Electrovaya Inc. Q1 FY2025 Earnings Call
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Auto-generated speakersGreetings. Welcome to the Electrovaya Q1 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, John Gibson, CFO. You may begin.
Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call to discuss Electrovaya's Q1 2025 financial results. Today's call is being hosted by Dr. Raj DasGupta, CEO of Electrovaya, and myself, John Gibson, CFO. Today, Electrovaya issued a press release concerning its business highlights and financial results for the three-month period ending December 31, 2024. If you would like a copy of the release, you can access it on our website. If you would like to view our financial statements and management discussion and analysis, you can access those documents on the new SEDAR+ website at www.sedarplus.ca or on the SEC EDGAR website at sec.gov/edgar. As with previous calls, our comments today are subject to the normal provisions relating to forward-looking information. We will provide information relating to our current views regarding market trends, including their size and potential for growth, and our competitive position within our target markets. Although we believe that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, they do obviously involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and about material factors or assumptions applied in making forward-looking statements may be found in the company's press release announcing the Q1 fiscal 2025 results and the most recent Annual Information Form and Management Discussion and Analysis under Risks and Uncertainties, as well as in other public disclosure documents filed with Canadian security regulatory authorities and their equivalent in the U.S. Also, please note that all numbers discussed on the call are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise noted. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Raj.
Thank you, John, and good evening, everyone. It is a pleasure to address you today as we discuss our Q1 fiscal year 2025 quarter. This quarter was marked by several groundbreaking milestones that underline the strength of our business and our trajectory for growth. I'll highlight a few of the key ones here. Despite the typical weaker seasonality of Q1, we delivered a strong financial performance with $11.2 million in revenue achieving over 30% margins and our seventh consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. During the quarter, we secured a $51 million direct loan approval from the Export-Import Bank of the United States under the bank's Make More in America initiative, a pivotal step towards expanding our lithium-ion cell manufacturing in Jamestown, New York. This move will not only increase capacity but also improve margins and enable larger-scale projects. In order to support closing conditions and support bank refinancing activities, we embarked on a successful equity raise with gross proceeds of about $12.8 million, which was led by excellent institutions with a long-term mindset. It is great to see that support, especially as it has been a difficult market for clean technology in general. This equity round was sufficient to meet the requirements of EXIM and the North American banking partner we are working with, which was a key condition for both parties. Furthermore, it has led to significant strengthening of our balance sheet and financial position, which has allowed us to accelerate our Jamestown battery system assembly plans. Further on that point, we decided to accelerate our plans for battery system assembly operations at the Jamestown facility. Similar assembly equipment that is currently used at our existing Ontario facility has been procured, some of which is already installed and hiring key personnel is well underway. I anticipate being able to commence commercial operations by April 2025. However, we have the capability to further accelerate this if necessary. The start of assembly in Jamestown will help support ramp-up in overall production, while also supporting the company's mitigation strategy with respect to potential trade barriers. Overall, I believe Electrovaya has a robust tariff mitigation strategy, portions of which are already being implemented. With regards to sales, Electrovaya continues to see good momentum from its two material handling OEM partners and end customers of its material handling products. As some of you may have noticed, Toyota Material Handling and Raymond Corporation are merging under Toyota Material Handling North America. I believe this will ultimately be beneficial to Electrovaya as it will streamline some of our activities. A recently introduced leasing program with one of our OEM partners has demonstrated high sales interest and has already led to encouraging traction. Furthermore, the company has seen momentum growing from one of its key end customers for repowering existing warehouse infrastructure with Electrovaya batteries. Also a positive sign is our current largest operator of battery equipment, a Fortune 100 retailer, who has indicated renewed demand for Electrovaya products. We are seeing increasing activity in other sectors and are on track to ship our first modules to a global construction OEM in Japan later this quarter. In Japan, we've had a flurry of interest through our partnership with Sumitomo Corporation with other prospective OEMs, which I believe some of which will turn into material contracts. There are also a number of projects in development for autonomous vehicle applications, which includes everything from warehousing products to defense vehicles. Our high voltage battery products continue to be seeded in a wide variety of potential applications. Our solid-state developments continue to make progress. Today, we have touched cell cycling consistently to over 200 cycles. We have achieved a proof of concept for scalable manufacturing of solid state separators and our current focus is on increasing the scale of manufacturing processes and optimizing the cell chemistry. By far our highest near-term priority remains ensuring that the Jamestown facility is financed to produce our world-beating lithium-ion battery products. We are currently in the process of finalizing loan documentation with both EXIM and a leading North American bank for their respective financing packages to support both the Jamestown expansion as well as improve the company's overall working capital position. There has been substantial progress and I would say most of the documentation is substantially advanced. We continue to anticipate closing these facilities almost simultaneously and during the current quarter. With that, I'd like to pass the call back to John Gibson who will go into the financial results in more detail.
Thanks, Raj. Revenue for Q1 2025 was $11.2 million, compared to $12.1 million in Q1 2024, with the decrease being due to delivery timing rather than production or order volume. Q1 is, as in the past, affected by seasonal shutdowns from our customers with little to no deliveries made in the last two weeks of the quarter. The company also had approximately $1 million of finished goods awaiting shipment at the end of the quarter. As we previously stated, we had $20 million of orders pushed out of the 2024 fiscal year as a result of customer delays. However, I'm happy to say that we have started to ship those orders during this quarter and will continue throughout Q2 and Q3. We also continue to move closer to our breakeven point of $50 million and maintain our 2025 revenue guidance with a ramp-up beginning Q2 2025. Gross margin for the quarter was 30.5%, an increase on the prior quarter figure of 29.2%. Battery system margin was slightly higher at 30.8% for the year. Gross margins will vary based on product mix and timing, and management is focused on maintaining strong margins throughout 2025 and beyond. Although our operating loss slightly increased year-over-year, it is important to note that the company had approximately $340,000 of non-recurring operating expenses in the quarter with no corresponding expenses in the prior year. This obviously has a material impact on our operating profit. Our adjusted EBITDA was $0.5 million, which is flat to the prior year. We have now recorded seven consecutive quarters of positive adjusted EBITDA. This gives us a strong capability to continue our growth plans and support operations going forward. Overall, the net loss for the quarter was $0.4 million, compared to $0.2 million in the prior year. Were it not for the one-off costs mentioned, then we would have been close to breakeven for this quarter. The company generated positive cash flow provided by operation activities of $1 million and negative net changes in working capital of $1.2 million compared to overall positive cash flow from operations of $0.5 million in the prior year. The company ended Q1 2025 with positive net working capital of $12.6 million compared to negative net working capital of $0.4 million in the prior year. This demonstrates the continued improved financial and operational performance of the company and management is committed to continuing this positive trend. At December 31, 2024, total debt was $15.3 million compared to $18.4 million in the prior year. Management continues to manage cash conservatively, and as Raj mentioned, we are close to refinancing our working capital facility, which will reduce our overall financing costs and provide us with additional working capital headroom as we increase production in 2025. We believe we have adequate liquidity to support our anticipated growth for the fiscal year. That concludes the financial overview. I'll turn the call over to Raj for concluding remarks.
Thank you, John. In closing, Electrovaya started fiscal year 2025 on the right note. Our technology is industry-leading and the general focus globally, and especially in the United States, on domestic manufacturing works to our favor. Electrovaya, in my opinion, has never been in a better position for success. That concludes our remarks this evening. John and I would now be pleased to hold a question-and-answer session.
Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from Daniel Magder with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Hi guys, thank you for taking my call today. Just a few questions from my end, sounds like existing facilities, rather than new builds are becoming more of an opportunity for at least one customer. Do you expect other customers to follow suit?
Yes. Existing facilities represent a larger opportunity size. This particular customer started out using our technology in new facilities. They saw the benefits in those facilities and made a strategic decision to start implementing our technology across their existing infrastructure. So that was a great thing to see. We expect to see some more of that with other major end customers, and that's really our strategy. They get to see the product sometimes when they're making new investments and they see those benefits and then they expand that to existing infrastructure. So it's definitely a good sign. Something we'd like to see more of, and that's something I would expect to see more of in the coming years.
Got it. And I've got some discussions with customers. Any indication that the current U.S. administration's policies will potentially lead to delays in orders?
We haven't seen that at all thus far. I think the policies have provided some anxiety with respect to potential price increases, but beyond that, no. In fact, I'd say that some customers are trying to get their orders in sooner in fear that prices might go up.
Got it. All right, well, thanks. I'll jump back into the queue.
The next question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Hey, so just on the EXIM Bank loan, can you talk about steps left to finalize it? And maybe it's simply you're almost there and you've just got last few things to tie up. So that would be first. And then, just curious, there's obviously a lot of noise around the new administration and funding, and I know that's primarily the infrastructure bill and the IRA, but just wondering, level of confidence in closing this loan against the current political backdrop.
Yes. In response to your first question, we are at the stage of finalizing the necessary conditions and have already met them. We are currently preparing the loan documents. Two banks are involved: EXIM and a large North American bank managing the working capital. These banks need to collaborate, and there are intercreditor agreements to consider. The documents involved are complex and require significant legal review, but we are making good progress and expect to complete everything this quarter. Regarding your second question, both John and I recently visited Washington. EXIM remains stable and is not impacted by the changes you mentioned. We are confident in closing this loan. Overall, our project aligns well with the objectives of the new administration, focusing on U.S. manufacturing and bringing it back from overseas. It is a strategic initiative, and the EXIM initiative we are part of is termed Make More in America, which resonates with the current administration's goals. Therefore, we believe we are well positioned.
Okay. That's a good color. And maybe just turning to Sumitomo you mentioned, I think you're quote a flurry of interest in that. I mean, I'm just curious, is that interest in a like product, so in construction equipment or is that for other applications? And if so, what are those applications?
Most of the interest is coming from the construction space. So while we had already signed up last year with this global construction OEM in Japan and that was through Sumitomo. There's a second one we're very close to closing and there are a few others actually we're in discussions with in Japan. As you may know, there are quite a few large OEMs in the construction space that are based there. So great progress overall and we're shipping our first modules to Japan this quarter.
Got it. That's right. Okay, perfect. And then last one for me. I know you reiterated the guidance in Q1. It was I think pretty aligned with what your expectation was. Can you just remind us of kind of linearity of revenues or expectations throughout the remainder of fiscal 2025?
Yes, it should be onwards and upwards. So we're current quarter, we've ramped up assembly. We're also getting ready to put that into Jamestown. So I would say every quarter should see some increases. We're expecting to see that throughout the quarters.
Okay. It's been gradual. Is there a quarter, considering the current backlog, where you anticipate a potential increase?
I think each quarter is probably going to be a step up from the previous one.
The next question comes from Craig Irwin with Roth Capital. Please proceed.
Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. Raj, can you maybe give us an update on the new markets where you're going to see important deliveries this year that kind of lay the foundation for growth over the next couple of years? I mean, you've talked about mining, robotics, rail, military, and other opportunities. What's changed or maybe what's the update that you can share with us at this point?
Yes. So Craig, great question. So it is a smorgasbord of opportunities. These are what I would call seeding opportunities which go into it takes time for new products to go into scale. An OEM customer will take roughly two years to scale something up. But we're in a lot of places, as you mentioned, robotics, where we're building modules and packs specifically for various partners. We've seen repeat orders recently from AGV, OEMs that we hadn't seen orders from for quite a long time. So that's positive. And then like you said, mining, construction, electric trucks are a topic that's come up again, and defense. What we're seeing is, I would say these opportunities are heating up partly because we added some staff in the U.S. on the sales front, but I think partly, potentially because our competition is not doing too well. And so we're seeing some opportunities coming up from probably OEM customers who are looking to switch suppliers.
Understood, understood. So then you've had some new products that you've been talking about for a while and I know you've been testing those with different customers and they're sort of at the early stages of rollout. Can you maybe talk about how these high-power products are expanding your opportunity for this year? Do you expect them to make a material contribution to the mix, and are they important for serving these customers that have historically used another supplier?
Yes. The main objective with these opportunities is to increase our demand starting from 2026. In fiscal 2025, we are seeing some revenue from these opportunities, but it is minor compared to our material handling revenue. By 2026 and 2027, we aim to have a diverse range of applications. We are confident in this growth based on the progress we have made with some of these opportunities, which are still in the early stages. These span various sectors including defense, trucks, and AGVs, resulting in a strong list of applications.
Great. And then, last question if I may. Can you maybe describe for us the process you went through with EXIM to bring the supply chain to North America? Can you maybe talk about your selection of anode and cathode suppliers, other materials used in the battery manufacturing, other equipment used in battery manufacturing, and how sort of North American centric this is? And then has the financing for Jamestown from EXIM and the improved visibility on that facility changed customer conversations in North America maybe led to a different character or volume of discussions with these important U.S. and Canadian customers?
Yes. So our main objective with the EXIM and Jamestown, in particular, is to make a domestically produced lithium-ion cell with Electrovaya technology and to diversify our supply chain, fundamentally to have a fully North American base. It's going to go in stages. I think first, we're going to rely on some supply chains from Korea and Japan. And then, as time goes on, more and more will be domestic. But from the get-go, we will not be reliant on anything from the PRC and that was one of the goals with EXIM, and that includes the manufacturing equipment as well. So that's what we're heading towards. We've qualified those materials over the last almost a year, so we're well on our way on that process. To your second point, most definitely that domestic manufacturing and our exciting technology is bringing in interest from parties who are specifically looking for that. So just last week, we got approached by another large defense contractor and that's an opportunity that we were not expecting. So these are the types of things that we could see more of especially after things start moving more substantially in Jamestown.
Excellent. Well, congratulations on the progress there. I'll hop back in the queue.
The next question comes from Jeffrey Campbell with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed.
Thank you and congratulations on a good quarter. Raj, you are guiding 2025 revenues to exceed $60 million just high level. What part or parts of the business might represent upsides of that estimate and maybe what aspects might put that estimate at risk?
I believe everything could provide potential upside, particularly in the material handling area. The $60 million figure is a conservative estimate, as detailed in our FLI, but it could definitely increase. We are still early in the fiscal year, and I expect we will offer more specific guidance next quarter. For now, we want to maintain a cautious and conservative approach. There are many opportunities that could significantly impact our results.
Okay, well, good. We'll stay tuned to that. The press release noted growing rental traction through an OEM. So two questions there. One, is it reasonable to assume that some of this new traction includes a new customer mix that's more sensitive to upfront capital costs? And the other, in contrast, why is one of your largest customers choosing rentals for its existing warehouses instead of just buying new batteries as they would for a great deal of units?
It wasn't referring to rentals; it was a leasing. So if you think about our two OEM partners, there's Raymond and there's Toyota Material Handling. And now they're coming under the same umbrella where they already are in the same umbrella even more so. What we find is there's a certain segment of customers, which prefers to lease equipment and that type of customer typically has not used our products because they're more expensive. With this higher residual value leasing, which worked out in partnership with the OEM, taking into account the historical performance of the batteries, the cycle life, the reliability, the warranty rates, et cetera. And with all that came up with a pretty strong financial package to provide the customers, and that's been a very successful program, very new, launched in late October, and it's already generated that particular OEM more business for us than all of last year.
So if I understand it, what we might say here is that this particular customer left to their own devices, might have just leased equipment from the get-go, but they tried your equipment out in the greenfield space and presumably had to pay for it because there wasn't a leasing package then they liked it. And in the meantime, Toyota, Raymond, and Electrovaya have put together a package for leasing that they really like and that might be what they would have preferred to begin with and you're seeing the result with a strong leasing response. Is that kind of the way I think of it?
Yes. I'd say you're pretty close. If you think about who uses this equipment. There are the big retailers, who are our bread and butter currently, and they generally know what they're looking for. They're looking at life cycle costs. They want the best battery, and they take our battery. Then there are third-party logistics companies who are operating facilities or other parties. They're looking for five-year contracts and the leasing model works extremely well for those types of customers, and that's what we're seeing, this new attraction.
Okay. Yes, that's really helpful. My last question is kind of turning the tariff question around. Is there any fear that retaliatory tariffs say in Japan or elsewhere in Asia might slow down Electrovaya's ability to export into that region?
We don't think so. We'll see; tariffs make a lot of news. Thus far there hasn't really been anything there. So we'll wait to see what happens.
Up next is Jeff Grampp with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed, Jeff.
Good evening, guys. Curious, on the EXIM loan, does the timing of closing that understanding, it's hopefully in the next 45, 60 days. But does the timing of that closing have any effect positively or negatively with respect to the timelines to operationalize either the system or sell manufacturing operations at Jamestown? Or are those largely independent events in a sense?
Yes, I'd say they're independent events. We've already started placing the longest lead time orders on equipment, so they're independent events.
Okay, great, great. And my follow-up on the acceleration of the timeline to do the systems in Jamestown, pretty clear the benefits to the extent there's any tariffs or trade-related kind of macro issues to deal with. But are there any business-specific reasons outside of trade that it makes sense to accelerate into Jamestown? Can you hit on kind of the business-specific operational benefit synergies, things of that nature would be helpful? Thanks.
Yes. On the business side, we're trying to build up a team in Jamestown who will ultimately be building battery packs, battery modules, and battery cells. So the sooner that team gets familiar with making battery systems, the better. So we're taking this as a good opportunity to get that started and in place. The second reason is capacity. We're seeing growth in demand, and it makes sense instead of having another shift in Mississauga, to start a first shift in Jamestown. So overall, it's a no-brainer. You get out of your comfort zone a little bit. You got to train a new team and add in more equipment, but it's something we would do anyway.
We already have a number of grants and tax incentives available to us in Jamestown, so we're trying to utilize those sooner rather than later.
Understood. And just a related one to sneak in. Is the main accelerant human capital solution? I mean, is it basically hiring and training that is the main bottleneck, if you will, in terms of how fast you can accelerate startup there or what other factors are at play?
That's the main one. The equipment, a lot of it's already been installed now and the team there, the head of operations in Jamestown is extremely familiar with assembly of our batteries already; he has to train the rest of the team that he's hiring. And there will be a lot of people going back and forth from Ontario to New York to enable that training.
Okay. We've reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.
Well, that concludes our call and thank you all for listening. We look forward to speaking again after we report our second quarter 2025 results. Have a wonderful evening.
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