Centerpoint Energy Inc Q3 FY2021 Earnings Call

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to CenterPoint's earnings conference call. David Lesar, our CEO, Jason Wells, our CFO, will discuss the Company's Third Quarter 2021 results. Management will discuss certain topics that will contain projections and other forward-looking information and statements that are based on management's beliefs, assumptions, and information currently available to management. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks or uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially based upon various factors as noted in our Form 10-Q, on our SEC filings, and our earnings materials. We undertake no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements. We will also discuss non-GAAP EPS, referred to as utility EPS, earnings guidance, and our utility earnings growth target. In providing these financial performance metrics and guidance, we use a non-GAAP measure of adjusted diluted earnings per share. For information on our guidance methodology in the reconciliation of non-GAAP measures used in providing guidance, please refer to our earnings news release and presentation. Both of which can be found under the Investors section on our website. As a reminder, we may use our website to announce material information. This call is being recorded. Information on how to access the replay can be found on our website. Now, I would like to turn the discussion over to Dave.

Thank you, Phil. Good morning, and thank you to everyone joining us for our third quarter 2021 earnings call. Because we recently hosted our Analyst Day, we will keep our prepared remarks brief today. As you know, we laid out our first-ever 10-year plan back at our Analyst Day. We expressed then and are reiterating today that we are a management team who can execute. We believe we will continue to demonstrate that for you. This marks my sixth quarter with CenterPoint and Jason's fifth. I'd like to first start by laying out how we are building a consistent track record of delivery. First, if you recall the CenterPoint value proposition we laid out at our recent Analyst Day, it focused on our efforts to achieve sustainable earnings growth for our shareholders. Sustainable, resilient, and affordable rates for our customers, and a sustainable positive impact on the environment for our communities. I believe we are continuing down the path of achieving this value proposition. Each quarter under the new CenterPoint leadership, we have met or exceeded quarterly utility EPS and dividend expectations. We have increased our annual utility EPS guidance for both 2020 and 2021. And as I will discuss shortly, today, we are increasing our 2021 utility EPS guidance once again. Our 2021 through 2024 annual utility EPS growth rates of 8% are top decile among our peers. And we also expect to achieve at the mid to high end of our 6% to 8% utility EPS guidance range each year from 2025 to 2030. I am confident in our team's ability to achieve that growth. Last year, we had a $130-billion five-year capital plan. We increased that to $16 billion in our 2020 Analyst Day. In this year, we increased it yet again to $18 billion plus. We introduced our first-ever 10-year capital plan. CenterPoint remains ripe with opportunities across our footprint to expand and harden our system to benefit customers and shareholders. Our current 10-year plan contains no external equity issuances. We will fund the equity portion of our capital needs through internally-generated operating cash flows and already announced strategic transactions. We're also executing on our plan to become a pure play regulated utility as we approach the closing of the Enable merger expected by the end of this year. And then our subsequent sell-down of our midstream stake. With the recent settlement agreement among the parties in Arkansas, we are also moving towards the completion of our LDC asset sale. The remaining steps include the Oklahoma approval, which is anticipated to be received in November, and the all-party settlement in Arkansas is expected to be approved by mid-December. With our newest announcement around our industry-leading ESG targets, we are on the path to executing our goals to be net zero on direct emissions by 2035. We continue to believe that this is an achievable path delivering for customers, regulators, investors, and the environment. In the third quarter of 2020, I said that I will not be satisfied until we are recognized as a premium utility. The theme of our Analyst Day was again establishing a path toward a premium. I believe we are making tremendous strides down that path. Before I get into the headlines for this quarter, I want to thank all of the crews for their hard work to restore power after Hurricane Nicholas down here in the Texas Gulf Coast. The storm had winds of up to 90 miles an hour, leaving 470,000 of our Houston Electric customers without power. Within three days, we had 95% of the power restored for those customers. And within five days, the whole system was back online. Now, for this quarter's headlines. Our year-to-date financial progress has been strong. We are reporting a utility EPS beat and are raising our full-year outlook this quarter. For the third time this year, we are increasing our 2021 utility EPS guidance. This time to $1.26 to $1.28 for the full year. And for the first nine months, we've already achieved nearly 80% of that full-year goal. More importantly, we are still targeting an 8% annual growth rate for 2022 to 2024. So, this raises our guidance for 2022 utility EPS to $1.36 to $1.38. For the 3rd quarter of 2021, we reported $0.25 of utility EPS, which compares to $0.29 in the 3rd quarter of 2020. In the third quarter of this year, we had a one-time impact to earnings of $0.04 per share related to our most recent Board-implemented governance changes. Jason will get into more detail on the variances shortly. Capital investments, as I mentioned earlier, we have increased our 5-year capital plans to $18 billion plus over the next 5 years and $40 billion plus over the next 10 years. This is nearly a 40% increase in our five-year capital investment plan since the third quarter of 2020. This includes new opportunities stemming from the latest legislative session in Texas. One of those opportunities was the ability to lease and put into rate base mobile generation units. We moved quickly on this opportunity and procured five 5-megawatt and three 30-megawatt mobile generation units, some of which we were able to deploy during Hurricane Nicholas as backup while crews worked to repair our system. Recently, during an ERCOT forecasted Texas-wide load-shedding event, the Texas PUC asked us to ensure our units were ready to support customers. We were the first utility in the state to act on this legislative opportunity and had them in place to utilize them in the way the law intended. We look forward to mobilizing quickly on other tools provided to us by the Texas legislature to improve the resiliency of the electric grid and help reduce the risk of prolonged outages. We already have an outstanding RFP for additional mobile generation, which could bring our total up to 500 megawatts, and we hope to have this procured in the coming months. We believe that with the deployment of these additional tools, we will be able to mitigate some impacts of future extreme weather events on our customers. Due to recent weather events in both Louisiana and Texas, we're running slightly behind on our capital spending plans on a year-to-date basis. These weather events pulled away many of our contract crews, so they could provide mutual assistance to our fellow utilities, especially in Louisiana. Therefore, while deployed elsewhere, they could not work on our capital projects. But we have a catch-up plan in place and anticipate making up the shortfall. In anticipation of continued labor shortages and as we ramp up our capital plans in the coming years, we have now moved to procure additional contractor resources from multiple suppliers. We believe that this will help to support continuity in crews on a long-term basis, reduce the impact of any labor disruptions in executing our $40 billion plus capital spend over the next 10 years. O&M. Turning to O&M, we remain committed to our continuous improvement cost management efforts and our target of 1% to 2% average annual reductions. We've already realized the benefit of some of these improvements this year. We stated in the second quarter that we could accelerate approximately $20 million of recurring O&M work forward from 2022 into this year if we had the available resources. So far, we've achieved approximately 20% of this goal year-to-date and remain confident around our team's ability to continue to execute towards this goal for the balance of the year. This allows us the luxury of reducing near-term run rate O&M costs, which helps to mitigate rate pressures while maintaining continued focus on reliability and safety of our service for customers, all while sustaining growth for our shareholders. Organic growth. In addition to O&M continuous improvement efforts, we are fortunate to operate in growing jurisdictions. This combination plays a key role in keeping our growth plans affordable for our customers. As we discussed during our Analyst Day, Houston is the fourth largest city in the U.S. and the only one of those four that's growing. Houston's organic growth has been multi-decades long. That organic growth rate continued for yet another quarter. We're also seeing strong growth in many of our other jurisdictions as well. On a year-over-year basis, we saw about 2% customer growth for electric and 1% for natural gas due in September. Again, this organic growth is a luxury most other utilities do not have. Now let me shift gears and give a brief regulatory update. A recent highlight in Indiana happened just this past week. As part of our long-term electric generation transition plan, we received the CPCN approval from the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission. For the first tranche of solar generation, 75% of which we expect to own and 25% through a PPA. This approval shows the commission's alignment and support of our 2020 IRP, which bridges our coal generation into a mix of lower-carbon and renewable sources. We anticipate the CPCN decisions for our gas CT plant in the second or third quarter of 2022 and the incremental solar PPA in the 3rd quarter of 2022. As outlined in our IRP, we are targeting to own approximately 50% of our Total Solar Generation portfolio. Our continued build-out of renewables is a key driver in achieving our net zero direct emissions goal by 2035. Shifting to gas cost recovery from the February winter storm. We continue to make progress. And as we previously mentioned, we have mechanisms in place or have begun recovery in all jurisdictions. We are happy to report that just this past week, we reached a settlement on the prudence proceedings supporting securitization of 100% of gas costs in Texas, including all related carrying costs. We look forward to the commission's approval of the agreement. We anticipate receiving a financing order for the securitization bonds by the end of the year. With this timeline, we anticipate receiving the proceeds sometime mid-next year. In Minnesota, we started recovery as of September and are working with stakeholders on ways to reduce the impact on our customers. We filed a rate case earlier this week and also proposed an alternative rate stabilization plan to address the unique set of circumstances customers are experiencing. The full rate case request is for $67.1 million per year, while the rate stabilization plan request is for $39.7 million per year with an extended recovery period for winter storm costs. The proposed rate stabilization plan would resolve the rate case and limit the bill impact on customers, in part by recovering the winter storm costs over a 63-month period. We're asking the PUC to review and approve the stabilization plan by the end of this year, which would allow rates to take effect on January 1st. To summarize, we are working with stakeholders to align our focus on safety and related investments while minimizing the burden on our customers. Largely as a result of mechanisms in our Houston Electric and Indiana South gas jurisdictions, we have recently received approval for $40 million of increased incremental annual revenue. As discussed in our Analyst Day, we anticipate approximately 80% of our 10-year capital plans to be recovered through interim mechanisms, which demonstrates the constructive jurisdictions in which we operate. In Texas, our PUC has now appointed a fourth commissioner. Jason and I have now had the opportunity to meet all four commissioners and are very encouraged by the dialogue and expertise that all of these commissioners bring to the PUC. We look forward to continued engagement with the commissions in all of our jurisdictions. So those are the headlines for the quarter. I remain excited about what's to come for CenterPoint. We have a growing track record of execution and believe it more than demonstrates what we can do in the near future and the unique value proposition that CenterPoint offers to you. With that, let me turn the call over to Jason.

Thank you, Dave. And thank you to all of you for joining us this morning for our third-quarter earnings call. This marks my first year of earnings calls with CenterPoint, and the story keeps getting better. To re-emphasize Dave's message, we're focused on establishing a track record of consistent execution. I fully believe the best is yet to come here at CenterPoint. I'll start this morning with the earnings for the third quarter of 2021. On a GAAP EPS basis, we reported $0.32 for the third quarter of 2021 compared to $0.13 for the third quarter of 2020. Looking at Slide 5, we reported $0.33 of non-GAAP EPS for the third quarter of 2021 compared to $0.34 for the third quarter of 2020. Our utility EPS was $0.25 for the third quarter of 2021, while Midstream Investments contributed another $0.08. Favorable growth and rate recovery, lower interest expense, and reversal of net impacts from COVID last year, each contributed $0.01 of favorability. These amounts were offset by $0.04 related to our one-time board-implemented governance changes recorded this quarter and another $0.03 of unfavorable variance attributable to weather and usage. For context, we experienced 73 fewer cooling degree days in Houston for the third quarter of 2021 compared to the third quarter of 2020. We estimate that each cooling degree day above normal has approximately a $70,000 impact in our Houston Electric business. Turning to Slide 6, for the first nine months, we've achieved nearly 80% of our full-year 2021 utility EPS guidance, which we are now raising to $1.26 to $1.28. As Dave said, we are also raising our utility EPS guidance for 2022 to $1.36 to $1.38, which is an 8% increase from our new 2021 estimates. Looking beyond that, we are focused on delivering 8% annual utility EPS growth through 2024, and at the mid- to high-end of our 6% to 8% annual utility EPS range over the remainder of our 10-year plan. Strong growth each year in every year, no CAGRs for earnings. The last thing I'll mention for this quarter is the share count. Our preferred Series B shares converted into 36 million common shares as of September 1st, further reducing the number of share classes outstanding. We expect the conversion will have no impact on earnings as the increase in shares is effectively offset by the termination of our Series B dividends. Going forward, I want to reiterate, we have no external equity included in our current growth plans and only expect our share count to modestly increase from dividend reinvestment or incentive plans. Now, I want to offer some color on the capital plans supporting our rate base and utility EPS growth. We've spent approximately $2.3 billion year-to-date on capital investments. As Dave mentioned, we had some slight delays due to recent weather events and are focused on making that up over the coming months. We outlined on our Analyst Day the three buckets that we are investing in: safety, reliability, and growth in enabling clean investments included in our $40 billion plus 10-year capital investment plan. This investment profile should benefit our shareholders, our customers, and the environment. We see those opportunities weighted nearly 60% towards investments in our electric business throughout the plan. While we are slightly behind the capital plan on a year-to-date basis, we are in the midst of ramping up to a sustained increase in our capital investments. We're confident we will make up the shortfall by early 2022. Moving to the financing updates, our current liquidity remains strong at $1.8 billion, including available borrowings under our short-term credit facilities and unrestricted cash. Our long-term FFO to debt objective remains between 14% and 15%, aligning with Moody's methodology and consistent with the expectations of the rating agencies. As mentioned during the Analyst Day, it's our intention to stay within this range throughout the course of our long-term plan. Lastly, as we near the end of the calendar year, we're getting incrementally closer to the expected closing of the strategic transactions we've announced. We recently filed a settlement in Arkansas that represents an agreement among all parties. We anticipate that the Arkansas Commission will issue its final approval by mid-December. In Oklahoma, a hearing was held on November 3rd, and we expect a final order soon. Finally, as Energy Transfer expressed on their earnings call earlier this week, the Enable and Energy Transfer merger is also expected to close before year-end. Once that transaction closes, we will remain absolutely focused on reducing and then eliminating our exposure to midstream through a disciplined approach. As said on our Analyst Day, we anticipate being fully exited from the midstream sector by the end of 2022. We will then be nearly a pure play regulated utility. As we continue to express, we take our commitment to be good stewards of your investment very seriously and realize our obligation to optimize the value of the quarter. With that, we look forward to more of the shorter earnings calls in the future. I'll turn the call back over to Dave.

Thank you, Jason. As you heard from us today and others from our full management team during the Analyst Day, the outlook for CenterPoint just keeps getting better. As I said, we now have six quarters of meeting or exceeding expectations, but we believe there is much more to come. We are demonstrating the pathway to premium and we hope that you will be on board with us as a shareholder when that happens.

Thank you, Dave. We will now take a few questions, being mindful of today's earnings schedule and the upcoming EEI conference.

At this time, we will begin taking questions. Please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up question. Thank you. Our first question is from an unidentified caller. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning, Dave. Good morning, Jason.

Good morning.

Hopefully, I can keep this short. Looking at the Company over the past year, it seems to have been more of a transition period. We received three guidance increases throughout the year, including today. How should we approach the future now that we seem to be more in a steady-state with the guidance being more established? Are we in a position to expect further increases in guidance, or is this it for now? And I have one follow-up.

Well, look, I hope you got a sense today of how confident we are in the business or the direction that the business is going at this point in time. And I think that we're starting to hit on all cylinders. So, I agree, we were in a transition. But I think we're transitioning to what we believe ought to be a premium utility. So, I think if you listened to what we said today and let me boil it down into pretty simple terms, whatever we do this year, we will do 8% more than next year. Whatever we do next year, we'll do 8% more the year after that, and so on, as we outlined during our Analyst Day. But we've got a lot of tailwinds behind us right now, and we really, really like where we are.

Great. And just one follow-up. David, during the Analyst Day, you shared some valuable insights, perhaps based on your experience with commodity prices from a previous role. What are your thoughts on whether you anticipate any changes in your outlook regarding commodity prices potentially decreasing?

No, I think you are referring to natural gas prices. If you look at the strip, it is starting to drift down. But more importantly, the focus on gas prices in our business specifically is that we have organic growth to absorb issues. We also have our ability on operations and maintenance. So, if your question is whether we see an impact on customer rates, certainly it will be there. However, I believe we have some offsets that other utilities might not have. Jason, do you have anything you would like to add?

Sure Dave. Thanks for the question, Anthony. As we outlined at Analyst Day, we continue to work within our defined gas procurement plans for each jurisdiction. As of today, looking across all of our jurisdictions, we're roughly 60% hedged. Now that we're going into the upcoming winter season and for almost all of those jurisdictions, we've locked in kind of a weighted average cost of gas of somewhere between sort of the mid-3s and high-3s, $3 per MBTU in the majority of our jurisdictions. And so, I feel well-positioned for this upcoming winter season. Obviously, we continue to look at what we can do across the business to ease the burden on our customers. An example of that is the creative alternative rate stabilization plan that we just recently filed in Minnesota. We will continue to look for ways to minimize the bill impacts. But I feel like we're well prepared coming into this upcoming winter season.

Great, thanks for taking my question. I will see you guys at EEI and, Dave, sorry about the Stros.

Yeah. Well, better luck next year, right?

Our next question is from Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning, guys?

Good morning.

Good morning.

Just with the current CapEx plan, you're obviously more levered to the electric side of the business, and the IRP in Indiana presents some additional upside beyond the 5 years for electric investment. Dave, do you have a target mix for electric versus gas contribution? What's the timeline to achieve it especially as we're thinking about potentially further gas optimization funding, which seems to be a very sizable electric decarbonization plan.

If you take a step back and look at the overall direction and strategy of the Company, we are focused on the electric side of our business. The transition from coal supports this direction due to the capital it will require. As we mentioned at our Analyst Day, we don't need equity to execute our 10-year plan, but we recognize the intrinsic value of our remaining gas local distribution companies, which could provide liquidity if needed. Ultimately, we are leaning towards electric, and that is how we will continue to move forward. I won't speculate on what the future ratio will be, but that is the direction we are taking.

Got it. And then just lastly, obviously a little bit behind on the CapEx as you highlighted in the prepared remarks, but still targeting that $18 billion plus. What are some of the governing factors to increasing the upside or bringing that $1 billion into the base plan that we discussed during the Analyst Day?

I think it's a couple of things. One is just getting sort of final resolution and clarity around the new tools in the toolbox with respect to the Texas legislative process. We highlighted today the temporary generation, for instance, that we've moved very, very quickly on those kinds of things, would absorb some of that additional billion-dollar in sort of contingent capital that we laid out on our Analyst Day. The other issue is going to be just finding sufficient crews and labor and parts and inventory and those kinds of things out there to accelerate it. So, I think the message we tried to leave at Analyst Day is we have $18 billion plus to spend in the next 5 years, $40 billion plus to spend in the next 10 years. We will spend that capital as fast as we can reasonably do so as long as it's consistent with rate pressures that we will have, and to spend it efficiently. Again, we've got the wind at our back on many other things, and our capital spend opportunities are certainly one of those.

Great. Thanks, and thank you for that. We'll see you guys soon. Appreciate it.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Our next question is from Insoo Kim from Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Insoo.

Good morning, Dave. My first question relates to Shar's inquiry about the CapEx and the current delay. I understand the reasons behind the year-to-date delay and the plans to make up for it. Looking ahead, do you see any structural concerns or challenges in executing the current CapEx plan over the next few years, such as labor shortages or rising labor costs or any other factors that might pose a challenge?

Look, just like pretty much every other company and management team in the U.S., we're dealing with supply chain issues, and upward pressure on labor costs. But I don't think that we have seen that to such an extent that we are going to say that we can't meet the capital plan. We have every intention and every confidence that we are going to meet the capital plan. We tried to give a little color to it with respect to that on the call today. We have moved aggressively to tie up more construction crews. We have expanded our vendor base in and around that area. One of the tools that we got in the new legislative processes is the ability to put long lead time items into inventory and into rate base. So, we're looking at all of those. I think the sort of small slip in capital spend this year really was unrelated to any of that. It really was related to the storms that really pounded into Louisiana. And as all utilities do, we help each other when those situations arise. We released several of our crews who were focused on capital build for us to help the people in Louisiana get back on their feet. Those crews are now coming back. As Jason said, we've got a short-term plan in place to catch up on that capital spend. But our longer-term view of tying up crews and making sure we have the long lead time items ordered give us a great deal of confidence that the capital plan we have is going to be achievable.

Understood. And just quickly, the other question I had was, as we think about the closing of the midstream transaction, can you remind me if there's a limit on how much you can sell in terms of the units at any given time?

I'll let my very good CFO, Jason, answer that question.

Insoo, thanks for the question. No, there is no direct limit. We had talked about previously the need to register those units. Energy Transfer has already undertaken that effort, so we are free to execute contingent for up until the close as we have done. Once the deal is closed, to the extent that we want to execute a marketed offering, we have to obviously coordinate with Energy Transfer. We have full flexibility to do that after the close of the transaction. And similarly, we will have the ability to dribble the share. So, I think we're moving to a place of full control, no limitation on the number of units.

Got it. Thank you and see you soon.

Our next question is from Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning team. Sorry about the Stros there. I wanted to send my condolences as well here.

I'd tell you I didn't think this would turn into a burial of the Astros. But I appreciate the sentiments. There's always next year, remember that.

We know they're close to your heart. There we go. Indeed. Listen, just wondering what's driving the confidence still on the timeline for the ET deal here. I know you mentioned it here again, and you mentioned at the Analyst Day, but maybe remind us where that process stands specifically with respect to the FTC today, as they continue to put out their own headlines?

Good morning, Julien. It's Jason here. As we mentioned during Analyst Day, Energy Transfer and Enable are leading the discussions with the FTC. We have a strong interest in this matter, and everything we've observed gives us confidence that this deal will be finalized in the fourth quarter. While it's probably better for Energy Transfer to address how the conversations are progressing, we remain optimistic about closing this deal in Q4.

Got it. All right, fair enough. And then on this alternative stabilization plan. Can you talk a little bit more about the mechanics? Obviously, it's early here, but has there been any feedback so far on the proposal? Obviously, these are somewhat sensitive subjects, so I'll let you respond accordingly.

Thanks, Julien. It's a really unique situation, obviously in Minnesota with the incremental gas costs from the recent storms and the fact that we've got a regular rate case scheduled there. While we filed a typical rate case, we thought it was prudent to bring forth what we've deemed the rate stabilization plan. It tries to build off of what was just a recent settlement of the last rate case filed in Minnesota. Keeping similar terms on depreciation rates and cost of capital allows us to recover the capital that we will be spending over the next couple of years to improve the safety of our gas systems. It differs a little bit from the amortization of some regulatory assets for things like COVID-related costs and some of the incremental O&M that we anticipated. We think it puts us in a really good position to continue to improve system safety with our capital investment plans while recognizing the rate impact and trying to moderate that for our customers there in Minnesota. Early days in terms of conversations with stakeholders, but we hope that it is seen as a constructive solution in the backdrop of what is a unique situation.

Got it. And last one, just super quick there. I heard you guys comment on the backup generation in Texas. Any updates on differences, Texas market, obviously the reforms will be moving fairly swiftly still here. Curious if there's anything to be said on that front as a function of reforms.

I think maybe just to tease you a little bit. Yes, we're having some dialogue with them on additional transmission lines, but it's really too early to talk about any specifics on it.

Okay. fair enough. I suspect it as much. Bye. Best of luck. Speak soon.

Thanks.

Our next question is from Durgesh Chopra with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Morning.

Hey. Hey, good morning. Just one for me. Just on the Indiana solar program, David, your commentary mentioned a 75/25 mix, 75 rate base, 25 PPA 'd. Is that sort of what you're targeting going forward in your plans? And just curious as to how you got there in terms of the 75/25 mix.

Good morning. I'll let Jason answer that.

Good morning, Durgesh. Overall, as we look at this first sort of part of our coal transition plan, we're targeting a 50/50 allocation, that is 50% owned renewables, 50% contracted through PPAs for the renewable portion for the first tranche of the coal transition. We filed originally, as you pointed out and as Dave mentioned in his prepared remarks, an initial tranche of solar that was 75% owned, 25% PPA. We then subsequently filed in the third quarter this year for 100% PPA solar projects. As you look through each of these individual filings, we're targeting a 50-50 owned contract target mix for renewables.

Got it. Thank you very much.

Our last question is from Stephen Byrd from Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning.

Morning.

Morning.

Just had one kind of a broad question just on draft federal legislation. And as you look at that, I know that's subject to change and who knows what the final version will look like. But I was thinking in particular about, I guess two elements: 1. Tax policy and impacts in terms of cash flow, customer bills, etc. And then the other was just broad support for clean energy, whether that might change or enhance some of your resource plans and movement towards clean energy or accelerate some of your plans. So just curious what you're thinking there?

I'll start off by addressing this and then I’ll let Jason discuss the potential tax impact. You're absolutely correct that it's a dynamic situation right now. Having experienced many similar efforts in Washington, I've learned that it's essential to observe the process without committing to anything substantial until it’s officially enacted. From a broader perspective, when considering renewables and ESG initiatives, it's clear that they align well with our objectives. However, currently, I don’t see any changes that would speed up or slow down our existing plans. As you know, we have established an ambitious target: achieving net direct emissions of zero by 2035. I believe this is a solid plan that we intend to follow. If we receive any additional support from the developments in D.C., we will certainly take advantage of it, but it won't divert us from our current path. Jason, would you like to discuss the tax implications?

Yes, sure. Thanks for the question, Stephen. From a tax standpoint, we are federal cash taxpayers. Right now, as you cut through our financials, there's a lot of one-time items as we've executed on this transition to a pure play regulated utility, and we will continue to see that. As you cut through that for us, our effective cash tax rate is between 8% to 10%. So clearly, a minimum tax of 15% would put a little bit of impact or headwind on the financing plan. We don't think it's certainly something that we can overcome. We don't think it's an impediment to the CapEx plan that we outlined and still feel like we can continue to maintain a strong balance sheet as we outline and deliver on our $40 billion capital investment plan. Early days, we'll follow it. Probably not as big an impact for us as maybe some of our peers, just given the fact that we have been cash taxpayers. But obviously, something we will continue to monitor.

That's great. Thank you very much.

Again, thank you everyone for joining us today and for your interest in CenterPoint. We look forward to seeing you all at EEI.

This concludes today's CenterPoint Energy's third quarter earnings conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.