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Bloomin' Brands, Inc. Q4 FY2022 Earnings Call

Bloomin' Brands, Inc. (BLMN)

Earnings Call FY2022 Q4 Call date: 2023-02-16 Concluded

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Greetings, and welcome to the Bloomin' Brands Fiscal Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow management's prepared remarks. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mark Graff, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, Mr. Graff. You may begin.

Mark Graff Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning everyone. With me on today's call are David Deno, our Chief Executive Officer; and Chris Meyer, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. By now you should have access to our fiscal fourth quarter 2022 earnings release. It can also be found on our Web site at bloominbrands.com in the Investors section. Throughout this conference call, we will be presenting results on an adjusted basis. An explanation of our use of non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures appear in our earnings release on our Web site as previously described. Before we begin formal remarks, I'd like to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, including a discussion of recent trends. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. Some of these risks are mentioned in our earnings release, others are discussed in our SEC filings which are available at sec.gov. During today's call, we will provide a brief recap of our financial performance for the fiscal fourth quarter 2022, an overview of company highlights, and an update to 2023 guidance. Once we've completed these remarks, we will open up the call for questions. And with that, I'd now like to turn the call over to David Deno.

Well, thank you, Mark, and welcome to everyone listening today. As noted in this morning's earnings release, adjusted Q4 2022 diluted earnings per share was $0.68 which compares to $0.60 in Q4 2021, up 13%. This is also more than double our 2019 results. Combined U.S comparable sales were up 1.4% with each brand having positive same-store sales, despite challenges from weather events at both the beginning and the end of the quarter. We were pleased with our Q4 results and it was the culmination of a year where we successfully navigated significant inflation. During 2022, we made the decision to preserve our value equation and not raise prices to fully offset inflation. While the consumer has remained resilient to date, we believe the short-term decision will have long-term benefits for our customers. In terms of 2022 performance, I would especially like to recognize Fleming’s in Brazil. In 2022, Fleming's comparable same-store sales were up an impressive 12%. This is the second consecutive year of double-digit comp sales growth for Fleming's. Brazil sales were up 38% for the year. Finally, our 2022 results would not have been possible without the talented and dedicated employees at our restaurants and restaurant support center. Your commitment to serving guests with the highest levels of hospitality experience is what makes our restaurants so successful. As we look forward, we will further capitalize on the success of 2022. As you'll see from our guidance for the year and the quarter, we are off to a good start in 2023. To achieve our objectives, these will be our key priorities. First and foremost, drive healthy sales and traffic. We will accomplish this by improving execution and consistency through technology, leveraging proven marketing platforms to drive frequency, introducing new products and new sales layers, and finally wrapping up the remodeling of our restaurants. Let me first talk about the investments we made to improve execution and consistency. We've completed the rollout of handheld technology for our servers. In addition, we continue to roll out new cooking technology including advanced grills and ovens. We will complete the rollout of the new technology in the third quarter. These innovations will further improve guest experiences leading to increased customer preference and frequency. This benefit is in addition to the productivity dollars embedded in our 2023 plan. The second part of building sales and traffic is more targeted marketing designed to build brand equity and drive frequency. Starting in 2023, Outback is bringing back the "No Rules, Just Right" platform, and we are deploying additional marketing dollars to support the launch. But this is more than just marketing. It's an attitude. It's how we reenergize our restaurants with new food offerings, exceptional service, and most importantly, it ties back to our heritage. "No Rules, Just Right" is aimed at highlighting our great menu and the everyday value that we offer to our guests. The third element to our sales building strategy will be the introduction of new sales layers at all of our brands to complement the work being done at Outback. One example is the introduction of a social hour at Fleming's, which caters our wonderful food and drink offerings during the early evening. We also continue to grow our events and catering business within Fleming's and look forward to the innovations coming from this piece of business. Another example is brunch is returning to Bonefish. It is a very successful day part and we brought it back with even better food offerings while providing a good financial return for the company. We'll provide more details and additional sales layers at all of our brands as the year progresses. The final sales driving strategy I want to highlight is the additional emphasis on remodels in 2023. We paused our remodel efforts during the pandemic and have since developed a variety of scopes that we can deploy based on varying needs of our restaurants. We intend to remodel over 100 locations this year as the beginning of a multiyear effort to touch a large percentage of our business. We know keeping our assets looking their best along with our ongoing relocation program is a key element to growing traffic. All this is about bringing restaurant traffic back to pre-pandemic levels. Importantly, these layers are platforms to deliver growth in 2023 and beyond. The second priority for 2023 is to continue expanding our off-premises business which is performing very well. We'll capitalize on our strong carry-out and delivery capabilities. Importantly, the profit margins in this channel are comparable to margins of the in-restaurant business. Catering will remain an important and growing lever for our brands. The Carrabba’s team remains an industry leader in this space and has done a fantastic job. We expect to see more progress out of Outback and Bonefish, knowing both can do a great job in catering. Lastly, we offer significant value through our bundles platform; we expect off-premises to remain a large and growing part of our business. The third priority is to maintain the major progress we have made in operating margin over the last three years and with a highly inflationary environment. As discussed, margin improvement starts with growing healthy traffic across the in-restaurant and off-premises channels. We also reduced reliance on discounting of promotional limited-time offers and pivoted advertising spend towards more targeted high-return digital channels. In addition, we remain disciplined in managing the middle of the P&L and are aggressively pursuing efficiencies in food, labor, and overhead. As Chris will discuss, despite persistent inflation, we've been able to achieve our margins well above 2019. We remain committed to growing to 8% operating margins over the long-term. Our fourth priority is to capitalize on our progress to become a more digitally savvy company. In Q4, approximately 76% of total U.S off-premises sales were through digital channels. In the past year, we implemented a new online ordering system and mobile app to support our digital business. Both have outperformed expectations, and the new app has over 2 million downloads. You can expect to see more activity as we improve the functionality and features of our app and digital offerings. And the final priority is to build more restaurants, especially in Outback, Fleming's, and in Brazil. Each of these brands has strong sales and profit margins and offers great returns. We see major expansion opportunities at Outback, where our goal is to significantly grow our U.S restaurant base. We intend to grow Fleming's from 65 to 100 and plan to more than double our footprint in Brazil. And finally, keep an eye on Carrabba’s. Before turning it over to Chris, I just want to say this kind of expansion would not be possible without major progress on our balance sheet. We significantly reduced debt and our credit ratios are much improved. And today we announced a 71% dividend increase and a new $125 million share repurchase authorization, highlighting the power of our cash flow generation. In summary, 2022 was a good year for our company. We are focused on achieving our 2023 goals while building a great business that will continue to thrive. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Chris, who will provide more detail on Q4 and the full year 2023.

Thanks, Dave, and good morning, everyone. I would like to start by providing a recap of our financial performance for the fiscal fourth quarter of 2022. Total revenues in Q4 were $1.1 billion, which was up 4.6% from 2021, driven by a $33 million increase in international revenue primarily in Brazil, as well as a 1.4% increase in U.S comparable restaurant sales. In our U.S brands, traffic was down 7.3% in Q4, relatively consistent with Q3. Traffic was lowest in November before improving materially in the first three weeks of December. Winter storm Elliott hit in the last week of our fiscal 2022, and it had an approximate 1% impact on our fourth-quarter comp sales. Despite the softer sales trends, our traffic was consistently better than the industry in December. Importantly, our traffic trend has improved significantly over the first seven weeks of 2023. Average check was up 8.7% in Q4 versus 2021. This consisted of a 9.5% menu price increase and a 0.8% decrease in menu mix. Our menu pricing was in line with what we discussed on last quarter's call, but the mix change was lower than anticipated. This change was a product of our limited-time offer activity mixing higher than expected, changes in our appetizer offerings, and strength in our catering business which carries a lower per person check average. At 24% of U.S sales, Q4 off-premises was slightly lower than Q3. Given the emphasis on special occasions, we tend to see this in Q4 and Q1; this change was expected and was primarily a migration from our curbside business to in-restaurant dining. Importantly, the highly incremental third-party delivery business was flat from Q3 at roughly 12% of U.S sales. In terms of brand performance, Outback’s total off-premises mix was 27% of sales, and Carrabba’s was 33% of sales. Off-premises remains sticky and is a large part of our ongoing success. A final note on Q4 sales: Brazil Q4 comps were up 15.3% versus 2021. Brazil's fourth quarter reflected the lapping of COVID-related operating restrictions from 2021. Importantly, comp sales were up 26% versus 2019 levels. Brazil's fourth quarter result was a key component of our success in Q4. As it relates to other aspects of our Q4 financial performance, GAAP diluted earnings per share for the quarter was $0.61 versus $0.59 of diluted earnings per share in 2021. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.68, versus $0.60 of adjusted diluted earnings per share in 2021. It is worth noting that our Q4 result was more than doubled our 2019 adjusted EPS of $0.32. This represented the most profitable fourth quarter in our company's history. The primary difference between our GAAP and adjusted results was Q4 2021 restructuring-related charges and an adjustment for certain collective wage and hour legal cases in Q4 of 2022. Adjusted operating income margin was 8.2% in Q4 versus 7.8% in 2021. Margins improved year-over-year as inflation levels mitigated from the historically high levels earlier in 2022. Commodity inflation was 10% in Q4, driven by some favorability in our beef contracting, while labor inflation was 8%, which was 90 basis points better than it was in Q3. In addition, we had benefits from pricing, productivity, and incentive compensation. These benefits more than offset the unfavorable impacts from inflation. Overall, our controls on costs remain tight. Our operating margin was 400 basis points better than it was in Q4 of 2019. Our Q4 restaurant margin of 16.8% was 290 basis points better than 2019. We continue to benefit from simplified menus and operations, growth in our international business efficiencies and overhead, as well as increased average check. Depreciation expense and general and administrative expenses were both up in Q4 relative to last year. This is consistent with our increased levels of capital spending and our investments in infrastructure to support growth. Also in Q4, our adjusted tax rate was 15%. Turning to our capital structure, total debt was $833 million at the end of the year, and as of today, we are down to total debt of $760 million. This puts our current lease adjusted leverage ratio below 3x. We have made tremendous progress on reducing our debt since 2019. For perspective, our debt balance at the end of 2018 was $1.1 billion. In terms of share repurchases, we repurchased 5.4 million shares in 2022 for a total of $110 million. We have repurchased another $14 million of stock year-to-date, and our Board has approved another $125 million authorization that we expect to make significant progress on in 2023. We have also increased our quarterly dividend from $0.14 a share to $0.24 a share. This 71% increase in our dividend provides a very attractive yield to our investors and is a strong signal about our confidence in the strength of our free cash flow. We expect 2023 to mark the second consecutive year where we have returned approximately $150 million to shareholders. Returning cash to shareholders is an important part of our story in 2023 and beyond. Importantly, we're able to increase the dividend, buy back stock, pay down debt, and have ample cash available to either invest in our growth initiatives or invest back into our people. Before I turn to our guidance, I wanted to spend a minute discussing a legislative action in Brazil that has a unique impact on our company. In 2022, the Brazilian government enacted legislation that introduced a 0% rate for both corporate income taxes as well as certain federal gross revenue taxes known as PIS and COFINS. This benefit will last for a period of five years. This exemption is intended to provide relief for industries most severely impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Through a favorable ruling, the courts in Brazil determined that our Brazilian business is eligible for this exemption. As we've discussed on prior calls, our Brazilian business had a two-year period of significant negative impacts from COVID-19. The material benefits from this tax exemption will start to impact our earnings this year, and we estimate that this exemption will provide an approximate $0.25 benefit to our 2023 earnings per share. As I indicated, this benefit will manifest in two distinct ways in our Brazilian financial results. First, we assessed revenue taxes on certain goods and services known as PIS and COFINS taxes. We will be exempt from paying PIS and COFINS taxes for a period of five years. The benefit to operating income is expected to be approximately $17 million, with an approximate $40 million increase in revenue offset by $23 million of expense, primarily lost tax credits split equally between COGS, labor, and operating expenses. This operating income benefit is exempt from corporate income tax in Brazil. Second, we will also have a 0% corporate tax rate on the income generated by our Brazilian business. This five-year exemption from corporate income tax in Brazil will be partially offset by minimum taxes imposed by the U.S on multinational companies. In total, this corporate tax exemption is expected to generate an additional $6 million of benefit in 2023. The combined benefit of the $17 million of PIS and COFINS exemption and the $6 million of corporate tax benefit will represent an approximate $23 million increase in our net income or $0.25 of earnings per share. This exemption is not a one-time benefit. These impacts will be embedded in our financial statements each of the next five years. As such, they will be included in both our GAAP and adjusted results. Should the Brazilian government or court system alter this legislation or our eligibility for it in the future, we will be sure to properly disclose the corresponding impacts. In our earnings release, we provided a reconciliation of our earnings per share guidance both before and after the benefits of this exemption. In addition, keep in mind that for Bloomin' Brands, fiscal 2023 will be a 53-week year. The 53rd week will be December 25, 2023 through December 31, 2023. Although we are closed on Christmas, the remaining six days in this 53rd week are very high-volume sales days. We expect the impact of the 53rd week to be approximately $0.14 of EPS. Now turning to our 2023 guidance. First, we expect U.S comparable restaurant sales to be between 2% and 4% on a 52-week basis. This includes a full-year check average benefit of approximately 5% with traffic reflecting a more uncertain view on the macro environment. Should the consumer behave more like what we have seen earlier this year, there could be a better outcome on traffic in 2023. Next, we expect GAAP diluted earnings per share to be between $2.80 and $2.89. And we expect adjusted diluted earnings per share to be between $2.91 and $3. Our EPS guidance includes the benefits from the Brazil tax exemption and the 53rd week. Modeling labor inflation is expected to be in the mid-single digits range. We are currently 60% locked on our overall commodity basket. Oil, dairy, produce, and grains are expected to be the most inflationary categories. Beef is 100% locked, and we expect beef inflation to be in line with our mid-single digits broader commodity range. Lobster, chicken, and pork are expected to be deflationary this year. We've seen year-over-year wage inflation slowly come down and we would expect that to continue in 2023, with the second half of the year being better than the first half. Our inflation estimates would make 2023 the second most inflationary year in the history of our company. For this reason, we have spent significant time identifying productivity opportunities in our restaurants. From the technology enhancements at Outback to product utilization and sourcing ideas in our supply chain, we're targeting $50 million of productivity benefits in 2023. We also expect the benefits from these initiatives to build as the year progresses and provide ongoing incremental benefit into 2024. Given the benefits of check average and productivity as well as the new benefits from both the Brazil tax legislation and the 53rd week, 2023 should be a year of operating margin expansion from 2022. This expectation comes despite persistent levels of inflation. Our effective income tax rate is expected to be between 13% and 15%. Capital expenditures are expected to be between $240 million and $260 million. This is an increase from our 2022 spend of $220 million due to additional dollars allocated towards new restaurants and remodels. Finally, we expect to open 30 to 35 system-wide restaurants. We began ramping up our domestic new restaurant capabilities in mid-2022, with an emphasis on Outback and Fleming's to complement our already strong growth in Brazil. Our new restaurant pipeline continues to fill, and we expect 2024 to be when we see a material jump in the number of restaurants opened. As it relates to the first quarter, we expect U.S comparable restaurant sales to be up between 3% and 5%. Through seven weeks of Q1, we have seen traffic favorability greater than what the lapping benefits from Omicron and unfavorable weather in 2022 would have suggested. We do expect our sales to level out some to finish Q1, as we begin to lap sales strength from last year, beginning with Valentine's Day. This has been contemplated in our guidance. We expect Q1 adjusted earnings per share to be between $0.85 and $0.90. This guidance and future guidance will include the benefits from the tax exemption in Brazil. One final note before I open up the call for questions. For the past eight years, Mark Graff has been my partner in communicating our strategy to investors. He has been an excellent ambassador for Bloomin' Brands. As many of you know, last year, Mark was promoted to Senior Vice President of Business Development and is charged with igniting our development engine. As that task gains traction, it is time for Mark to step aside from his IR responsibilities. I am pleased to announce that Tammy Dean will now lead our day-to-day investor relations efforts. As Senior Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Finance, Tammy brings over 15 years of experience at Bloomin' Brands to the role. She has held finance positions at all of our casual dining brands and is the perfect choice to lead our IR function moving forward. Mark will be introducing Tammy to our coverage analysts over the next several weeks. Congratulations to both Mark and Tammy. So in summary, this was another successful year for Bloomin' Brands, and we are well on our way to becoming a better, stronger, operations-focused company. And with that, we will open up the call for questions.

Operator

The first question today is coming from Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you very much and congrats to Mark and Tammy. My initial question is just on comps. For the fourth quarter, it looks like Outback, you had pricing up close to 10, you had traffic down 9, hence the 1% positive comp that was below seemingly what the street was looking for and I think what you guys had even implied for the fourth quarter. I know you mentioned weather was a one-point headwind, but it would seem like there was a shortfall even beyond that. So I'm just wondering if you could talk about why the shortfall, whether it was a conscious decision on your part to kind of weed out value and lower-end consumers who perhaps weren't as profitable or whether there was further disruption. Obviously, trends did accelerate thus far this year, but that we know has a lot to do with the lapse. I'm just wondering if you can provide some context around the comp shortfall and traffic being down like 9%. And then I had one follow-up.

Yes, yes, sure. Jeff, this is Chris. Good morning. So as it relates to Q4, as you know, our brands tend to skew special occasion. And we do have a disproportionate impact from weather in that last week of the fourth quarter. So that winter storm Elliott was a 1% negative impact on our Q4 sales, and obviously that wasn't contemplated when we prepared our guidance. In addition, I'd say the check average, that mix that with the positive menu mix that we've been running positive for most of the year, certainly into October, that turned negative in November. But as I said in the prepared remarks, I think that was probably more a byproduct of our push, strong push into catering, as well as some of the limited-time offer activity mixing better than expected. But certainly the mix change going from positive to negative was something that we hadn't expected to manifest. Finally, I'd say traffic was softer in November. But importantly, as it relates to our overall trend and the trajectory we're on, it improved pretty significantly in December. We put a number of initiatives in place in November to drive traffic; those initiatives were taking hold. We had positive trends in December, and then of course, that last week of weather hit. The good news is, even from the momentum we were building in December, that has further expanded in January, and our momentum got even better. So, look, I think we feel pretty good about the trajectory we're on. But hopefully that gives some context on how the Q4 comp came together.

Jeff mentioned that traffic trends in Q1 are improving, better than expected given the impact of Omicron and the weather. The strategies discussed in the prepared remarks are aligning well across all our brands. We are optimistic about our traffic trends, and this positivity is reflected in our guidance. The momentum we saw starting in December has continued into January and February, with traffic increases that exceed the comparisons to a weaker previous year due to Omicron and weather conditions.

Speaker 4

Understood. And then my follow-up was just on the commodity outlook. In the last quarter, I think you said you thought maybe mid-single-digit to high-single-digit for full-year '23. Now you've tempered that to mid-single-digit, which I understand most commodities are easing. But beef was the surprise, at least to us. I know you mentioned, I think you're 100% locked on beef. And that's coming in mid-single-digit right in line with your overall basket. Just wondering if you could provide any context around that. I know there's lots of expectation in the industry that beef, while easing short-term, is likely to accelerate meaningfully into inflation later this year and into next year with supply chain issues and whatnot. So I'm just wondering how you were able to secure that 100% in mid-single-digit? And what your thoughts are, as we move towards the end of '23 and into '24, whether that would be a year where therefore you would likely see an acceleration in that inflation. Thank you.

Sure. Yes. So I'll give you some context on the commodity guide, and where we think we are overall on beef. We are locked, as we said, 60% on the overall basket. Typically, we would probably be a little more locked at this point in time. And look, the reality is, is we do see that there could be certain upsides in certain areas as the year progresses, and we want to be able to take advantage of those. But to your point, we are 100% locked on beef. And as I said in the prepared remarks, that beef inflation is in line with sort of the mid-single digits broader commodity range. Look, the beef market is moving just like we thought. We talked about this last time, hey, look, there's going to be sort of a supply imbalance, you're going to see less product available in the marketplace; that's going to put pressure on pricing. You've seen it in the spot markets as prices have started increasing in December and into January. So that movement's been exactly like we thought. Like we tell you guys, in November, we started having conversations about locking in on beef. We feel like we have an excellent supply chain team. We feel like locking in mid-single digits is a great place to land. It gives us price assurance; it gives us supply assurance. In this marketplace, that's a pretty good place to be. In terms of the other market, basket commodities, I think bread, grains, certainly those will be challenged this year. Cooking oils, soybean oil, that's all inflationary. But we're pretty open on things like cooking oil. Hopefully, we can have some upside on that as well as the year progresses. Produce is going to be very weather dependent. So that's going to ebb and flow. And freight should be better as well. So it isn't just a beef story as it relates to our basket. But certainly when you look at that mid-single-digit number, we're pretty pleased with the work we've done.

Speaker 4

Understood. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from Alex Slagle of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning and congrats.

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Just wanted to dig into some of the future productivity opportunities. You called out an opportunity for $50 million in savings in '23, which is pretty significant. Just wanted to see if you could kind of talk to a couple of the bigger initiatives there and highlight a few for us.

Yes, I'll give some of the broader strokes, and turn it over to Chris to talk about some of the financials. But we talked for a while now about our technology initiatives, and they have come together on time, as expected. So the handhelds at Outback are rolled out. The ovens and the cooking technology and the grills at Outback are set to finish in the middle of the third quarter. That has really come together for us and has led to more productivity for us. The supply chain team, of course, has continued to do a great job in our food supply and productivity there without compromising food quality, very importantly. So I'll turn it over to Chris for any other context on the financials.

Well, the only context I'd add above and beyond that is, as we have talked about these technology initiatives, they would provide a financial return. And if you think about our productivity this year, this $50 million target, that's pretty much doubled what we did from a productivity perspective in 2022; and the biggest chunk of that increase is coming from this technology initiative that we put in place both in the front of the house and in the back of the house. And importantly, another thing to keep in mind as it relates to this is that it's not just a 2023 thing. We're not going to have all this equipment in place until the middle of the year. So there is going to be a pretty good tail going into 2024 as well in terms of productivity. We're in pretty good shape. The last thing I would add is, and the Outback team certainly knows this, we expect sales gains as a result of this as well over time. As we have as our recooks diminish and our customer service improves, as our table turns improve, that will boost sales and it boosts our operating metrics. So it's more than just a financial productivity upside for us in the P&L. It's also a sales-building activity that we expect to capture.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from Lauren Silberman of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Just on the first one for operating margins, you talked about 2023 being a year of margin expansion. Can you just walk through the puts and takes of the guide to get there?

Yes, sure. So, well, let me do this. Let's talk about margins on an apples-to-apples basis for a minute. So exclude the benefit of this Brazilian tax exemption and exclude the benefit of the 53rd week. So it makes it more clear. First, the bad news. So even with inflation coming off of last year's record levels, as I said, it's still shaping up to be really inflationary this year. If 2022 had, call it, $300 million of inflationary headwinds, 2023 will have like $200 million. It's still pretty high. That's close to 500 basis points of margin pressure just from inflation alone. But on the flip side, right, you have an estimated 5% increase in average check that we discussed, as well as the $50 million of productivity that should be largely able to offset inflation. From there, the margin story is pretty simple. It's all going to come down to traffic, right. Now we built a negative traffic assumption into our 2023 plan, driven largely by an uncertain macro environment, that would lead to a slightly negative outcome on operating margin this year versus 2022 on an apples-to-apples basis. Now, if that negative traffic doesn't manifest, and we've talked about how we started the year, I could have a better margin outcome this year, compared to where we were last year. Importantly, though, at the restaurant level, I feel pretty good about keeping my restaurant margin flat to slightly positive versus last year. Now I'm going to lose a little bit on depreciation and perhaps a small amount on G&A. That's why the operating margin might be a little more challenged than my restaurant margin this year. But again, it's important to not just provide context for 2023. If you're looking fast-forward and say, okay, what about 2024, a couple of things are going to change. First, inflation should be less. Second, we're going to have a decent amount of rollover from these productivity initiatives. As Dave indicated in the prepared remarks, marching back closer to that 8% target seems far more in reach. Now, it's important, though, also to keep in mind that the 53rd week as well as this Brazilian tax exemption are both margin accretive. It's reasonable to expect when you include those that you're going to have operating margin expansion in 2023.

I just want to provide a longer-term context to it: we've had sustainable margin gains since 2019. If you look back in our history, we expect to continue that going forward, like Chris laid out so eloquently. It's all there for us, and we're committed to the 8% margin long-term, which is a huge increase; that's where we were as a company a few years ago.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you. Incredibly helpful. And then just a follow-up on that traffic piece and the expectation for negative traffic. Given the macro, what opportunities or levers exist that are in your control on the traffic side that you are considering? Or that you’re implementing?

We highlighted in our prepared remarks several insights gained during the pandemic and throughout 2022. Firstly, sales layers are crucial for us. Whether it's adopting the "No Rules, Just Right" concept at Outback or enhancing our marketing strategies, this encompasses operations, product offerings, and the overall atmosphere in our restaurants. Additionally, we have introduced a refreshed social hour at Fleming's during the early evening, which is proving to be a valuable sales layer. We're also bringing back brunch at Bonefish and have significant wine opportunities at Carrabba's. All these elements are controllable aspects of our sales. Another point is that we have not raised our prices as aggressively in response to inflation compared to some competitors, which we believe will benefit our traffic trends in the long run. Additionally, we've learned the importance of providing consumers with pricing certainty, like at Bonefish, where discovery is offered for a set price, and Outback is currently featuring appealing options at specific price points. These are aspects we can manage to enhance traffic. As Chris mentioned, if the macroeconomic environment turns out to be less concerning than anticipated, we see potential for positive adjustments to our traffic expectations, but we will have to wait and see.

Just to piggyback off of that, importantly, when you're talking about specific price points on offerings, that doesn't necessarily have to mean it's a deeply discounted offer. In fact, we're able to do those offers at a price point that can at minimum hold margin steady.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi. Thank you very much. It's interesting to hear about "No Rules, Just Right" I mean, just kind of like the return of that, I guess, brand promise. So, I mean, a big part of the margin expansion for the entire industry versus 2019 was the reduction of advertising, reduction of menu items, simplification, kind of in the kitchen that allowed for a much more efficient operation overall. Are we now kind of entering the point where it makes sense to bring back limited-time offers, bring back some new news in the kitchen, bring back advertising? I mean, are we kind of at the start, if you will, of a slippery slope to where cost need to be added back to the business because others are doing that as well?

Yes, a couple of things, John. "No Rules, Just Right" can be executed with the continued menu simplification that we've had. We don't anticipate a whole bunch of new product offerings and complexity in the kitchen. And as you know, with the new grills and things at Outback, that simplifies our kitchen even more. So that's number one. Number two, yes, we are increasing our marketing spend. But it's not going to be anywhere near what it was in 2019. We've learned a lot during the pandemic, how to access our customers, the digital opportunity, how to target customers. That margin opportunity and advertising is going to remain as we build sales. The fundamental benchmarks that we learned during the pandemic, John, are not going away. We're just going back to a heritage and a slogan that was so popular; it works so well for us at Outback. So that's how we're trying to build this thing.

Speaker 7

And let me ask about remodels. I think you said you're doing 100, which is actually a pretty big percent of the U.S Outback system. I mean, it's been said in the past that you don't get credit for an interior remodel unless you do an exterior remodel. Of course, an exterior remodel costs, especially in 2023 a lot of money and takes a lot of time. So you talk about what the remodels will look like, what kind of gain that you're expecting, and if these projects are going to be really attractive to people to come back and dine in the restaurant, which is obviously where you have the most capacity or potential to add people.

Yes. First of all, it's 50 at Outback and 50 the other two casual dining brands plus Fleming's. So that gets to the 100, okay. But we really sculpt out a light touch, a medium touch, and a heavy touch in our remodel. We know keeping that interior restaurant fresh is so important. As we do the interiors, we will do some exterior work to touch it up to make sure people know. Plus, what we have is a digital marketing piece that we can talk about as we go into these markets and do the remodel. It's freshening up the restaurant. On an interior basis, we have three separate scopes. We certainly have the capital and cash flow to do this, and it involves all of our brands with 50 at Outback. Any financial measures, I'll turn it over to Chris to talk about.

I want to emphasize that while we don't anticipate a significant increase in sales from an interior remodel, a 2% to 3% boost would be quite beneficial for us. More importantly, as Dave mentioned, this isn’t merely about maintenance. If we fail to keep our assets up-to-date, we risk facing challenges in same-store sales. Ensuring our assets remain current is essential not only for this year but also for our future operations.

John, it's a holistic effort; it's operations, it's marketing, it's remodels, it all comes together holistically. That's what we're trying to talk about with the sales layers.

Speaker 7

I got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from Jeff Farmer of Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks. I might have missed it, but did you guys provide any specifics on G&A or interest expense dollars for full-year 2023?

We didn't. But I can give you a little bit of context. You're looking G&A and D&A, is that what you said?

Speaker 8

G&A and interest expense.

General and administrative expenses are expected to increase by approximately $10 million to $15 million in 2023, remaining flat as a percentage of sales for a few reasons. We made significant investments in IT and our development team that will reflect a full run rate this year. We also invested back into our workforce, which we considered crucial, and we filled several vacancies during the year. Additionally, we had some incentive compensation adjustments. Therefore, several factors will contribute to the rise in general and administrative expenses this year. Regarding depreciation and amortization, it will also increase this year, mainly in line with our growing capital expenditures. Interest expense is anticipated to be flat or slightly down. While interest rates have risen, we managed to retire some hedges last year, which provided a benefit as we entered 2023. However, a portion of that benefit has been offset by the rising rate environment, leading us to expect interest expense to remain flat or slightly decrease.

Speaker 8

That's helpful. And then just one additional one, which is, you guys did touch on it. But as consumer backdrops have become more challenging, just a little bit more strained for some discretionary spending, are you seeing shifts in relative same-store sales performance across your multiple channels? Meaning the in-restaurant to-go and delivery channels have seen any sort of shifting of behaviors amongst those three channels?

It's a little tough read. Because we skew special occasion. When you're really busy in Q4 and Q1, you do see a decline in sort of your off-premises mix. We've seen that a little bit here in the first quarter. Overall, we think that's mostly just trade between our curbside business back into the in-restaurant piece. But no real commentary on kind of the consumer or third-party business, which is a slightly different consumer from an off-premises perspective, is hanging in there; it's a little down in Q1 versus where it was in Q4, but it's still pretty steady. That is a different kind of consumer. Overall, the shifting between channels isn't really driving a significant amount of what we think is reflective of kind of where the consumer is. It feels more just like engineered channel movement.

The high-end continues to do really well. Fleming's continues to do really well within that high-end. That’s a consumer that we're going to continue to pursue, and I talked about some of the sales layers there.

Speaker 8

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Sara Senatore. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, I think, Sara Senatore, just want to make sure. I am just curious if I could ask a few follow-up and then a quick question. The follow-up is, if you could just talk about January. I think widely, the industry seems to have improved trends. Are you still maintaining your traffic gap that you talked about? Or is this sort of kind of a rising tide? So any insight onto relative performance given how robust it's been for you, but I think also some trends we're seeing across the board. And then I wanted to ask about kind of your thoughts on pricing. It sounds like pricing will be pretty much in line with inflation in 2023 after having run, I think, behind inflation in 2022. So I guess, do you have sort of a philosophy about where those two sit? Would you use that as an opportunity to whether reinvest in the quality or the quantity of food? Just how are you thinking about that sort of more normalized relationship between price and inflation? Thank you.

Yes, sure. I'll take the first part. I'm not going to comment in detail on weekly trends in February. But I can say overall, for the quarter, we remain very happy with how we stand in our traffic trends for our company and versus the industry. So I'll leave it at that for now. And I'll turn the second part over to Chris.

Yes, I agree with your observation; this year presents a more balanced situation regarding our pricing and the inflation we are experiencing. We are very attentive to the price value equation, and how we manage that going forward is a significant factor in our decision-making. We don’t believe we can implement substantial price increases this year. We want to be careful and strategic. The positive aspect is that we didn't raise prices in 2020, and we made only minimal increases in 2021. Our approach to buying commodities has generally worked to our advantage. Compared to 2019, our average check is lower than the industry average on that measure. We believe we have positioned ourselves favorably while still addressing the inflationary pressures. Instead of reinvesting those additional dollars, we think this will eventually benefit us in terms of customer traffic as we progress through this year and into the next. Thus, we will be a bit more cautious with our pricing. We do have some pricing adjustments from Q3 and Q4 this year. We plan to take a wait-and-see approach regarding whether we will implement similar pricing for the rest of the year. Ideally, we would prefer not to raise prices at all.

The last thing I'd add is there's another way to get value to our customer, and we talked about this with each of our brands, and that's continued to improve our service levels in our restaurants; we're seeing very good trends there. Providing value to our customers as our service levels improve, and the technology that we've invested to make that happen is an important part of our value equation going forward.

Speaker 9

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from Jon Tower of Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Clarifications, questions. So first clarification, the $50 million in productivity gains, is that run rate? Or should we expect to see that all hit in '23?

No, that's all in 2023. It'll ramp up a bit as the year progresses, because we don't have all of the kitchen equipment in yet at Outback that will be done in early into the third quarter there. So it'll ramp up as the year progresses. But it'll all be $50 million this year.

Speaker 10

Got it. And then I'm just trying to wrap my head around the traffic at Outback in particular. It sounds like this year, you're guiding for a fairly conservative outlook on traffic because of the macro backdrop. At the same time, you've got a lot going on with the brand. And frankly, the company from productivity gains and/or initiatives at the store level to improve throughput, as well as incremental marketing, including the "No Rules, Just Right". I guess I'm just trying to understand, are you guys trying to layer in a level of conservatism or in your guidance for traffic? Or is there something you've seen in your business that's fundamentally altered kind of the traffic cadence for the customer? And you feel it's going to be difficult to get back to the pre-COVID levels of traffic?

No, I don't think that it's difficult at all. I believe we are being careful in our guidance, considering the macro environment. We feel very positive about what we can control, and we've clearly outlined that today along with our objectives. We also have not increased prices like some of our competitors have, which is why we are optimistic about traffic. However, we need to be mindful of pacing and sequencing as well as the macro environment. We don’t want to move too fast. Overall, we feel confident about the strategies we've implemented regarding pricing as we move forward.

If you look at our traffic guide or implied traffic guide this year relative to where we were last year, it does suggest a pretty decent increase from where traffic was in 2022.

Speaker 10

Got it. And then just lastly, David, I was hoping maybe you can speak to the Board's decision around upping the dividend rather than say increasing the buyback even further; the numbers are pretty big today. I'm curious to learn what the discussions were.

The main thing is return cash to shareholders, and invest in our growth opportunities and pay down debt. That just shows the power of the cash flow of our company. As we talked about it, we looked at various levers. If you look back, prior to the pandemic, we were basically a little bit less than this level. This dividend increase gets us back to where we were prior to the pandemic. We feel that the surety of dividends, and what it looks like for our shareholders is really an attractive thing, as we continue to have a new share repurchase authorization and we pay down debt. I'll turn over Chris for any other thoughts on that, since he's been such a big architect of this issue.

We're able to offer an attractive yield with the dividend while maintaining a relatively low payout ratio, which provides us with significant flexibility. It's not a matter of choosing one over the other; we can manage both the dividend and implement a strong share repurchase program. We believe we can reduce additional debt this year, especially considering the rising interest rate environment, which makes debt reduction a sensible strategy. There are many options available to us with this flexibility. As always, we emphasize that understanding our free cash flow story is crucial for investors.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is coming from Dennis Geiger of USB. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Thank you. Dave and Chris, I wanted to come back to the discounting promo activity commentary that you made. Is there anything more that you can share on the latest thoughts on discounting activity, or the lack of discounting? How you're thinking about discounts in '23 relative to last year, and depending on how traffic trends progress through the year?

We do not believe that we need to depend on discounting to influence traffic trends. We operate in a market where this phenomenon is not prevalent, and we are continuing to shape our strategies accordingly. Importantly, some of our core menu items provide significant value to our customers without the need for extensive discounts and with stable pricing. Therefore, you should not expect to see an arbitrary increase in discounting efforts to boost the traffic we are discussing.

Speaker 11

Great. I appreciate that. And then just one more. As you talk about continuing to improve service levels, can you talk a little bit about where kind of staffing, team continuity, and training are right now and sort of overall where you are from an operations perspective? And really how much of an opportunity operations and the service enhancements can be as we think about traffic and sales? Thank you.

We are blessed with a very tenured team with turnover trends less than the industry. Now part of that was the conscious decision that our company made during the pandemic not to let people go. We had a trained group of people ready to go when the restaurants reopened. Our goal is to improve service levels through investments in technology and capitalize on the tenure and leadership and training in our restaurants.

Speaker 11

Sounds good. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Andrew Strelzik of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Good morning. I appreciate the opportunity to ask a question. I wanted to inquire about Brazil. It made a positive contribution this quarter, and I would like an update on the operating conditions there. Specifically, what trends are you observing in consumer behavior, inflation, and supply? Additionally, I am interested in your thoughts on the margin potential for that business as we work towards the longer-term goals you have mentioned. Thank you.

Sure. Our Brazil team and a lot of businesses went through a lot during COVID. They've come back in a very good way. The restaurant sales were good in the quarter; the operating margins were good in the quarter. We have a really strong management team down there, and they've come through it in a very good way. As we look at the operating environment going forward, hopefully the election is behind us, and we can move forward in the country and continue to grow our business as we recover, and other businesses recover from what we experienced during COVID. We do feel good about our business down there, and the growth and the cash flow and the sales it provides.

Operator

Thank you. Our last question today is coming from Brian Vaccaro of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hi. Thanks and good morning. I wanted to go back to the productivity, and can you remind us of how many units have the full equipment package today across the server handhelds, KDS and the cooking equipment? And then could you provide some more color and maybe even quantify some of the benefits you expect to yield from it? Is there any way you can ballpark labor or waste savings, or perhaps it's mostly a throughput or sales benefit you expect to see?

All the handhelds are in at Outback. KDS was in and were in about half the restaurants on the cooking equipment, and they'll be done in Q3. Before the financials, I'll turn it over to Chris to talk about some of the productivity opportunities there. I just want to underscore once again, it'll go long-term with greater service levels and more accurate cooking that, especially the grills provide. We expect to build sales and traffic in our restaurants at Outback. I'll turn over to Chris.

Yes, if you examine the productivity numbers, we've transitioned from about $25 million to $50 million this year. The $25 million increase includes a significant portion from the supply chain, but most of it will be driven by technology enhancements in our restaurants. On the profit and loss statement, this will primarily affect the cost of sales, though some will also impact the labor line, particularly regarding the front-of-house technology we’re implementing. As we see a reduction in recooks, the complimentary meals will slightly reduce our sales figures; however, we will also experience an increase in sales. While this increase may not be significant enough to alter your comparable sales assumptions, it will still be notable, amounting to millions of dollars. This effect will also manifest over time. The best part about the technology is that it offers long-term advantages. It won’t yield immediate results, but will gradually become effective, which is very promising. The encouraging news is that the locations that have been using this technology for a while are performing exceptionally well. We are pleased with our progress.

Speaker 13

That's helpful. Regarding pricing, I understand that an average check increase of about 5% is included in your guidance. Can you clarify when you last adjusted pricing? Also, if no further pricing changes are implemented, how do you expect the quarterly performance to trend over the next few quarters across the business?

We'd like to be in a position now where we don't have to take any more pricing from here until the end of the year. Even that is like we want to have optionality on that. If you think about it, we should be over 7% or so at least through the first couple of quarters. The big price increases we took in Q3 of last year that we're in the lap, we have to make a decision then how much do you want to place in those numbers. Right now, in our current guidance, we're assuming, call it, a 6% annual price increase with negative mix, maybe call it a point to get you to that 5% overall. That does assume there's going to be some level of pricing taken in the back half of the year, but we could have a little bit less pricing if we don't need it, and like I talked about earlier.

Speaker 13

All right. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Deno for closing comments.

Yes, I want to thank everybody for calling in today. We appreciate it. I want to welcome Tammy to the Investor Relations team. She's going to be a good partner and a good partner to all of you. I want to say how important the new unit opportunity for us is in the company. I'm fortunate that we have such a great leader in Mark Graff to make that happen. More to follow in this space, and we'll be talking to you over the coming weeks. Thanks, everybody.

Operator

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