Ben Varro

“Just on the relationship between extruded and soft mud, can you give a bit of colour there? Have you seen customers switching over? or is it anything structural or purely just a cyclical factor?”

“Next one, coming back to chess, obviously, yeah, still some operational challenges, at least based on the prior year. I guess what gives you confidence to put 15 million into the business when we at least haven't seen the uptick in the margin yet?”

“I'll do two as well, do them one by one, both on landscaping. Just on the competitive landscape there, last year there was some talk of overcapacity in some segments.”