Warrior Met Coal, Inc. Q2 FY2025 Earnings Call
Warrior Met Coal, Inc. (HCC)
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Auto-generated speakersGood afternoon. My name is Wyatt, and I will be your conference call operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Warrior Second Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I would like to turn the call over to Brian Chopin, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Warrior's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made during this call, including statements relating to our expected future business and financial performance, may be considered forward-looking statements according to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements, by their nature, address matters that are, to different degrees, uncertain. These uncertainties, which are described in more detail in the company's annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC, may cause our actual future results to be materially different from those expected in our forward-looking statements. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as may be required by law. For more information regarding forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's press releases and SEC filings. We'll also be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to comparable GAAP financial measures in our second quarter press release furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K, which is also posted on our website. Additionally, we will be filing our Form 10-Q for the second quarter ended June 30, 2025, with the SEC this afternoon. You can find additional information regarding the company on our website at www.warriormetcoal.com, which also includes a second quarter supplemental slide deck that was posted this afternoon. Today on the call with me are Mr. Walt Scheller, Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Dale Boyles, Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we will be happy to answer any questions. With that, I will now turn the call over to Walt.
Thanks, Brian. Hello, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today to discuss our second quarter 2025 results. After my remarks, Dale will review our results in additional detail, and then you'll have the opportunity to ask questions. I'm pleased that we delivered strong operational results, maintained positive cash margins, and generated positive operating cash flows during the second quarter. These outcomes reflect the strength of our cost discipline, the flexibility of our variable cost structure, and the resilience of our team in managing volatile market conditions. I'm also excited to announce the acceleration of the Blue Creek longwall startup to early first quarter 2026. During the second quarter, we achieved the first commercial sales of steelmaking coal from Blue Creek, which was one quarter ahead of schedule. We also achieved other critical milestones in the development of the mine that allowed us to accelerate the longwall start-up. More about this in a few moments. Our markets remained under significant pressure this quarter, extending the weakness that has been firmly set for the past several quarters. The drivers underlying the weakness are the same: excess Chinese steel exports; lackluster global steel demand; and a well-supplied steelmaking coal market. First, exports of low-priced Chinese steel are up over 9% for the first five months of the year compared to 2024, which was already a record year for Chinese steel exports. Second, with the exception of India, forecasted global demand for steel has been revised downwards as a result of trade uncertainty and tepid global economic activity. And third, the seaborne steelmaking coal markets remained under pressure due to a strong supply, especially in the second-tier segment as demonstrated by strong Chinese domestic steelmaking coal production and a slowdown in Chinese imports. Pricing for our segment was also impacted by the continued resale of previously sold cargoes, as well as healthy inventory levels across most of the global supply chain. The continued market weakness, which I just described, resulted in average premium low-vol steelmaking coal index prices declining 24% compared to the second quarter last year and declining 33% year-over-year through June. Our primary index, the PLV FOB Australia stayed above the low point observed during the first quarter of 2025 and averaged $167 per short ton, which is nearly the same as the first quarter this year. Contrary to PLV FOB Australia pricing, the main second-tier indices, which are the Australian LV HCC and U.S. HVA price indices, both established their year-to-date low points in the second quarter and averaged $131 and $154 per short ton, respectively. The relative price of the LV HCC index price compared to the PLV index continues to be a major story with value significantly lower than historical values. The relative price for the second quarter averaged 78%, which was well below the 88% average for the past three and a half years and reached a multiyear low point of 76% during the second quarter. In addition, the PLV CFR China recorded a new low price point near the end of June of $143 per short ton, while averaging $151 per short ton for the second quarter. The arbitrage between the Australian FOB and China CFR indices remained closed for almost the entire quarter on the backdrop of an extremely low Chinese domestic pricing. This fact, combined with the retaliatory tariff by China on U.S. imports made sales from the U.S. into China uneconomical, and therefore, we've not sold any volume into China this year. We achieved a gross price realization of 80% for the second quarter, which was a function of relative index pricing, product mix, geography, tariffs, and freight rates. This result was lower than our annual target range of 85% to 90%, primarily due to three things: First, the LV HCC index price relative to the PLV index price has widened, as I previously mentioned; second, we sold a higher mix of high vol A product versus premium low-vol product; and third, the higher high vol A volume has been sold primarily into the Pacific Basin on a CFR basis and net of freight costs. According to the World Steel Association monthly report, global pig iron production decreased by 1.3% for the first six months of 2025 as compared to the prior year period. Pig iron production in China, which is the world's largest production region, decreased by 0.8% for the same period. The rest of the world's pig iron production experienced a decline of 2.3% for the first six months of 2025. India remains a bright spot with a growth rate of 7.1% and is expected to continue growing with new blast furnace capacity expected to come online this year. Now let me turn to our second quarter results in detail. Our strong sales volume was driven by the first commercial sales from our Blue Creek mine occurring earlier than anticipated. Our second quarter sales volume was 2.2 million short tons compared to 2.1 million in last year's same quarter, representing a 6% increase. We sold 239,000 tons of Blue Creek development steelmaking coal during the second quarter, which is a quarter earlier than anticipated and already included in our annual volume guidance. The Blue Creek tons were contractual volumes sold primarily into Asia. Our sales by geography for the second quarter break down as follows: 52% into Asia; 37% into Europe; and 11% into South America. The second quarter marks the first time in our history where sales into Asia were greater than 50% of total sales volume and did not include any sales into China. Our spot volume was 4% for the second quarter of 2025, which is primarily sold into Europe. For the full year, our spot volume is expected to be approximately 15% or less of total sales volume. Production volume in the second quarter 2025 was 2.3 million short tons compared to 2.2 million in the same quarter of last year, representing a 6% increase. Our existing mines continue to perform well and the continuous mining units at our Blue Creek mine produced 348,000 short tons during the second quarter and drove the overall increase in production volume. Our coal inventory levels remained consistent at 1.1 million tons at the end of the second quarter compared to the end of the first quarter 2025. During the second quarter, we spent $94 million on CapEx and mine development. Of that amount, CapEx spending totaled $75 million. Mine development costs for the Blue Creek project were $19 million during the second quarter and continue to be below budget as we focused on cost control. As we ramp up operations toward the longwall start-up, we expect our Blue Creek mine development costs to increase in the second half of 2025. Apart from the $52 million in Blue Creek capital expenditures, we tightly managed our capital expenditures at the existing mines to $23 million. Now let me provide you with an exciting update on our transformational Blue Creek growth project, which is ahead of schedule and on budget. The project team continued to make excellent progress during the second quarter with overall development and achieved certain milestones earlier than planned. If you allow me a moment to give our team credit that is unheard of with large-scale projects in this industry. As a result of those achievements, we've accelerated the longwall start-up of Blue Creek to early first quarter 2026. As previously mentioned, we achieved another milestone in the development of Blue Creek by selling 239,000 tons of steelmaking coal during the second quarter. These were the first commercial sales from this project and were also ahead of schedule. This marks a critical inflection point in the development of this premier asset, representing the beginning of a transition from capital investment to revenue generation. The development of the first longwall panel during the second quarter produced 348,000 short tons of steelmaking coal and remains on track to produce 1 million short tons for the full year 2025. We are pleased with the progress thus far in development and our effective management of costs. We received the final delivery of the remaining longwall shields during the second quarter, which were already to be set up underground in the next few months. In addition, our recruiting and hiring efforts for this new mine continue to be on track. We also continue to make excellent progress as we completed the installation of the truck dump, rail loadout, and module A of the preparation plant, which allowed us the ability to send the first train loads of steelmaking coal to the Port of Mobile for our first shipments to customers. We continue to ramp modules B and C at the preparation plant with the full commissioning expected in the fourth quarter of this year. We strategically invested another $52 million of capital expenditures in the second quarter and $107 million year-to-date in the Blue Creek development. That brings the total project capital expenditures to date to $823 million, which remains on budget. Our baseline total project estimate remains unchanged, ranging from $995 million to $1.075 billion.
Thanks, Walt. As Walt noted earlier, our second-quarter results demonstrate the strength of our business model, especially during adverse market conditions. We have high-quality assets, strong customer demand, and a variable cost structure that allows us to navigate volatile market conditions. In addition to a variable cost structure, especially for transportation and royalty costs, we have a strong and disciplined approach to managing all costs, including our SG&A and capital spending. We continue to make efforts to control what we can control despite adverse market conditions to generate positive financial results and outperform expectations. For the second quarter, Warrior recorded net income on a GAAP basis of about $6 million or $0.11 per diluted share compared to net income of $71 million or $1.35 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2024. These decreases in quarterly results were primarily driven by 30% lower average net selling prices and a weak market price environment, partially offset by higher sales volume and a strong focus on controlling our costs as evidenced by our ability to drive down our cash cost of sales per ton by 18% from last year. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $54 million in the second quarter of 2025 compared to $116 million in the same quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 18% in the second quarter of 2025 compared to 29% in the same quarter of last year. On a per ton basis, our adjusted EBITDA margin was $24 per short ton for the second quarter of this year compared to $55 in last year's second quarter. The decrease in quarterly results was primarily driven by 30% lower average net selling prices and a 13% higher mix of high vol A coal sold versus premium low-vol coal. This was partially offset by lower production costs, lower variable cost for transportation and royalties, and 6% higher sales volume. Total revenues were $298 million in the second quarter of this year compared to $397 million in the second quarter of 2024. The total decrease of $99 million was primarily due to a decrease in average gross selling prices of $120 million and a higher mix of high vol A volumes sold of $12 million, partially offset by the impact of higher sales volumes of $22 million. In addition, demurrage and other charges were $7 million lower compared to the second quarter of 2024. This resulted in an average net selling price of $130 per short ton in the second quarter of 2025 compared to $186 per short ton in the same quarter of last year. Cash cost of sales in the second quarter of 2025 was $225 million or 78% of mining revenues compared to $260 million or 67% of mining revenues in the second quarter of last year. Of the $35 million net decrease in cash cost of sales, $50 million of the decrease was driven primarily by the lower variable transportation and royalty cost on 24% lower average steelmaking coal price indices. In addition, we rationalized and tightly managed our spending on supplies, repairs, and maintenance expenses. These decreases were partially offset by a $15 million increase in costs associated with the 6% increase in sales volumes. Cash cost of sales per short ton, FOB port, was approximately $101 in the second quarter of this year compared to $124 in the second quarter of 2024. The decrease was primarily related to the lower variable transportation royalty cost of $15 per ton on lower steelmaking coal prices, $5 per ton of tightly managing our overall spending at the legacy mines, and a further $3 per ton from the initial sales of low-cost Blue Creek tons. While we were able to tightly manage our spending during the second quarter, some costs such as repairs and maintenance may be higher in the second half of the year. Underground mining places a significant strain on machinery and equipment, often resulting in unexpected breakdowns that require investment in repairs and maintenance to restore their operational status. Our cash cost of production for the second quarter of 2025 was 67% of our total cash cost per short ton compared to 61% in the same quarter last year. Overall, transportation and royalty costs were 33% of our cash cost of sales per short ton in the second quarter of this year on lower average net selling prices compared to 39% in the same quarter last year. As a result of the lower average net selling price, our cash margin per short ton was $29 in the second quarter this year compared to $62 in the same quarter of last year. SG&A expenses were $12 million in the second quarter of 2025 and were about $4 million lower than the second quarter of last year as we continue to manage our overall spending. This decrease was primarily due to lower employee-related expenses and professional fees. Depreciation and depletion expenses were $43 million in the second quarter of 2025 and were higher than the same quarter last year, primarily due to the additional assets placed into service at Blue Creek. Our net interest income earned from cash investments was lower in the second quarter of this year due to lower average cash balances and lower rates of return, combined with higher interest expense on newly leased equipment. Turning to cash flow. During the second quarter of 2025, free cash flow was negative $57 million. This was a result of cash flows generated by operating activities of $37 million, less cash used for capital expenditures and mine development of $94 million. Working capital increased by $14 million during the second quarter and was heavily influenced by higher inventory of Blue Creek supplies. This was partially offset by lower accounts receivable. It's important to understand that while our total free cash flow was negative for the second quarter and year-to-date, the underlying business is generating positive free cash flow if you exclude the strategic investments we are making into Blue Creek. The underlying business generated approximately $40 million of free cash flow in the second quarter, excluding the Blue Creek CapEx spending, mine development, and working capital impact. This demonstrates the strength of the underlying business during these challenging market conditions and low pricing environment. Our total available liquidity at the end of the second quarter of 2025 was $545 million and consisted of cash and cash equivalents of $383 million, short- and long-term investments of $48 million, and $114 million available under our ABL facility. Now I've discussed the second-quarter results compared to last year, let me highlight some of the achievements compared to the first quarter of 2025. Our second-quarter adjusted EBITDA of $54 million was $14 million higher than the first quarter of 2025, primarily due to a 2% higher sales and production volumes and $11 per ton lower cash cost. This improvement was partially offset by $5 per ton of lower average net selling prices, which I addressed in my earlier comments. Approximately two-thirds of the cost reductions came from our highly focused and disciplined approach to cost control, operational efficiencies, and the sales mix of Blue Creek coal with its inherently lower cost structure. The remaining one-third of cost reductions came from lower variable transportation and royalty costs.
Let me turn to our outlook and guidance for the full year 2025. As outlined in our earnings release, we have updated our guidance for the full year 2025 to better reflect the challenging market conditions and pricing environment we expect for the remainder of this year. We believe our customers' markets will continue to be challenged from a demand standpoint over the next several quarters. From a supply standpoint, we believe that current pricing levels are making a substantial portion of global supply uneconomical and that supply rationalization is needed to better balance the overall market. In addition, there continues to be uncertainty surrounding global trade and tariffs that could put additional pressure on seaborne pricing. And finally, one last note on the One Big Beautiful Bill Act that was enacted into law on July 4 of this year. The Act contains some provisions that we expect will be beneficial to Warrior, such as the permanent extension of certain expiring provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act and making a permit deduction of approximately 33% on our foreign-derived income. In addition, the Act classifies metallurgical coal as a critical mineral eligible for the tax credit under Section 45X of the Internal Revenue Code. The 45X tax credit is based upon a 2.5% credit of defined eligible production cost from 2026 through 2029 and will vary per year depending upon variable production costs during those periods. We are currently assessing the Bill's impact on our financial statements, but we do expect it to impact us positively. I'll now turn it back to Walt for his final comments. Our forward-looking view remains intact. We believe our customers' markets will continue to face headwinds through the persistence of excess Chinese steel exports amid a backdrop of weaker global economic activity. Although we're watching closely for the potential of capacity rationalization in Chinese steel production, it is not clear how and when that will occur. We're optimistic about the possibility of new trade agreements with key global partners, yet we'll proceed with caution until these agreements are officially secured. While we recognize that we're operating in an uncertain environment, we're confident that our world-class asset base, highly flexible cost structure, and a high-performing workforce will allow us to navigate successfully through the remainder of this year and beyond. With that, we would like to open the call for questions.
And your first question comes from the line of Nick Giles with B. Riley Securities.
Congratulations on such a strong quarter and for the pull forward of Blue Creek. My first question, your updated cost guidance of $110 to $120 per ton, despite a downward revision, I think, still implies that costs would be towards the higher end of that range in the second half to reach the midpoint. To me, this seems somewhat unlikely based on the strong performance year-to-date. So my question is, how should we think about cost cadence between here and the end of the year?
Thank you for the question, Nick. We had a strong quarter where we effectively managed our costs. However, as I mentioned earlier, unexpected events can occur, and we need to be prepared for those. We have made plans for the latter half of the year to account for potential issues. We will continue to carefully manage all of our costs and ensure that our mines operate at peak efficiency. However, we are also preparing for the possibility of challenges arising. Currently, we are averaging about $107 per ton year-to-date, which is at the lower end of our full-year guidance. We should anticipate a slight downside for the remainder of the year.
Got it. Okay. My second question was with Brazilian tariffs being implemented, I believe that market has historically been around 20% of volumes. How should we think about the potential for diversion? And which markets would you favor if there was a need for diversion? And how could that impact realizations?
This is Walt. I think what's really going on is, it's the additional high vol A tons that are coming into the market that typically do not flow into South America. South America was a larger part of our market when we were moving more of a mid-vol product out of Mine 4 down into South America. And now that's a high vol. So we saw some coal flowing there, but not what used to. And if you back out the Blue Creek tons, we're probably at about the same level in terms of the number of tons going to South America. It's just on a percentage basis, the number has dropped down. And I think that will pretty much continue. And as we've said before, the high vol A tons right now, especially are moving heavily into Asia.
Got it. So, Walt, could you provide a brief update on your discussions with Brazilian steelmakers? Have there been any instances where it's necessary to redirect the tons, or are they still open to receiving them?
They're still taking them.
Can I ask about Blue Creek, please? So well done firstly on bringing this forward. That's a clear win. I have two questions here. Just firstly, on costs. I'm looking back at the Blue Creek project update from February. Your cash cost of sales guidance here was $90 to $105 a short ton. Can I ask where does that sit firstly today in light of the pretty good Q2 cash performance as well? And is there potential for this to go lower? And how much of that is dependent on the denominator getting to 6 million tons?
Thank you, George. The guidance was based on a PLV price of $2.50, reflecting a price relativity that is closer to the 10-year average, which is higher than our current situation. We're just starting to ramp up, so I won't provide a specific number for Blue Creek, but it did positively impact the quarter as we begin our ramp-up. The full benefits will be realized next year when the longwall comes into play, and we haven't accounted for all the costs yet.
Dale, regarding the volume aspect, you mentioned that the 6 million tons of the expanded capacity option would depend on market conditions. Can you share your perspective on that considering the current levels? Sales into Asia now represent over half of the total. As I mentioned earlier, selling into the Pacific Basin is currently a challenge for my calculations, with spot freight rates into India around $110 per short ton. How are you viewing this situation given the weak pricing environment?
I believe what we are doing with those tons is anticipating their movement into Asia. As we've mentioned, these tons are significantly lower cost, which is attributed to the mine reserve and the thicker coal. Our expectations align with our previous projections, and nothing has surfaced to suggest otherwise. Regarding the 6 million tons, the timeline will depend on our ability to secure contractual agreements for those tons. As we approach a point where our contracted volume reaches about 80%, similar to our other mines, we will consider expanding volume. However, we will avoid saturating the spot market with excess tons that could harm pricing. Instead, as we finalize arrangements for those tons, we will gradually introduce additional volumes.
Yes. Okay. So can you give us sort of an idea of what pricing was like in the quarter for Blue Creek? I mean, compared to the average of $130, I'm guessing it was a bit lower, like was it sort of $120 we're thinking. I guess, my sort of questioning is, you called out three drags for gross realization and there's going to be more high vol A going forward and more sales into the Pacific Basin. So, I guess, is there risk to that 85% to 90% target gross realization going forward now?
Yes, George, this is Dale. Yes, there is, as you know, what happened in the quarter, right? Our gross price realization was 80%. But the biggest driver of those three factors was the price relativity. That spread widened and got as low as 76% during the quarter, which is significantly lower than the last three and a half-year average of 88%. So while the PLV didn't move much, the LV HCC dropped during the quarter. So that right there has a big drag on our net realized prices as well as freight rates, right? So we feel good about what we're doing in developing these markets in Asia that we've never sold into. And Blue Creek is the perfect product to go into those markets, especially with low cost in this part of the cycle.
Maybe staying on Blue Creek. Given that the longwall is ahead of schedule, how should we think about overall production and sales volume next year? I think in the past, it was around 3 million tons, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, I think we can safely assume that starting a quarter earlier than previously mentioned will result in an increase in tons. While we haven't stated a specific number, I believe we are nearing 4 million for next year, considering what we are currently observing and the faster timeline for the longwall coming online.
Yes. And depending on the timing, Katja, when it comes on next year, we said early first quarter, which could be anywhere from January 1 to the middle of February, kind of our thought process there. So really going to be dependent on that timing. So when we do release guidance for 2026, we'll hopefully have a little more accurate number.
I believe you mentioned that currently, the volume from Blue Creek is going to Asia, and I expect this trend to continue. Are those contracts based on CFR or FOB?
Right now, it's CFR primarily.
And longer term, are you planning to tie it more to FOB potentially?
I think that will happen over time. Just when we look at where we are in the market right now, I think we're at the low point and where the customer has quite a bit of leverage. So I think when you're looking at both the average pricing and the transportation, right now, we're kind of the, I would say, the tougher part of the market from our standpoint.
Yes, especially based over the life of the mine, 40, 50 years. We do think that things will change in the next part of the cycle.
And maybe one last question, if I may. Regarding the 45X, can you provide any preliminary estimate of how much it could affect you?
Yes. We're still looking at all the details of that Bill and to calculate a lot of us, our costs are variable. So it's going to depend on met coal pricing. So it could be somewhat of a larger range. It could be $30 million to $40 million per year. It could be a little higher than that, just depending on where met coal prices go and our transportation and royalty costs. So that's just a rough, rough estimate, but we'll be digging into the details and have a better idea as we get into '26.
I just want to touch on the updated cash cost guidance real quick, down to $110 to $120 per ton. Dale, I think you previously assumed $200 per metric ton average premium low-vol price for your prior guidance range. What's incorporated in that new range, please?
Yes. Nate, good follow-up question there because earlier, I didn't factor in. As I said, there might be some additional costs to come back later in the second half. But if prices do average a little bit higher in the second half, it's kind of factored into that range. So we're still at about $175 to $200 range price.
Our increased sales volume and production? Well, what's driving those numbers is, our mines are running very, very well. And for us, the best way to maintain a low-cost structure is to maintain a high-volume number. And Blue Creek has a lot of inventory, and we have high contracted volumes, and we're going to push. I think it's interesting that the area where we will be shipping is somewhat of a closed loop. The railroad can dedicate a certain number of sets that operate in a circular route with minimal interference between points. This arrangement is beneficial for both the rail provider and us, so I don’t expect significant impacts from that. Additionally, we have a new barge load-out that will soon be operational, and if we encounter any issues with rail performance, we can shift to rely on barge performance.
At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Scheller for any comments.
That concludes our call this afternoon. Thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Warrior.
Thank you. And that concludes today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.