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Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the ICL Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call International. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Peggy Riley-Tharp, Vice President of Global Investor Peggy, please go ahead.
Hello, everyone. I'm Peggy Riley-Tharp, Vice President of Global Investor Relations for ICL Group. I'd like to welcome you and thank you for joining us today for our earnings conference This event is being webcast live on our website at icl-group.com, and there will be a replay available a few hours after the live call, and a transcript will be available shortly thereafter earlier today we filed our reports on our presentations with the securities authorities and the stock exchanges in both israel and the united states those reports as well as the press release on our presentation are available on our website please be sure to review the disclaimer on slide two of the presentation our comments today will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995. these statements are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance The company undertakes no obligation to update any information discussed on this call at any time. With that, we will begin with the presentation by our CEO, Mr. Alad Aronson, followed by Mr. Asap Aparevich, our CFO. After the presentation, we will open the line for the Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call over to Alad.
Thank you, Peggy, and welcome everyone to a review of our second quarter 2026 earnings. We delivered another quarter of strong results with sales of $2.1 billion, which were up 17% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA of $448 million also showed meaningful improvement and increased 28% versus the prior year, as you can see on slide three. Before we go into greater detail about the quarter, I would like to take just a few minutes to review our new segments and to discuss how enterprise-wide cost savings and efficiency measures initiative elevate. First, I would like you to turn to slide five for a quick review of our three new strategic principles, which we first shared with you on our third quarter earnings call last November. The first is to drive profitable growth by targeting specialty crop nutrition and specialty food solutions. The second is to maximize and improve the businesses that we have identified as core to ICL, and this includes our phosphate, potash, and bromine resources. The third is dedicated to portfolio optimization and cost efficiency all three of these principles will benefit from our willingness to embrace new technologies like ai and our deep history of innovation to drive profitable growth we identified two distinct businesses which you can see on slide six we believe specialty crop nutrition and specialty food solutions have the potential to be significant growth engines for icl these are two areas where we already have deep experience and broad exposure and the future looks bright as you know icl's growing solution segment is already a global leader in specialty crop nutrition on slide 7 you can see that in 2020 our specialty crop nutrition sales were 1 billion dollar with ibida of approximately 60 million dollars. In 2025, we delivered specialty crop nutrition sales of two billion dollars and EBITDA increased in excess of three times to more than 200 million dollars. Our research indicates that there is still meaningful runway for growth in this business, which will allow us to further strengthen our leadership position in this market. Turning now to slide eight and our second growth engine specialty food solutions which is currently part of the phosphate solution segment we are already leading the 1.5 billion dollars phosphate food specialties market however this represents a small piece of the total food ingredients pie in order to accelerate our growth we are expanding our focus into functional food ingredients this sizable market provides exposure to approximately $35 billion in value with an expected average five-year growth rate of approximately 6%. We are strongly positioned in this market with a clear ambition to double our sales and reach $1.5 billion in revenues by 2029. As we have began executing our strategy, it has become increasingly clear that aligning our corporate structure with our end markets is the right approach for the future. As a result, and after a careful review, which is shown on slide nine, we have decided to embrace a new organizational structure. This new structure will include dedicated food segment and will consolidate all of our industrial activities into one segment. It will also bring our potash and phosphate fertilizers together. We believe this new market-oriented organizational structure will strengthen management focus on our key growth engines and align the business with our strategic priorities we expect this update to our reporting structure to provide investors with enhanced visibility into the performance growth drivers and value creation potential of our businesses on slide 10 you can see each of our four segments Nutrition solutions will bring together all of our food and beverage, health, nutrition, and wellness offerings into one place. This will include our existing food specialties business, along with the food and pharma solutions that previously resided in industrial products. Industrial products will be focused on performance and safety solutions for industrial markets, primarily electronics, energy, and construction, and will now include the industrial phosphate solutions that were formerly under phosphate business segment. This segment will lead our effort to unlock the full potential of high-growth markets, such as advanced electronics, semiconductors, AI infrastructure, data centers, and next-generation computing, positioning us as the forefront of some of the most dynamic and rapidly expanding industries worldwide. There will be no change to growing solutions which will remain focused on specialty plant nutrition for agriculture, turf, and ornamental markets. Essential minerals will include potash and phosphate fertilizers from our upstream mineral production sites, including our potash resources in the Dead Sea and in Spain, and our phosphate resources in the Negev and in China, and will continue to serve the global agriculture markets. This change will take effect in the first quarter of 2027, however, 2025 performance snapshot of each of the new segments is shown on slide 11. We believe this new structure will allow us to amplify our growth engines as we move ahead with our strategic priorities. If you will now turn to slide 12, I would like to take just a few moments to introduce you to Elevate, our new cost transformation program. We have initiated this effort in order to reduce our cost base, support our margin expansion, improve cash generation, and strengthen our earnings power. Elevate is a corporate-wide effort to increase efficiency and productivity by realigning our cost structure to build a lean and agile company poised on growth. In addition, we'll be leveraging AI to accelerate innovation, drive efficiency, and improve decision-making. Taking together, these initiatives are expected to deliver more than $150 million in annual EBITDA improvement by the end of 2027, growing to more than $350 million annually by the end of 2028. On slide 13, you can see our targeted savings. We expect approximately 50% to 60% of the projected EBITDA improvement to be driven by productivity gains and operational efficiencies. A reduction in external spend expected to deliver 30-40% of our goal, while SG&A optimization efforts are focused to contribute the remaining 10-20%. While this is an ambitious effort, I know everyone at ICL is committed to taking the necessary steps to make this cost transformation program a reality over the next two years. Now let's turn to slide 15 for a more detailed review of the second quarter. As discussed, we delivered sales of $2.1 billion, which were up 17% year-over-year. These results exceeded expectations, and each of our four businesses contributed to this solid sales performance, as higher prices for potash, bromine, and phosphates contributed to the year-over-year improvement. Adjusted EBITDA of $448 million increased 28% versus the prior year. This growth was achieved even as we observed $100 million of higher raw material costs and more than $40 million of exchange rate impact. We also reported a 35% improvement in adjusted net income of $149 million, which translates to adjusted earnings per share of $0.12, an increase of 33%. Operating cash flow of $290 million improved 8% on an annual basis. And free cash flow of $94 million was up 34% in second quarter. Despite continued volatility in global markets during the second quarter, we stayed focused on disciplined execution, managing the factors within our control, and responding decisively to changing market conditions. We also benefited from our distinctive global presence with regionally diversified operations and from higher prices across the fertilizers, food, and industrial markets we serve. Let's turn to our business segments and begin with industrial products. On slide 16, you can see second quarter sales of $414 million were up 30% year over year, while EBITDA of $130 million was up 88%. This was the segment's best quarterly performance since the end of 2022, and it was mainly driven by higher bromine prices and increased volumes. For flame retardants, overall sales increased. Bromine-based products benefited from higher prices and improved electronics end market demand. Sales of phosphorus-based flame retardants were stable despite muted demand in the construction end markets. For our clear brine fluids, which are used by the oil and gas industry during well completion, business remained solid. While sales decreased slightly due to timing shifts, demand in Europe and South America increased in the second quarter. Specialty minerals, which includes magnesia, calcium carbonate, and salt products, reported increased sales with strong magnesia demand across the wide array of end markets. Overall, year-over-year improvement was also driven by growth in food and farmer demand, and this trajectory is expected to continue throughout the reminder of 2026. Turning to our potash division on slide 17, for the second quarter, sales of $468 million were up 22% year-over-year. EBITDA of $154 million was up 34%. Our average potash price for the second quarter was $376 CIF per ton. This amount was up 13% year-over-year and 4% sequentially. Potash production volumes came in at 1,058,000 metric tons in the second quarter and were up 11%, or more than 100,000 metric tons versus the prior year. These gains were achieved as a strong focus on process optimization and cost reduction drove significant improvements in operational performance and resource efficiency. Once again, we continue to maximize our potash sales by prioritizing the best global markets, and we also benefited from higher potash prices in the quarter. Despite recent price increases, potash remains relatively affordable compared to nitrogen and phosphate fertilizers, supporting continued demand. Now turning to review the phosphate solutions division on slide 18. For the second quarter, sales increased 13% to $722 million. Higher prices for both commodity and specialty phosphates help drive sales growth. Second quarter EBITDA of $136 million increased slightly as price increases were able to partially offset the impact of higher raw material prices. For our specialty food phosphates, sales increased in the second quarter, and this reflects not only price increases, but also volume growth from existing and new customers. Growth was across a variety of use cases, including dairy, meat, and seafood, in expansion markets like China and India. Our specialty food solutions are targeting consumer trends such as low sodium, healthy for you, and clean label. We are also developing a high-protein beverage prototype as we look to expand our participation in the GLP-1 category. This brings us to our Growing Solutions Business Division on slide 19. Sales for the second quarter increased 12% to $605 million, with growth in most regions, while EBITDA of $50 million was down versus prior year. In order to partially offset the pressure from higher raw material costs, geopolitical tensions, and supply chain volatility, the Growing Solutions team focused on favorable price and mix, discipline as G&A management, and commercial actions targeting profitability. On a regional basis, soft market conditions remained an issue in Brazil as overall demand was weak. After a challenging April, performance improved progressively in May and June. For Europe, both sales and profitability improved in the second quarter as we maintained our focus on optimizing product mix. Execution of this strategy has proven successful with a sharp focus on core countries and products, driving growth and profitability. During the quarter, Growing Solutions did a remarkable job of managing the areas under their control, from optimizing its fixed cost base to reducing general and administrative expenses.
I would now like to turn the call over to Asaf for a review of quarterly financials and our outlook for the reminder of 2026. thank you a lot it is a pleasure to be here today i'm excited to join icl and to work with the entire global team as we execute a new strategic priorities over the coming months i look forward to meeting many of our investors and analysts in person and to spending time across the global operations deepening my understanding of the business and its opportunities let us get started on slide 21 with a quick look at quarterly changes in key market metrics on the positive side the grain price index in the U.S. improved on a quarterly basis with corn, rice, soybean, and wheat all trending up. However, farming affordability remains an issue on a global basis. In the U.S., farmer sentiment declined in the second quarter as high input costs remained a top concern. In addition, inflation-adjusted net farm income is forecasted to decline 2.6% in the U.S. in 2026. Turning to commodity prices, Spot bromine prices reached a peak in April, and these higher prices helped support the strong financial performance of our industrial product segment in the second quarter. While bromine prices moderated in May and June, they ticked back up in July as turbulence returned to the Middle East. In the second quarter, spot potash prices in the U.S. increased nearly 10% on a sequential basis, which supported the stronger potash division performance versus the prior year. Phosphate fertilizer prices were also higher in the second quarter, with key benchmark rates increasing an average of 22% on a sequential basis. However, production costs also escalated as geopolitical disruption drove higher costs for raw materials, particularly sulfur. As you know, sulfur is the key raw material for our phosphate products. In the second quarter, the spot price of so far increased 72% on a sequential basis and more than 210% on an annual basis, and this price increases impacted margin rates. In addition, other costs remained elevated, including ocean freight rates. Prices increased 45% on average in the second quarter due to disruptions in the Middle East and continue to increase in July. Finally, let's take a look at exchange rates. As you know, ICA is a dollar-denominated company. So, as the shekel strengthens versus the U.S. dollar, it makes it more costly for Operation Israel. However, there was a slight reversal of this trend in July. Going forward, we will continue to use hedge strategies to help mitigate currency risks and to monitor changes in the dollar-to-shekel exchange rate, along with other significant currency fluctuations. Now, if you will turn to slide 22 for a look at our second quarter sales bridges. On a year-over-year basis, sales were up $303 million, or approximately 17%, with all four segments demonstrating growth. Turning to the right side of the slide, you can see a $206 million benefit from higher prices this quarter, which was enhanced by higher volumes. Exchange rent also had a positive impact on sales in the second quarter. On slide 23, you can see our second quarter adjusted dividend, which improved approximately 28% versus the prior year, with industrial solutions, potash, and phosphate solutions all contributing. Higher volumes and prices contributed at the year-over-year improvement and were partly offset by the impact of exchange rate fluctuations and significantly higher raw material costs. While a growing solution segment also delivered higher sales and volumes supported by cost savings initiatives, these benefits were more than offset by significantly higher prices for nitrogen and sulfur. Turning to slide 24 and a few more second quarter financial highlights, our balance sheet remains strong with available cash resources of $2.2 billion. In the quarter, we delivered operating cash flow of $290 million, while free cash flow increased 34% versus prior year to $94 million. Our net debt to adjusted EBITDA rate remained at a stable 1.5 times, and we successfully completed our $800 million senior notes offering. Once again, we are distributing 50% of adjusted net income to our shareholders. This translates to a total dividend of $75 million in the second quarter and results in a training 12-month dividend yield of 4.1%. Before turning the call over to the operator, I would like to highlight that it is an exciting time to join ICL. I'm looking forward to working on an enterprise-wide cost-saving and efficiency measures initiative, as we strive to reduce our cost basis while supporting margin expansion, improving cash generation, and strengthening our earning power. In addition, I believe a new organizational structure will strengthen management focus on key growth engines and align the business with our strategic priorities. We expect this update to our reporting structure to provide investors with advanced visibility into the performance, growth drivers, and value creation potential of our businesses. The new organization structure will be implemented beginning in the first quarter of 2027 and will be reflected in both our internal and external financial reporting. In the interim, the team and I are available to assist you with any modeling questions in order to help make this transition seamless. Now, turning to slide 25 and the review of our guidance for 2026. We are reiterating our guidance and continue to expect consolidated EBITDA to be between $1.5-1.7 billion. dollars this reflects the expected impact of higher material costs and currency headwinds in the second quarter we were successful in offsetting some of these higher costs through certain mitigation action and as we consumed lower cost sulfur inventory however if sulfur prices remain at these currently elevated levels we will see margin pressure in our phosphate products as we consume higher priced inventory while we expect continued challenges in the second half of the year we remain focused on execution and are confident we have the right people solutions and capabilities in place to help ease but not completely eliminate the impact of external forces for potash sales volumes we continue to expect this amount to be between 4.5 and 4.7 million metric tons due to operational improvements made in 2025. Finally, we expect our annual adjusted tax rate to be approximately 30%, and with that, I would like to turn the call to the operator for the Q&A session.
We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. we ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality if you are muted locally please remember to unmute your device please stand by while we compile the q a roster your first question comes from the line of ben teurer with barclays your line is open please go ahead uh hello uh a lot uh so first of all uh congrats on a very strong uh second quarter Thank you, Manu.
My first question is, I would say, results-related, and the follow-up is on the new strategy. So first of all, looking at the results, there was clearly an impressive outcome in industrial products with almost doubling on EBITDA on very strong sales. So I just wanted to understand if you could kind of like help us bridge maybe how much really was driven by price versus what was then ultimately demand and the strength in it and how we should think about the top line and the profit for IP as we move into the second half, just given that it was such an outstanding quarter in this segment. Thank you.
Thank you for your question, Ben. So indeed, with the IP and bromine segment, we've seen strong performance both in sales and EBITDA. As you noted, the bromine, and as you are well aware, the bromine prices reached a peak in April, above $6,000 roughly, per ton. In May and June, they slightly moderated, moderated, and currently they are pretty much at $4,500, so going back to higher level. In terms of certain product line, we've seen flame Retard is doing solid with very strong performance so overall certainly we enjoyed the high prices in Q2 and we were able to lock in strong prices and transaction towards Q2 and now again we are at 4500 level so certainly a pretty attractive prices as well and did I ask your question any follow-up so yeah The second one's really about elevate and just looking into the – call it maybe stretching the downside risk and the upside potential here.
Clearly, a lot of it comes down to operational efficiencies and productivity with roughly half of the savings. So I just want to understand like what you have identified and how comfortable you are with reaching first the 150 million in first place and then actually being able to more than add more than double than that in the year after. So I just wanted to understand, what is it that gives you confidence to be able to achieve the roughly 350 million target within the two-year timeframe with a focus on the productivity, please?
So, Ben, it's a great question. And you know us by now, and you know that we are, I'll say gently, we are a bit conservative. So probably you understand that if we say that we are going to hit the 350, so our internal target is even higher than that. That's just to be honest. And the reason for that is that the ICL expended in the last few years, and we have more than 40 production sites and a very complicated and widespread logistic supply chain. So with that, I think we have a lot of potential to be more efficient, to allocate those savings. I think for the last few years, we didn't put a lot of efforts or a focused effort on this part of the company. it's about time and I'm quite confident that we'll be able to bring those numbers hopefully a bit more than that.
Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.
Thank you Ben. Your next question comes from the line of Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi, I have a few questions. I'm gonna ask them one by one.
I appreciate the color you gave a few seconds a few minutes ago um you know i know that prices are still good for bromine in q3 but i mean should we see earnings levels drop in q3 q4 somewhere between q1 and q2 levels again in the current level of 4500 of the bromine prices i think prices are higher than what we've seen in q1 uh they are lower than what we've seen in april but uh we have the capabilities and agility, actually, to lock in transactions. So I think Q2 does represent a pretty high level, but as it relates for Q3 and beyond, we'll just have to wait and see, please.
And then my second of three questions would be, we all are quite aware of day-to-day trials and crises in sulfur.
You gave a bit of commentary about speccing lower phosphate margins the second half of the year, if I hear it correctly, but can you give a sense of how you're handling sulfur you know we're starting to I mean the market's got no sulfur supply but a lot of lower sulfur demand how are you handling this what should we expect in the second half so yeah sulfur is is probably one of the main issues for the reminder of the year not only for us you hear it from from our colleagues as well and basically there are two challenges one is the availability just to get sulfur. And the other one, of course, is the price. Prices moved up along Q2. And now the spot prices in CFR terms are around 1,200, a bit more than that, per metric. By now, we managed to secure the quantities for Q3 and the beginning of Q4, but it's still a challenge. So for now, We have no intention to reduce the production rate, both in Rotem and YPH in China. Having said that, the cost of sulfur, the consumption cost, is going to be higher than what we saw in Q1 and also in Q2. So, yes, sulfur is an issue.
The bottom line, we continue to produce right now. we have the demand and the demand for the phosphate products and we have enough sulfur at least for q3 i believe we'll solve it also for q4 but cost will will continue to increase consumption cost maybe just to add on that i think that one of our key strengths and we're quite unique in the industry is our breadth and diversity of our product portfolio geographies and the markets and the customers we serve uh this diversification really provides accessibility uh where we can optimize the software allocation across different customers and end markets and so forth so through a detailed snop process we can really optimize that i think that's something that we will certainly continue to do as we move forward in the second half of year.
And then my last question is a bit more longer term thinking, which is obviously you're quite exposed to LFP cathodes with your business and high purity phosphoric acid. And there's a lot of opportunity there. We've seen strong growth rates in LFP, energy storage, big deal now in batteries. We are really seeing sodium ion as the conversation for energy storage. And there's a lot of questions now if sodium iron over the next bunch of years will take share from LFP in ESS. Can you share your latest views on that?
Yeah, so we are enjoying the LFP trend by supplying acid and MAP mainly to producers in China. It's not a huge part of our phosphate business to be honest. And also, and again, I'm not a technical expert, but I think it's going to take time until the LFP will be down. Right now, we see the opposite. We see an increasing trend with the LFP demand. So, I think for the next five years, we have nothing to be concerned of in that respect. Maybe in 10 years' time, there will be a different arena.
But in any case, again lfp uh for now it's not a big part of what we are doing on the phosphate segment thank you thank you joel as a reminder if you would like to ask a question please press star one to raise your hand we will pause for a moment to allow for any additional questions your next question comes from the line of joel jackson with bmo capital markets your line is open please go ahead okay i'll come back for some more um sorry um so on potash can you talk about
the market like it seems like it's stabilized around 400 a ton we've seen some announcements from some of your eastern european competitors about maintenance in q3 you know we'll have to see how much we believe if those numbers are true but you know what are you seeing in the granular low versus standard market for potash? Is it a stable market things?
So the way we see the potash market right now, it's I think the word the stable market, it's that's the right term. And demand is demand is there. It's very very from from the different geographies. But right now we have demand both for granola between Brazil, U.S. and Europe, and of course the standard mainly for us, India and China. As for the price level, so China and India, it's a fixed price, right, annual contract. And as for the spot market, yes, around 400, it depends. U.S. a bit less, Europe a bit more, but all in all, that's the zip code. I don't see a lot of volatility in the potash market in the last few months, and I also I don't anticipate any volatility in the coming few months.
And just maybe you can get some commentary on Brazil in general for your different businesses, including growing solutions. I mean, across the crop input landscape, the ag equipment landscape, all we hear about is how challenged Brazil has been from a credit perspective, concerns about interest rates.
Now, does that mean like your growing solutions business should we see pretty flat earnings in the second half of the year or is there opportunity for some growth in the so in that so it's a great yeah it's it's a great question for growing solutions business Brazil represent one-third of the business and it's not a secret that the Brazilian market is weak and also just to remind everyone that usually the hot season or the the high season in Brazil is Q3 and the beginning of Q4 so in that respect I think this year in Brazil will be will be weaker than what we saw in the past, because of the reasons that you mentioned. By the way, we don't see less of consumption on the commodity fertilizer, so potash and the fertilizer, we don't see the real gap, but on specialty fertilizers, it's a bit tougher. And so I think in Brazil, in growing solutions, Q3 will not be as strong as it should be. When we see the change, I don't know, there are elections in October, I think, and maybe they will change some external factors. But for this season, unfortunately, I think Brazil will remain soft.
Maybe just to add to that, despite the fact that we've seen key grains of prices going up since the beginning of the year, even more so in July, due to the macro reason that you just mentioned, we see affordability is still a major issue in Brazil. Also financing to plan financing is challenging. You're aware of the macro conditions with real interest rate about above 9%. So overall, despite the high grain prices, the input costs are very high, and we do expect that, as Elad mentioned, to continue into the second half of the year.
Thank you for the second time. Your next question comes from the line of Ben Teurer with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Why not? We'll give it another one as well. Thanks for taking us back here. So Joel and I, we're running the show here. So one question I had to follow up is, if I look at your guidance currently, and we just take a look at EBITDA on an LTM basis, you're at about $1.65 billion, so closer to the higher end of it. So with obviously better pricing on potash still coming in a little bit on a year-to-year basis, that momentum and IP may be a little bit tougher on the phosphate side. But putting this all together, it feels like we can comfortably think about the higher end. So I wanted to understand a little bit the risks that you're seeing from maintaining somewhat of a still relatively wide range of outcomes with that two and a million spread on your EBITDA guidance. What are the risks that you're seeing for the second half and what could take you to the lower end versus where we're trending at, which would be higher end as of now?
So, I think you're a bit underestimating the sulfur issue, as we don't see, I mean, in the Q2 results for us, and I guess for the peers as well, we don't see the full extent of the implication of the very high sulfur prices. So that's a real headwind, together with the FX, the exchange rate between shekel and dollar, We are exposed to the shekel in more than $1 billion equivalent. So those are the main headwinds. The third one, as we just discussed, answering Joel's question, is Brazil. Brazil, usually, it's a big contribution for Q3, and it's now a bit soft. So those are the headwinds. There are also tailwinds, as you mentioned. As for the roaming prices, right now it's better than expected. But again, it's very much just to do with the geopolitical situation here in West Asia. So I don't know what will happen next in that respect. Potash remains stabilized as we discussed. So all in all, I think the second semester will be good, but most probably will be a bit lower than the first half.
Okay, perfect. Thank you very much. Very clear.
This concludes the question and answer session. I will now turn the calls back to Elad Aronson for closing remarks.
Okay, so bottom line, a very strong Q2. As we discussed, we discussed also the headwinds for the rest of the year, but also the tailwinds. I don't want to repeat this one. And it was very important for me to share with you are we making progress on our strategic implementation or execution and the organizational structure adjustment will be implemented early next next year and I think it's very it will give us an opportunity and and very a nice potential in those end markets and also the elevate again we are very focused on debt and the entire company all the employees are very much committed to that so i have no doubt that we are going to win this 350 350 million dollar until the end of 2028 with that i'll conclude here thank you very much for participating today and see you all in in the next quarter thank you this concludes today's call thank you for attending you may now disconnect