to $80 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. With respect to channel performance, our direct-to-consumer segment increased 10.4%, driven by strong performances across both our e-commerce business and stores. This performance offset the 1.2% decline in our wholesale channel, largely driven by the decision to pause shipments to Saks Global. Gross profit in the fourth quarter was $41.1 million or 49.1% of net sales. This compares to $40.1 million or 50.1% of net sales in the fourth quarter of last year. The decrease in gross margin rate was primarily driven by approximately 300 basis points due to the unfavorable impact of higher tariffs, 160 basis points due to the success of our promotional Black Friday and Cyber Monday events and approximately 125 basis points due to increased freight costs. These factors were partially offset by a favorable impact of approximately 380 basis points, primarily due to higher pricing. Selling, general and administrative expenses in the quarter were $44 million or 52.6% of net sales as compared to $37.8 million or 47.2% of net sales for the fourth quarter of last year. The increase in SG&A dollars was primarily driven by $6 million of bad debt expense related to the Saks reorganization. Loss from operations for the fourth quarter was $2.9 million compared to loss from operations of $29.7 million in the same period last year. Adjusted operating income, which excludes the $6 million related to the Saks reorganization, was $3.1 million. This is compared to adjusted operating income of $2.5 million in the same period last year, excluding the impact of goodwill impairment charges and P180 transaction expenses incurred in the period. Net interest expense for the quarter decreased to $0.7 million compared to $1.6 million in the prior year. The decrease was primarily due to paydown of the third lien facility which occurred during January 2025. At the end of the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025, our long-term debt balance was $19.5 million. Income tax expense was $0.5 million compared to $2 million income tax benefit in the same period last year. The year-over-year change is primarily driven by tax benefit taken in the prior comparative quarter due to the reversal of the noncash deferred tax liability associated with the goodwill impairment, which previously could not be used as a source of income to support the realization of certain deferred tax assets related to company's net operating losses. Net loss for the fourth quarter was $3.6 million or a loss per share of $0.28 compared to a net loss of $28.3 million or a loss per share of $2.24 in the fourth quarter of last year. Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025, which excludes the bad debt expense previously reviewed, was $2.4 million or $0.18 per share. This is compared to the prior year period adjusted net income of $0.8 million or $0.06 per share, which excludes the impact of the goodwill impairment charge and its associated tax impact and the transaction expenses incurred during that period. Adjusted EBITDA was $4.5 million for the fourth quarter compared to $5.4 million in the prior year. This performance capped off a solid year overall despite navigating a highly dynamic environment, resulting in a net sales growth of 2.2% reported net income of $6.4 million and adjusted EBITDA of $15.1 million. Please refer to our press release for more details on our full year performance and reconciliation of non-GAAP measures. Moving to the balance sheet. Net inventory was $66.2 million at the end of fourth quarter as compared to $59.1 million at the end of fourth quarter last year. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by approximately $4.8 million higher inventory carrying value due to tariffs. Turning to our outlook. As discussed, we have seen the momentum experienced in the fourth quarter continue into the start of fiscal 2026. In addition, our outlook assumes a reduced reciprocal tariff rate of 15% which we expect any benefit to be largely offset by the increase in supply chain costs driven by the rise in fuel and shipping costs. We are also not assuming any benefit with respect to potential tariff refunds. For the first quarter, we expect total net sales growth of approximately 8.5% to 10.5%, adjusted operating loss as a percentage of net sales of approximately negative 3.5% to negative 4.5% and adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of net sales to be approximately negative 1.5% to negative 2.5%, reflecting year-over-year expansion compared to negative 5.2% in the prior year period. For the full year fiscal 2026, we expect net sales growth to be approximately 3% to 6%, adjusted operating income as a percentage of net sales to be approximately 3.5% to 4% and for adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of net sales to be approximately 5% to 5.5%, compared to the 5% in the prior year. In summary, we are very pleased with our strong end of fiscal 2025 and the momentum we are driving to start fiscal 2026, underscoring our team's disciplined approach and our commitment to executing on our objectives. This concludes our remarks, and I'll now turn it over to the operator to open the call for questions.

Operator

The operator provided instructions. Your first question comes from Eric Beder with SCC Research.

Eric Beder Analyst — SCC Research

Congratulations on a great year. I want to talk a little bit about some of the changes you're doing in terms of the stores. I noticed continued emphasis on showing more color and a growing emphasis on some of the newer categories like drop shipping and suiting and handbags. What should we be seeing as we move through 2026 in terms of how the stores are going to tweak for these changes to maximize further growth?

Yes. I think we're continuing to experiment with some of our store setups, especially as we do some renovations. We remove some legacy cash wraps, which opens up the stores and allows us to better showcase the way Caroline and the team envisioned the way people are outfitting, mixing and matching and doing group sets with our product. In terms of the other categories you mentioned, drop ship is a tool we are able to use online to take advantage of our licensed partners' inventory. We started with shoes, with Caleres, and we'll add in handbags, suiting, and accessories in Q2. To your point about showcasing some of these categories in the stores, I've always felt that it was taught by our founders that it's important to have more texture in the store that can only be given by having additional categories beyond just apparel. We are strategically utilizing those categories like handbags, accessories, cold weather and some others to provide more interest when the consumer is shopping. If they become real revenue drivers, that's a bonus, and I think we have that potential, more so online because of the drop ship. But it also allows us to tell the story better, both in-store and with some of our social media and digital marketing. So we're really pleased with the way we've been able to expand categories and the partnership with Authentic Brands to drive that.

Eric Beder Analyst — SCC Research

Great. And when we look at tariffs, those were somewhat of a shock last year. How should we be thinking about this year and going forward in terms of the potential for both domestic and international stores? You mentioned Paris and London have done really well. How should we be thinking about the potential here in the U.S. now that conditions are somewhat more normalized than last year?

Yes. In terms of domestic stores, we're going to open some and close some. We are very enthusiastic about the performance we had in Q4 with our stores, and as we mentioned, that's continued in Q1. It's probably the best performance I've seen over the course of six months in our stores in my six years here on and off. I'm more bullish than ever on our ability to drive productivity in our stores, and that gives the team more confidence to look for new locations. I don't think you will see a huge increase in our store count; hopefully, incrementally, we'll add a few. In large part, we're in most of the markets we want to be in, and it's more about rationalizing some stores and driving more productivity through existing boxes. Internationally, Paris would probably be first on our wish list in terms of the next gateway. We've had great success with our Marylebone store in London—I visited about six weeks ago—and it's as good as stores we have in our fleet in representing the Vince brand among our peers. If we find something in Paris, it really needs to be a flagship store. We don't have much representation in Paris, so we want to put our best foot forward, which makes it a bit more difficult to find the right location, but it's for the right reasons. We'll continue to assess and update you as we have more information.

Eric Beder Analyst — SCC Research

And last question on wholesale. Nordstrom, you've expanded now to all Nordstrom stores, both men and women, and they are a significant part of your business. When you look at the whole wholesale piece, is it adding new partners or becoming deeper with the partners you have? How should we be thinking about how wholesale can continue to evolve?

Thanks, Eric. Wholesale is becoming increasingly important with the partners we have because we're in most of the partners appropriate for men's, whether department stores or specialty stores. There's more growth in Bloomingdale's given we've only been back with them a few years and recently gone men's all doors; we've seen strong results and have a great relationship with their team. We just did successful events with Bloomingdale's in L.A. and with Nordstrom's team in Dallas. We're cautiously optimistic that Saks Global, Neiman and Bergdorf are moving in the right direction after last year's challenges. We obviously took a hit in Q4, but with the new leadership at Saks and our longstanding relationships, we're hopeful we can get that business back on track. Currently, Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's are what's driving our wholesale business.

Operator

The operator provided instructions. Your next question comes from Michael Kupinski with Noble Capital.

Speaker 5

I offer my congratulations on a great quarter and a great year as well. There's been some reports of renewed traffic in malls and stores. Are you seeing that trend, or is that just headline news that isn't translating into what is actually out there?

I can't speak to the macro environment broadly, but our results are consistent with increased traffic. We've had a great six-month run with our store business, driven by traffic, conversion, and increased prices that have been well absorbed. We have stores in malls as well as lifestyle and street-front centers, and we've seen outsized performance in some locations. Some centers have expanded and reinvented themselves, bringing more traffic. For example, our lifestyle store in Chestnut Hill is twice the size it was years ago, which brings more traffic and benefits us. So many malls and centers are investing in themselves, adding tenants and expanding, which is positive for bringing qualified traffic we can convert.

Speaker 5

Great. Have you seen more pressure from competitors recently? Can you give us the lay of the land on the competition in your lane?

I think we're taking share in our lane. We respect the peer brands we sit with and many are navigating similar issues—some doing well, some struggling—but our peer group hasn't shifted much in the past few years. As I implied, in retail locations and centers, we often perform better when surrounded by our peers and some luxury players because it provides context and allows our product to stand out, especially with the strong product performance we're experiencing now.

Speaker 5

Where do you see the most operating leverage that you have untapped right now? What are some internal bottlenecks you might be actively working to remove?

Prior to my return, the team executed a transformation process and improved margin through IMU. That has been helpful in addressing input cost pressures, including tariffs. As those factors normalize, we should have opportunities to recapture gross margin accretion. As we grow beyond the roughly $300 million collar we've been in, we should start to get SG&A leverage and be able to reinvest in the business to sustain or catalyze growth. We're also actively looking at other ways to utilize our platform through partnerships. We believe we have several levers to pull and are hopeful macro issues subside. I'm proud of how we navigated the past 12 months and confident in our positioning for success.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I'll turn the call to Brendan for closing remarks.

Great. Thank you, everyone. We appreciate your continued interest in Vince, and we look forward to updating you on our Q1 results in June. Have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.