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Earnings call · FY2027 Q2

QUADIENT S.A. (QDT) Q2 2027 Earnings Call Transcript

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Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Good evening, everyone. Welcome to Quadiant's first half 2026 results presentation. I'm Laura Paxton, Quadiant's Head of Investor Relations. Today's presentation will be hosted by Geoffrey Godet, our CEO, and Laurent Dupassage, our CFO. The agenda for today's call is on slide three. As usual, there will be an opportunity to ask questions at the end of the presentation. You can either submit your questions in writing through the web or ask questions live by dialing in to the conference call. Thank you very much. And with that, over to you, Joffrey.

Thank you, Laura. Good evening, everyone. Let me remind you to get started of the strategic direction that we set at the beginning of the financial year, since everything else follows on from it. The pivot to digital is not new for Quadiant, as you know. We've been preparing it for years. Demand for digital automated business and financial communication keeps building up. Artificial intelligence is accelerating it. The digitalization of financial workflows is also accelerating. And so are the invoicing mandates coming across Europe. And we set a clear objective. Digital becomes the largest and most profitable solution by 2030. So this is where the growth is. This is where our capital and our focus belong. We reinforced the Executive Committee with four digital business leaders at the beginning of the year, and I personally took over direct leadership of the digital business. Additionally, this year, on the 20th of July, we announced that we were conducting a strategic review of our Locust business. This review, I'm happy to report that it is now complete. And I will take you through the outcome on the next slide. But first of all, let's look at what the Locker team has built. Moving back to 2018, Lockers was small, we would say, around 2,000 Lockers and around 6 million in revenue. Then, quickly after that, as we set our strategy, we acquired Percel Pending, a U.S.-based company in 2019. And then from there, progressively, we expanded across the U.S., Canada, Japan, the U.K., and France. We also made another acquisition called Passer Concierge, another U.S.-based company, to consider the U.S. market in 2024. And in 2025, as a summary, the business delivered €114 million of revenue. Just as a quick reminder, this represented a 22.4% growth versus 2024 on a reported basis and represented also 11% of quadrant revenue. The EBITDA margin was 5% last year, which was up 4.4 points after already passing the breakeven point in 2024. So, if I was to summarize, in seven years, we multiply 19 times the revenue and around 14 times the install base of location of lockers worldwide. We could say that we have today a mature asset, profitable, and at scale, the number one position in the U.S. and in Japan, and a U.K. network that scale actually very fast in the last three years. We could say that this business has delivered on its promise. Just take the opportunity to thank, obviously, all our partners and our customers, and most importantly, the Quadrant Logo team that built up this business for us. and this is the context in which we ran the strategic review this summer so now the time is right to consider with its next four lockers so let's look at the outcome going to slide six in conclusion i think the review produced two major outcomes and you can see them on the left the first following a competitive process we have signed an agreement to sell our uk operation, an open network, to a company called the IDS for 65 million euros. The second outcome is that we also have launched the sell process for the rest of our locker business. As a result, the locker solution is now presented in accordance with the accounting rule called IFRS 5 in this presentation and in our first half financial statement. Consequently, 2025 figures have been restated on the same basis. Laurent will take you through all those changes and their impacts. So let's start with the sale of the UK Open Network to IDF, which, as a reminder, is the owner of Royal Mail and also, importantly, is an affiliate of a company called Visa Equity Investment, which is a shareholder of Quedient. So let me come back to the price. The price is €65 million. I would highlight a few key points. The UK was the least mature of our 3K geographies, with an expected 2026 revenue a little bit more than €10 million, and it was doubling. We had a fast growth, doubling in size versus 25, as we were in the ramp-up period of getting more and more usage. And given this early stage of development, because our locker investments are usually on a 10-year cycle, so it's the first three years, it was naturally the most capital-consuming of our open network basis. Getting that price on that stage, that maturity of the development, provided us with a very strong return. The agreement, I want to stress this, came out of a competitive process that was run, obviously, with the advisors that we mentioned to you at the beginning of July. We had a chance to consider multiple offers that we have received, and naturally, after reviewing them, the board of Quadion concluded that this offer delivered the best value for the UK network and was in our corporate interest and its stakeholders, all our shareholders, and therefore approved the transaction unanimously yesterday. We expect this transaction, after the signing yesterday, to close before the end of 2026, hopefully even sooner. So, let's move to the next point that I want to talk to you about, about the consequence on leverage for Quadiant. We expect the proceeds to take our leverage ratio target, which is crude leasing, from 1.5 times, which was our previous guidance, to 1.2 times. Let me be precise on this one. These improvements come from the UK transaction alone. It assumes nothing about the rest of the process and nothing about the capex, which is my next point. So if I step back a little bit on our capital expenditure at the coordinate level, and to be clear, we focus on the locker business as a whole, even though the UK represents a large portion of the capex of the lockers, it more or less now will remove around 120 million euros of lockers capex over the next five years. 120 million euros that are no longer required, and it's a capital that we can now redirect to new varieties and focus. My next point is that we expect, obviously, additional proceeds from the sale of the rest of the locker business, And this is in addition to the proceeds from the UK. This includes, obviously, for the rest of the locker, a Japanese base, and a North American operation to cover what we have. These are our largest and much more profitable locker networks. They hold a leading position, the number one position in their respective markets. We are currently engaging with potential buyers, and obviously, like we're doing right now in the UK, we will update the market in due course as we make progress. With all of this together, and we have what we could say now, a strategic and financial flexibility that we simply did not have six months ago. So let me now hand it over to Laurent for the first half financials. Thank you, Geoffrey.

Good evening. And before going into the numbers, a word on presentation. Just following the strategic review, as mentioned by Geoffrey, the lockers business is reported in accordance to IFRS 5 in our half-year financial statement. And the European private locker network, which we are retaining, as they are largely managed for male employees, has been reclassified within the male segment. All 2025 comparatives shown today have been restated on the same basis, except if explicitly mentioned, so that the figures you see are fully comparable. This classification strongly benefits to our EBITDA and EBIT at group level, as locuers are dilutive to the quotient margin. It brings about 130 basis points on EBITDA and about 230 basis points on current EBIT margin. On the revenue side, as you can see on the slide, the translation post-IFIS-5 is very straightforward. Digital scope remains unchanged, and mainly sees about $3 million of revenue for the private local network being added into H1 2026. On that basis, Quadrant delivered €448 million of revenue in the first half of 2026, representing a 2% organic decline compared to the same period last year. Digital confirmed its gross momentum up 6.7% organically at €146 million, while Mail was down 5.7% at €302 million. euros. From a geographic perspective, again, North America, our largest region, was essentially flat at 254 million euros. Many European countries were down by 4.4% at 165 million euros, with, as usual, we'll see that further later, a stronger male underlying decline in this geography. International is down by 4.9% at 29 million, mostly driven by male. Turning now to profitability, while I just mentioned total EBDA margin is improved post-IFRS 5 due to the dilutive EBDA from lockers, EBDA by a digital and mail level are impacted by some lockers, internet cost, and these energies reallocated to both solutions and impacting EBDA margin by about 0.6 points, on top of which you have a small dilutive private network impact on the mail side for 0.5 points. Group EBDA's margin stands at 21.5 percent. It stands 0.8 points compared to last year, mostly due to the erosion on mail side and unfavorable mix effect. Digital margin was stable at 14.5% despite the implementation costs linked to the French invoice in GoLive and, of course, the Forex. Current EBIT for the payers came in at 57 million euros, a 5.9% organic decline due to May. Let's now turn to the revenue bridge on slide 9. Starting on the left, with 465 million euros restated revenue for last year, H1, this bridge shows the continued rebalancing of our portfolio. Digital contributed €9 million of additional revenue, partially offsetting the €19 million of organic decline in mail. The scope effect added €2 million from the acquisitions of both Serenzia in June last year and CDP communication in December 25. On the right-hand side, currency had a €10 million negative impact, and it's all coming from Q1, meaning on Q2, no currency impact on the bridge. All-in reported revenue decline at 3.7% and by 2% on an organic basis. Moving now to the current EBIT bridge on slide 10. From the 64 million euro we stated current EBIT last year, digital EBITDA growth of 3 million, partly offset the 6 million decline in male EBITDA, and you have an additional 1 million euro of organic increase in depreciation and amortization, notably tied to digital R&D. currency accounted for 3 million euros of negative impact on the current EBIT while the scope effect was relatively neutral at the EBITDA level. As a result, current EBIT for the first half stands at 57 million euros and 5.9 percent on an organic basis. Let's now move into the details of the performance-backed solution and starting with digital. On slide 12, so before reviewing specifically happier if we put our digital performance into a longer-term perspective and know that these figures are prior to the application of s5 due to the locals that are due to the local business for the sake of the consistency of these figures across the long time period on the bottom left chart our annual recurring revenue has grown from 109 million euro in 2019 to 264 million at the end of July 26, a compound annual growth rate of about 15% per annum, with a remarkably regular improvement over the period. The chart on the bottom right now shows the same story on quarterly revenue, with subscription-related revenue growing at 16% compound annual growth rate since 2020, a logical similar trend compared to the AR, and now represents 87% of digital revenue at the end of H1 2026. And at the top left side, you can see the profitability for Victoria with EBDA rising from around $20 million over a 12-month period of the chart, and to more than $50 million if you take both H2 last year and H1 this year, so the past 12 months.

Over to you, Narej Jotre, on slide 13. Thank you, Laurent. I mentioned at the beginning of the call that our focus is on our digital solution. I think we could say that we have built a comprehensive and differentiated B2B platform centered around business and financial communication. We bring it all together in one connected experience, customer communication management, e-invoicing, account payable, accounts receivable, payment, and cash visibility. Once a customer is on the platform, every module, every product offers an opportunity for upsell, making our solutions thicker for the customer. Compliance, whether regulatory or financial, is the entry point. It's not the destination. And every change in regulations offers new opportunities for us. The invoicing mandate in Europe is a case in point. This is a clear regulatory catalyst that offers significant growth opportunities for a digital solution. Take the example of France. It just went live with its invoicing mandate on September the 1st. Germany follows in 2027, the UK in 2029, and the broader European framework in 2030. Every one and each one of those deadlines extends our addressable base, market by market, over several years. This is not a single event in one country. It's a sequence for which we have been preparing for and which we reinforce the synergies between our mail and digital activities. Our mail solution brings a large install base of business customers who will have to digitalize their financial processes. What goes through a franking machine and folders and insurers are mainly invoices, which we'll have to find the delivery electronically in the future. We're therefore ideally positioned to support our mail customers and to their digital transformation. Moving on to the next slide, let me give you the facts on e-invoicing in France, where the go-live happened on September 1st, so barely three weeks ago. Since that day, every business must be able to receive electronic invoices. Large and mid-sized companies must issue them. The issuance obligation extends to SME in September 27, which is a year from now. End of 28 will be the first full year of the Y-Lin Scope. Now, where do we stand? As of September 21st, just a few days ago, more than 950,000 entities were registered with Serendia by Quadrants. 950,000, so we're a little bit short of a million entities. That also includes entities registered with our partners. As a reminder, we go to market directly and through white label. For a business we acquired 15 months ago, this is a strong commercial success, as we currently are one of the largest platforms in terms of registered entities. Now, there's two different categorizations. For example, SIREN or on SIRET, numbers of companies or entities, slightly less than 50% of the companies and entities in France have registered with a new investing platform to date. For the ones that have registered with the companies or entities, We can estimate that we currently have between 13% to 19% market share, a market share that is now much bigger than we have ever anticipated. Contracted annual invoices now stand around $350 million. This is to be compared to a total nationwide number of invoices that we estimate from the French government between 2 to 2.5 billion of B2B invoices exchanged annually. We have a commercial momentum that is very strong. The invoicing booking in France grew 11-fold year-on-year in the second quarter. Let me just repeat this. The invoicing booking in France grew 11-fold. This includes a multi-million-euro white-label agreement. Now, let's go on actual volumes. I want to be measured. We process, in the last few weeks, in the last three weeks, only 700,000 invoices. We expect the ramp-up to remain slow, and probably slow until the end of the year, as there are only a few platforms fully operational in France, limiting the digital exchange of invoices, right? Somebody registered with us. They'd like to send an invoice to a company that is not yet registered, but the exchange cannot happen digitally still, right? So we need the entire market to be able to come together. So there will be an exponential acceleration progressively, but we're still in a slow ramp-up phase. Market is in just these first few weeks. Many receiving platforms are still coming online. A lot of the different platforms that have obtained their registration are not live yet, and they will likely come in the next few months. Adoption will take time. So what matters at this stage is the following. We are certified, we are aligned, we're fully operational, and I would add that we are part of a limited number of fully functioning platforms. We are operating without any incident, and we have secured an already significant number of customers, so the volume will continue to follow. On monetization, the model is a subscription structured by deal type plus the monetization of the usage, numbers of transactions of invoices. so if i focus on our direct go-to-market where we sell directly to companies we offer a subscription fee plus an invoice volume commitment if i now focus on our white label customers we offer them a subscription covering a committed volume that will be guaranteed revenue for us and in both case both cases sorry invoices above the commitment will be built built per invoice Now, e-invoicing is way more than just processing invoices. For us, it's a fantastic upsell opportunity within our digital platform. So let me explain to you why by turning to the next slide. The e-invoicing mandate brings customers to us in France, but also in other European countries as we build a proven track record of delivery and reliability. The opportunities around this initial e-invoicing service and what drives customers' retention in the long term and what helps grow our relationship with them. On our digital platform, e-invoicing is embedded with account payable automation. The customer gets approval and purchase order matching. He's got an ERP-integrated workflows. He's got payment control and compliance with e-reporting. They move from being just compliant to actually improve how they work. And the benefits are tangibles. Our published figure shows five times average return on investment on those solutions. Invoice processing time, cut by half. Approvals 56% faster. From there, we connect account payable with account receivable. And that gives a real-time view for a CFO of both sides of the cash cycle. In June, if you remember, we launched our AI-powered cash dashboard, which should put now better forecasting and better working capital decisions for those modern CFOs. So each new module depends the relationship, and each one of them increases the value of the platform, which in turn, for us, into more upsell. Looking ahead, and to give you a sense of the proportion for the opportunity from the invoicing, we're expecting revenue from the invoicing to increase at a very fast pace from now to 2030. In terms of upsell into the financial automation, we expect the invoicing and financial automation solution combined to represent closer than half of our European digital revenue by 2030. Another key point that I'd like to stress with you is our solutions are recognized, obviously, externally. and such across our customer journey. So if I take a few examples, during the period, Quadiant was named a leader by QKS Group in the Spark metrics for account-payable automation for the third year running. In the same Spark metrics for account-receiver application, and this one, this time for the fifth time running, in both cases, specific recognition for AI-driven capabilities. Moving to the next slide, I do not want us to lose sight of customer communication management. It remains the foundation of our digital business. And this ties together the financial automation and e-invoicing to the rest of Quadrant's offering. Our performance remains very solid for our CCM business, especially in the U.S., where we have signed several large deals in H1. So let me give you a few examples. We had a long-standing U.S. financial services customer that signed a multi-year agreement to expand from a point solution to a full CCM platform. This is a multimillion-dollar commitment. I'll give you another example. A major healthcare customer expanded volumes by 75% from 4 billion to 7 billion pages, and they consolidated onto Quadiant, displacing competing solution again. Now, both of these are expansion within our existing enterprise or larger enterprise customer base, right? In both cases, we're replacing somebody else. So we took, it was a completed win. So for me, that's still the clearest evidence that this platform delivers at enterprise scale. So why do customers choose us? I'll give you five top main reasons. Unified platform, flexible deployment, governance, compliance, and enterprise at scale. Similarly to the financial automation product, Koye was also named a leader by the QKS Group in the Spark Metrics for Customer Communication Management for the sixth year in a row. So we sit at the top right of the leader band on both customer impact and technology excellence. With that said, Laurent will now take you through the digital numbers. Thank you, Geoffrey.

The digital revenue reached 146 million euros in the first half of 2016. It's up 6.7% organically. Another recurring revenue increased further to 264 million euros, representing an analyzed organic growth of 12.9% compared to the end of January 26. It was driven by the momentum of bookings. It's up 20% in Q2 versus last year, related to French invoicing, and by a solid performance in North America in CCM. It includes around 5 million euros of contractually committed components related to invoicing. It also absorbs 1 million euro of negative currency effect compared to January 26. Subscription-related revenue continued to show a sustained growth. Non-recurring revenue improved markedly in Q2 compared to Q1, thanks to a more moderate decline in professional services revenue. On the right-hand side, EBITDA reached 21 million euro, up to 17% year-on-year on an organic basis, with an EBITDA margin stable at 14.5%. It's a solid outcome given the increase in implementation costs tied to the French invoice in GoLive, and we expect margin progression over the full year. On an organic basis, margin has increased by 130 basis points. Now moving to mail on slide 18. The structural trend in mail is well understood, and it has not changed. But what I want to show you here is different. Mail is not simply a declining business that we manage for cash. It is an asset that is actively supporting the digital transition. In Europe, a cross-set of digital financial automation solutions to mail customers grew fourfold ahead of the French mandate. So the mail base is doing exactly what we said we would do. It gives foreign-privileged access to a business as they digitalize their financial processes. At the same time, we keep investing where customers ask us to. We launched the IX9, a premier mailing system in France, which extends our leadership at the high end of the market. We secure the major U.S. public sector deployment for certified mail. And our DS67iQ for the instructor is now rolling out globally. We also continue to create intelligent devices by adding complementary software to our mailing solution globally. To date, we have rolled out our intelligent solutions to almost 80,000 customers globally, reinforcing the value of our mailing hardware. We continue to add capabilities to this solution with smart e-certify, ability to print and manage all certified and tracked mail, and digital stamps coming in November this year in the U.S. The customer relationship remained strong. Satisfaction was about 96% globally and 98% in North America, our largest market. Quedient was also named the leader in the IDC market scape for worldwide mailroom solutions and services in its 2026 vendor assessment. Let's now move to the number for mail on slide A, 19. Mailroom news stood at €302 million in the first half. is down 5.7 percent organically the two factors explain this performance first it's a slower subscription related revenue reflecting the gradual contraction of the install base after the lower placement of recent periods and second software hardware volume in europe partly upset by the resilience in north america q2 was then 6.4 percent of weaker sequence performance which mainly reflects the expiry of at the end of q1 of a service contract in uk Excluding this specific impact, the underlying trend was stable over the two quarters. On the right-hand side, mail EBDA came in at 75 million euros. It's down 6.6% year-on-year on an organic basis, with an EBDA margin of 24.9%, done only by 0.6 points despite the top-line performance. This resilience reflects our continued cost discipline, U.S. tariffs reimbursement, as well as the commercial productivity gains achieved with digital in connection with the ramp-up ahead of the invoicing mandate in France. Moving now to Quadrient Financials. So first, let's review on slide 21, the P&L. And as you can see in this slide, the 25 comparatives are shown both as published and restated for the application of the FIS-5 to the local business. Starting from current EBIT of 57 million euros, optimization expenses and operating and other operating income amounted to 7 million euros, essentially to restructuring in mail. This brings the bid to 50 million euros. Net financial expenses stand at 23 million euros, slightly above last year. Income before tax is therefore 27 million euros, with an income tax charge of 7 million euros. This charge benefits from the release of 5 million euros tax provision. Net income from continuing operations comes out at 21 million euro and net income from this continued operation is only getting 11 million euro and that reflects the measurement of the local asset at fair market value less cost to sell in europe outside of the uk plus the loss of the business over h1 all in net income for the pay extended 10 million euro of which 10 million euro attributable to shareholders moving now to slide 22 and the cash flow we are up to a very strong pre-cash flow standing at 34 million euro for the first half its significant improvement compared to the negative 4 million we had last year at the same date. Starting from EBITDA at 96 million euros, other items represent a 10 million euro outflow, bringing cash flow before net cost of debt and tax to 86 million euros. The change in working capital required is a 25 million outflow. It's a normalized level compared to H125, reflecting our business model and building simplicity. Last year, if you remember, this working capital was particularly affected by the additional inventory you had built at the end of January 25 and that was paid over the first half of 25. The change in these receivable contributed to a positive 29 million euros, reflecting the continued decline in our stock base. Interest in income tax paid amounted to 31 million euros, it's well below last year, to 52 million euros, which included, as we mentioned last year, one of the impacts of the bond refinancing as well as the bid tax and 360 tax payments cash flow from operations therefore reaches 59 million euros and after capital expenditure of 25 continues to reflect the low level of capex in mail free cash flow comes out at 34 million euros cash flow from discontinued operation represents an output of 12 million euros it's higher than last year due to the 5 million plus increase in capex in the uk moving now to slide 23 to give you some details on the capex the capital expenditure presented here including excluding IFAS 16 standard 25 million euro for the first half done from 28 million euro last year mostly due to the lower placement in mail this mainly reflects a reduction of mail capex and with lower funky machine placements while investment in digital is growing also due to acquisitions as you can see in the published figure from 2025 look at the content for a very large share of total capex was about 30 percent in h125 against a revenue that represented at a time about 10 percent of the company moving now to slide 24 focusing on the net debt and the leverage the debt center 683 million euro that includes a 16 at the end of july 26 is broadly stable compared to to the end of january and in reality it hides the forex that's adverse to the to the debt at 15 million euro between the two dates it's offset by the cash generation during the period at the end of age 126 it breaks down into 435 million euro of net financial debt for leasing and 216 million euro of non-leasing debt as well as the 32 million euro of IFR 16 debt Our leverage ratio excluding leasing is stable at 1.6 times IBDA, even if when removing IBDA from lockers and cash held by lockers and C, which is 7 million euros, the leverage at group level stands at 3.1 times including leasing. Please note that the H1 ratios reflect the application of FIS-5, while prior periods have not been restated on this graph. Both ratios continue to stand well below our covenant levels, and as mentioned by Geoffrey, the Setup UK Open Network is expected to bring the leverage to extruding leasing down to around 1.2 times by the end of the financial year. Moving now to slide 25 and our financial structure. Our liquidity position at the end of July was just strong, 123 million euro in cash, 200 million euro of ungrown credit facilities, maturing in 2030, and a customer leasing portfolio at 522 million, contributing to future cash flow visibility with maturity well spread over the coming years. Subsequent to the period end, in August, we carried out two transactions, the issuance of a 100 million euro Shulshine loan and a German private placement and the earlier payment of 65 million euro for existing Shulshine, covering the trenches maturing both in November 26 and May 27. This confirms both our access to diversified sources of financing and our discipline in managing a balanced maturity profile let's now move to conclusion on patch 26 and 27. we are confirming our guidance for the full year on a basis that now excludes locals you can see the translation on this slide our previous guidance for fiscal year 26 was organic revenue change of minus 2 to plus 2 percent EBDA margin above 20 percent in digital above 25% in mail and above 10% in local. And the leverage ratio, exceeding living of 1.5 times. Now, it takes locals out, and that translates mechanically organic revenue change of minus 3 to plus 1. EBDA margin above 19% in digital and above 24% in mail. These are the figures we confirmed for the full year. And we stress that this is a technical translation. It's not a change in our view of the business. The margin step down reflects the relocation of local cost and the synergies across digital and mail, and for mail, it does reflect the diluted effect of the European private network, private local network we are keeping. On average, the same translation takes out our deliberating targets from 1.5 times to 1.6 times because local EBDA comes out. Then we apply the proceed of the UK sell, and that takes us to do 1.2 times at the end of the financial year, comforted with a strong free cash version of the LH1. That assumes the sell completes before year end. and finally moving to slide 28 the same logic applies to our 2030 ambitions and here i want to be explicit about what we are doing 2030 revenue ambition if you remember uh by solution are unchanged it's around 550 million euro for digital and around 500 million euro for mail on profitability the clock goes out and the ambition we announced in march would mechanically come down as well around 29 for digital and instead of 30 and the range of 19 to 24 for mail instead of 20 to 25. We expect to absorb that impact in full, so we are maintaining around 30% for digital and 20 to 25% for mail by 2030. On the restated scope, that is in a grade. It is our commitment to absorb around one point of margin over five years through the growth we are building in digital. Taking locals out does not dilute the ambition we set and digital is on track to become the largest and most profitable solution by 2030. A digital business growing with strong regulatory and structural tailwinds behind it, a male business that is resilient and that is actively feeding the digital transition and real financial flexibility to act. Thank you. And with that, I think we are ready to take the questions.

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Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

We have two written questions. Thank you, everybody. So, first question, what is the expected timeline and valuation range for the remaining assets? The U.S. and Japan businesses where Quadrant holds leading market positions. Do you expect the transaction to be completed by the end of FY26? Would you pursue a single buyer for the entire business or separate transactions by a job too?

It's a good question. I think what is important is to do the process right and maximize the value for quadrants. So that's really, I think, our gaining principles. The U.S. market, the market we probably have close to a third or 40% of the market share. We're definitely number one. It is an ad-scale business, It's probably representing 85% or 90% of the rest of the revenue. So this is really the primary asset in terms of value creation. It is a profitable base. It is cash-generated. So we have, obviously, a lot of things for us to look for. In combination to the strong position, we also have the Japanese base, where we have 7,000 lockers, probably a little bit less than half the base in the U.S. It's a more mature base, strongly cash-generative. We have probably 65%, 70% market share left there. So I would call them definitely premium assets with respect or in comparison to the lower maturity of the asset that we just sold in the U.K. We do have, obviously, global players that are operating throughout the U.S. and Japan in different areas that are interested by those assets because they obviously play into the locker themselves, use lockers, best-in lockers, potentially also use their own lockers. And we also have local or country-specific interested parties. So I would say it will take as long as it needs. The rest of the lock is obviously a bit more complex than the UK. We have several entities across several countries, depending from France, UK, US, Canada, Japan, et cetera, with a bigger scope of the business. And so aside that we'll do what we think is the right thing to do, we have obviously communicated this announcement publicly, so it's also in our best interest to move diligently and as efficiently as we can on that. We're not going to commit to any particular timeline. We obviously just want to make sure we are doing the right thing, but we're definitely focused on it now that we have completed the UK set.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Jeffrey. What is the return on investment of the Lockheed business?

On this question, I can take it. I'm not sure if the return on investment is looking to the divested part or the existing path, I think we've been quite clear when we are presenting the investment in lockers that we're expecting, notably in Japan, we discussed for that, but notably in the UK, that we were expecting an internal return rate that was significantly above a WAC, whatever the region of the world is. I think, you know, the divestment of the lockers in the UK is an example of divestment where we've been achieving these goals in terms of return is the same that we see today in the Japanese base when we look at the future cash flow. And as mentioned by Geoffrey, it's also the rest of the local network and its quality that we expect to produce a strong payback, which I remind you is already significantly positive in terms of ADA on the regions that are Japan and North America.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Will the 120 million euros of locker-related capex that is expected to be freed up over the next five years be reallocated to accelerate investment in the digital business? And over what time frame does management expect to eliminate the $2 million to $3 million of stranded costs?

So a few parts here. I could talk a little bit about the strategic allocation of our capital. or maybe you can specify the things from custom that are probably a little bit more complex than what was mentioned in the question. So from a capital allocation perspective, I think we've been in our last capital market day pretty specific on how we intended to allocate capex, the leverage of the company, the production, shareholder return to note that the dividend also share buybacks, and obviously what we think it was needed also to invest into the business, and potentially at times also doing some smaller acquisition that we've done with Passage and we've done more recently with Célandia. I think we've been also very clear as to what is our focus and our strategy, right? And our decision to sell the locker business is only to be able to focus even more on our goal, which is to make digital the largest activity naturally of the group and see the momentum that we see with investing in New York. Now, as a reminder, to achieve our goal for 2030, this is an organic plan and does not require, does not necessarily state any inorganic investment or allocation of capital. So from that perspective, we just remain opportunistic, right? so now that I have shared that context I think it's important that we complete the UKSL we finish the investment of the rest of the lockers and once we have received those proceeds it will be time probably around the after our financial compensation for the full year so now that then there would be a good time to reset the expectation I think for the coming years and as part of that, obviously, to be able to share with you what the board of questions will have decided in terms of allocation of those resources and capital. But from a business priority, I think we are pretty clear and pretty focused on what we need to do.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Joffre. Could you remind us what the revenue in a bit from the UK Open Network was and what multiples do the 65 million represent against these?

I think Joffrey mentioned the revenue being expected more than 10 million euros this year and EBDA being expected break-even this year. Thank you.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Is it safe to assume that the US and Japan will be sold to two different buyers?

No. It's not safe to assume that. We have a business that has a common platform, a shared R&D. It's one platform. It's the same platform that is being used by the U.S. consumers, the multi-family residents in the U.S., the one that is being used in Japan or Canada or the rest of the world, by the way, even in the U.K., which is a good opportunity for me just to specify. We sold the U.K. base, but we did not sell the IP of Quadiance. So the platform is – the ownership of the platform and the technology and the R&D, whether it's hardware or software, is retained by Quadiance. So this is really what we're selling is the distribution entity of the local base in the UK. And we retain that IP, and that IP is necessary to sustain both the U.S. and Japanese base notably. So there is, I think, a legitimate case for a buyer that would be interested by the entire IP. That being said, we obviously, or this is the purpose of the process, will remain open to see if there are various interests as part of the business, And if it makes sense and it creates more value, then it's something we could also consider.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. And how does Quadiant intend to use the disposal proceeds? Debt reduction, enhanced share buyback program, special dividend, or reinvestment in the digital business?

So I think it's a similar question from the one we have before. I think I could just use the difference on the short-term basis. we do expect to receive the cash of the 65 million euro of the uk divestment before the end of the year law explained to you that based on that we will be able to deliver the company much further than what we anticipated in our guidance so from the 1.5 to the 1.2 at minimum obviously um but that's a short-term delivery edge and i think it will be great at the full year result to be able to come back to you and set a new expectation as we move forward in line with our business strategies, which is obviously to focus on our digital business and share all the return.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And could you give us an overview of the criteria on which the transaction was done?

Yeah, on that front, I think we have a very open process and we have received obviously multiple bills because also the quality of the assets and we reviewed it independently and okay on different aspects obviously price is one of them speed of execution also the quality of the the partnership because I remind you that we didn't sell the IP here just a distribution so what does it mean for the coming quarters for the current months in terms of software for example, in terms of support, services, et cetera, to all those elements. And obviously, the IDS offer has been the best offer we received.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And could you give us some more color on the involvement of VESA in the lockers, mail, and digital business?

None whatsoever. The VESA, and we're very grateful to have them as our first shareholder, but they are not at the board, so they have no board of representation. Therefore, they're not part of the deliberation, evaluation, reviews of the different stage of the offers we have received for the UK, neither as part of the decision and the making of the decision about which offer to select and which deal to make. And after that, I will not speak on behalf of any of our shareholders about anything else that they may think or have expressed and that they have expressed it publicly.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And what are your expectations regarding the cash proceeds from Locker's divestitures? Leverage is already under control, and 2030 goals are organic.

So that's a good comment and statement. It's logical. And I think with Laurent, we've been very clear and being supported by the board that, you know, for us this year was the board of the year where we needed to get shareholder return and being focused on the return to our shareholders. We have made, during the last few years, significant investment to transform the company. And we felt that it was time also to be able to provide a return to our shareholders. Now, there could be different ways, right? The share price, the dividend, the share buybacks. And it's true that unless there was something significant that would come, we can achieve a 2030 ambition without that. So a big part of the analysis between what is expected as a fair debt average. You know, the interest rates are also increasing or they haven't been as low as they used to be. And we need to also translate how the market condition could evolve. So there's always a case with a bit more debt average. And after that, we have many other options, I think, to create the shareholder return. Dividend is part of our policy. We've been increasing it steadily year and year. Now, we have exceptional proceeds. I think that would also be something we could review. And obviously, there's also a legitimate evaluation of the opportunity of doing a share by back, especially when we have a share price that is low. And that's part of what the board is reviewing on a regular basis and have made decisions on a regular basis to augment or initiate a different program in the past. And I think it's in that light that I am sure we will review those expectations and set a new course for the beginning of next year.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. So, IDS Holdco is owned by EP Group, Mr. Kuczynski, who is also more than 26% shareholder of Quadiant through VESA. How was the conflict of interest managed in the transaction? Were there any competing third-party offers for the UK Open Network? And did the board obtain an independent fairness opinion confirming the 65 million valuation?

So, this was a very competitive process. We had received several multiple offers at various stages, non-binding, and obviously, you know, preliminary LOI, the value level of indication of interest before we could select the right body for us. We had independent advisors with Société Générale and also our legal advisors, Darwa, that has supported us in the process to make sure we could have a good and fair valuation of the different terms and conditions that was presented to us. But I think on just the merit of the competitive offer, I think, for the board, which is an independent board, and Mr. Klintzinski or his entity who did not participate at the Board of Quadrants, right, So it's readable that we've been able to review those without any interference from anybody else. And I think we made the decision that was in the best interest of Quagian based on a very competitive process.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. There is a provision for the European parcel network on which country? What would be the remaining equity for the European parcel network? Is there a specific explanation versus other areas where parcels are strong? And is the European parcel network to be sold in the medium term?

So I'll take that one, Geoffrey. The rest of Europe, in terms of balance sheet, in terms of size, is relatively small. So basically, the level of equity is limited outside of the private network that is now part of the male division. So there is not much left, I'd say, in the group value of Europe. Obviously, the biggest part is obviously Japan, to a certain extent North America, and also all what we call the IP that stands in France. and at least part of basically the scope to be sold.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Laurent. Are your expectations to sell at a premium versus the UK price, the US and the Japan blockers business?

It's very difficult to know at this stage. We obviously have, I think, a very competitive price for the UK. I think we need to go through the process and look at what the market will tell us on the rest of our local business, which, again, I think has significant difference between them with maturity, scale, and leadership position in those respective markets versus the UK. And we look forward to it.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And how much profit is expected on the 60 million euro divestment of UK households?

It's a 65 million euro divestment. I would say you don't go to the details of my country what's the equity of each so I suggest we end we wait for the closing and we see eventually at the end of the year what is the net impact on the specific FIS Park 9 and how much upsides have been against the equity value I think it's just basically we have a little bit of tax, naturally, that you pay. Absolutely, but there is anything special. Absolutely, and the bulk of it will be the net between whatever the purchase price is, minus the tax, and minus equity, which is mostly the tangible assets that are the lockers, the 3,000 lockers.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And how will customer data and accounts be migrated and managed as part of the assessment?

Customer data is but obviously of the platform itself. It's how we operate a network. So I think we need to differentiate the data, the operational data, the customer data to run the business versus the backup fees, the CRM, the ERP, the financial system that it did. We have established a TSA agreement with the buyer to be able to support them in that transition and making sure that we focus on the customer satisfaction at every moment during that transition and making sure there would be no disruption and allowing them sufficient time to be able to migrate the back-of-face system, more generally speaking. And as part of the process, too, as Laurent mentioned, the software is owned by Quadiant Locker, and we will now become a software vendor for this buyer, and we will be, like we do for many other carriers and we will obviously maintain and support and upgrade the system so there will be no disruption on the data and no need for migration on the short term. The new buyer obviously will set its new course, a new strategy, and we'll be happy to support them in case they like at some point to change and migrate to another system if they elect.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, okay. Is it your ambition to sell the rest of the lockers business at a price at more than $20,000 per locker? That price would be consistent with premium versus new K-deal.

So I'll take that one, Geoffrey. It's a bit of a simplest view to price, I think, to value a business just based on number of lockers. It's depending on much more what's the usage of this locker, in which market are we in, do we have the ownership of this locker, is it on our balance sheet? So, again, if you remember, Japan and UK are mostly open network and sitting on the relative gradient, whereas America is mostly sold lockers. So I don't think we can take this shortcut of €20,000 per locker. It's going to depend, again, how much is the usage, what is the maturity of this base as well, what's the remaining value of these assets, what's the future growth, obviously, what's the expected margin. And here we mentioned that we sold UK, but the distribution part also have all the IP in the YLTs that have been captured in France. And this also brings an additional layer of margin that needs to be also assessed in the future cash flow.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Laurent. You mentioned enterprise value of 65 million for the open network disposal in the UK. And what was the equity value?

So I think we mentioned that already, 3,000 locker, that's the bulk, basically, of the netbook value is the tangible asset, which is 3,000 locker. And we know there is a range between 10k to 20k, depending on the size of the locker, basically.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Laurent. Could you just remind us what is the cost of one locker?

Yeah, that's just what I mentioned, so it's okay.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And perhaps, moving on to mail, how much was the tariff refund in each one?

So we got about 3 million back on the tariff refund. So we got a little bit more. In fact, part of it was time to lock us. So it's been classified as well. It's about 3 million euros.

Operator

Thank you.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

And is there a share buyback program ongoing at the moment?

So we're not currently buying back shares, but obviously it's part of the consideration of capital allocation in the future. Whenever we sell, obviously we get the cash first and sell the rest of the locker as well.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Beyond the acquisition of the UK lockers business, do you have any visibility on Facebook or EP Group's intentions regarding its shareholding in Quadiant? Is a shareholder agreement or standstill arrangement being considered?

Obviously, we're not going to speak on behalf of our shareholder. We can refer to their last declaration when I think they passed the threshold of 25% of ownership and the intent that they had. I think they've been pretty clear that they were supporting the strategy and that they had no intent to ask for a board position, and therefore there's no basis to have a standstill or any other type of agreement. There will be a shareholder agreement at this stage.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Jacques. And when selling the UK fleet of lockers, have you kept some intellectual property on the technology with future royalties?

Absolutely. As I was mentioning, you need to be distinguishing the distribution part, which is the distributing legal entity. We don't like Locker UK in this particular case, that is buying both lockers from our supply chain that owns the IP, both of the hardware and the software, and pays royalties based on the usage or based on the access to the software for each locker. So the IP has not been sold, and that's why I was mentioning that the whole project of the buyer was also included in the evaluation and the ability to continue supplying IP.

The $65 million purchase price do not include the services to maintain the technology that will all obviously commercialize on an arm's length basis with anybody that uses our technology, including the new buyer, until they elect to do otherwise.

Laura Paxton Head of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you both. So, I think that's all the questions, so we can conclude the call. Thank you, everyone, for attending and for asking all your questions. So, our next call will be on the 1st of December for our third quarter sales release. In the meantime, we look forward to seeing you, some of you, in the coming days during our radio show. Thank you very much, and have a wonderful evening.

Thank you, Laurent. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Laurent.

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