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Earnings call · FY2026 Q2

Outokumpu Oyj (OUT1V) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Johan Head of Investor Relations

Good afternoon and welcome to Autokumbu's second quarter results presentation. I'm Johan, responsible for investor relations. We will start with the presentation from our CEO, Kati Terhorst, and our CFO, Mark Simon-Schar. And after the presentation, you have the opportunity to ask questions over the lines. And with that, Kati, I hand over to you.

Thank you so much, Johan. So welcome also from my side. And we will first, with Mark Simon, cover the Q2 result. And then I will comment a little bit more in detail our very recent investment decision today. So if we start now with a result on Q2, profitability improved to 100 million euros from 65 million euros in Q1. And this improvement was mainly driven by the improvement in business area Europe. America's business area, America's continued its strong performance, and we also saw ferrochrome result further improve in the second quarter. Of course, in Europe, it's clearly that it's the regional measures in Europe, mainly CBAM, and then also the steel safeguard measures that have supported the market. While we can say that in the U.S. the market has been, and the demand on the market has been more robust, especially in industrial segments, and for ferrochrome, especially our low-emission ferrochrome from Europe, in this geopolitical situation, the demand has been at a good level. We are today talking about our evolve strategy, two important steps as milestones to proceed and progress with our strategy. One is the investment in high nickel alloys, and the second one is really the publication of our first patent applications, and I come back to that a little bit later. We usually always look at what do the imports look like. I think the main message here is that the imports in Europe have clearly stayed at the lower level. They were a bit higher in Q2, 17 percent compared to Q1, 15 percent. I think this is also a little bit being up front of the steel safeguards that came in force on the 1st of July. Americas, if we look at U.S. only, the import level has stayed very stable at 20 percent. And there was a bit of increase in whole Americas because of Mexico. Then if I would comment a little bit that did we see anything change in the underlying demand or the sentiment when we look at Q2 versus Q1, I would maybe highlight some of the positive things we've seen. So basically data centers both in Europe and Americas have driven some demand. And I think then addition to that, basically the heating and ventilation, air conditioning segment has done well. And then we see energy area being one. So those are the highlights we would have on consumer side, transportation side, automotive, both continents, the demand has been sluggish. On deliveries, I think it's really important to comment here now a little bit. Our deliveries in Europe in the quarter two, they were the highest in three years, which brings the group deliveries also to the highest in three years. But I also would like to highlight ferrochrome. So also in ferrochrome, we had a four-year high in the deliveries. You don't see maybe Americas moving that much. is maybe what we have to remember, that we have 250,000 tons of our coal trolling capacity in Mexico, which we cannot currently use really to the full benefit of Americas due to the 50% tariffs from Mexico to the US. But volumes played a big role in Q2. Then on sustainability, so I'm very happy to say that our safety promise further improved from Q1, so we arrived on the total recordable incident frequency rate and 1.4, which is kind of better than our target level 1.5. The whole half year was now 1.6. So this is a work that continues, but I would say that we are very much on a leading level here, but work continues. Again, we also had a very high recycled content percentage. And then if we look at external recognition, I think it's important to say that being recognized by both the financial times as one of the europe's climate leaders for the third time now in a row and also by time among the world's most sustainable companies it really matters because it provides independent validation that the sustainability leadership is real it's measurable and internationally recognized and these rankings assess not only the climate commitments but also demonstrate progress, transparency and business performance. So such recognition reinforces our position as the sustainability leader in stainless steel and really supports our strategy of creating competitive advantage through decarbonization and circularity. With this, I will hand over to Mark Simon to go more in detail in the result.

Thanks, Cathy. Good morning, good afternoon also from my side. In the second quarter, stronger profitability combined with continued capital discipline enabled us to further strengthen our financial position. This gives us a solid foundation as we keep executing our Evolve Growth strategy. In line with our guidance, group-adjusted EBITDA increased from 65 million euros in the first quarter to 200 million euros in quarter two. While the net of timing and hedging impact in the quarter was less favorable than we had expected, our underlying operating performance was actually even stronger, driven primarily by higher margins in business area Europe. And speaking of Europe, I am pleased to report that the business area has returned to positive EBITDA. Our operating cash flow remained solid at 85 million euros, allowing us to bring net debt down to 224 million, while preserving our strong liquidity position. With that financial overview, let me turn to the performance of our business areas, starting with the business areas Europe. The market environment in Europe was largely unchanged from the end of the first quarter. European producers continued to benefit from supportive regulatory measures, though end-use demand remained subdued. A meaningful recovery in demand will require a clear improvement in business confidence, which continues to be weighed down by geopolitical uncertainty, particularly around the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. That said, volumes in business area Europe increased by 5% in the second quarter. Beyond the volume growth, profitability in business area Europe was further supported by higher realized prices and lower fixed costs of sales in the second quarter, following the backlog-related pressure we felt in Q1 from the supply chain planning solution challenges we had. With that, let's move on to Business Area Americas. Business Area Americas continued to deliver a strong financial performance, underpinned by growth in some segments, showing improved demand, such as data centers and related investments into infrastructure, energy, as well as heating, ventilation and air conditioning. The Mexican market also continued to show early signs of recovery, with the manufacturing PMI moving above 50 in June for the first time in a year and its strongest reading since March 2024. In addition to the 4% higher volumes, profitability in Americas benefited from higher selling prices, driven by an increase in the alloy surcharge, supported by an increase in commodity prices. These positive factors were partly offset by higher costs, mainly related to freight and non-conforming material. Now with that, let's move on to business area ferrochrome. Business era Ferrochrome was able to increase its adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter versus the first quarter, supported by the solid demand for our low-emission European offering as well as higher selling prices. Overall, the demand remains healthy across all regions, with North America continuing to be the strongest market. On the supply side, production containments in South Africa remained in place for most of the quarter. Although electricity support measures have initiated production ramp-up, export volumes remained historically low, so the impact on the market prices during the quarter remained limited. We also continued with our expansion into higher margin ferrochrome products and compared with the charge chrome market, the high carbon and high chromium ferrochrome as well as other special product segments are expected to be less exposed to the anticipated increase in South African production. Now, combined with CBAM, we do see that this is reinforcing the strategic value of our portfolio expansion. Now, with that, let me close with a few remarks on cash flow and leverage. Supported by the improvement in profitability, our operating cash flow remained solid in the second quarter. Together with some release in working capital and capital expenditures of 34 million euros, our free cash flow improved to 51 million euros compared to 34 in the first quarter. The working capital release came despite higher business activity and rising commodity prices during the quarter, once again demonstrating our continued focus on capital discipline. The stronger free cash flow enabled us to further reduce net debt to 224 million euros, as mentioned earlier, despite of the first dividend installment we paid in April this year. And finally, with both profitability up, net debt down, our leverage ratio declined from 1.3 to 1.1 in line with our financial policy. And with that, back to you, Kati.

Thank you, Mark Simon. I think then we come to actually our outlook and guidance. So let's take that next. So for the outlook, we say that the group stainless steel delivers in the third quarter. I expect it to decrease by 0 to 10 percent compared to the second quarter. And this is due to the seasonality in business area Europe. And based on our current order book, the net impact of realized prices and raw material cost is expected to be positive. And with the current raw material prices, some raw material related inventory and metal derivative gains are forecast to be forecasted for the third quarter. So therefore, our guidance is that the EPTA in the third quarter of 2026 is expected to be at the similar level compared to the second quarter of 2026. And then we can move to some more exciting topics here. So I'm personally very excited to announce that we are now starting the investment program into high nickel alloys. And it's important to understand that with this investment program being executed, we will really become one of the key global players in high nickel alloys for flat products. And during the past year, we have run several trials at our harvester plant in Sweden to test the capabilities at our melt shop, hot rolling and cold rolling assets. And we have, for instance, been able to roll alloy 625 into a width of 1800 millimeters, which nobody else is currently able to do in the market. So we will be bringing actually a differentiated value proposition to our customers. Then based on this trial experience and to accelerate the time to market, we have now decided to do the investment in two phases. So in the first phase, we will actually invest in the electroslack remelting at the current melt shop. And we will also invest a bit in the process optimization. and we will complete the detailed engineering study for phase two to confirm the total capex, which we still estimate to be about 150 million. And the estimate and the capex for the first part of this investment in the current melt shop is estimated to be about 30 million. And once the first phase is then, it's expected to be operational in Q1, 2028. The second phase then is about the new melt shop. So that's about a vertical caster. It's about vacuum induction degassing, VDI, and potentially a second ESR. And this investment is planned to be operational in the end of 2029. Then moving a bit to the right side to talk about the property technology development in the U.S. So building of the pilot plant is proceeding on schedule. and our first five patent applications covering the key process elements have now been published, which marks an important milestone in the technology development. It's also important to mention that this technology has wider application possibilities for metals. So we are really exploring here a number of options for future growth based on the technology development. So with that, I come to some of the key messages from today. So our EBITDA improved to 100 million euros, supported by market fundamentals across all the business areas. And our adjusted EBITDA in Q3 then is expected to be in the same level, despite the seasonality that we have in Europe. Financial position remains strong and the net has decreased, and we are making really a progress in our Evolve growth strategy. With that, I will open for the Q&A.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key 6 on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

Yes, I thank you for the to the point presentation. That's really appreciated. I have two questions. The first one is on the metal spread guidance that is positive in 2Q3. Could you give us some indication of how it's going to differ region by region? I guess we should expect a stable development in the U.S. and improvement in Europe. I'll start there.

Absolutely. On the net of timing and hedging, what we say is that we expect some gains in this area. And I would quantify this as a higher single-digit number compared to the 11 million. And I think in terms of business areas, why we don't give guidance over here, Certainly, America's business is still on base plus alloy surcharge, and we see a bit of lower nickel price environment here in the U.S., so that's impacting then on the U.S. side, and mostly then of the other result is being related to business area Europe.

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

Okay. Just a quick follow-up on America, because given you have base plus surcharge, if surcharge is going down, that should impact your spreads. Right. And the second question is also a follow-up. When I look at slide 22, which is the bridge Q1 to Q2 within Europe, the red column that is pricing mixed raw material costs. If I understand correctly the guidance, this should turn into a big green column for Q3, right?

Well, yes, I think we guided for, on the one hand side, lower volumes and those being offset by then the net impact of realized prices and raw material costs, and you're referring to this item. So, yes, this is a positive element and being offset by the volumes and therefore we guide on a similar level. and what we're referring to mostly is in relation to business area Europe.

Yeah, and I guess it's correct to mention as well that we could have had better mix in Q2. So we do expect a mix in Europe, especially to improve in Q3.

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

Thank you. And last question, just does this guidance of better spread, the stainless metal spreads include the recent drop in stainless scrap prices or is that going to be more of an impact for you Q4 result?

I think this is more going out further into the later part of this year.

Bastian Sinigowicz Analyst — Deutsche Bank

All right.

Thank you. Welcome.

Operator

The next question comes from Bastian Sinigowicz from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Bastian Sinigowicz Analyst — Deutsche Bank

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. My first one is just a quick follow-up on the Americas and the moving parts there into the next quarter. I guess the impact here from the metal and hatching gain in the second quarter was only quite meaningful. I guess usually in the U.S. you still see probably further positive tailwind from seasonality in the, I guess, in the third quarter.

So just want to check whether you would expect an all-in performance run rate, which remains pretty similar also here to the second quarter or will this be in the mix a slightly larger deviation here between europe and america that's my first question yeah i think as i as i mentioned earlier that we have had expected a higher higher impact a positive impact from that of timing and hedging in the in the in the first quarter so a reason why that has not been materialized is basically the increase in commodity prices, which we have seen in the second quarter, and then together with a different melting pattern, which we delivered to the market, a younger melting pattern, which we delivered to the market with higher raw material costs. That was the reason here. Fortunately, we could offset this and stay fully within our guidance, which we gave for the second quarter. Now, as this is a shift from the second to the third quarter on the bigger European side, on the other side, if we think about Americas, then here, what I also mentioned earlier before is that, given current raw material prices, they're expected to be some, or commodity prices, somewhat lower than in the second quarter. And you know that Americas is on an alloy surcharge basis. So that is having a certain impact here. But from the volume side, we should further consider a robust market in the Americas for the third quarter.

Bastian Sinigowicz Analyst — Deutsche Bank

Okay, understood. And then maybe zooming in quickly on the Ferrochrome business, which did very well. You indicated here the potential effect from, I guess, the electricity regulation in South Africa. Is this something you see impacting the market already, i.e. what are the current pricing dynamics you're perceiving? Is pricing pretty stable? Is it coming under pressure already?

Well, as I mentioned in my part of the presentation on the Ferrochrome site, that we haven't seen any impact on the pricing as well as driven by the fact that we haven't seen export volumes to pick up here. I think we mentioned that ramp-up in operations production has started. We are not in a position and cannot guide on prices going forward and therefore would rather leave it here with the important notion that we're going to develop our product portfolio into higher margin business and which should give us then an opportunity to decouple to a certain degree from the pure charge chrome market.

Bastian Sinigowicz Analyst — Deutsche Bank

Okay, understood. And then last one, a quick question also on, I guess, your maintenance schedule. Usually there are always some bigger maintenance breaks in either Serachrome or the European operations. There isn't any in the third quarter. Is there anything we should have on the radar with regards to this for the fourth quarter? I guess it would be quite helpful to have a bit of steel on that just ahead of time to avoid any negative surprises.

Well, indeed, we do have our annual planned maintenance shutdown both in Europe and in the Americas towards the end of Q3 and beginning of Q4 over here. We do some small increase in maintenance costs in the third quarter, but I don't see any significant deviation from that third quarter level going into the fourth quarter.

And Ferrochrome, actually, the biggest maintenance shutdown for SAF 2, actually took place already in Q2. So that's done.

Bastian Sinigowicz Analyst — Deutsche Bank

Is there any cost impact still to come, though, from these in the fourth quarter? Any major items, at least, even if it's just a ballpark at this point?

Not major items. There is a small increase in here, as I mentioned, but important is really to look at our guidance, what we have been saying that most important to understand the volume impact, then also the net impact from the realized prices and the raw material costs. And we do guide for similar. That, I think, is the most important key part. And then you have different items, different dynamics I mentioned on the maintenance break. Nothing major, but in order to understand the guidance for the second quarter, I think we gave the elements in our guidance. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Joni Sandvall from Nordia. Please go ahead.

Joni Sandvall Analyst — Nordia

Yeah, thanks for the presentation, Itzioni from Nordia. Maybe starting up with the variable cost outlook, I think you mentioned the freight costs have increased, but could you give any indication of H2 outlook regarding freight costs and also energy?

Yes. Well, on the freight costs, transportation costs, fuel costs, and related to the Middle East, we have seen an increase in our variable costs in the second quarter, Given of what we see right now and the situation, which can evolve, as we know, and change every minute, we do not expect a significant deviation from what we have seen in the second quarter.

Joni Sandvall Analyst — Nordia

Okay, that's clear. Then maybe on the ferrocrone follow-up, does this development of your portfolio require some investments? And if so, when are you expecting to be ready with this?

Well, actually, this part of the portfolio development doesn't require such a big investment. We also use the ferrochrome converter that we already have at the plant. Then, of course, when we want to use the technology we are developing to further go to 90% chromium metal, then we talk about an investment. But we are not in that stage yet that we can discuss that.

Joni Sandvall Analyst — Nordia

Okay, that's clear. And then lastly on the pilot plant, startup and timetable here. When should we expect more information around the patents and maybe the startup timetable for the pilot factory?

Well, look, we today said that our first five patents are public. So the patent applications are public. So you can see what the base technology is and what is the process technology we have made the applications for. We have other patents in this journey that will be public then later. And the timeline is today what we have said from the beginning, that the furnaces at the pilot plan should be operational in the first half of next year, meaning that by summer 27, we can then confirm that the technology would be scalable. So we are on schedule in budget and on time schedule with the pilot plan.

Joni Sandvall Analyst — Nordia

Okay, thank you. That's all for me.

Thank you.

Operator

There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments. The next question comes from Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Did you, Christian, still have a question?

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

Yes, sorry. I was on mute. Thank you for taking the follow-up. Just on Avesta, the phase two, why there's a bit of a delay on the decision for this, And now, given you have more visibility on your capex, should we expect the capex to decline quite a bit next year? And second question on working capital. I mean, it's pretty unusual to have Q1, Q2 release. It's been pretty strong. How would you think about H2 or the full year for working capital? That would be helpful.

So, if I take Avesta and CapEx, and Mark Simon can comment then on the working capital. So, remind me still, the Avesta question was exactly about...

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

Yeah, I think initially you were thinking of taking the mail shop earlier, and now it's in a year.

Yeah, look, we have learned a lot. Let's put it like that. So we have done a lot of trials in Arvesta, both using basically doing our own melting and running it through, but also getting slaps in on alloys 600, 625, 825, which we already produce ourselves, and tested the downstream assets as well. But we have also learned that we actually can use the current melt shop for these three alloys. And the only thing we would need to add there is an ESR which increases the purity of the metal, what you need for this kind of metals for quite a few customers. So in that sense, we actually, when we first invest in a current melt shop, we are not delaying the whole project, but we are coming faster to the market with these three alloys. And we probably are a year and a half faster than we would have been otherwise. So through the learning we had in Arvesta, we have found capabilities in a current melt shop that we were not sure about before. And therefore, this investment case has improved with a phased approach. And we still think the total investment is about 150 million. But to be exactly sure of the second phase investment, we still want to complete our detailed engineering study. And that is exactly what we are doing. And then on the capex, we have said on maintenance capex that it's about 100 million a year. That's where we are about this year as well. We have room for, of course, strategic investments. We will start this Avesta investment cycle now. So some small capex probably spent this year, continues the next year. But we have also other strategic initiatives on the table. So I think more in the end of the year, beginning of next year is the right moment. and then to comment when eventual other decisions come, what does the strategic capex start looking like going forward?

And then maybe I can then answer your question, Tristan, on working capital. So for the third quarter, and based on or due to the planned maintenance, which we have towards the end of the quarter, beginning of quarter four, We do see a certain inventory build up here, so we expect working capital to go up here with current market prices here as well. We also have some other one-off payments in the third quarter, such as related to our restructuring programs, for which we provided the provisions already last year, beginning of this year. Having said that, as a result thereof, we expect our net debt to increase in the third quarter. And then you mentioned maybe also a bit outlook into Q4. I think now if I look at the market and the dynamics, we need to see how the market is coming back from basically the vacation summer period. our customers being back and how then the market develops and picks up here. So it's a bit too premature yet to give a reliable outlook over here.

Tristan Gresser Analyst — BNP Paribas

All right. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Maxime Kogi from AutoBHF. Please go ahead.

Maxime Kogi Analyst — AutoBHF

Good afternoon. I have a few questions on the nickel alloy project. It's quite an exciting one. actually the market this is rather two sided between on the one hand um oil and gas and chemical processing which are relatively weak and on the other hand um aerospace uh or electronics um that are that are friendly booming so do you have a view already of the of the markets you would like to to to address and plus related to that uh do you think you can really pretend to become a relevant US player, given that the footprint will be in Europe. Your peers have actually had to make some acquisitions there in the US to really position themselves as the US players. And if you want the homologation timeline to be validated by clients, it would be helpful as well.

Maybe starting on the segment, I think you mentioned some of the important ones. So even maybe the oil production is not increasing in barrels, we see increase in exploration. And the oil exploration is going deeper, more difficult places. It requires more pressure resistance and all that. So we see that market. Of course, Middle East now is a bit different. But for instance, in Latin America, proceeding quite well, if you look at the plans, power generation is one area, electronics is one area, specialty chemicals is one area, for sure. And these are global businesses. When it then comes to the U.S., well, I think our biggest volumes, what we plan here to have, are probably not for U.S., they're probably more for Europe and Asia. but they are also partly for US and for Latin America and maybe one thing to remember that when steel products now have a 50% tariff being exported from Europe to US high nickel alloys or nickel alloys have 15% tariff the normal 15% tariff so it is product that travels Interesting and the second one, this is on commodity prices

Maxime Kogi Analyst — AutoBHF

so nickel is now taking a bit of a hit but molybdenum remains very strong and i was wondering whether that was more of a challenge or an opportunity for you and maybe if you could shed light on the on the development of the of the green and resources project which will allow you in the end to to to to have your own capacity there well uh first on the on the The molybdenum price itself, yes, you're absolutely right.

I think the market is, since a couple of years, in a structural deficit here. We have seen molybdenum prices going up, which then also puts a certain pressure on the margin of these products here. That's so much from the commodity pricing side. But what was the second part of your question? I didn't get it fully. i think it's yeah it's on the greenland resources project um any any any color you could you could give on on the development on the timeline and when it could be operational yes i think um um from from what we understand also in the discussions here with with our partner um i think the project is well on its way and the exact date and time of when going operationally, that is still something which needs to be explored but we are very positive and looking forward for the mining project to become online yet I'm not in a position to give any further details unfortunately, but I'm pretty sure that soon we will be in a position here during the second half of the year and then give also a bit more color on it.

Maxime Kogi Analyst — AutoBHF

Okay, thank you.

Operator

There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.

If there are no more questions, then I thank you all very much for your participation and good questions and see you next time then when we talk about the Q3. Thank you.

Thank you.

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