Skip to main content

Korn Ferry Q1 FY2026 Earnings Call

Korn Ferry (KFY)

Earnings Call FY2026 Q1 Call date: 2025-09-09 Concluded

Call artefacts

Transcript

Speaker-labelled transcript of the call.

Read transcript
8-K earnings release

Item 2.02 release filed around the call (2025-09-09).

View 8-K filing
10-Q filing

The quarterly report covering this quarter (filed 2025-09-09).

View 10-Q filing
Audio

Call audio is not captured yet.

Slides

A slide deck is not captured yet.

Transcript

Auto-generated speakers
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Korn Ferry First Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. We have also made available in the Investor Relations section of our website at kornferry.com a copy of the financial presentation that we will be reviewing with you today. Before I turn the call over to your host, Mr. Gary Burnison, let me first read a cautionary statement to investors. Certain statements made in the call today, such as those relating to future performance, plans and goals constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such statements. Actual results in future periods may differ materially from those currently expected or desired because of a number of risks and uncertainties, which are beyond the company's control. Additional information concerning such risks and uncertainties can be found in the release relating to this presentation and in the periodic and other reports filed by the company with the SEC, including the company's annual report for fiscal year 2025 and in the company's soon to be filed quarterly report for the quarter ended July 31, 2025. Also, some of the comments today may reference non-GAAP financial measures such as constant currency amounts, EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is contained in the financial presentation and earnings release relating to this call, both of which are posted in the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.kornferry.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Burnison. Please go ahead, Mr. Burnison.

Okay. Thank you, Regina, and thanks to everybody for joining us. I'm really pleased with our performance in the quarter. The team is going to get into the results in a little bit. But when I look at the results, even over the past few quarters, with all the choppiness and uncertainty around tariffs, the labor and economic environment, it's clear that our strategy is working. In fact, when you consider our diversification strategy and the current and future demographic trends alone, the opportunity is immense. And I think that's evidenced this quarter by the growth in all of our solutions. And today, we're driving performance with a far more sophisticated, holistic approach that delivers our expertise and robust IP through integrated solutions in every region of the world. In the quarter, we won a number of notable engagements. I'll highlight a couple: a top pharma company with over 20,000 employees where we're building a globally aligned leadership team, helping them foster a culture of innovation and streamline talent development across the regions. It's part of a multiyear engagement; or a FTSE 100 retailer, we're now the exclusive assessment provider across all levels of the organization using our consulting-led assessments and our digital at-scale solutions with the ambition to deliver our capabilities from the shop floor to the boardroom. And finally, a top provider of HR management software, where we're going to deliver a subscription-based digital solution, a global leadership offering that includes content, instructor-led materials, micro learning, and more that complements the consulting engagement that includes leadership assessments and coaching. And these are just three examples of how we're integrating multiple solutions to create enduring client partnerships. We also continue to make measured capital investments that extend our offerings and solutions and expand our impact with clients. A case in point is Talent Suite, which offers seamless integration of proprietary IP and data and talent applications into one digital SaaS platform, which enables our clients to make better hiring decisions, structure their organizations, assess, develop, and reward their talent. In other words, Talent Suite enables clients to unlock human and organizational potential at scale. Our evolution towards large-scale, multi-solution client engagements is real. As we change the fundamental composition and scale of our business, when I just look at the tail of the tape, today, we have loyal, repeatable clients of scale. Marquee & Diamond accounts generating almost 40% of our revenue, a 10-year revenue CAGR of 10%, driven by an expanding set of diversified solutions. We have strong top-line synergies with 25% of revenue generated from cross-solution referrals. Clearly, this diversification is driving resilience and durability in our business and contributing to sustained shareholder value, and that's evidenced through our balanced capital allocation strategy, which includes six dividend increases in the last five years and a demonstrated track record of M&A and share repurchases. I'm optimistic, truly optimistic about the trajectory of this firm and, more importantly, the impact we're making. We have a strong foundation with incredible brand permission that is fostering deep client relationships. We have relevant, diverse scale and increasingly more integrated solutions that are even more closely aligned with the talent needs of our clients. Through our disciplined approach, I'm confident we are poised and well positioned for the future. With that, Regina, I'll now turn it over to Bob. Bob, it's all yours.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks, Gary, and good morning, good afternoon, depending on where you're at. The global business environment over the last quarter remained extremely uncertain with many lingering economic challenges, keeping investment spending cautious. Unresolved tariff issues added to ongoing geopolitical tensions, readings on inflation cause uncertainties as to whether interest rates would remain higher for longer. Despite the impact of these uncertainties on business sentiment, our clients continue to see the impact and value of our services and solutions. Our financial results for the first quarter of fiscal '26 remained strong providing further proof that our integrated business strategy, which is really diversified across industries, geographies, and solutions is working. In fact, the current economic environment has created an opportunity for Korn Ferry to really strengthen our client relationships and continue becoming a trusted global partner of choice, helping our clients solve complex talent and organizational performance challenges. Today, we're helping our clients resolve these challenges with both our skilled workforce and our proprietary data and IP, which is really a product of decades of behavioral science research. Additionally, we focus our efforts to sell larger, more integrated solutions via our Korn Ferry go-to-market strategy. We're paving the way for stronger, more durable long-term growth. I'm also pleased to share that we remain on track for the market launch of our new Talent Suite platform that Gary referenced this November. Talent Suite will enable our consultants and clients to more easily derive and prioritize insights across our multiple Talent products using client data, our own proprietary data, and select third-party data to help them make better and more insightful talent decisions. Now in addition to the detailed results found in our posted earnings presentation, I just want to go over a couple of company-wide solution-specific highlights for the first quarter. As Gary mentioned, the Marquee & Diamond accounts remained strong at almost 40% of our consolidated fee revenue. That program delivered a little better than 7% fee revenue growth when you look at it year-over-year. Our cross-solution referrals also remained strong at 25% of our consolidated fee revenue. Executive Search fee revenue also remained strong, growing 8% in the quarter, and that's our fifth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth in that solution area. Professional search and interim fee revenue was up 10% year-over-year with growth in both professional services perm placement, plus 5%, and interim was up 14%. Our digital subscription and licensed new business grew 10% year-over-year in the first quarter, with 39% of total digital new business, and that's going to continue to add stability and predictability to our overall revenue base. Last, our average bill rates in Consulting and Interim both grew year-over-year, Consulting by 9% and Interim by 4%. Now turning to company overall results, our consolidated fee revenue grew 5% year-over-year to $709 million, which is a second consecutive quarter of positive growth. Earnings and profitability also continued to grow. Adjusted EBITDA grew $9 million or 8% year-over-year to $120 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin grew 50 basis points year-over-year to 17% and our adjusted diluted earnings per share grew $0.13 or 11% year-over-year to $1.31. Total company new business, excluding RPO, grew 5% year-over-year led by strength in EMEA and APAC. Our RPO delivered $99 million of new business in the quarter, with 46% of that coming from new logos and 54% from renewals. The renewals included one large financial institution at $32 million. Estimated remaining fees under existing contracts also remained strong in the first quarter. As a reminder, this operating metric that we introduced last quarter is the quarter-ending estimated fees under existing contracts to be recognized in future periods. At the end of the first quarter, this amounted to $1.67 billion, which was up 9% year-over-year. Of this amount, we expect approximately 58% or $972 million will be recognized as fees within the next year and 42% or $702 million to be recognized thereafter. Now turning to our regional results, fee revenue in the Americas was down 2% year-over-year, with growth in Executive Search and RPO being offset by slightly lower demand in consulting, digital, and professional search and interim. EMEA fee revenue was strong, growing 19% year-over-year, and we saw growth in all solutions. APAC fee revenue was also strong, growing 12% year-over-year, also with growth in all solutions. Finally, our capital allocation in the first quarter remained balanced as we returned $36 million to shareholders through combined share repurchases and dividends, and we invested $22 million in capital expenditures focused on Talent Suite, our new technology platform, as well as productivity tools and other product enhancements. Now turning to our outlook for the second quarter of fiscal '26, assuming no further changes in worldwide geopolitical conditions, economic conditions, financial markets, and foreign exchange rates, we expect fee revenue in the second quarter of fiscal '26 to range from $690 million to $710 million. Our adjusted EBITDA margin to range from approximately 17% to 17.5%, and our consolidated adjusted diluted earnings per share to range from $1.23 to $1.33. Finally, we expect our GAAP diluted earnings per share in the second quarter to range from $1.10 to $1.16. I would like to note that our GAAP diluted earnings per share includes approximately $10 million or $0.14 per share of accelerated depreciation, which is related to our current product technology platform, which will be sunsetted as the Talent Suite is commercially launched at the beginning of the third quarter in November. We remain committed to controlling what we can control, leaning into identified growth opportunities, and driving operational excellence. We will continue to promote a culture of innovation and remain focused on delivering outstanding client service. Korn Ferry is a global consulting firm that powers client performance. We're focused on improving our go-to-market efforts, engaging with our clients as one firm; we are Korn Ferry. We are well positioned for the next step in our growth, and I'm more confident and excited than I've ever been about what this company can become. With that, we would be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Operator

Our first question will come from Trevor Romeo with William Blair.

Speaker 3

Just maybe I had a couple on your digital business to start, the Talent Suite rollout coming up in November. As you're getting ready for that commercial launch, I guess, what are some of the key milestones you'll be tracking there? And how should we be thinking about maybe the timeline for the benefits there to start flowing through the financials?

Well, I think the benefits will take some time. I think it will be towards the end of calendar '26 realistically when we start to see the true benefits of it. Some of the milestones that we are working on include the partnerships that we have and further accelerating the go-to-market strategy around those partnerships. That's very important, particularly with the three or four large HCM players, that's certainly one thing we're working on. The second is enabling our colleagues and training our colleagues. We have a robust schedule in front of us to train all of our 1,800 frontline consultants on awareness and provocation, and selling of the Talent Suite. That's going to be happening over the next six months starting in October. And we also have a targeted strategy with milestones there around our Marquee and Diamond accounts. So it's really kind of a balanced approach here, a multipronged approach. Outside with partners, with our Marquee & Diamond accounts top-down, bottom-up with many of our clients, then there's an internal mobility strategy as well.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Gary. Maybe just one quick follow-up on digital. The subscription and license piece of the segment going above, I think, 40% of segment revenue now. Could you maybe just remind us what is your kind of long-term aspirational target for how big those subscriptions could grow as a percentage of that segment?

Well, we'd like to see it be north of, say, 60%, but that's certainly not in the next several months. But I just think there's this opportunity to impact a lot of people's lives and the destination of organizations through our IP, and we just have to figure out the best way to drive scale. I think the best way to drive scale in that business is through our partnerships that we have, and that's something that we're going to pursue very aggressively.

Speaker 2

Trevor, this is Bob. One thing I would add to that, as you think about Talent Suite, obviously, selling subscriptions and licenses is important for us. But it's also about thinking about it as an enabler of the delivery of our other services and solutions. So whether it's Talent acquisition, it's consulting; other areas in the organization are going to really benefit from having all of the assets, IP, data, and content, what we call foundational assets, at the center of the organization, right? And they're going to be able to gain much easier access and utilization of those. And then we have a reporting and analytics layer. When you layer on AI and Gen AI in terms of being able to access, slice, and dice data much faster and easier, you have to think about it more broadly than just selling subscriptions and licenses.

Speaker 3

Great. And then maybe one more, if you don't mind. Maybe for you, Bob. Just on the guidance, I think typically, Q2 is a little bit of a stronger seasonal revenue quarter for you. So I guess the guidance may be a slight dip at the midpoint sequentially for revenue. Can we just maybe reconcile that? Should we read that as a little bit of conservatism or any reasons across the businesses that would make you think you wouldn't see a little bit of an uptick?

Speaker 2

I would say, Trevor, just given the uncertainties in the backdrop out there, we're probably on a little bit of the conservative side.

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Tobey Sommer with Truist.

Speaker 4

I wanted to ask what you're hearing from clients. You mentioned that uncertainty in the economy has led to some conservatism in guidance. We see the BLS revision lower this morning for job creation over the last year, and maybe rates are starting to come down at the Fed soon. What are customers telling you?

Well, it depends where you are in the world. Look, everybody has got to play on the pitch. Everybody is dealing with the same economic and labor environment. I've spent the last several months with clients and colleagues in Europe in many different countries. Broadly speaking, there's a great deal of optimism. In the Americas, I think people are dealing with the lack of pricing power and the fact that costs have escalated 50% over the last 5.5 to 6 years. Look, I'm not surprised at all by the downward revision in those BLS numbers. I mean that's not shocking. There's been a labor recession for two years. Companies are not doing massive downsizing, but they're letting natural attrition take its course, and they're not replacing those hires. The other big thing, not only in Europe, but in America and Asia, is what does AI do long-term in terms of how does an organization get work done and with how many people. We've seen a really good rebound in Asia, and we've seen it in the numbers; both Europe and Asia really performed well. That was fairly broad-based in both regions. Life Sciences clients are a tougher deal, as well as healthcare. We've seen a lot of great activity in industrial, which is 30% of the company. Private equity has been a source of significant strength because they have thousands of companies that are past their sell-by date, and because of that, they're actually having to go in and think about how you really operate the company beyond just cutting costs and increasing EBITDA. These would be the major themes that I've heard from clients directly.

Speaker 4

Just sort of a specific question on consulting, if I could. With respect to your merger and divestiture kind of services in playbook. What are you seeing there? Because we've seen sort of an uptick in at least announced deals. Many of them seem to be sort of corporate breakups. I'm wondering if you're participating in that from a consulting perspective?

There are actually a couple that we are participating in. I can't talk about it, but I think the bigger activity has actually been on the private equity side. That's a direct result of firms hanging on to portfolio companies longer and the work that has to be done beyond three, four, five years.

Speaker 4

Appreciate that. Last question for me is if we do see an appreciable uptick in demand across the businesses and get a little bit faster revenue growth for the firm. Do you have some excess capacity now sort of in the businesses to be able to meet that? Or might you need to step on the gas with hiring and have sort of flat to down-ish margins for a quarter or two while you ramp things up?

No. We're continually managing that talent. And I do think that there is capacity. The big question is what do you have to believe for this economic environment that we've seen now for a couple of years to actually turn. There has to be some significant rate cuts. The Fed has been slow. It was never transitory several years ago; anybody with any common sense could have said that. That's what you have to see to get this thing going.

Speaker 2

Tobey, it's Bob. The other thing I would add to that, too, is we've set ourselves formally organized around AI and Gen AI, and we're driving that into the organization. From a capacity perspective, I would expect that to help us get through any groundswell that comes out of a more rapid rebound.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 5

This is Sami on for George. Could you discuss the performance of new business in consulting during the quarter? What is your outlook for consulting for the rest of the year and what are the key factors influencing your expectations?

I believe the situation will vary by region. I don't anticipate a significant change in the economic environment unless the Federal Reserve takes action. The consulting market has faced considerable challenges for the past eight quarters. However, looking at the overall firm results quarter-on-quarter and considering what I term a labor recession, the performance is remarkably strong. In Europe and Asia, I expect to see ongoing momentum with our consulting solutions. In the Americas, however, the circumstances may be more difficult due to the current situation. We've previously stated our commitment to expanding into larger-scale, more integrated solutions that deliver real impact to our clients. We've made movements towards larger, transformational projects, and this is evident in our results. This isn't just talk; the average hourly rate has risen by 50%, increasing from $300 a few years ago to nearly $500, specifically $470 an hour now. Additionally, our consulting backlog is increasing, with 42% of it consisting of engagements exceeding $1 million. While not the majority, a significant portion of our new business wins are also valued over $1 million. We're shifting the entire organization towards more integrated solutions, and this is reflected in the numbers. Consequently, client consumption of our backlog has slowed. In terms of new business, the performance was solid and definitely positive. I tend to assess the firm as a whole, and in this challenging environment, the company's profitability is quite impressive.

Speaker 5

Got it. And on digital, the number of consultants was down significantly this quarter. Could you talk about what drove the decision to reduce digital headcount, especially given you have the launch of Talent Suite coming up? And is the headcount now fully aligned with the current demand, or could we see further rightsizing?

We are always managing the workforce, and we've done it over the last two to three years. If you look at professional search and interim, for example, you'll find that we've made significant changes in that workforce and repositioned that workforce, and we've done the same thing in digital. It's around enabling the entire firm to deliver the platform that is at its very foundation, how do you unlock human and organizational performance? How do you design an organization? How do you assess what type of leaders you need? How do you develop and how do you pay them? That's what it's about. So it's not strictly around the digital sellers that we have. It's around the entire firm and the 1,800 frontline consultants that we have and their ability to deliver the entire firm.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Josh Chan with UBS.

Speaker 6

If I look at the geography, the North American part of the business, most parts of the business is down somewhat, which jives with the macro, but Exec Search is still up in North America. So what's going on in Exec Search that's allowing that part of your business to really seemingly outperform the environment?

Yes. It's a combination of factors. It's the phenomenon where I've talked about this for a good six quarters, seven quarters, it's peak 65, so there's the demographic shifts and trends that I referred to in my opening comment. Many of the executives in the C-suite were probably in the C-suite during COVID. You had a period of going from light to darkness to light and all the things in between around that time and the subsequent pent-up demand and great resignation. Boards are looking at the C-suite and saying, is the leadership team that I need over the next five years what are their skills that will be needed versus the past five years? It's really those combination of factors that I believe are driving the Executive Search business.

Speaker 6

Great, Gary. You guys also mentioned that in a choppy environment that could provide some opportunity for you to strengthen your position. I'm sure you'd love a stronger environment, but curious how you can still win business in a weaker environment and what kind of opportunities those might be?

Yes. This is the best environment. I mean, we are most motivated. This is where good companies become great companies. It is only in these types of environments because people don't change unless there's a reason to change. The environment gives us that reason. I look at it, it's not just dealing with ambiguity, but embracing the ambiguity. I love the environment and it does present opportunities for us, internally around how we think about ourselves. Do we think about ourselves as business segments or do we think about ourselves as Korn Ferry? The truth is we don't have five businesses. We have one business, which is Korn Ferry. We have five solutions, but we have one business. The ability to change mindset in an environment like this, you have to take advantage of it. That's what we're doing, and that's what we plan to do over the next several months.

Speaker 2

One of the things that I've talked about quite a bit with investors is when the world is somewhat chaotic, as Gary mentioned, it's actually a good thing for us. Think about COVID hit; everybody went home. Work got done differently, different work had to be done, and organizations turn to us to help figure that out. Right now, there's a lot of uncertainty out there; AI, Gen AI is out there. Organizations are trying to figure out how does this change my workforce? Does it change my job profiles? Do people have the right skills? So when there's chaos in the world, and organizations are trying to figure their way through it, they turn to us to help them do that. As Gary indicated, it's actually a good thing for us.

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Mark Marcon with Baird.

Speaker 7

Gary, in your discussion, you talked a lot about some of the bigger deals that you've been signing, and you specifically noted one with a big HCM company. I'm wondering if you can elaborate in terms of what you're going to do for them?

I'm not going to get into specifics, but it's really a transformational program focused on leadership development. It's a significant learning engagement where that specific client is not only licensing our intellectual property for developing and transforming a workforce, but it also involves consulting with assessments and coaching. The aim is to transform a workforce, changing not just skill sets but also mindsets, using both our intellectual property and consulting services.

Speaker 7

That's really interesting. How big of a program could something like that be?

These are typically multiyear and several million dollars. I'm not saying that this particular one is that, but that's generally what these look like. Part of it then is it gets consumed by the clients, not the digital piece, but the consulting wraparound on these leadership development programs; they have to consume it. They have to pull it down on the shelf. That's one reason why you see the backlog, for example, in consulting increasing; it's because of that phenomenon moving to multiyear, multimillion-dollar engagements.

Speaker 7

That's great. Gary, we have been in a labor recession. You guys have held up the best of arguably any of the major players that most investors look at. You've been getting more and more into professional search and interim. You've made a number of acquisitions there. I'm wondering, as the environment remains relatively uncertain, what's your posture there? What have you learned from the acquisitions that you've made in terms of what are the types of acquisitions, the best spaces where you guys actually fit? And how many more opportunities are there in terms of bolstering the areas where you really do fit?

I think the pro search, let me bifurcate that. The pro search market is enormous. Most of that business that we have, most of that solution is in the U.S. What we've learned is the contingent part of that market opportunity doesn't work for us for the most part. We love the market; we want to go into it, but we also want to be eyes wide open. We don't want to be in contingent recruiting. It doesn't fit well with the brand and the Marquee and Diamond account strategy. There is still a big opportunity outside the U.S. We're underpenetrated there. We must be very cognizant, both in pro search and interim, as to what technology is going to do to a company's labor force over the next five or ten years, so we have to be very, very targeted there and smart. On the interim side, what we've learned is why did we get into it? We got into it because we see a mega trend that we think is going to play out even with AI with fractional workers. We think that megatrend is something that we should invest into. What we've learned there is that it is very synergistic with our brand. Similar to Pro Search, the opportunity is significant outside of the United States. When you look at both pro search and interim, you would find that 70% of our solution today is in the United States, and there's an enormous market opportunity. You would see us on the acquisition side, more oriented towards interim than pro search because on the pro search side, there are a number of transactions we could do today. Will those transactions come with a large pro search contingent piece, which we don't think is commensurate with our brand?

Speaker 2

Mark, just maybe a little bit more color. A couple of things for me that have been learning, Gary mentioned. Since we started down that path, we've created over 1,200 incremental opportunities by referring work across the system that never would have existed in those organizations had they stayed independent. Many of our clients are asking us, you do my firm hiring now, why wouldn't you help us with the interim or temporary labor force as well? The market is used as Gary indicated, and there's great demand within our client base.

Speaker 7

That's terrific. And then can I just ask about AI? Two-fold question. One is, clearly, there's been a labor recession for anybody who's been following the labor market for some time. The question revolves around, even if we do see some uptick in demand, what do you think about the chance of uncertainty around AI kind of freezing certain employers? In some cases, we are seeing some sections where labor demand is being reduced by AI. I'm just wondering what you're seeing on the client front.

I'll let Bob address the second part. None of us have a crystal ball. When you consider America, it's clear that the decline in birth rates over the last 30 years will lead to significantly fewer people entering the labor force in the coming years. If a country wants to maintain productivity growth like America has at 2% per year, how will the supply and demand imbalance be resolved? It will be addressed through technology. Whatever form it takes, including advanced AI, there will be a strong demand for technological solutions to bridge the gap created by fewer people in the American workforce. This is a matter of mathematics and data. Companies must find ways to deliver value to their customers more efficiently. Over the past eight quarters, this has generally meant allowing attrition to take its course without rigorously replacing those who leave. Clearly, when CEOs assess what can be accomplished today with AI, they will reconsider their workforce strategies, which likely means they will have fewer employees. It's hard to reach any other conclusion. Broadly, we are taking the expected steps regarding our workforce and how we integrate AI into our operations. We are conducting assessments for AI readiness in our consulting work and leveraging our intellectual property to evaluate and benchmark a company's AI capabilities.

Speaker 2

Sure. We are making significant investments in this area. Instead of hiring a lot of new people, we've assembled a group of around 40 individuals from different solution areas who have experience with AI and Gen AI, and they are now organized under Brian Akerman, our central leader for AI initiatives. Brian is leading the usage of AI and Gen AI within the company. We have introduced licenses that vary by skill level and job role, with some being more effective than others. We’re assessing the impact AI will have on our work. I believe in the mantra of human plus AI, using these technologies as efficiency tools. The integration of agents into workflows could become even more interesting, and while we will determine the effects of this in the future, it is something to consider. Regarding our workforce, as Gary mentioned, it’s not just about AI and Gen AI as a means to reduce headcount; it’s also about eliminating mundane tasks, allowing us to use that freed-up capacity to address our backlog. Yes, it will impact our overall headcount, but it will also enable us to deliver services to our clients more quickly.

Operator

And it appears that there are no further questions, Mr. Burnison.

Okay. Regina, thank you for hosting us, and we certainly appreciate you listening to our story. We look forward to talking to you here over the next few days and over the next quarter. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this conference call will be available for replay for one week starting running through the day September 16, 2025; and at midnight. You may access the Echo replay service by dialing (800) 770-2030 and entering the access code 5927-661 followed by the pound key. Additionally, the replay will be available for playback at the company's website, www.kornferry.com in the Investor Relations section. This concludes our call today. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.