Bunge Global SA Q1 FY2025 Earnings Call
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Auto-generated speakersGood day, and welcome to the Bunge Global SA First Quarter 2025 Earnings Release and Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in listen-only mode. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask your questions. Please note that today’s event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ruth Ann Wisener. Please go ahead, madam.
Thank you, operator, and thank you for joining us this morning for our first quarter earnings call. Before we get started, I want to let you know that we have slides to accompany our discussion. These can be found at the Investor Center on our website at bunge.com under Events and Presentations. Reconciliations of our non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure are posted on our website, as well. I’d like to direct you to Slide 2 and remind you that today’s presentation includes forward-looking statements that reflect Bunge’s current view with respect to future events, financial performance, and industry conditions. These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Bunge has provided additional information in its reports on file with the SEC concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in this presentation, and we encourage you to review these factors. On the call this morning are Greg Heckman, Bunge’s Chief Executive Officer; and John Neppl, Chief Financial Officer. I’ll now turn the call over to Greg.
Thank you, Ruth Ann, and good morning everyone. I want to start by thanking our team for their hard work and adaptability in what has already been a highly dynamic 2025. Their continued focus and great execution delivered a strong start to the year, demonstrated once again that we can navigate market environments with agility and speed, harnessing a truly global platform and strength in our core markets. We continue to believe in the strategic merits of our planned combination with Viterra and expect to close the transaction in the near term. While the timing of regulatory approvals has not been what we anticipated, we’ve engaged in constructive conversations with the relevant authorities and are prepared to close in very short order once received. We recently chose to execute our rights to terminate the definitive share purchase agreement with CJ Selecta pursuant to its terms. However, soy protein concentrate for feed remains an attractive market with promising growth prospects that nicely complements our soy origination crushing capabilities in Brazil. At the same time, we’ve made great progress in other key areas, further sharpening our portfolio, strengthening our business, and positioning Bunge for the future. We recently announced the sale of our European Margarines and Spreads business and our North American corn milling business. Both of these transactions allow us to further align around our global value chains. We also closed our previously announced partnership with Repsol and announced a key milestone with the incorporation of intermediate novel crops in the production of renewable fuels in Europe. This alliance furthers our long-term strategy to create alternative paths towards meeting our customers' demand for lower carbon agricultural and oil supply chains. Shifting to operating results, the first quarter exceeded our expectations, driven in part by some pull forward of activity from Q2 into Q1. Later in the quarter, shifts in trade dynamics, including tariff and regulatory uncertainty, prompted some farmers and consumers to act ahead of potential changes. Looking ahead, we’re reaffirming our full year 2025 adjusted EPS guidance of approximately $7.75 and remain confident in our ability to continue to execute despite the current market environment. As we mentioned last quarter, we expect to provide an outlook for the combined company once we’ve closed the Vitara transaction. With that, I’ll turn it over to John for a deeper look at our financials and outlook.
Thanks, Greg, and good morning everyone. We’ll turn to the earnings highlights on Slide 5. As Greg mentioned, the first quarter exceeded our expectations. As tariff and regulatory uncertainty increased later in the quarter, some farmers and customers moved ahead of potential changes, pulling earnings from Q2 into Q1. Our reported first quarter earnings per share was $1.48 compared to $1.68 in the first quarter of 2024. Reported results included an unfavorable mark-to-market timing difference of $0.08 per share, leading to a negative impact of $0.25 per share. Notable items were related to the transaction and integration costs associated with Viterra. Adjusted EPS was $1.81 in the first quarter versus $3.04 in the prior year. Adjusted segment earnings before interest and taxes, or EBIT, was $406 million in the quarter versus $719 million last year. Processing, higher results in the Brazil, Europe, and Asia soy crush value chains were more than offset by lower results in North America, Argentina, and European soft seeds. Merchandising improved performance in our global grains financial services business more than offset by lower results in ocean freight. With the exception of Asia, refined and specialty oils results were down in all regions, reflecting a more balanced global supply and demand environment driven in part by the uncertainty in U.S. biofuel policies. In milling, slightly higher results in North America were more than offset by lower results in South America. Milling margins were pressured by a more competitive pricing environment. Corporate and Other had a decrease in corporate expenses primarily driven by lower performance-based compensation. Other results included $24 million from the sugar and bioenergy joint venture that we divested in the fourth quarter of last year. Net interest expense of $45 million was down in the quarter compared to last year due to increased capitalized interest, higher interest income on investments, and interest-bearing instruments, and interest received on Brazilian tax refunds. The decrease in income tax expense for the quarter was primarily due to lower pre-tax income in 2025 and prior year unfavorable adjustments related to foreign currency fluctuations in South America. Let’s turn to Slide 6 where you can see our adjusted EPS and EBIT trends over the past four years along with the trailing 12 months. Throughout this period, our team has excelled in navigating the complexities of dynamic markets while simultaneously executing various internal initiatives. Recent trends indicate a more balanced supply and demand environment and the impact of trade and biofuel uncertainty, translating into less volatility and lower earnings. Slide 7 details our capital allocation. For the first quarter, we generated $392 million of adjusted funds from operations. After allocating $54 million to sustaining CapEx, which includes maintenance, environmental health, and safety, we had $338 million of discretionary cash flow available. Of this amount, we paid $91 million in dividends and $256 million in growth and productivity-related CapEx. We also received $306 million of cash proceeds related to the sale of an interest in our soy crush footprint in Spain to Repsol as part of our newly formed joint venture and a final payment for the sale of our interest in the Sugar and Bioenergy joint venture. This resulted in approximately $300 million of retained cash flow. Moving to Slide 8, at quarter end, readily marketable inventories or RMI exceeded our net debt by approximately $3 billion. The adjusted leverage ratio, which reflects our adjusted net debt to adjusted EBITDA, is 0.6 times at the end of the quarter. Slide 9 highlights our liquidity position. At quarter end, we had committed credit facilities of approximately $8.7 billion, all of which were unused, providing ample liquidity to maintain ongoing capital needs. In addition, we had a cash balance of approximately $3.2 billion accumulated largely from the U.S. public debt offering that we closed last September in support of the Viterra transaction. There were no amounts outstanding on our $2 billion commercial paper. Please turn to Slide 10. The trailing 12 months adjusted ROIC was 9.4%, and ROIC was 8.2%. Adjusting for construction in progress on our large, multi-year projects not yet operating and the excess cash on our balance sheet from the Viterra closing, adjusted ROIC would increase by 1.5 percentage points and ROIC by approximately 1 percentage point. Returns have declined from recent highs but they remain above our adjusted weighted average cost of capital of 7.7%. Moving to Slide 11, in the trailing 12 months, we produced discretionary cash flow of approximately $1.2 billion and a cash flow yield of 10.2% compared to our cost of equity of 8.2%. Please turn to Slide 12 and our 2025 outlook. As Greg mentioned in his remarks, taking into account Q1 results, the current margin and macro environment, and forward curves, we continue to expect full year 2025 adjusted EPS of approximately $7.75. This forecast excludes the impact of announced acquisitions and divestitures that are expected to close during the year. Agribusiness full year results are forecasted to be slightly lower than our previous outlook and down from last year, primarily due to lower results in processing. Refined & Specialty Oils, full year results are expected to be similar to our previous outlook and down from the prior year, primarily driven by a more balanced supply and demand environment in North America. Milling full year results are forecasted to be up from last year. In Corporate and Other, full year results are expected to be more favorable than our previous outlook and the prior year. Additionally, the company expects the following for 2025: adjusted annual effective tax rate in the range of 21% to 25%, net interest expense in the range of $220 million to $250 million, down from our previous expected range of $250 million to $280 million, capital expenditures in the range of $1.5 billion to $1.7 billion, and depreciation and amortization approximately $490 million. With that, I’ll turn things back over to Greg for some closing comments.
Thanks, John. Before turning to Q&A, I want to offer a few closing thoughts. In today’s uncertain global environment, we can be certain of the strength of our team, global footprint, and our operating model. Our purpose of connecting farmers to consumers to deliver essential food, feed, and fuel is something the world depends on, regardless of external circumstances. For the last few years, our team has consistently risen to the challenge, navigating an ever-changing world, exceeding expectations in the face of a global pandemic, trade wars, and geopolitical uncertainty. I’m confident that the same focus, discipline, and ability to execute will continue to drive our success. Our business is built on a resilient global infrastructure that ensures an efficient supply of staple crops and food and feed products that has proven its ability to withstand volatility. We have the right systems and strategies in place to manage risk, adapt to external challenges, and remain focused on what truly matters. The planned combination with Viterra will only enhance our diversification across assets, geographies, and crops, providing us with more optionality to help address the world’s food security needs. Its core business is resilient, and the track record proves this. I have no doubt that we’ll continue to deliver value for customers at both ends of the value chain. With that, let’s turn to Q&A.
The first question from the phone comes from Salvatore Tiano with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you very much. Firstly, I want to ask to follow-up a little bit on acquisitions. With Viterra, you make it very clear that it seems the approval is very imminent. But obviously, China seems to be the holdup here, and there’s always limited visibility in what they do. So how confident are you that actually they will approve the transaction soon? And if there is a chance that this may not happen, what is your backup plan there? And also on CJ Selecta, can you provide a little bit more commentary on why the transaction didn’t go through? It seems to indicate that you chose to terminate it, but at least by our math, it was a pretty nice, very accretive transaction. So why did you make this decision?
Let me start with Viterra. Number one, the strategic merits of this transaction remain in place, and it accelerates everything that we’re doing strategically. We’ve had very constructive interaction with the authorities as we’ve submitted additional information as needed. They’ve done a really excellent job engaging with all the parties and advancing the process, so we’re confident that traction is going to be improved. When you look at the merits, it’s very clear. We are purpose-built to create a resilient supply chain to serve China and the rest of the key demand markets globally. So in times of some of the extreme market disruptions that we’ve seen and one like we’re experiencing now, the reliability that comes from a company like ourselves that’s operating every major origin is even more important. So timing, we don’t know, but the process moves, and we feel very good about the ultimate destination. As far as CJ, we went through the long stop date, we passed that, and we just looked at the circumstances of currently where things were at with the business. It made sense at this point to terminate the transaction. Now, as I said in the comments, the market for CSPC on the feed market continues to be attractive, and it fits well with our Brazilian business. So we’ll continue to look for the right opportunity to expand in that market.
Maybe just to clarify, Salvatore, on CJ, going through the end date was a result of not having all the regulatory approvals, and at that point, we could have chosen to extend had we felt it was appropriate. But as Greg mentioned, we just felt at that time the right thing to do was to terminate the agreement.
Great. Thank you. I also want to ask about your processing business, and specifically can you break down your margins for U.S. soy and Canadian canola versus the margins you had in the rest of the world? How did they trend in Q1 versus Q4, and how are they on an absolute basis? Because I guess U.S. soybean historically has been a much stronger performer but may not necessarily be the case in Q1.
Yes. Look, I guess hit the high spots here quickly. We definitely saw if you look at the fact on soy that we’re holding the year, you’ve got to look down into the quarter. So Q1 was better; that caused the over-performance, but unfortunately, things have gotten softer here on the curves as we’ve gone into Q2, and some of that definitely is on open capacity. So crush will be – in soy will be lower in Q2, and then with the crop coming off the curves, we believe it will get better again in Q4. The net of that is the year will be flat. But as often happens in this business, when you’ve got two crops a year coming off and you look at the 12-month cycle, the timing can move around a little bit. And really in soy, the spot crush margins are pretty good everywhere, and the outlook is tougher in the curves except for North America, where we see it getting better with the crop. In soft seeds, North America canola in Canada is much the same; we had a tighter crop there, and the curves get better as we look out to the new crop. In soft seeds in Europe and the Black Sea, both sunseed and rapeseed production were tighter last year, so we got slow farmer selling. With soybean oil being very competitive globally, that has been tough on soft seed crush margins. We look to the new crop this upcoming period for that to improve.
And maybe to put a finer point on that, looking at Q1 versus a year ago, U.S. soy crush margins weren’t dramatically different than they were a year ago for Q1, a little bit lower. The big impact in North America was that soft seed margins were much lower in Q1 versus last year. In terms of soy globally, as Greg mentioned, stronger – probably strongest in Europe in Q1, U.S. is number two, and we had really weak margins in Argentina in Q1, and of course, that is seeing improvement in the spot in Q2 given farmer activity in Argentina. So we’re running harder down there now.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
The next question comes from Tom Palmer with Citi. Please go ahead.
Hi, and thanks for the question. Maybe just to follow-up on the last question on the cadence of earnings. You indicated the pull forward and kind of the Q1, Q2 dynamics and how it especially in North America ramps up a bit to close out the year. But you provided some specifics last quarter talking about 40% of annual earnings coming in the first half of the year. I guess, just any updated thoughts on thinking about the cadence of earnings as we move through this year just given the Q1 dynamics.
Tom, I think – this is John, looking at the year 40-60 really hasn’t changed; first half, second half. What we saw was really a flip between Q1 and Q2 instead of 40-60, it looks to be more 60-40. So we pulled earnings forward from Q2 and expect a little bit of softness in Q2 from our prior forecast. About half that over-performance in Q1 was pulled forward from Q2; the other half we’re seeing some other things go well in Q1, but we’re seeing softness in Q2. So we’re looking at 60, maybe 62-38, if I wanted to put a fine point on it from Q1 to Q2, but the broader first half, second half is the same outlook as we had last quarter.
All right, thank you. And then just on the assumptions embedded in guidance, you did note kind of new crop, better crush margins late in the year as is normal. I wondered about kind of what you’re embedding for other items such as U.S. biofuels policy and potential clarity on the RVO for next year. And then just any thoughts on what you’re embedding for U.S.-China trade relations and how that might impact you as the year progresses. Thanks.
Yes. As a reminder, we don’t have any M&A or share repurchases factored in, and we only assume what we can see in the current tariff situation and the forward curves. So to the point, what the market believes about RVO and the current trade tensions is reflected in the curves. It’s in our forecast and outlook. We’re not making any calls that are different from what the market is telling us.
Thank you for that.
Thanks, Tom.
The next question comes from Manav Gupta with UBS. Please go ahead.
Good morning. I just wanted to focus a little bit on this development with Repsol; it looks like you’re moving forward with it. Help us understand the benefits and why does it make strategic sense to move ahead with Repsol on this kind of JV.
We’re really excited. Repsol is a great partner. They’re making investments in their infrastructure as they’re moving to lower carbon fuels. We’re excited to form the joint venture to be able to help not only with the soy processing assets that went into the JV but in the origination of the lower carbon intensity feedstocks. Some of that is the announcement we made at the same time to bring novel crops to be part of that solution of lower carbon intensity oils to go into their global diesel and SAF process. We’re at the front end of that, but we’re excited. We really want to be the partner of choice in every space that we operate, and that includes working with the fuel industries as they look to put lower carbon fuels into their portfolios.
And Manav, if I just add that while there’s a lot of discussion around uncertainty in U.S. biofuel policy, there’s a lot more certainty than that in Europe and other places. Europe seems very committed to it, and Repsol is part of that commitment. We wanted to be, as Greg pointed out, partnered with someone that we think is in a great position to take advantage of the growing biofuels opportunity in Europe.
Perfect. My quick follow-up is I understand it’s not in your guidance, but there’s a lot of chatter that in the next two or three weeks you could get a much higher revised RVO with a stronger biomass diesel volume. In the event you do get a higher RVO, which is significantly better, how is Bunge going to benefit from it probably in the second half or in 2026 if you could provide some thoughts on it?
Yes. That would definitely strengthen the oil leg of the crush here in North America. And North America, as an exporter of oil, of course, that would help the oil leg globally. So that would be good for crush margins.
And I would note, we’re not very covered for Q3 and Q4. So to the extent the second half margin environment improves, we should be well positioned to take advantage of that. Right now, energy customers are a relatively low percentage of our refined oil volume. So any demand there will be certainly good for our outlook.
Thank you so much.
The next question comes from Heather Jones with Heather Jones Research. Please go ahead.
Thanks for the question.
Good morning.
I wanted to stick with the RVO. I recently – and this was from a conference as well as other things – I’ve heard from some industry watchers that the 5.25 billion gallon D4 headline number that’s been in media reports may not be that high; it may be more in the mid-4s with the backfill opportunity taking you into the 5s. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. A follow-up to that is, do you think that would be enough to make the domestic market much tighter given the limitations that we have on feedstock imports and biofuel imports this year that we didn’t have previously?
Yes. Demand is good, but what I’d like to start with is we are really proud to be part of that first-of-a-kind coalition where we’ve got farmers, large segments, the petroleum refiners, and the crushing industry driving to consensus and advocating for an RVO that’s aligned with what the U.S. can produce. And when I say the U.S., I mean think about the investments that have been made, right? Those are already in place to help the U.S. achieve energy security and dominance and provide a lot of support for rural communities. The farmers have invested; they’ve invested in the land and the machinery, the know-how around the inputs and the crop production. The oil companies invested in converting their plants to biofuels; the crush industry has added production capacity to provide the inputs. So the infrastructure is in place in every part of the supply chain. We can serve the demand right now. This is unused capacity. So this is not aspirational, and that’s been the message. We remain encouraged and optimistic that we’ll get to the right number. If it doesn’t happen right off the bat, the coalition will continue to advocate and continue to explain the facts, the impact that the RVO has on rural America and what it really does to drive value at the farm gate all the way through local economies by adding that domestic demand.
Okay. Thank you for that. And then I wanted to move on to the tariff situation. Clearly, it’s a very dynamic environment, and who knows, it might be very different by next week. But as it sits right now with the tariffs in place with China and the impacts on U.S. beans, how are you thinking about how that impacts Brazilian crush – Brazilian crush margins? And could that potentially – if those dynamics don’t shift quickly, could that potentially slow down the build-out of crush down there?
Yes. Look, to start with, the policy is going to work itself out. We like policies that are good for farmers because that’s good for the entire ag value chain. The markets do work and they send the right signal to farmers and they send the right signal to industry. One of the things we like about our footprint is that whether we’re going to crush more in the U.S. domestically or if exports are lower, that would be offset in Brazil if exports are higher, then we’ll crush less. We’re going to flex our system not only by regions globally, but within those regions between crush and export and other domestic demand. That’s what we love about our balanced footprint.
Heather, when you think about it, there are three things we do in any origin: storage, export, and processing. Depending on what the global markets are telling us from any of those origins, we can either choose to store it, ultimately process it, or export it, depending on what the market is telling us to do. To Greg’s point, we have ultimately good flexibility around whatever the tariff situation ends up being.
Awesome. Thank you so much.
The next question comes from Pooran Sharma with Stephens. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to ask about South America. Do you expect accelerated farmer selling out of South America in the coming months, out of Argentina in the coming months? What would this mean for kind of global crush margins and your footprint?
Yes, in Argentina, I think we talked about pretty slow farmer selling there in Q1. Now, we’ve seen a recent pickup in farmer selling, and that’s been better for margins in Argentina. We’ve adjusted the global footprint a little bit. There’s a temporary lower export tax window that closes late June, along with better weather, which is encouraging the farmers and they’ve lifted some of the capital controls. That’s driving the farmer selling today. We’ll see how long the duration of that goes and how that’ll affect margins. In Brazil, another record soybean crop is anticipated. There’s no take-or-pay this year, which should help improve the value chain performance versus 2024. We’ve also got a big total corn crop coming behind that. From the farmer selling of beans, historically, farmers have marketed more regularly to get ready for the Soberana harvest to free up bin space and deal with some of the logistical timing and coordination that needs to happen.
I appreciate that detail. My follow-up was actually going to be on the take-or-pay. So I appreciate you getting ahead of that. I guess, wanted to perhaps hone in on some of the divestitures you’ve announced with the divestiture of corn milling. Does this just leave you with wheat milling in your milling business? Is it just wheat milling now? And then how should we think about that business when it comes to kind of your core operations as you look ahead?
Yes, correct. We’ve got a strong South American wheat milling business in Brazil. Viterra also has some Brazilian wheat milling. Those footprints fit together very nicely to serve our customers there. We like our position in Brazil's wheat milling business, because not only with the local crop, but we feed that from our Argentine wheat value chain as well as other global wheat markets as they make sense to import into Brazil, which happens quite often. That business is a good fit. We think we’re in a very competitive position for the long term to serve our customers.
Yes. Just to clarify, the first part of your question, our South American wheat milling will be the only thing left from a milling perspective once we close that transaction.
Great. Appreciate the details.
The next question comes from the line of Derrick Whitfield with Texas Capital. Please go ahead.
Good morning all, and thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask a follow-up on Repsol. Could you speak to the amount of camelina and safflower that could be processed as feedstock for their biorefinery or the mix that they’re solving for through this partnership?
Probably too early to give the exact numbers on that, but basically, what we want to do with our energy companies are to give them different choices of the lower CI feedstocks and have multiple novel crops, and even use the cooking oil and other things that we’re sourcing in our portfolio. We can then give them the choice of what works in their machinery for cost, quality, and the carbon intensity that works for them. So what we want to provide is that optionality of feedstocks, and even in these novel crops, then it becomes building the programs and continuing to build the volumes. That’s like winter canola in the U.S. We got started last year and then we’ve seen great uptake by the farmers. We’ve got a lot more acres out there, and so we’ll build these programs in partnership with the demand and with the growers.
Yes. Maybe just one thing, Derrick. Look, we’re not targeting a specific mix of inputs. It’s going to be whatever the market tells us is the most economical. As Greg mentioned, it’s a mix of novel seeds, soybean oil, UCO – all those things are part of the portfolio. The economics are going to drive what the most logical combination of inputs is.
Great. That makes sense. And for my follow-up, I wanted to stay on biofuels. Do you expect a more favorable assessment for SBO and winter canola based on industry feedback and your interaction with the administration on 45Z? There seems to be quite a bit of energy around the inclusion of CSA practices for seed oils.
We’re optimistic, and we’re engaged in that, trying to bring the facts forward and to do what’s good for farmers as well as the entire value chain.
The next question comes from Steven Haynes with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just on U.S. industry crush capacity. I think one of your peers has announced the shutdown of a plant. And so really maybe just kind of two questions. It doesn’t sound like it, but is there anything in your portfolio that you’d be looking to rationalize in the U.S. or North America more broadly? And then how do you expect the rest of the industry to respond to some of the new capacity that’s kind of come online over the last 12 to 18 months?
Yes. Look, we’ve been very thoughtful about our portfolio. Everything we’ve been doing over the last six years is focused on continuous improvement. So where we made our investments, whether it’s been bottlenecking, brownfields, or greenfields, it’s to get our footprint to be the most competitive. We’re running the assets that we’re running now because we plan to. We’ll constantly evaluate that globally, and that’s part of having that global system. Our goal, of course, is to have a cost structure and capabilities built for any point in the cycle. Yes, during the cycle, at the tougher parts, it sends signals and certain people with different cost structures may be shutting down some of these standalone plants. They could have different economics than us running it as part of a network here in the U.S. and as part of our global network. We’re focused on having the most competitive footprint and system for really any point in the cycle; that’s our responsibility.
Okay. Thank you.
The next question from the phone comes from Andrew Strelzik with BMO. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. My first one, you mentioned being open on the majority of your capacity for the back half of the year. I’m just curious if you’re managing or how you’re managing your forward book right now in an environment that’s relatively soft and could look a lot different later in the year. Have you changed that approach at all? I’m just curious how that compares to normal. Any color on that would be great?
Sure. Our team is constantly focusing on our customers on both ends of the value chain and what they’re doing to manage their risk. In this environment, we have seen everybody shift to more spot trading. There’s less done on the forward curves as people don’t know what to do with some of this uncertainty, and so they’ve pulled in. The farmers have been more spot sellers, and the end consumers, whether it’s feed, food, or fuel, unless they’ve got margins, they’ve been more spot buyers. This has led to less of a forward book. We have different ways to manage our risk, and we’re always evaluating what the supply and demand tells us, what the outlook looks like, and where globally we want to be placing our hedges and locking in margins as they occur versus how we believe they will be as indicated by historical data. There’s less on the books right now because we’re looking at what the curves are telling us and what we believe. Part of it is driven by customers on both sides. When you get in that close in, 30 to 90 days, that's when the logistics really drive the activity for all participants in the market. That’s why you’ve got more visibility on the front end, things on the books, and maximized logistics to serve everyone.
Right. Okay. That makes sense. And my second question, and I don’t know if you’ll be able to answer this with any specificity, but I’m just trying to think about the right earnings base for the core business. This year has a ton of disruption that may be abnormal, right, and depressing numbers this year. Is there any way to frame how much you think that is impacted relative to your $7.75 kind of outlook? Is there any way to think about how much that’s impacting the year and what maybe a more normal earnings base would look like? Thanks.
Yes. Look, I think this is John. Certainly, we’re in a little bit more challenging environment this year just given all the uncertainty versus where we would expect to be in a mid-cycle. When we look at that, it’s driven by a more challenging merchandising environment this year, one of the big drivers. As we look to a couple of years later, many of the projects we had slated are still under construction. They haven’t contributed yet, and we didn’t expect those to contribute at this point in time. We’ve made some divestments along the way, and the Russia and Ukraine impacts have pulled our results down from the mid-cycle. Margins have largely held in versus how we’d see mid-cycle. Other than the refining side, those have actually been better, but merchandising has been more challenging for us. On the cost side, we experienced a couple of years of high inflation. Overall, offset to some degree by some of the actions we’ve taken around share buybacks and things. It’s hard to gauge what the $7.75 would be without the current environment we’re in. Certainly, if things improve in the back half of the year, we’ll have a better sense next year of earnings power going forward excluding Viterra, of course, that will have a big impact as we integrate that business. Capital projects will be coming online late 2025 and in 2026, and it will have further impact ongoing. It’s pretty hard to pinpoint what the $7.75 would have been had we not had all this volatility this year.
Sure. I absolutely appreciate that and appreciate the perspective. Thanks.
The next question comes from Ben Theurer with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hi, this is Rahi going on for Ben. I’ve got some timeline questions. First for the milling business, what do you see as a timeline to close? What regulatory processes are we still waiting on, and do you foresee any risk? And also for biofuel, thank you so much for the color on the call. When do you expect an update on that?
In terms of corn milling, we’re hoping it’s purely a U.S. business, so it’ll just need to go through the domestic regulatory process. We feel like we’ve got a chance to get that closed by the end of Q2, latest early Q3 is kind of our view right now.
To predict when you’re going to get an update from the EPA or any other body? Would you expect something from the EPA on volumes?
Yes. I mean it could be any day. We’re thinking by the end of May there’s a good chance that we’ll hear something. Of course, they’re not obligated to come out with anything until later in the year, but they’ve indicated, as near as we can tell, they could do something as early as sometime this month. We’re anxiously watching just like everybody else. Ultimately, I think they’re being very thoughtful. They’re listening, as Greg talked about, the coalition that was put together with farmers and the energy companies and ag companies. They’re listening, so we remain hopeful that they’re formulating the right approach and will come out soon.
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Greg Heckman for any closing remarks.
I’d like to thank everyone for joining us today. Thank you for your interest in Bunge. We continue to have great confidence in our team to be able to deliver for our customers, both farmers and consumers, in whatever challenging environment we’re in. We look forward to speaking with you again soon, and have a great day.
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