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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Canadian Solar's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Melissa and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Wina Huang, Head of Investor Relations at Canadian Solar. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to Canadian Solar's first quarter 2026 conference call. Please note that today's conference call is accompanied with slides which are available on Canadian Solar's Investor Relations website within the events and presentation section. Joining us today are Dr. Sean Hsu, Executive Chairman and CTO, Colin Parkins, CEO, Ismael Guerrero, CEO of Canadian Solar Subsidiary Recurrent Energy, and Simbo Zhu, Senior VP and CFO. All company executives will participate in the Q&A session after management's formal remarks. On this call, Sean will go over some key messages for the quarter. Colin and Ismael will review business highlights from manufacturing and recurrent energy, respectively, and Simbo will go through the financial results. Colin will conclude the prepared remarks with the business outlook, after which we will have time for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind listeners that management's prepared remarks today as well as their answers to questions will contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties. The company claims protection under the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Security Votidation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ from management's current expectations. Any projections of the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today. Canadian Solar assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future unless otherwise required by applicable law. A more detailed discussion of risks and uncertainties can be found in the company's annual report on Form 20-F filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Management's prepared remarks will be presented within the requirements of SEC Regulation G regarding generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. Some financial information presented during the call will be provided on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis. By disclosing certain non-GAAP information, management intends to provide investors with additional information to enable further analysis of the company's performance and underlying trends. Management uses non-GAAP measures to better assess operating performance and to establish operational goals. Non-GAAP information should not be viewed by investors as a substitute for data provided in accordance to GAAP. And now I would like to turn the call over to Canadian Solar's Executive Chairman and CTO, Dr. Sean He. Sean, please go ahead.
Thank you, Wina, and thank you all for joining our first quarter, 2026 earnings call. Beginning on slide three, we started the year with strong momentum. We recognized revenue on 2.5 gigawatts of solar modules and 2.1 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions, both of which exceeded our guidance range. Revenue totaled $1.1 billion, reaching the high end of our expectations. Growth margin of 25.1% outperformed our forecast, aided by the accrual of IEPA tariff refunds. Profitability was impacted by elevated non-logistics operating expenses, foreign exchange losses, and tax expense accrues related to the tariff refund. This led to a net loss attributable to shareholders of $32 million, or $0.71 per diluted share. The solar downturn has lasted longer than expected. Against this backdrop, we have consistently made the right strategic decisions. We have repositioned our solar module business to focus on key attractive markets accumulating in the formation of CS PowerTech, which is now leading our efforts in the domestic reshoring of manufacturing in the United States. At the same time, we have strategically dialed back volumes in less profitable markets, maintaining a steadfast, profit-first strategy. Furthermore, energy storage represents a pioneering strategic move for us. Throughout this business, we have transformed from a pure PV module manufacturer into an integrated energy solutions provider. The boom in artificial intelligence has also provided new clarity. As the world chases digital breakthroughs, our core foundation is still physical power infrastructure. With rising global geopolitical friction and the push for energy independence, nations are increasingly seeking self-sufficient, reliable, local energy solutions. Renewable energy paired with energy storage has become an inevitable imperative. Turning to slide four, our journey from our founding in Ontario, Canada, to our current position as a global leader in integrated clean energy is a testament to our enduring resilience. We have consistently evolved, and today we are navigating a pivotal shift from volume-driven expansion to value-driven leadership. This evolution calls for strategic succession, and I am proud to transition the chief executive officer's role to Pauline Parkin. Colin is a veteran of the company and renewable energy industry. He previously served as president of Canadian Solar and was pivotal in establishing our first mover advantage in the energy storage sector as president of e-storage. This transition follows a thoughtful, long-term succession planning process approved unanimously by the Board of Directors. I will transition to the role of Executive Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, focusing on our technology roadmap and long-term R&D strategy. while working closely with Colleen to execute this transition. With that, I will now turn the call over to Colleen. Colleen, please go ahead.
Thank you, Sean. It is an honor to take over the chief executive role, and I look forward to your continued guidance as we navigate our next phase of role. Beginning on slide five, as Sean highlighted, the first pillar of our global strategy is U.S. manufacturing. Since our last update, we have achieved critical milestones in reshoring the renewable energy supply chain. Phase 1 of our flagship solar cell factory in Jeffersonville, Indiana, produced its first trial HJT solar cell at the end of March. With a nameplate capacity of 2.1 gigawatts peak, It will be the first and only commercial operational HJT solar cell facility in the United States once it ramps up over the next two quarters. In response to strong customer demand, we are increasing our domestic solar cell capacity beyond the original planned 5 gigawatts peak. We expect to begin trial production for Phase 2 the beginning of next year. This expansion will add 4.2 gigawatts peak of capacity, bringing our total U.S. solar cell main plate capacity to 6.3 gigawatts peak and making us the largest crystalline silicon solar cell manufacturing in the country. Parallel to this is the expansion of our successful solar module factory in Mesquite, Texas. This facility reached full ramp last year and we are currently expanding capacity at the existing site. By the second half of this year we expect nameplate capacity to double to 10 gigawatts peak, allowing us to fulfill all future U.S. volumes from this Texas facility. Now let's walk through this quarter's manufacturing numbers. Turning to slide six. In the first quarter of 2026, we delivered 2.5 gigawatts of solar modules globally. We maintained a disciplined approach, strategically managing volumes in response to elevated feedstock costs, including silver, to mitigate losses. Our domestic manufacturing in the U.S. contributed robust margins as we maintained an optimized geographic mix of volumes. Storage shipments recognized as revenue reached 2.1 gigawatt hours, slightly above guidance, supported by steady construction progress across multiple customer sites. Revenue for the manufacturing segment reached $950 million, and our gross margin was 29.1%. The sequential 1,460 basis point increase was driven by healthy energy storage volumes and the tariff refunds. With unit shipping costs holding steady and disciplined management of operating expenses, we achieved operating income of $127 million. Now referring to slide 7 regarding e-storage. We shipped 2.6 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions this quarter, including 500 megawatt hours to internal and external projects under execution, recognition, recognizing revenue on 2.1 gigawatt hours of volume. We are now delivering to a diversified global customer base within a single quarter what we delivered in a full year just a few years ago. We have also significantly advanced our manufacturing capabilities. For example, our internal production of lithium-ion phosphate prismatic cells is proving to be a distinct advantage in today's market as we have now achieved a cost basis below the market price of third-party cells. This strategic vertical integration provides an economic buffer during cyclical fluctuations while equipping us with the proprietary technical expertise necessary to drive further innovation. To support our global momentum and markets, we are also expanding capacity at our integrated battery energy storage system and battery cell factory in Southeast Asia. We plan to double both our battery cell and sole bank capacities to ensure strong coverage of annual volumes with internally sourced compliance solutions. The new production lines are currently being constructed and will come online in the first half of 2027. As we focus on maintaining our stellar execution track record, we are also balancing growth and profitability. As of May, our contracted backlog totaled $3.5 billion, including 34 gigawatt hours of operating projects under long-term service agreements. As we continue to scale our storage business, these recurring revenue streams will also increase. Finally, we continue to actively pursue opportunities within both front-of-the-meter and behind-the-meter data center applications. While most commercialized demand today is manifesting through front-of-the-meter contracts, we are seeing steady industry progress in the planning, permitting, and technical development required for future behind-the-meter opportunities. As this market gradually matures, we remain closely aligned with the key stakeholders driving these opportunities forward. Now let me hand the call over to Ishmael, who will provide an overview of Recurrent Energy, Canadian Solar's global project development business. Ishmael, please go ahead.
Thank you, Colin. beginning with the slide eight. We generated 139 million dollars in revenue in the first quarter. Revenue improved sequentially, primarily driven by the sale of the Fort Duncan project. However, the overall contribution of this project sale was offset by related tax equity arrangement as we had recognized tax equity gains when the project was placed in service. Port Arlington is a milestone. It is the first standalone best project in our portfolio that was financed with non-recourse project finance and had no capacity contract in place. We have now successfully monetized and sold the asset profitably, demonstrating that we can also achieve profitable sales for this merchant market project types. With relatively muted project sales this quarter and ongoing platform operating costs, we posted an operating loss of $60 million. As we continue to monetize more operating and under construction assets, the panel impact may not be optimal in the near term. However, this strategy remains necessary to deliver our balance sheet and recycled capital. Turning to slide 9, as of March 31st, 2026, we have secured interconnections for 7 gigawatts of solar and 14 gigawatt hours of storage globally, excluding projects already in operation. Our total project pipeline is comprised of 24 gigawatts of solar and 81 gigawatt hours of energy storage. Our focus in 2026 is to reduce depth and mature our pipeline. Our pipeline is one of the largest in the industry, with a focus on the most stable geographic markets. Our strategy will also allow us to reduce operating expenses by concentrating fewer geographies within our core footprint. We are now focused on unlocking the value of the existing pipeline as it matures. At the same time, we see the rising global energy demand trend and growing appetite for these projects. Our ONM platform continues to grow steadily and holds a contracted portfolio of 15 gigawatts, of which 11.2 gigawatts are already operational. The reminder is currently under construction and will join our managed project portfolio over the coming quarters. Now, let me hand the call over to Jimbo, who will go through our financial results in more Jimbo, please go ahead.
Thank you, Ismail. Beginning with slide 10, in the first quarter, we recognized revenue on 2.5 gigawatt of modules and 2.1 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions, both slightly above guidance. As a result, revenue reached $1.1 billion at the high end of our forecast. Growth margin of 25.1% strongly exceeded guidance. It increased both sequentially and year-over-year due to the accrual of tariff refunds, which contributed 860 basis points. Without this one-time benefit, our gross margin still exceeded guidance on strong storage volumes and a healthy geographic mix of solar module volumes. Operating expenses increased 5% sequential growth, and lower freight costs were offset by the absence of one-time gains recorded in previous quarters. Net interest expense in the first quarter was $36 million, down from $39 million in the first quarter of 2025. Cost of debt was lower following refinances in the project development business. Net foreign exchange loss was $29 million, driven by appreciation in the China's Chinese yuan and the weakness in the U.S. dollar. Total net loss attributable to Canadian solar was $32 million, or $0.71 per diluted share. Now let's turn to cash flow and the balance sheet on slide 11. Net cash flow used in operating activities during the first quarter of 2026 was $209 million. This upflow was primarily driven by increased inventories associated with the U.S. solar and storage business. Total assets grew to $15.5 billion, driven by increased inventories to support the U.S. solar and storage business, as well as U.S. manufacturing investments. In the first quarter, we invested $173 million in capital expenditures, primarily to what U.S. manufacturing initiatives. We expect 2026 CAPACs to total around $1.3 billion. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $1.9 billion and total debt of $6.8 billion. The total debt increased mainly due to new convertible notes issued to support U.S. manufacturing. Now, let me turn the call back to Colleen, who will conclude with our guidance and business outlook. Colleen, please go ahead.
Thank you, Shimbo.
Turning to slide 12, for the second quarter of 2026, we expect to recognize revenue on 3.1 and 3.3 gigawatts of solar modules. We expect to deliver between 2.8 and 3.2 gigawatt hours of energy storage solutions, including approximately 400 megawatt hours to internal and external projects under construction. Revenue and profit recognition for volumes delivered to these in-progress projects may be subject to timing lags. Furthermore, our storage guidance range is slightly more conservative and wider due to delays related to ongoing shipping congestion. We project total second quarter revenue to be in the range of $1 to $1.2 billion, dollars with gross margin expected to be between 13 and 15 percent the broader solar market remains complex as incremental price increases have not yet fully absorbed upstream cost pressures in the storage business we expect record volumes in the second half of the year though margins are projected to normalize and we remain partially exposed to fluctuations in the lithium carbonate pricing. In the face of these challenges, we remain committed to a balanced strategy focused on rigorous execution and continuous innovation. For the full year of 2026, we reiterate our U.S. volume guidance, 6.5 to 7 gigawatts of module shipments and 4.5 to 5.5 gigawatt hours of energy storage shipments. With that, I would like to open the floor for questions. Operator?
Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from the line of Colin Rush with Oppenheimer & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks so much. Sean, this is actually a question for you on the technology side, and congratulations on getting the battery costs down to where you've gotten them. I'm just curious about the evolution of the battery chemistry, notably around incremental silicon doping for the anode side, as well as the form factor and chemistry optimization for data center duty cycles. So can you just talk about how quickly things are changing and how we can see that start to translate into some advantage pricing over time?
Thanks, Colleen. That's a good question. Now, we are working on several fronts of the battery storage system. You mentioned the pre-lithium agent, I think, which is a way to dope additional lithium into the anode so that we can achieve almost no degradation in the first five years and also slow degradation in the future. These are good technology and process-wise, we are all ready. However, that indeed, that will increase the cost of the battery because you have to put more lithium into it so it become a cost balance issue we propose this technology to our customers and some customers see benefit some customers get concerned about cost because as you know the lithium carbonite price has been you know has doubled in the past five months so the technology is ready we can can implement it on any project where this technology provides more volume. Another approach in the chemistry of the battery is the sodium, sodium battery. We also have research in this area. You know, sodium is not subject to the fluctuation of raw material. Sodium is everywhere, not like lithium. So when the lithium carbonate price goes to today's level, sodium becomes price competitive. And also the sodium will have better low temperature performance and almost doesn't require any thermal management. So you can also save the 2% annual thermal management electricity cost. So that's another chemistry we are doing research. And there are a few other technologies. I'm more than willing to go through that with you later on in any dedicated conversations. Perfect.
That's super helpful, Sean. And then on the recurrent side, given where utility scale prices are in the U.S., I'm just curious about your ability to renegotiate PPAs or start cutting PPAs at substantially higher prices to support margins. Just curious about that dynamic and potential timing around that.
Yeah, I would just make a quick comment here. Now, for the mature project or project already in operation, the PPA is fixed. The advantage is that PPA and cash flow is secure and you can do financing the bank financing and non-recourse financing easily however it will be difficult to renegotiate PPA or the sign in place usually you will have to pay you know pay back you are you know I you know LCs, which guarantees or support PPA if you want to do a higher PPA. I think we did one project in the past, which we paid the LC and canceled PPA and renegotiated. But normally we don't. However, on the other hand, Connie, we have a large pipeline of middle-stage and early-stage project. This project, we have not signed PPA yet, so we'll be able to repurpose it for, for example, the AIDC-specific applications and therefore drive higher values. So, in short, the mature pipeline, operating pipeline with PPA gives us certainty. Now, meanwhile, a large pipeline of mid-stage and early-stage project will help us to create more values in the future. Great.
Thanks so much, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Shen with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to check in with you guys more on the US cell manufacturing ramp, cell capacity ramp. You guys have had first cell out. Congratulations on that. When would you expect the commercial shipment of those cells to go into your modules? And when do you think your first U.S. module with U.S. Cell is available commercially for your customers?
Hi, Philip. It's an interesting question. We have answered in several places in the press release and also in the prepared speech. which we expect somewhere in July or two months later to have commercial operation. And then we'll be able to make our own modules with the HJT solar cell and deliver to customer. That process should be fast. If we can have a commercial delivery in July, then probably in August, September, we'll have the first module delivered to our customer. Now, I would like to caution you, all these expectations right now, they are still two or three months to go, and this is the first time the industry ever started to produce HDD hydrojunction cells in the U.S., it will be a milestone, and it's not an easy task. I just want to caution you about that. However, our expectation is in Q3.
Great. Thank you for the additional color, Sean. And then as it relates to your sourcing Speaking of third party cells, can you remind us, um, what countries or places you're sourcing those cells from, um, and do you have any exposure to Ethiopia? Uh, you know, there was that, um, new petition that was filed a couple of days ago or yesterday on, um, uh, a potential new anti-circumvention tariffs on cells coming from Ethiopia. And then finally, do you buy any blue wafers at all? Or in your supply chain, do you have exposure to blue wafers?
Thanks, Philip. That's a very tricky question. However, I will give you a straightforward answer. Now we do source outside sales and also import sales from other countries to the United States. we are transitioning to more and more domestic cell. So, as I have mentioned in several previous calls, 2026 is a transition year for us. Now, we don't provide the geographic distribution or sources of our cells in this transition period. However, as far as I know, we are not subject to the expulsion of the recent petition as you mentioned.
Okay. Thank you, Sean.
And then anything on blue wafers? Do you have any thoughts on that and is that in your supply chain?
No. There's no blue soapbox called blue wafers. Whatever cell made in a certain country, those cells should go through the necessary solar cell steps. For our factory, we only use so-called great wafer. And the cell production process are completed in whatever country. country.
Great. Okay. Thank you. And then one last one here on the IEPA tariff in the quarter, uh, you guys booked it. Can you talk about the accounting for that? And specifically, did you guys secure cash, uh, with, uh, that refund or is that expected sometime in the future? And if it doesn't come, then what happens to the accounting? Thanks.
Yeah, I will let Xin Bu to supplement. And now the refund, IEPA tariff refund consists of basically, I guess I would say three components. One is the refund on the tariff for imported, let's say imported solar cell or other manufacturing components now these those refunds i believe will be accrued in the cogs which is the standard accounting now there are also some refunds of the machines we shipped to us those will not go into cogs i think those will be used to reduce the cost base of our CAPAC investment in the U.S. Therefore, later on benefit on the depreciation of the machines. And those refunds, some of those will go into the CSI solar subsidiaries because CSIQ Solar have done importing last year. Now, some of this, I believe, will go to the CSIQ companies because CSIQ also imported materials early this year. Now, in terms of cash flow, I'm glad to report that we have already started to receive the IEPA tax refund receive the cash as of today we have already received that cash so you will you will see the the you know cash component in the Q2 accounting so in Q1 those IEPA will be recorded But there will be an account receivable or something like that, and Q2, you will receive real cash, a credit to those accounting, you know, account receivable. I hope I answered the question right, but you know, Shin Bo can supplement.
Not much to add. But we received cash, tariff, together with interest. Thank you.
Yeah, so far we have started to receive tariff refunds together with the interest. As you probably know, those refunds are batch by batch. It depends on every entrance or every entry of the import, so what CBP does. do it and does is to verify and refund entries by entries. Therefore, there will be, like, you know, cash flow come to us depending on the entry. So, we'll see lots of entries. So, it will be a process. However, we have already started to receive cash. Some cash already arrived in our bank accounts.
Great. Thank you for all the color, Sean and Jimbo. I'll pass it on. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alan Lau with Jeffries. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks for taking my question.
So the margin in first quarter is very solid, actually, even taking out the refund of tariff. So we'd like to know how much of the module shipment is coming from the U.S. plant. And as you have mentioned, the margins from your U.S. manufacturing plant was decent. We'd like to know approximately at what levels is it?
Yeah, I think around 30-40% of the module shipment come from U.S. factory. It's more or less the same ratio as before.
So now, Weena, do you have some color to provide?
In line with our profit first strategy, we have been emphasizing our key strategic markets. So you'll see quarter over quarter, we've maintained a very healthy mix of North American volumes. This quarter, out of our 2.5 gigawatts, 45% came from North America, so a very healthy mix that supported our modular margins.
So, basically, almost all of the shipments to the U.S. is manufactured by the U.S. plant?
All of, not almost all of.
Thank you, thank you. So, how about the margins there? Like, what's the approximate margin of the U.S. manufacturing plant? Yeah, I will let Colin to provide colors.
Hi, Alan. Thanks for your question. We're in a transitional period in the U.S. as we transition our scale, our mesquite module operations, but bring online our cell manufacturing in Jeffersonville. So, there will be a transitional period, but I think what we can say is with the combination of the 45X manufacturing credits, but also with the economies of scale that we're building in the U.S. and the fact that we're going to be using the most advanced HJT cell technology in our products, that during this transition, as we mentioned, we start to scale in Q3, Q4, and heavily into 2027, that those will all be combined and complementary to a pretty robust margin.
So, we strongly believe that all these factors are going to lead to a strong and robust U.S. profitable business model. understood so um then uh so actually the company is already uh ramp up its ht uh cells so wonder if uh uh you are seeing a premium of ht products versus other products like perk or topcon products in the u.s markets uh yeah alan we haven't commercially delivered the hjt sale yet
as i uh as i said uh in answer to a previous question we expect in q3 we start to deliver that however based on the contract booking we do a price a premium of hjt sale compared to the TopCon cell. Yes, we do price up. You know, for the contract world design, the customers are willingly accepted a premium for the HGT cells.
That's impressive. So how much is the premium like in terms of US sense?
Well, it's still a good process when we just started to book those contracts. As far as I remember, you're talking about over 10% or maybe 10, 15% of the price premium of the HAT modules versus TopCon modules. but we'll give you better numbers I guess after Q4 we have actual comparison of the motor shipment and if it's 10 to 15 percent that's equivalent or more than more than three cents maybe which is pretty impressive so yeah switching
there to um ESS uh segments would like to know uh if the if the margins uh is at around 20 percent level uh can you repeat what which area uh ESS energy storage uh what's the margin for ESS storage in the first quarter yeah okay i will let uh con in to address this question I think, Alan, one of the things that I'd like to point out is that our backlog continues to be very healthy, so we have a reasonably long view on our energy storage pipeline and the margins. With that, I think everybody recognizes that there's continued price pressures, but I think by diversifying our supply chain and giving ourselves a lot of flexibility in our supply chain that we're confident in our pipeline and in the margins associated with that. We do know that there is fluctuations in the commodity pricing and in lithium pricing. So we may see some improvements on that, but perhaps more of a cautious approach in how we present our forecasted numbers with that in mind.
So I wonder if going forward, the local production of the battery pack would help the margins?
Yeah, I think everything we're doing to control our own supply chain is giving us a very good strategic advantage, but also control of all aspects, logistics, manufacturing costs, and seamless project integration. So it continues to be our strategy to grow our capabilities all the way from our lithium cell manufacturing through our complete battery systems, but also in our total ESS solutions. So total integrated ESS solutions, including software, technology, the PCS, the battery themselves, and supporting that with a very strong engineering and execution team as part of our strategy to also deliver lots of value for our customers. And also, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, our long-term service contracts to support this is also very valuable to our customers and to us as it continues to be ongoing, recurring business for our energy storage business. understood so last question from and this so is there any any difficulty or any challenges in expanding the cell capacities given there were some rumors
saying that the export of form solar cell capacities might be prohibited etc so wonder if when you're expanding your capacities to 6.3 gigawatt wonder if you get any challenges in getting your equipment in place?
So far, we don't see that challenge. I know what you are talking about, and I hope that President Trump's visit to Beijing, I believe he just shook hands with President Xi of China several hours ago. So, I hope that this will help to smooth out the trade relationship. However, so far, we don't see any challenges for our phase two equipment deliveries. We haven't started to take deliveries of the phase two total cell equipment. as we mentioned phase one we plan to ramp up in Q3 and the phase two will start to move in equipment in Q4 probably in October November time frame and we'll start ramp up of the phase two of Jeffersonville early next year so we haven't taken deliverance of those machine yet but so far we don't have we haven't seen any restriction at least not to our contract by the way we find the related equipment contract for the phase two machineries very early. So, that was before any noise around this issue. So, I believe that the fact we have already signed those equipment contracts, we have also paid some down payment, also give us advantage if there's any restriction. I think restriction may be to the future equipment, not for our machines. I think our machine is more or less grandfathered, whatever, if there's any restrictions come out. However, I do hope that President Trump's visit will help to further clear any of the uncertainties in this area.
Thanks, Sean. it's very clear and hope uh things goes move in expansion as well so thank you thank you thank you our next question comes from the line of mahi mandaloy with miduho securities please proceed with your question hey uh hello everyone thanks for the questions here we just question on the guidance uh if you could talk about like the mix of manufacturing versus recurrent in Q2? Is it similar to what we saw in Q1? And also for the U.S. North America exposure, how to think about the mix in Q2 versus Q1? Thanks.
Yeah, we're not calling him to address his question.
Well, I think, first of all, thank you for your question. With respect to the guidance, we are reiterating our U.S. guidance from last quarter. So we feel confident in our current execution. So we don't expect any significant downside on our reiterated guidance as we put out in our prepared remarks.
Gotcha.
And then just to cut us on the mix in Q2 versus Q1 for the manufacturing, which is recurrent, and North America versus the rest of the regions.
I think most of our – if I understand the question correctly, most of our shipments are to third parties, very little to our recurrent operations. in terms of our product shipment. I'm not sure if that is at the root of your question.
That's a follow-up offline on detail on that. But separately, a question on the e-storage business. How much of the backlog is North America for you guys and for Canadian, for CS PowerTech? And also, are you seeing any interest or any order in the pipeline from data center customers or hyperscalers looking to deploy batteries on-site?
Yeah, two good questions that I appreciate you raising. About 40% of our business is in the U.S. right now. And obviously, we're seeing that demand increase. both the build-out of infrastructure, front of the meter, and now we're starting to see a lot of progression into behind-the-meter opportunities. So today, we're pretty happy about our global pipeline and that we're diversified. We have, just to talk before I come back to the U.S. and the data center question, you know, we have about 60% of the U.S. or sorry, the Canadian battery market. We have over, I think, four and a half gigawatt hours contracted there. We're, I think, in the leading position in the UK market. We're starting to see a lot of progress in Europe now as those key markets in Europe are starting to become very active. Similarly, in Japan, as the best market is maturing in Japan, we're seeing a lot of opportunity for that market. And as well, we continue to be steady with a couple of gigawatt hours a year in Australia. So having that diversification, I think, is good for our e-storage business. But with respect to the question about AIDC, well, we have been working on this for quite a while. Last quarter, we announced a front-of-the-meter infrastructure project, two-and-a-half gigawatt hours to support data center growth. And we have developed very focused business development and technology teams focusing on making sure that our solutions have the right technical requirements, the stringent requirements for fast response for data centers and the other requirements. And that's getting a lot of traction as well as the fact that we're able to offer fully compliant solutions for data centers. So while we cannot actually disclose who we're working with, I can tell you that we're very engaged right now on data center opportunities and that it's a big part of our program and our focus. and we expect it to yield some pretty exciting results for us in the next quarters that hopefully we'll be able to be a little more forthcoming about as we get further along in the contracting processes.
That's great. I appreciate the detailed color on the different markets as well. And maybe just one last one on the guidance for the rest of the year. I know you obviously haven't guided for Q3, Q4 the full year, but directionally, like, how should we think about the business here with the U.S. factories ramping up? Should we be looking at something similar to last year's cadence or something different here? Any color would be helpful? Thank you.
Well, I guess if we look at the solar side first, there's been a lot of volatility in that market. There continues to be a lot of volatility, and our approach, as you know, has been to focus on profitable business over volume. And so, on that basis, we've been reserving guidance, but keeping an opportunistic position to strike with more volume as the markets support it. So, we see, I think, on the solar side, hopefully some improvements that we can take advantage in terms of volume on the second half, but reserving a little bit our position on guidance and focusing on the U.S., where we have a strong line of sight on our volumes and our guidance. with storage. Our pipeline remains strong, as we've mentioned, and we have also, in our prepared remarks, expressed that we will hit record deliveries in our storage side for the second half of this year. These are projects that go through a very sophisticated level of planning and logistics. It's based on that that we're very confident in the second half of the year on our storage side. We don't see, barring any unexpected circumstances, a very strong second half for our energy storage business probably in record record deliveries thank you appreciate the color calling and say congratulations on the opponent thank you thank you very much thank you ladies and gentlemen that concludes our time allowed for questions I'll turn the floor back to management for any final comments thank you for joining us today and and for your continued support if you have any questions or would like to set up a call please contact our investor relations team. Take care and have a great day. Thank you, everybody.
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