Genpact LTD Q3 FY2024 Earnings Call
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Auto-generated speakersGood day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2024 Third Quarter Genpact Limited Earnings Conference Call. My name is Cherrie, and I will be your conference moderator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. The replay of the call will be archived and made available on the IR section of Genpact's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Krista Bessinger, Head of Investor Relations at Genpact. Please proceed.
Thank you, Cherrie. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Genpact's Q3 2024 earnings conference call. We hope you've had a chance to read our earnings press release posted on the Investor Relations section of our website, genpact.com. Today, we have with us BK Kalra, President and CEO; and Mike Weiner, Chief Financial Officer. BK will start with a high-level overview of the quarter and then Mike will cover our financial performance in greater detail before we take your questions. Please note that during this call, we will make forward-looking statements, including statements about our business outlook, strategies and long-term goals. These comments are based on our plans, predictions and expectations as of today, which may change over time. Actual results could differ materially due to a number of important risks and uncertainties, including the risk factors in our 10-K and 10-Q filings with the SEC. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. We have reconciled those to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. And finally, this call in its entirety is being webcast from our Investor Relations website and an audio replay and transcript will be available on our website in a few hours. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to BK.
Thank you, Krista. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report another strong quarter with accelerating revenue growth and continued market share gains. Revenue reached $1.21 billion, up 7% year-over-year above the high-end of our guidance range with accelerating growth driven by Data-Tech-AI and healthy supporting growth from Digital Operations. Gross margin of 5.6% and adjusted operating income margin of 17.6% also exceeded our expectations as we invest to drive growth, while also delivering operating efficiency. We talk a lot about execution here at Genpact and we are equally focused on innovation. Both are delivering results. I'll give you some color on innovation and how it is leading to accelerating growth. We are now on track to deliver 6% revenue growth in 2024 at the midpoint, up from 2% in 2023 with adjusted EPS expected to grow faster than revenue for the fourth year in a row. Relentless execution on our 3+1 Framework is delivering results and we will continue to build our execution and innovation muscle with a sharp focus on partnerships, comprehensive Data-Tech-AI solutions, simplification and the plus one in our 3+1 Framework, which is about establishing Genpact as our own best credential for AI-led transformation. Let me walk you through the key highlights on each. First, on partnerships, we continue to see a meaningful opportunity to accelerate revenue growth as we increase the strength of our partner relationships. We started ramping investments in our partnership organization at the beginning of the year and continue to make meaningful progress. We have made a number of important announcements since our last earnings call. I'll highlight a couple of recent ones. The first is our proprietary Finance Data Hub powered by Databricks data intelligence platform. This AI-led solution provides CFOs and their teams with faster access to accurate data to improve decision-making and boost operational efficiency. And we are very proud to have achieved GenAI competency in AWS consulting services. This is a significant accomplishment and we now hold a full suite of data, analytics, machine learning, AI and GenAI competencies available with AWS. Second, on Data-Tech-AI. Our focus on delivering comprehensive solutions is driving accelerating growth with Data-Tech-AI revenue up 9% year-over-year, more than double our growth in the second quarter. Both innovation and execution are at play here. GenAI is significantly expanding our total addressable market. While the absolute numbers are still small, GenAI bookings were up meaningfully quarter-over-quarter. We now have approximately 130 GenAI solutions in production environments with clients, clients either deployed or going live, up more than 60% versus the previous quarters. GenAI is not just about productivity, it's about generating long-term value. By combining the power of Genpact's advanced technology expertise, industry knowledge and operational excellence, we are empowering clients to accelerate their GenAI journeys and achieve transformative outcomes. This innovation was at the heart of the AI Day we hosted in early October. The event brought together more than 100 clients and partners to learn about the latest advances in generative AI, machine learning, data and analytics at Genpact. The theme was AI of now with a specific focus on how Genpact is turning innovation into direct business outcomes for clients today. We are proud that a number of our valued clients and partners were on stage, be it Sysco Foods, Advantage Solutions, Resolution Life or others and it was our clients who shared how our solutions are driving meaningful value in their organizations. I'll give you a few examples. First, Mondelez International, one of the world's largest CPG companies, spoke about the Genpact CFO Action Hub that provides real-time predictive insights with a conversational interface and recommended next best actions. Our tailored AI solution built on Google Gemini Pro streamlines finance operations, identifies actionable insights and enhances the overall customer experience. Each client brought a unique perspective on leveraging our solutions to address their specific challenges. Penske Transportation Solutions and industry leaders in transportation and logistics spoke about Genpact's AI-based demand planning and forecasting solution. The Genpact model takes into account all fleet details, vendor availability, pricing, on-site storage and logistics to improve vehicle uptime and lower inventory costs. And insurance being a key sector for us, Liberty Mutual Insurance, one of the largest global property and casualty insurers, spoke about the claim resolution and the solution we developed for them and leveraging Amazon Bedrock and Genpact proprietary data to drive more efficient claim processing. Apart from these client stories, we also demonstrated a number of AI-enabled solutions at the AI Day across many competencies, including finance and accounting, supply chain or insurance, illustrating how the combined power of industry knowledge, data, and artificial intelligence can transform business processes and drive superior value. I'll highlight just one of these solutions, which is our Genpact solution for accounts payable. Powered by our proprietary LLMs, our solution leverages machine learning and GenAI to increase automation across this end-to-end business process, achieving significantly more productivity than existing solutions. It reduces the cost of operation, improves working capital and enhances the finance user experience. Coming back to the third element in our 3+1 Framework, which is simplification, we continue to streamline our operations so that we can scale more efficiently. As an example, we have taken steps to simplify our cash-to-collection process, which is delivering improvement in time-to-bill and operating cash flow. In addition, we are both simplifying and further automating our own accounts payable process, resulting in improved working capital as well. And finally, on leading with Genpact as our best credential for AI-led transformation, we continue to make meaningful progress. I'll give you one example, which we also covered in detail at AI Day. We now have a family of AI agents called Scout available to every Genpact employee. Scout brings the power of AI to everyday work with summarizing documents or translating content. For specialized functions like HR and IT, we are also customizing our agents to solve more complex problems. Still in early stages of adoption, we have over 20 agents in production today with many more in development. In the process of developing Scout, we also created our own agent development life cycle. This is different from the classic software development life cycle with a specific focus on model selection, training and management, allowing us to generate AI agents with greater speed and accuracy. Now turning to guidance. With another quarter of better-than-expected results, we are raising our outlook again for the full year. We are increasing revenue guidance by 150 basis points at the midpoint with 6% growth now expected on as reported basis, up from 4.5% previously. We are also increasing gross and AOI margin for the full year by 10 basis points each and we are raising our outlook of adjusted EPS to $3.24 with an approximate $0.08 increase at the midpoint of the range to reflect strong year-to-date performance. As we look ahead to 2025, we are optimistic about the results we can deliver, both for our clients and for our shareholders. That said, there is significant work ahead. Our journey at Genpact is not just about adopting the latest technology, it is about fundamentally reimagining how we deliver transformative value and operational excellence for our clients. We are off to a good start, but remain heads-down, focused on execution and innovation and building what's next for Genpact. In closing, we see a bright future ahead. GenAI is expanding our total addressable market and we believe we are well-positioned with our unique combination of data, technology and domain. We are also proud of the performance we have delivered year-to-date. The changes we are making, while not easy, are improving execution and innovation across the board, but perhaps most importantly in Data, Tech and AI. I witnessed the incredible dedication of the Genpact team every day and the immense value we bring to clients. I want to thank every one of our employees for their incredible passion. With that, let me turn the call over to Mike.
Thanks, BK. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us as we review our third quarter results and discuss our positioning for the remainder of the year. We saw strong performance in the third quarter, with 7% revenue growth, 12% adjusted diluted EPS growth, and an increase in cash flow generation. Our pipeline is at record levels, showcasing a diverse mix of deal sizes. We achieved win rates of 43% for the quarter, with sole-sourced deals making up about 42% of total bookings. We also onboarded 21 new clients and secured three significant deals this quarter, defined as contracts valued at $50 million or more. Our client base is expanding, with the number of clients generating over $5 million in annual revenue reaching a record high of $188 million in this quarter. We also increased the count of clients contributing more than $25 million in revenue to 43, with five clients now generating over $100 million annually, highlighting how solutions drive their successes. Looking at the income statement, our total revenue was $1.211 billion, reflecting roughly a 7% year-over-year increase on both reported and constant-currency bases. This solid performance highlights our disciplined execution. Data, Tech, and AI revenue reached $569 million, which is a 9% year-over-year increase in both reported and constant currency terms, driven by all components contributing to a total of 47% of our revenue for the quarter. Digital Operations revenue was $642 million, growing 5% on both bases, primarily due to new deal additions, contributing 53% of total revenue. Revenue from outcome and consumption-based deals, excluding fixed-fee contracts, made up 20% of total revenue, marking a 17% increase from last year. Priority accounts contributed 62% of total revenue with approximately 4% year-over-year growth. All three segments saw healthy growth, with consumer and healthcare revenue rising about 8%, while both high-tech and manufacturing as well as financial services increased by around 6% compared to last year. Transitioning to profitability, we expanded our gross margin to 35.6%, up 10 basis points from the same quarter last year. Alongside increased revenue growth, our productivity improvements helped reduce SG&A expenses by 10 basis points year-over-year to 20.1% of revenue, attributable to higher sales investments being offset by G&A optimization. Our adjusted operating income margin rose by 40 basis points year-over-year to 17.6%. The effective tax rate was 24.3%, compared to 24.1% in the previous year. Net income for the quarter was $133 million, a 13% year-over-year increase. Diluted EPS rose to $0.74, reflecting a 16% increase year-over-year. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted diluted EPS was $0.85, marking a 12% year-over-year increase from the previous period. Significantly, EPS growth has consistently outpaced revenue growth this year, with year-to-date adjusted diluted EPS growth at 10% against 6% revenue growth. We achieved a 41% year-over-year increase in operating cash flow, delivering $228 million, bolstered by higher revenues and improved working capital. On the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $1 billion, up $541 million from last year, largely thanks to proceeds from a debt issuance last quarter, intended to repay a bond maturing at the end of this month. Consequently, our net debt to last twelve months EBITDA ratio remained at the low end of our range at 0.8 times for the quarter. Days Sales Outstanding (DSOs) were noted at 90 days, and the overall credit quality of our portfolio remains strong. As we invest for long-term growth, we are also returning significant capital to our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. In the first nine months of the year, we returned nearly $0.25 billion, which includes $75 million for repurchasing 1.9 million shares and $27 million in dividends during the third quarter. Our disciplined capital allocation approach, which aims to return at least 30% of cash flow from operations through share repurchases and 20% via dividend payments, demonstrates our commitment to generating shareholder value while retaining flexibility for strategic growth investments. Attrition for the quarter was 25%, which is 100 basis points lower than the previous period. Now regarding guidance, we are increasing our forecast with improved visibility for the remainder of the year. We are raising our revenue projection for the full year by approximately 150 basis points to 6% at the midpoint. Additionally, we are increasing our projected growth for the adjusted operating income margin by 10 basis points, bringing it to 35.4% and 17.1%, respectively. Our adjusted diluted EPS forecast is also rising by about $0.08, now expected to reach $3.24 at the midpoint. Operating cash flow projections for the full year are being revised upward by $35 million, leading to a new total outlook of $560 million. For the upcoming fourth quarter, we anticipate total revenue ranging from $1.222 billion to $1.233 billion, with growth in Data, Tech and AI and Digital Operations projected at 9% and 5.4%, respectively, at the midpoint of the range. We expect our gross margin to be 35.6% and our adjusted operating income margin to be 17.6%. For the full year, we project total revenue between $4.740 billion and $4.751 billion on a reported basis, indicating 6% revenue growth at the midpoint of our range, up from 4.5% previously, due to our solid year-to-date performance and ongoing strength across the business. We now expect growth in Data, Tech, and AI and Digital Operations to be 6.2% and 5.9% for the full year at the midpoint. We are also raising our adjusted diluted EPS forecast by approximately $0.08 at the midpoint to a range of $3.23 to $3.24. This expected $0.26 year-over-year increase will be driven by higher adjusted operating income of $0.19, a $0.09 advantage from a reduced share count, partially offset by $0.02 related to higher interest expenses and anticipated tax impacts. In closing, we are pleased with our results, showing profitable growth while making key investments for the future. With that, I will turn the call over to Krista.
Great. Thank you, Mike, and Cherrie, we're ready to take questions.
Yes, it's actually Jared Levine on for Brian tonight. Over the last 90 days, has there been any improvement in the short-cycle projects in advisory work? It was good to see that strong DTA growth, but just curious if that benefited it?
Yes. I think overall it is - can you hear me okay?
Yes.
Okay. So there has been overall, I think strong execution that is driving this result. I think we continue to see stable business environment, but stronger execution is helping us deliver better results.
BK let me quickly just add on to that. If you're referring to our DTA component of our growth, right, we're continuing to execute really well on advanced technologies, led solutions that also are involving a lot of generative AI and AI-related initiatives. So we're pretty pleased with our performance this quarter within Data, Tech and AI.
Okay, great. And then can you provide an update on your progress on expanding partnership source revenue? Who are your most important partnerships currently and which are the fastest-growing?
Yes. I think the way to think about it is, you know, think of hyperscalers, so be it in AWS or Microsoft or Google, as you can imagine, they continue to be strong partners for us or people like ServiceNow, Salesforce, and then very specific domain-led solutions where we bring in a number of these partners. And in each of these partners, the differentiation is we are building our proprietary solutions on the top, which can act as a multiplier effect as we continue to enhance developments and bring in our operational keystroke knowledge and keystroke understanding in these domain solutions for our clients.
Yes. Let me quickly add to that. When considering partnerships and their contribution to revenue, it remains relatively low compared to the industry overall. Our investments in partnerships, including those mentioned by BK, are currently generating substantial revenue for us, and we will assess how this evolves in the future. Sorry for interrupting you.
Great. Thank you.
Hi, It's Kate on for Maggie. Congrats on the nice results today. My first question is, what parts of the Data-Tech-AI business do you feel like are resonating the most with clients right now that's really driving that accelerated growth?
It is all parts of the Data-Tech-AI and I would not say that there is only AI or GenAI, yes, that is certainly helping us. But with that, any of the GenAI conversation is not complete without data. And then obviously, it is the underlying technology and the various applications and our understanding there and how those applications need to evolve. So it is a more holistic approach in Data-Tech-AI, point number one. Point number two, I think in all of our Digital Operations, I do not know of any, you know, large deal or even medium-sized deal, which we bring to our clients' attention and execute and book without Data-Tech-AI. In each of these Digital Operations deals, our Data-Tech-AI is always a significant or a pretty strong component and both of those attributes are changing our game in Data-Tech-AI.
Okay, great. Thank you, BK. And then just going off of that a little bit, during the AI Day that you held, are you starting to get the sense that customers are getting a little bit more comfortable with the generative AI technology as time progresses?
Yes. I would still say it is early days, but clearly a lot more adoption is happening. Clearly, there is a change from just the interest or proof-of-concept to more putting the solution in production environments. And what was quite endearing for us that we had a number of our clients on the stage and operators in our clients who were talking about how it is generating meaningful value and that is always a little bit more credible because other clients are listening to those stories and how that replicability can happen. So yes, it is making pretty good progress. I would still say it's early days.
Okay, great. Thank you, guys. Congrats on the quarter.
Thank you.
Yes, thanks for taking my question. So if we think about Q4, it implies about 6% year-over-year organic constant FX growth. Is that sort of a good starting point if we think about 2025 growth expectations or any one-off that we should be thinking about as we look into next year?
Let me start by passing it over to you, BK. When considering our business, I believe you're referencing our guidance for the fourth quarter and the full year, which indicates a projected growth of 6% and 7% for the fourth quarter. We'll provide formal guidance in three months. However, we continue to see a stable buying environment to build from. Overall, it has been a good year for us, providing a stronger comparison for growth. We are optimistic about our position for both the fourth quarter and the full year.
Yes, I agree with what Mike mentioned about the positive progress we’re making in execution and innovation. However, I want to emphasize that we are just getting started. While we may be a small company, we have significant potential. Although we are focused on execution, it is still early in our journey. We have had a successful year, which will lead to tougher comparisons moving forward. In about 90 days, we will provide more specific guidance for 2025, and overall, I feel optimistic about our current position. The buying environment remains stable, and we will assess how our clients respond in early January, providing more detailed guidance in the next couple of months.
Awesome. Thank you. And then in terms of just outcome-based pricing, I remember last quarter you noted about 20% was outcome-based. Can you give an update on what percent is outcome-based now in Q3? And then I guess what's causing this acceleration is GenAI, I think you noted last quarter talking about how GenAI-type deals will be more outcome-based than on materials. Maybe just thinking about that dynamic.
Sure. So you're starting at the second part of your question, that will absolutely drive more outcome-based alternative commercial model solutions. We had about 20% of our total revenue attributed to that classification of revenue. But it's important to look at, while it's relatively flat sequentially, 20%, it's up from 17% a year ago. So we're quite bullish on that. And we're also quite bullish on the industry itself, continue to pivot to these alternative commercial models, particularly as generative AI point-based solutions and solutions in total continue to gain traction.
Awesome. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. BK, can you maybe provide a bit more color around your commentary that you're at this point expecting a larger TAM for these set of services? Just any color on how you think about that? Is it just there's a lot more breadth of services or that you can look at from a client perspective or is it just a broader range of technologies that you plan on working with, how should we think about that?
Yes, what we are seeing in our pipeline is an increase in the scope of activity because clients are now considering attributes they previously overlooked, which GenAI has helped to highlight. In certain discussions, GenAI is enabling us to offer more comprehensive end-to-end solutions. Additionally, reflecting on AI Day, many of our clients are now engaging us for domain-led AI solutions that they hadn't considered before, and these solutions can be both standalone and integrated. This is expanding our total addressable market. Furthermore, data, which used to be a peripheral topic, has become central to conversations. While clients were aware of AI and GenAI, it now feels very tangible. As a result, our data-led discussions are strengthening our position in data and analytics, which is contributing to the growth of our Data-Tech franchise. Overall, we are observing a more holistic approach in the pipeline, which I wanted to share with you.
That's helpful. And then when we think about the acceleration in the growth that you're seeing in what I think you're describing as a relatively stable demand environment. Any color around maybe why now? I understand or I hear you on the execution part of it, but is it that you feel like you've built certain proprietary solutions that you can take to the clients that are perhaps mature enough from an AI perspective or offered perspective where it's differentiated or are clients just a bit more willing to you know, maybe open up the budget a little bit more if they see something that's interesting? I'm just trying to understand the magnitude of the improvement that you're seeing and how we should think about that on a go forward basis.
What I will go back to, Surinder, is our 3+1 Framework. And in that execution as well as innovation, I think both of those elements in a stable demand environment are helping us deliver better. So when I say three-plus one, including partnership, is it becoming a stronger muscle and we are still at early days. It is clearly showing results and that's what we are sharing with you and a lot of that is sitting in Data-Tech-AI. Similarly, in the Data-Tech-AI as our second pivot within our second key initiative in three plus one, there be data, be it the AI, be it advanced technologies that we are bringing us in our solutions is helping us accelerate. And a lot of our clients find it really endearing that we are driving this transformation on ourselves doing plus one and that was also quite intriguing now for our clients at AI Day because we shared a number of these two areas where we have the entire control of data, we have the entire control of infrastructure and how we are accelerating that journey and that is still early days beginning to act as an inspiration for our clients.
Thank you.
Hi, thanks for taking my question. You've been mentioning sort of stable business demand for a number of quarters. At least turning a calendar year, what signs are you looking for your customers that could perhaps suggest a budget influx and early signs of an improved business environment?
Yes, let me start with that. From our perspective, as you mentioned, we are not observing any indications that align with our definition of a stable business environment, such as budget increases occurring for the remainder of this year and possibly into next year as organizations adjust their budgets. We have not seen that trend and are not factoring it into our current guidance. It's still early as we wrap up the third quarter and move into the fourth quarter. We will provide more guidance for next year when we meet in about a quarter, but we anticipate gaining further insights from our clients as they refine their plans for 2025.
Okay. Thank you. And then just as a quick follow-up. The percentage of sole-source deals ticked down slightly. And sort of off the back of that, I wanted to just see what the sort of pricing environment has been like if there have been any changes perhaps if there's been any sourcing of more competitive pricing, especially around generative AI projects? Thank you.
So I didn't hear the first part of your question. I'll answer the second part and maybe you can repeat it for us. Our pricing environment has remained relatively constant. We haven't seen anybody do anything kind of dramatically different. So I'd say it's a stable pricing environment. But I didn't hear the first part of your question, I apologize.
Yes, the first part of the question, I just noticed that sole-source deals, I think was 42% this quarter versus 45% last quarter. And I just was wondering if that tied into any sort of change in the pricing dynamics, but it appears that you're saying.
No, I wouldn't read much into that. Again, they're going to be lumpy in nature on sole-sourced deals. When you look at things like disproportionately on larger deals are not sole-sourced versus, you know, the sole-source deals are typically on the smaller side. So there's nothing really to read into that on a quarterly basis. They're lumpy.
Thank you. Thank you.
One moment for our next question from Puneet Jain with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Puneet, if you are on mute, please unmute your line. Again, Puneet, please open up your line.
I think, Cherrie, he might be in transit. So he may not be available to pick up.
Okay. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.
Thank you, Cherrie. And before we sign off, I just want to say thanks to all of our clients for choosing Genpact and to all of our shareholders for their ongoing support. We are excited to keep innovating and we look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
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