Adeia Inc. Q3 FY2025 Earnings Call
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Auto-generated speakersGood day, everyone. Thank you for being here. Welcome to Adeia's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Chaney, Vice President of Investor Relations for Adeia. Chris, please take it away.
Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us as we share with you details of our quarterly financial results. With me on the call today are Paul Davis, our President and CEO; and Keith Jones, our CFO. Paul will share with you some general observations regarding the quarter, and then Keith will give further details on our financial results and guidance. We will then conclude with a question-and-answer period. In addition to today's earnings release, there is an earnings presentation, which you can access along with the webcast in the IR portion of our website. Before turning the call over to Paul, I would like to provide a few reminders. First, today's discussion contains forward-looking statements that are predictions, projections, or other statements about future events, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, and therefore, subject to risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances. For more information on the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from what we discuss today, please refer to the Risk Factors section in our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and our quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Please note that the company does not intend to update or alter these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances arising after this call. To enhance investors' understanding of our ongoing economic performance, we will discuss non-GAAP information during this call. We use non-GAAP financial measures internally to evaluate and manage our operations. We have, therefore, chosen to provide this information to enable you to perform comparisons of our operating results as we do internally. We have provided reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release, the earnings presentation, and on the Investor Relations section of our website. A recording of this conference call will be made available on the Investor Relations website at adeia.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Paul Davis.
Thank you, Chris, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Our third quarter revenue of $87.3 million was in line with our expectations, and we remain confident in the strength of our business. Importantly, our non-Pay TV recurring revenue was up 31% year-over-year for the third quarter. Let me first address the change to our revenue guidance we announced this morning. While we continue to have paths to achieve our original revenue guidance range for the year, we have taken a prudent approach and adjusted our 2025 full year revenue guidance primarily to reflect that we have now filed litigation against AMD and closing a license agreement in the fourth quarter, as previously expected, is now unlikely. We have continued to make good progress on other significant deals in our pipeline, and we remain focused on getting the best economics we can over the long term. Our revised revenue guidance range reflects multiple opportunities that we are actively pursuing. To the extent that they don't close in 2025, they become a strong catalyst to growth in 2026. Before I get into the details of the third quarter results, I want to cover today's announcement regarding our litigation against AMD for patent infringement. I will also provide a brief update on the progress we have made in our other pending litigation. This morning, we issued a press release announcing we filed multiple patent infringement lawsuits against AMD in the Western District of Texas. Our decision to file litigation was not taken lightly and followed significant efforts to reach a business resolution. The action we took today reflects our firm commitment to ensure we realize appropriate value for our substantial investments we have made in our foundational semiconductor technology. For years, AMD's products have incorporated and made extensive use of our patented semiconductor technologies, which have enabled them to be a market leader in the semiconductor industry, including those related to hybrid bonding and advanced process nodes. We sought to enter into a license agreement with AMD, and we have been referencing this opportunity since last year and have been pursuing a deal for even longer. Despite our efforts to reach a business resolution, AMD continues to use Adeia's patented semiconductor innovations without authorization. The lawsuits we filed today seek to stop this unauthorized use and include patents covering hybrid bonding and advanced process node technologies. Our hybrid bonding technology is used in AMD's most advanced semiconductor products, including those for AI workloads, data centers, and high-performance cloud computing. Our advanced process node technology is used in the vast majority of AMD's current semiconductor products. We believe in the strength of our patent portfolio, the value of our innovations, and we are committed to protecting our intellectual property. We are confident in our ability to achieve a positive outcome. Turning to the progress in our other pending litigation. It has been a year since we filed litigation against Disney, and the cases have been progressing well and collectively better than we expected. First, in Delaware, the court denied Disney's motion to dismiss certain of the patents in the case. As such, the litigation will continue to proceed on all 6 patents. In Brazil, our request for a preliminary injunction was granted and further upheld on appeal. We have initiated enforcement proceedings on the injunction. In Europe, the 3 cases are proceeding as planned and are all scheduled to go to trial in the first quarter of 2026. I am optimistic about this early progress in our Disney litigation, and our goal remains to ultimately reach an agreement with Disney that fairly values our intellectual property. Turning to Shaw. The court recently ruled in our favor and denied Shaw's motion to dismiss our breach of contract case, meaning the litigation will now move forward. In our patent litigation case against Videotron, we recently received a positive ruling from the court. While details of the decision are still confidential, we are pleased that the court found 2 of the 4 patents in the case are valid and infringed. Further, the court awarded damages with respect to both patents and an injunction with respect to one of them. Finally, in our patent litigation against Bell, we expect a ruling in the second or third quarter of 2026. Now for some additional commentary on our business results. During the third quarter, we closed 2 long-term license agreements: one was a renewal with Altice, one of the largest broadband and video service providers in the United States, for access to our media portfolio. The agreement supports their Optimum services, including broadband, cable television, and OTT streaming platforms, ensuring subscribers enjoy advanced content discovery and navigation experiences. The second agreement was with a new e-commerce customer also for access to our media portfolio. We have now signed 4 e-commerce customers since entering this exciting new market last year, and we anticipate many more in the coming quarters. We recently celebrated our third anniversary as a stand-alone company, and I am tremendously proud of all we have accomplished. The separation unleashed the opportunity for us to expand our pipeline and grow as an independent organization. We have continued to expand beyond pay TV, which has been our core business historically, and into new growth opportunities in semiconductors, OTT, social media, and e-commerce. License agreements we have signed in these verticals are now driving growth in our non-Pay TV recurring revenue stream. In the third quarter, our non-Pay TV recurring revenue was up 81% since separation, providing evidence of our early success in these new verticals. This growth includes new agreements with large semiconductor companies such as Sandisk, Kioxia, and STMicroelectronics, and OTT deals with Amazon, Paramount, and Starz, and social media and consumer electronics deals with X, Samsung, LG, and Canon. We have also renewed key Pay-TV deals with customers such as Altice, Verizon, and Cox, which we've had relationships for many years and have renewed time and time again. These deals provide a solid foundation from which we can grow as we add new customers. One of our key priorities at separation was to grow our IP portfolio. Growing our portfolio adds value to help secure new customers and renewals, which drive ongoing recurring revenue. At the time of separation, we had approximately 9,500 patent assets. With a commitment to expand and evolve our portfolio, we have seen our portfolio increase to over 13,000 patent assets, reflecting an impressive growth of over 35%. The vast majority of this growth has been from internal R&D, focused on new patent filings in OTT, AI, hybrid bonding, and thermal management. Additionally, we have built a positive, healthy culture and have been widely recognized as a leading innovator. We were named one of the Best Places to Work by U.S. News & World Report for 2 years in a row and one of the World's Most Trustworthy Companies by Newsweek. We were honored that Adeia's hybrid bonding technology received the Best of Show Award for the Most Innovative Technology at the Future of Memory and Storage Conference in August. This recognition is a strong validation of the dedication, innovation, and technical excellence our team brings to advancing the future of memory and storage solutions. But our accomplishments don't end there because all of this contributes to our financial success. Our highly cash-generative business model has provided the strength to execute on our balanced capital allocation approach as we have continued to pay our dividend, deleverage our balance sheet, repurchase stock, and make tuck-in acquisitions of strategic patent portfolios. It has truly been a remarkable period for Adeia, and I'm excited about the road that lies ahead. Our goal since separation has been to deliver sustainable long-term revenue growth, and we are making excellent progress as evidenced by our non-Pay TV recurring revenue growth. Our disciplined balanced capital allocation strategy continues. And during the third quarter, we made debt payments of $11.1 million, continuing our commitment to pay down our debt at an accelerated rate. We have paid down an impressive $312 million of our debt since separation. Our accomplishments have put us on a trajectory for long-term success, and I'm truly grateful for all the hard work and dedication from our team. With that, I'll turn the call over to Keith for a review of our financial performance.
Thank you, Paul. I'm pleased to be speaking with you today to share details of our third quarter 2025 financial results. During the third quarter, we delivered revenue of $87.3 million, driven by the execution of 2 long-term media license agreements. This includes signing a significant renewal with Altice, further extending our long-term relationship with them. I'm also proud to announce the addition of another e-commerce customer as we continue to gain momentum in this growing market. We have now signed license agreements with 4 new e-commerce customers within a relatively short period of time, and we have built and are actively engaged with a large pipeline of additional opportunities. Now I would like to discuss our operating expenses for which I'll be referring to non-GAAP numbers only. During the third quarter, operating expenses were $37.1 million, a decrease of $3.5 million, or 9%, from the prior quarter. Research and development expenses modestly increased $117,000, or 1% from the prior quarter. Selling, general and administrative expenses decreased $1.6 million, or 8%, from the prior quarter, primarily due to a decrease in corporate administrative expenses as well as lower personnel costs. These decreases align with the cost-saving initiatives that we previously highlighted. Litigation expense was $5.2 million, a decrease of $2 million, or 28%, compared to the prior quarter, primarily due to lower spending on Canadian matters, which was partially offset by increased spending on Disney and AMD litigation. Interest expense during the third quarter was $10.1 million, a decrease of $162,000, primarily attributable to our continued debt repayments. Our current effective interest rate, which includes amortization of debt issuance costs, was 7.8%, consistent with the prior quarter. Other income was $1.5 million and was primarily related to interest earned on our cash and investment portfolio and due to interest income recognized on revenue agreements with long-term billing structures under ASC 606. Our adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter was $50.7 million, reflecting an adjusted EBITDA margin of 58%. Depreciation expense for the quarter was $479,000. Our non-GAAP income tax rate remained at 23% for the quarter. Our income tax expense consists primarily of federal and state domestic taxes as well as Korean withholding taxes. Now for a few details on the balance sheet. We ended the third quarter with $115.1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities and generated $17.8 million in cash from operations. We have made $11.1 million in principal payments on our debt in the third quarter and ended the quarter with a term loan balance of $447.8 million. Our highly cash-generative business model and our disciplined focus on deleveraging our balance sheet have produced outstanding results. Since separation, we have now paid down $311.6 million as we continue to focus on deleveraging our balance sheet. During the third quarter, we paid a cash dividend of $0.05 per share of common stock. Our Board also approved a payment of another $0.05 per share dividend to be paid on December 15 to shareholders of record as of November 24. Now I will go over our guidance for the full year 2025. As Paul noted in his remarks, today, we have filed litigation against AMD for patent infringement. In our prior calls, we had referenced our anticipation of signing a license agreement with a semiconductor company, which was, in fact, AMD. After a long negotiation period, we have reached an impasse which has resulted in litigation. This anticipated license agreement was included in our prior guidance as we have previously mentioned. As a result of the litigation we have filed, we are adjusting our 2025 revenue guidance to reflect the likelihood that we will not close AMD this year. We are committed to obtaining the appropriate economics on each and every deal, which is of paramount importance to us, and we'll continue to remain disciplined on this front to maximize the long-term potential of Adeia. Accordingly, our new 2025 revenue guidance range is $360 million to $380 million. I would like to emphasize that our pipeline remains strong and is growing. We continue to have many paths to success and the ultimate outcome of our short-term revenue outlook is largely due to the execution timing of that pipeline. I would like to mention that there still remain opportunities that could potentially result in revenue beyond the noted range for 2025. To the extent that these opportunities do not close this year, they will act as a catalyst for a strong 2026. With this momentum and supported by our pipeline, we foresee revenue growth in 2026. Turning to our operating expenses. As a result of our ongoing cost-saving initiatives, we have now lowered our overall operating expense guidance. Our operating expenses are now expected to be in the range of $160 million to $164 million. Our expense guidance includes the expected costs associated with our litigation with Disney and now AMD. Relative to our Q3 litigation expense, we would anticipate litigation expense to increase by approximately $3 million in Q4. We expect interest expense to be in the range of $40 million to $41 million. We expect other income to be in the range of $5.5 million to $6.5 million. We expect a resulting adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 56%. We expect the non-GAAP tax rate to remain consistent at roughly 23% for the full year. We also expect capital expenditures to be approximately $2 million for the full year. As we reach our 3-year anniversary of being a stand-alone publicly traded company, I reflect and take pride in the progress we have made in our business. These achievements are driven by the dedicated efforts of our employees who work tirelessly to shape and execute our collective vision. Our long-term prospects remain strong, and the cumulative efforts we have made thus far will be a springboard for our future success. That brings an end to our prepared remarks. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator to begin our question-and-answer session.
And your first question comes from the line of Scott Searle with ROTH Capital.
A quick clarification and then 2 questions. Keith, I'm not sure if I heard any onetime catch-up fees in the quarter. I'm wondering if you could clarify that. And I assume it would all be related to media. And then as we're looking out to the fourth quarter, a wide range of outcomes there depending on when deals get signed. I wonder if you could provide a little bit more color in terms of the size, the types of deals in the pipeline. I think you've talked a lot about e-commerce comprising that. But in particular, I'd like to know what you guys are thinking about recurring revenue, how that moves sequentially from the third quarter to fourth quarter, and maybe an early shot at '26 of how you see recurring media revenue grow in '26. And I had one follow-up.
Scott, that’s a great question. The recurring revenue in the third quarter was modest, around $1 million. This was primarily due to one new license agreement and one renewal. So, there’s nothing significant to highlight there, and it reflects the overall stability of our recurring revenue. If you do the math, that puts our recurring revenue in the mid-80s. Looking at our forecast, I see not only a strong foundation but also several agreements in both media and our semiconductor sector that should provide some uplift. From our backlog, we anticipate crossing approximately $90 million in the fourth quarter, which is a solid indicator of the business's stability. In the first quarter, we have one specific agreement in the semiconductor area that will see a short-term adjustment due to revenue recognition rules, but this will stabilize in the second quarter and beyond. We are seeing strength in our recurring revenue moving forward. As for the quality of the pipeline, I'll hand it over to Paul for more details.
Thanks, Scott, and appreciate the question. I think we're very pleased with our pipeline. As Keith and I both noted in our prepared remarks, both on the semiconductor side of the business and the media side of the business, it remains quite strong. And one thing I would just highlight is that when things do move to the right, the opportunities are not lost. We still see all of the opportunities that we saw last quarter or earlier in the year still in front of us and still achievable. But there is a timing element. And what we focus on is getting the right deal done for the long term for Adeia and its stakeholders. And so sometimes that does mean things do shift to the right, but the opportunities are not lost. And if they do move into 2026, it does mean for some significant growth that we could see in 2026 as compared to 2025.
Keith, if I could just quickly follow up, then. That means that the semiconductor revenue, I think it was $5.2 million in that ballpark, was up sequentially from a recurring standpoint, I guess, driven by the 3D NAND opportunity. And then just to dive in on AMD, I'm wondering, Paul, could you just lay out the timelines and the milestones that we could expect in terms of how this litigation would progress? And as part of that, then, how is that impacting or not impacting the dialog with other semi vendors out there, particularly as it relates to the logic opportunity with chip-led opportunities?
Thank you, Scott. I’ll start by addressing your question, and then Keith can follow up on yours. You’re right to confirm this. Regarding AMD and the timing, we filed two cases today in the Western District of Texas. We expect these cases to go to trial, assuming everything goes according to plan, sometime in 2027, but I want to emphasize it’s still very early since the filings were just made today. Additionally, there is currently a government shutdown that has affected some of the jurisdictions available to us. More jurisdictions may become available once the government reopens. So, please stay tuned for updates on the milestones. We feel very optimistic about the case we've filed; we have ten substantial patents, seven of which are related to hybrid bonding. Importantly, eight of these patents won't expire until mid-2030 or later, making them significant assets in our portfolio. They cover nearly all of AMD's products, including their most advanced GPUs.
And Scott, you hit the nail on the head. We did see an increase in semiconductor, and we're really excited about it. Once again, you're spot on. The growth and strength in the NAND market that you've been hearing about is reflected in our financial results, and we expect that momentum to carry into Q4 as well.
Your next question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial.
Could you clarify some of the statements you made last quarter compared to this quarter? Last quarter, you mentioned that there were enough opportunities to meet the upper end of your guidance without needing AMD. However, this quarter, you're reducing your guidance because you don't have AMD. Currently, you're indicating that you've met your expectations for Q2 and Q3. If that's true, why didn't you provide guidance since the Street was at $100 million? I'm trying to understand the situation better.
So Hamed, there are a few points to address. We only provide annual guidance and do not give quarterly updates, so it's uncommon for us to do so. Regarding last quarter's statements, they remain accurate. We have a strong pipeline and several opportunities. As both Keith and I mentioned, we still have chances to exceed the revised guidance range, including returning to our original targets. However, as we approach this time of year, paths have narrowed due to the AMD litigation. Therefore, we are choosing a cautious approach and have decided to lower the guidance range at this time, especially since we are now in November. Despite this, we believe that significant opportunities lie ahead for us, whether they materialize in 2025 or 2026, particularly in our media and semiconductor sectors, which we are very enthusiastic about.
Okay. And then just so I understand, what's there in the pipeline that gives you confidence that you could see revenue lift by about $20 million in the quarter that hasn't happened at all throughout this year?
Sure. As you know, we engage in very large deals, often reaching nine figures, which can take considerable time and are complex to negotiate. We often work with parties that require high-level approvals, which can complicate the timeline. However, we are having productive discussions with various parties in both our media and semiconductor sectors that boost our confidence. We currently have several initiatives underway, including litigation against AMD, outstanding litigation with Disney, Canadian operators, and significant unlicensed OTT opportunities, as well as additional semiconductor prospects. Overall, we have been pursuing numerous opportunities for quite some time. While I can't provide specific details, looking at everything collectively gives us confidence in our ability to execute and finalize these deals. The timing of these deals could affect whether they materialize in 2025 or 2026, which explains the variation in our revenue guidance.
Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Galinko with Maxim Group.
I'm curious if there are any implications for other possible deals or renewals in the semiconductor pipeline given the litigation announcement with AMD.
Yes. And a similar question that Scott asked that I didn't address. So thank you for bringing that up, Matt. We're very excited about the adoption cycle of hybrid bonding right now. You're hearing more and more adoption, especially in the logic space. And then as you look out further with HBM and also in NAND that we see more and more adoption coming down the pipeline in '27 and beyond, in particular, for the memory market and for next year for the logic market. And again, when you look at the cases we filed today, 7 of the 10 patents are hybrid bonding related. And so that is very exciting to us in terms of the breadth of our portfolio and the relevance to really these advanced semiconductors and the use of our technology that we have invented. And so we're very excited about what that pipeline can be. Now AMD was ahead of the curve in terms of adoption of hybrid bonding. So their first products came out in 2022. The rest of the logic market is a bit behind. But you've got a number of companies that have announced intentions of launching products in 2026 and beyond that we believe will utilize hybrid bonding and our technology as well.
And maybe if I could just ask a follow-up. I realize it's still early in the planning cycle for '26. But to the extent that you expect some of these opportunities to land and that you seem to have pretty high level of confidence that 2026 will be a growth year in terms of revenue. So to that end, do you expect for operating expenses to follow the revenue trend line? Or will you keep a pretty tight lid on spending for the foreseeable future?
Matt. I think that's a great question. So when we take a look at where that could be, we feel good about that product line and what that represents from a top line perspective. And frankly, what we see out there and some of the numbers that have been published, that's something that we think is achievable with the pipeline that we have for all intents and purposes. Now from a spending perspective, we'll continue to invest in the business but at a modest rate. So that increase that we foresee in revenue would not be consumed by incremental spending at a significantly higher level. We will still be very smart. We need to grow our portfolio. The strength of our portfolio pays off dividends in terms of the new deals, and I'll tell you quite frankly even in the litigation that we filed. So our investment in our portfolio quite frankly is a testimony to the strength of that underlying technology. And for those who might not be informed, filing 10 patents says a lot, says an absolute lot. And in general terms, what you find is typically people file 5 patents in terms of litigation. But the amount of investment that we've made really speaks to that strength because, quite frankly, there's a lot more that we have that are significant in strength. And that only comes from our investment in our R&D. With that being said, we'll continue to grow our portfolio. We would expect our EBITDA margins to be in that 60th percentile that we've grown close to or very close to it. And then once again, just having tremendous cash generation from our business. One thing to note that we're quite proud of, since separation, we have generated over $500 million in cash from operations. So when we say we have a cash-generative business model, the proof is in the pudding of those financial results.
Your next question comes from the line of Madison de Paola with Rosenblatt Securities.
This is Madison calling on behalf of Kevin Cassidy. And I was just wondering what the timeline for licensing RapidCool was. And also, I know that Microsoft has recently announced a cooling technique called microfluidics. How is that different from RapidCool?
Thank you for your question, Maddie. It's great to have you on the call. Firstly, as we mentioned in our last call, we view RapidCool as a revenue opportunity for the mid-to-long term. We are currently collaborating with customers and partners on its rollout and are quite encouraged by the progress. Since launching it to the public last quarter, we've received a lot of positive feedback and have increased our engagements. However, we are still in the early phases of this project and are very excited about its potential. Although it’s still early days, we see a tremendous opportunity ahead. Our solution involves directly bonding a cold plate to the chip. From what I understand, Microsoft's approach includes etching in the chip, which presents some technical challenges that we do not face with our solution. I'm happy to discuss this further offline, but I believe our offerings are quite different. We see our solution as more plug-and-play, making it more readily adoptable by the industry, potentially as quickly as the semiconductor industry typically adopts new technologies.
And that concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now turn it back over to Chris for closing comments.
Actually, thank you, operator, and thanks to everyone for being with us today. I would like to thank our employees as we celebrate our third anniversary as a stand-alone company. Later this month, we'll be attending the Wells Fargo Annual TMT Summit. We look forward to seeing you at this and other upcoming events. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.