Lisata Therapeutics, Inc. Q4 FY2022 Earnings Call
Lisata Therapeutics, Inc. (LSTA)
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Auto-generated speakersWelcome to the Lisata Therapeutics Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Financial Results and Business Update Conference Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded today, Thursday, March 30, 2023. I will now turn the call over to John Menditto, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communication at Lisata. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Lisata's fourth quarter and full year 2022 conference call to discuss our financial results and provide a business update. Joining me today from our management team are Dr. David Mazzo, Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Kristen Buck, Executive Vice President of Research and Development and Chief Medical Officer; and James Nisco, Vice President of Finance and Treasury. Shortly before this call, we issued a press release announcing our fourth quarter and full-year 2022 financial results, which is available under the Investors and News section of the company website along with the webcast replay of this call. If you have not received this news release or you would like to be added to the company's email distribution list, please email me at [email protected]. Before we begin, I will remind you that comments made by management during this conference call will contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties regarding operations and future results of Lisata. I encourage you to review the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, without limitation, its Forms 10-K, 8-K, and 10-Q, which identify specific risk factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. Furthermore, the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the date of live broadcast, Thursday, March 30, 2023. Lisata Therapeutics undertakes no obligation to revise or update any statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call. With that, I will now turn the call over to Dr. Mazzo. Dave?
Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for once again joining us as we provide an overview of recent business highlights and discuss our fourth quarter and full-year 2022 financial results. 2022 was a year of exciting transformation for the company, leading to the emergence of Lisata Therapeutics, a financially stable clinical-stage pharmaceutical company, developing innovative therapies for the treatment of advanced solid tumors and other serious diseases. Our portfolio of product candidates contains treatments in development that are designed to be regenerative and/or to bring significant therapeutic improvement. LSTA1, our lead investigational product candidate from the CendR platform, is the subject of multiple planned and ongoing clinical trials being conducted globally in a variety of solid tumor types and in combination with several anticancer agents. Based on substantial preclinical and importantly, early human clinical data, we believe that LSTA1 has the potential to become an integral part of a revised standard-of-care therapy for many difficult-to-treat cancers. Our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Kristen Buck, will provide more specifics on our clinical programs shortly, following our review of the financial results. However, before we get into that and our financial review, I do want to emphasize some of the characteristics of our company that the general market has overlooked. Those who follow the biotech, biopharma space will undoubtedly know that there are between 200 and 250 companies at any given time today with a market capitalization below their cash balance. We are, in fact, one of those companies. However, unlike most of those companies that are without sufficient cash to execute their development plans through key milestones and are facing extremely difficult and costly financings this year, if they can finance at all, we are well financed through critical milestones on our key programs. In fact, we are able to project available cash will last well into the middle of 2025. That's more than 2 years of operational funding, covering almost a dozen clinical programs, the vast majority of which are designed as blinded, controlled, randomized studies. This is the type of study that yields the most definitive data regarding the development candidate's safety and efficacy. It is our firm belief that as more companies succumb to financial pressures and pare their programs, resort to smaller and less definitive study designs, and/or fold completely, the market will recognize the strength of our financial position and the robustness of our development strategy. To use an often-used analogy, we have many shots on goal, any one of which could provide significant value creation over the next 2 years. With that in mind, our internal focus is on rapid, efficient, and cost-effective execution and continued rigorous capital management, all leading to what we anticipate will be positive study data and benefits for patients, physicians, and our shareholders. And with that, I now turn the call over to James Nisco, our Vice President of Finance and Treasury, to review and provide commentary on our fourth quarter and full-year 2022 financial results. James?
Thanks, Dave. Good afternoon, all. I'm pleased to join you today to present a summary of our fourth quarter and full-year 2022 financial results. Starting with operating expenses. Research and development expenses for the fourth quarter of 2022 were $3.2 million, a 22% decrease compared with $4.1 million for the fourth quarter of 2021 and $13.1 million for the year ended December 31, 2022, compared to $17.6 million for the year ended December 31, 2021, representing a decrease of approximately 26%. These decreases were primarily due to a reduction in expenses associated with our XOWNA Phase IIb study, the FREEDOM trial, as a result of the suspension in enrollment that commenced in the second quarter of 2022 and study closeout activities in the third quarter of 2022, also a decrease in expenses associated with HONEDRA in Japan related to study closeout costs along with one-off recruiting expenses and interim Chief Medical Officer related expenses in the prior year, partially offset by the addition of chemistry, manufacturing, and control activities related to the production of LSTA1 and enrollment activities for the Phase IIb ASCEND study for LSTA1. Spend related to research and development in both periods was a result of expenses associated with our XOWNA Phase IIb study, the FREEDOM trial, expenses associated with our registration-eligible study for HONEDRA in critical limb ischemia in Japan as well as the corresponding regulatory discussions and support expenses and expenses associated with the addition of manufacturing activities for LSTA1, enrollment activities for the LSTA1 Phase IIb ASCEND study, and preparatory activities associated with the design of a planned LSTA1 proof-of-concept basket trial in various solid tumors in combination with the corresponding standards of care. General and administrative expenses, which focused on general corporate-related activities, were $3.3 million for the 3 months ended December 31, 2022, representing an increase of 22% compared to $2.7 million for the 3 months ended December 31, 2021, and $14.1 million for the year ended December 31, 2022, representing an increase of 23% compared to $11.5 million for the year ended December 31, 2021. These increases were primarily due to one-time fee expenses associated with the review of potential strategic transactions, costs related to our merger with Cend Therapeutics, an increase in equity expenses as a result of performance stock unit vesting, merger option assumption expenses, and departing Board member restricted stock unit vesting, in addition to an increase in expenses associated with our annual stockholder meeting. Our general and administrative expenses are comprised of general corporate-related activities. Overall, net losses were $54.2 million, which includes nonroutine merger-related in-process research and development expense of $30.4 million, and $27.5 million for the years ended December 31, 2022, and 2021, respectively. Turning now to our balance sheet and cash flow. As of December 31, 2022, the company had cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities of approximately $69.2 million. Current projections predict operating cash through the first half of 2025 encompassing anticipated data milestones from many and especially our key ongoing and/or planned clinical studies. While we are on the subject of our balance sheet, I also wanted to clarify that none of our treasury investments or cash management services were with or have exposure to Silicon Valley Bank, Signature, or any of the other institutions that recently became insolvent or unstable. I know there have been ripples throughout the sector because of SVB's link to the industry, and I wanted to emphasize that we have no financial ties to any of these institutions. That completes the financial overview. I will now turn the call over to our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Kristen Buck, for the review of our clinical development pipeline. Kristen?
Thank you, James, and good afternoon, everyone. I will be providing a high-level summary of what we are doing at Lisata and why we believe our development programs hold so much promise. Before I do that, though, I'd like to reiterate the basis of belief. Lisata's pipeline is built on a portfolio of proprietary and patented technology that is grounded in strong scientific rationale and a body of published preclinical and early clinical data. Our technologies are designed to address major impediments to successful treatment of cancers and other serious diseases in the context of increasing pharmacoeconomic pressures on the healthcare system. We appreciate the critical importance of generating meaningful clinical data to advance our platform technologies and development candidates. And I assure you that our entire R&D team has this goal top of mind in everything we do. With that, I will now provide a summary and status update for each of Lisata's active clinical development programs, kicking off with our lead product candidate, LSTA1, which we call LSTA1 for the treatment of advanced solid tumors in combination with other anticancer agents. Despite advances in cancer therapy today, many solid tumors remain difficult to effectively treat. Cancers such as pancreatic cancer, gastric cancer, and other solid tumors are surrounded by a dense fibrotic tissue known as the stroma, which limits access of most pharmacotherapies to the tumor. Many tumors also exhibit a hostile tumor microenvironment, or TME, which suppresses a patient's immune system and makes it less effective in fighting the cancer. This, coupled with the fact that most anticancer therapies are not efficient in targeting only the cancer tissue, defines the major challenge of maximizing effectiveness and safety in the treatment of solid tumors. To address this double problem of lack of drug targeting and the tumor stroma's role as the primary impediment to effective treatment, Lisata's approach is to activate the C-end Rule, or CendR system, a naturally occurring active transport system to selectively deliver anticancer drugs through the stroma and into the tumor. Lisata's lead product candidate, LSTA1, is an investigational drug that actuates the CendR active transport mechanism while also having the potential to modify the tumor microenvironment, making it less immunosuppressive. LSTA1 targets tumor vascular endothelial cells as well as tumor cells based on its affinity for alpha v, beta 3, and beta 5 integrins that are upregulated on these cells but not on healthy tissue. LSTA1 is a 9-amino acid, cyclic-internalizing RGD peptide that once bound to these integrins is cleaved by proteases expressed in the tumor microenvironment to release a peptide fragment called a CendR fragment. This linear CendR fragment then has high affinity for Neuropilin-1, which is also upregulated on tumor vascular endothelial and tumor cells to activate the C-end Rule active transport pathway that ferries anticancer drugs more efficiently into solid tumors. Additionally, LSTA1 has been shown in a range of preclinical models to modify the tumor microenvironment, making it less hostile to immune cells and adding to the efficacy of anticancer drugs used against solid tumors. These results come from Lisata and from collaborators and research groups around the world and have been the subject of over 200 scientific publications. Along with our collaborators, we have also amassed significant nonclinical data, demonstrating enhanced delivery of a range of emerging anticancer therapies, including immunotherapies and RNA-based therapeutics. Clinically, LSTA1 has demonstrated a favorable safety, tolerability, and activity profile to enhance the delivery of standard-of-care chemotherapy for patients with metastatic pancreatic cancer. Our development programs are designed to exploit the potential of LSTA1 to enable a variety of anticancer treatment modalities in a range of solid tumors. Currently, LSTA1 is the subject of about a dozen planned and active clinical trials globally for the treatment of various solid tumors, including metastatic pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma, colorectal and appendiceal cancers, glioblastoma multiforme, and peritoneal carcinomatosis, in combination with a variety of anticancer regimens. Additionally, LSTA1 will be evaluated in a Phase II placebo-controlled basket trial, named the BOLSTER trial in advanced solid tumors, including head and neck squamous cell carcinoma, esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, and cholangiocarcinoma, with plans to initiate by the end of the second quarter of this year. Now this is an appropriate time to provide an update on our collaboration with Roche to study LSTA1 in combination with atezolizumab, also known as Tecentriq. Roche's PD-L1 inhibitor is a checkpoint inhibitor along with standard-of-care chemotherapy in patients with metastatic pancreatic ductal carcinoma as part of their Morpheus trial platform. This study has been planned to initiate in the second quarter of 2023, and Roche remains steadfast in their interest in proceeding. However, we were recently informed that they have decided to postpone study initiation until further notice, while they refine their overall development strategy for atezolizumab and await additional dosing information from us, likely from the ongoing ASCEND Phase IIb trial. Fortunately, we are in negotiation with another organization, actually a foundation, in Australia to support at least one trial and possibly multiple trials testing LSTA1 in combination with immunotherapeutics in the same class as atezolizumab. If we are successful in finalizing these arrangements, we will be able to get clinical information to what we expected to get from the Morpheus trial faster and much less expensively. We look forward to providing updates on this plan in the coming months. Turning now to LSTA12, LSTA12, or HONEDRA, in Japan, our product candidate for the treatment of critical limb ischemia, or CLI, and Buerger's disease. HONEDRA was awarded a SAKIGAKE designation from the Japanese regulatory authorities for the treatment of CLI and Buerger's disease, which is an orphan-sized subset of CLI. The SAKIGAKE designation is akin to a Regenerative Medicine Advanced Therapy designation, or an RMAT designation, in the United States. SAKIGAKE designation affords the recipient prioritized regulatory consultation, a dedicated review system to support the development and review process, including the option of a rolling registration submission as well as a reduced review time of approximately 6 months for the registration application once filed. Additionally, under Japan's regenerative medicine legislation, products such as HONEDRA are eligible for early conditional approval and possibly full approval in Japan based on the assessment of the data from the trial or trials designed in direct collaboration with the Japanese Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency, known as the PMDA. Note that conditional approval of a regenerative medicine product only requires the demonstration of a trend toward therapeutic effect together with acceptable safety. Further, the SAKIGAKE designation is a highly sought regulatory classification in Japan, and we hope that this, coupled with positively trending data from our trial, will make HONEDRA an attractive product for partnering with a Japanese pharmaceutical company. Data from the follow-up of all patients treated in the company's registration-eligible study of HONEDRA in Japan for the treatment of CLI and Buerger's disease are consistent with our expectations of therapeutic effect and safety based on previously published clinical trial data generated in Japan and the United States. These data have been compiled and are the subject of discussions with the PMDA as part of the Japanese regulatory pre-consultation process and in preparation for the formal consultation meetings which precede a Japanese new drug application. To date, we would categorize our pre-consultation discussions as very productive. If successful, we would expect a formal clinical consultation to occur later this year. Concomitantly, the company continues its efforts to secure a Japanese partner to complete the remaining steps to produce registration in Japan. It is clear at this time that a successful partnering exercise will depend heavily on the PMDA's decision regarding our ability to proceed to JNDA. Moving on to XOWNA, or LSTA16, for the treatment of coronary microvascular dysfunction or CMD. Coronary microvascular dysfunction is a disease that continues to be underdiagnosed and potentially afflicts millions annually, a vast majority of whom are female with no current treatment options. In May of 2020, the former company Caladrius announced the full data results from the Phase IIa ESCaPE-CMD trial, showing a highly statistically significant improvement in coronary flow reserve, correlating with symptom relief for patients with CMD after a single intracoronary injection of XOWNA. Subsequently, the company initiated a rigorous Phase II clinical trial known as the FREEDOM trial, which, to our knowledge, was the first controlled regenerative medicine trial in CMD in the United States. The FREEDOM trial was a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial designed to corroborate the results of the ESCaPE-CMD trial while assessing the efficacy and safety of delivering autologous CD34 cells, our XOWNA product to subjects with CMD with or without obstructive coronary artery disease. Unfortunately, as previously reported, the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States had both a direct and indirect impact on FREEDOM, which made enrollment much slower than originally predicted and challenging to accelerate. As a result, the company suspended trial enrollment and conducted an interim analysis of the data. Following this analysis and along with key opinion leaders' input, the company determined the execution of a redesigned FREEDOM-like trial would be the next appropriate step, but the cost of such a trial would be prohibitively expensive to undergo without a strategic partner. Thus, XOWNA development will only be continued as a strategic partner that can contribute the necessary capital for future development is identified and secured. And lastly, LSTA201 for the treatment of diabetic kidney disease, or DKD. The company initiated a Phase Ib open-label proof-of-concept trial evaluating LSTA201, the CD34+ regenerative cell therapy investigational product for intra-renal artery administration in patients with diabetic kidney disease. This development program focuses on patients that exhibit rapidly progressing Stage IIIB/IV disease. The scientific rationale for the program was based on association of progressive kidney disease with attrition of the microcirculation of the kidney. Preclinical studies in kidney disease and injury models have demonstrated that protection or replenishment of the microcirculation resulted in an improvement in kidney function. Our proof-of-concept protocol provided for a staggered sequentially dose cohort of 6 patients overseen by an independent data safety monitoring board with the objective of determining the tolerance of intra-renal artery cell therapy injection in diabetic kidney disease patients as well as the ability of LSTA201 to regenerate kidney function. The first patient was treated in April of 2022, and all 6 subjects were treated in the third quarter of 2022. As reported on 6th February 2023, the top line results showed that LSTA201 was safe and well tolerated by patients, with no serious adverse events related to therapy. However, the study did not demonstrate a consistent improvement in kidney function among patients. That said, we still believe, based on the encouragement received from the study's principal investigator and other key opinion leaders, that there still may be potential for the use of CD34 cell therapy for the treatment of diabetic kidney disease. Further development of LSTA201 will certainly require significantly larger studies and a capital investment. Thus, development by Lisata would only be continued if a strategic partner that can contribute the necessary capital for future development is identified. With that, I will now turn the call back to Dave.
Thank you, Kristen. Having some difficulty with the technology here. As you've heard, our creative team is working hard to maximize the value potential of our development pipeline and to drive our programs to clinical success. We've designed our studies to provide clear results as fast and extensively as reasonably practicable. Nevertheless, we understand and certainly share your impatience in getting to quality data as soon as possible, and we are focused on doing everything within our control to achieve this goal. We are excited by the promise of our platform technologies and pipeline of product and partnering opportunities, and look forward to providing updates on our progress in the coming months. And with that overview, operator, we're now ready to take questions. Operator, are there any questions on the line?
Our first question comes from the line of Joseph Pantginis of H.C. Wainwright.
This is Sara on for Joe. We were just wondering if you could provide perhaps some color on how activities are currently going in Australia and what your expectations are moving forward?
Certainly. Thanks for the question and for joining us today. We typically don't provide weekly or monthly updates on enrollment specifics. However, I can share that our activities in Australia are going extremely well. You can visit our website for a copy of the corporate presentation, which lists all the various trials and their locations. The largest trial, the ASCEND trial currently underway in Australia, is ahead of schedule in terms of enrollment completion and is making good progress. We expect to offer a more detailed update in the coming month or so. Overall, things are moving along very nicely, and several other trials that are planned to start in Australia are also set to begin soon, so we are very pleased with the progress made by our Australian clinical investigator colleagues.
Our next question comes from Pete Enderlin of MAZ Partners.
Just following up on that last question. Dave, can you give us an idea how many people you are shooting to enroll in that program and what the cost may be? I think there's some nice cost-sharing with Australia as well, but can you give more details on that?
Sure. So the actual details of the clinical trials can be found on clinicaltrials.gov, and none of this is secret. The ASCEND trial is targeted to enroll between 125. And ultimately, I think our goal would be closer to 155 patients. And the costs there are probably about half of what they would be or even less than half of what they would be if conducted in the United States. And then on top of that, we get about half of that back as a direct cash reimbursement for R&D work being done in Australia, through the Australian government.
Okay. And just a sort of a general process question or I mean, like a technology question regarding stroma, which is the main basis for a lot of these trials and opportunities. Are there varying degrees of permeability of the stroma in different kinds of cancers? And is that one of the things that determines what makes a particular cancer very potentially susceptible to this kind of treatment?
I'm going to ask Kristen, our Chief Medical Officer, to jump in and answer that question. Kristen?
Yes. Thank you. Different types of tumors have varying characteristics in their stroma, which is why we have focused on advanced cancers like metastatic pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma and cholangiocarcinoma. These types have significantly advanced stromas. Our targeting asset selectively binds to integrins and neuropilin, both of which are elevated in the stroma, particularly in cancer-associated fibroblasts that are prevalent in these areas. We believe that while other chemotherapies and immunotherapies have struggled, we can effectively reach and treat these challenging tumors through their stroma. This is the foundation of our development program.
Okay. And another core technology question. Broadly, is there an industry trend toward more combination therapies? I think there is, but I don't really have any sense of how widespread that is becoming at this point. And most of these, of course, would be combinations.
All will be combinations, to be clear. And I don't know if there is an increasing trend, but it's been pretty much the standard practice for at least 5 to 10 years, if not longer, in oncology to use cocktails of therapies to maximize the response rates for patients. And so I think that you'll see that many of the newly emerging technologies like immunotherapies are being studied as monotherapies and then also in combination with existing chemotherapies and other modalities. So I think the cocktail approach is something that's going to remain popular until such time as a single agent can do the job better.
Okay. Dave, can you clarify the milestones you are aiming for regarding the $225 million total? How many milestones are there, and could you provide a general description of what they entail? Are they related to approvals or Phase II and III trials?
Sure. So Pete, I'm going to ask our Chief Business Officer, David Slack, to jump in and address that. And while he's getting off mute and getting ready to speak, I'll just mention that we can't disclose all the specifics of that contract because of the confidentiality arrangement. But David can tell you what's in the public domain.
Yes, that's correct. There are development and regulatory-based milestones as well as some commercial-based milestones. The development milestones hinge on advancement into more late-stage clinical trials, as well as regulatory milestones such as filing and approval. As Dave mentioned, I think the exact magnitude of those has not been publicly disclosed, so we'll refrain from going deeper.
Can you say at all how many different milestones are involved in that $225 million?
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The company's main focus has significantly shifted compared to a year ago. While we discussed CD34 extensively, the real potential moving forward appears to be more closely tied to the Cend technology. Do you think this raises any questions about the credibility of the company's previous efforts?
Not at all, I don't think. This is drug development, Pete. Things work, things don't work, things work but then aren't recognized or not being willing to be paid for. There are all sorts of factors that come into play, and it's a dynamic environment. I think that we actually did a very good job of conducting efficient and effective development programs for autologous cell therapies. But the market never recognized the potential and never rewarded the company for that potential. And it was in an area of cardiovascular disease, where further development was becoming increasingly expensive because of the size and the duration of the studies required. So I think actually, the company's credibility should be enhanced by the smart business decisions taken to move to something where we can generate data in a reasonable period of time at a reasonable cost and where the market should recognize it eventually.
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Brozak of WBB.
Getting back to what you were just describing regarding the model and Lisata's corporate strategy, you mentioned earlier that between 200 and 250 companies were trading below cash. I want to better understand this. The new biotech model is obviously something unprecedented, where a company utilizes all of its assets to maximize returns and engage in activities that would typically require leveraging external partners. Can you explain the differences you're observing in potential partnerships and collaborations going forward? I have one more question after that.
Sure. Thank you, Steve. Yes, I think there are a number of external factors that have influenced significantly our internal strategy and some new developments that have actually then reinforced our decisions. I think most people on the phone are familiar with the Inflation Reduction Act, which I'm not going to give a brief overview of, but which generally is designed to allow the government to negotiate or even mandate prices on drugs a certain number of years after their launch to reduce the cost of the overall healthcare system. But in so doing, we limit returns to the folks who invested in those drugs. And so the anticipation is that as a result of the financial gaps that losing products sooner than might have been originally anticipated when they were launched several years ago, in big pharma especially, that big pharma is going to become more acquisitive, and they're going to be looking to pick up additional products. And then on top of that, I think there's a general consensus that the specialty pharma model, where companies accumulate small to midsize in terms of sales revenue products to generate a lucrative business, I think we're going to see a resurgence of that, which also leads to product acquisition. And I think that plays right into what we're doing with LSTA1, where we're looking to exploit the full breadth of its applicability in terms of indications and in terms of combinations with other companies, making many, many companies, I think, potential partners. And we've seen that over the last 3 to 6 months where we are talking to not only the big players, but regional players and players who may not historically have been major factors in the oncology world.
And following up on that with looking at the CD34 platform and the breadth of experience, not just here in the United States, but globally, how would you assess the potential interest, the partnering possibilities and everything along those lines, given the fact that you've got as much broad-based experience and we're starting to see changes in terms of regulatory and obviously, the clinical and pharmaceutical industry needs. What would you say there?
Well, I wouldn't give up hope on the ability for us to partner CD34. The partnering may come from surprising places. So I think we're seeing more interest in markets that would traditionally have been thought to be immune to such an innovative or potentially expensive therapy, but we've had a number of conversations in that regard. And as Kristen pointed out, our regulatory process in Japan, while it moves at, if I may say this, Japan speed, which is generally slower than U.S. speed, it's moving forward. And as we get closer and closer to a positive decision from the PMDA about our ability and our eligibility to file a Japanese new drug application, I think we'll see the folks who have been focused on that particular decision then make positive overtures towards us to acquire that product in Japan.
Our next question comes from Kemp Dolliver of Brookline Capital Markets.
I'm Shubhendu for Kemp. I was wondering when can we expect more updates for the Tecentriq trial with Roche?
Okay. Well, as Kristen said in her prepared remarks, the simple answer is we don't know. We were informed recently that they, Roche, are reviewing their internal strategy relative to development and investment in Tecentriq. As a result, they've asked us to postpone the initiation of the LSTA1 arm of Morpheus until some later date. And they've also asked us for some additional dosing information, some of which we've already provided from available information but some of which may come from the ASCEND trial. So I'm sorry, but at this point, it's probably a question better asked of Roche, but we just really don't know. The good news, however, is that we have at least one program and likely two that we can substitute for that, which will not cost us anything, whereas the Roche costs were going to be several million dollars a year and will provide us identical information in terms of the ability of LSTA1 to positively influence the immunotherapies and to do so in a faster time frame. So we'll keep you posted on those developments because we will have some control over that.
Our next question comes from Pete Enderlin of MAZ Partners.
Pete, you there?
Yes, the purely semantic correct answer is no.
Okay. Well, fair enough. I'm glad you're being candid about that. And second, the Cend technology, to me, is very complicated because I'm basically not very well educated in that area. But what key intellectual property do you have? And how much of it is patent protected as opposed to being in the general domain? Because you've had like 200 studies or articles that were published, so some of that must be public knowledge at this point. How does that shake out?
All of the publications are either supportive of the patent applications or were released after the patents were announced or applied for. As a result, we have strong intellectual property, and there is information on the website regarding this. We hold composition-of-matter and mode-of-operation patents that cover the Cend technology and the platform technology well into the next decade.
Okay. And is there any sort of handy reference on the total number of those patents domestically and internationally?
Again, I'll refer you to the website so I don't misquote the number, but there's a bunch.
Okay. And then just one last little point. Is it possible that the company will, after the dust has settled from the merger, speed up the quarterly and yearly reporting cycles?
Well, quarterly and yearly are not under our control. So quarterly only comes every 3 months, and yearly only comes every 12 months. So I don't know how we can speed that up.
But what I mean is here it is the last day of the quarter, and you're reporting for 2022. That's pretty late, really.
Actually, it's not. Look at the reporting of almost all other public companies. To complete a full-year audit, we're at the mercy of our external auditors. And everybody who's working on a calendar year as their fiscal year is trying to do this at the same time, often with all the same external auditors. So we try to go as fast as we can, but we're at the mercy of the external sources.
I'm showing no further questions at this time. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Dr. Mazzo for closing remarks.
Again, thank you all for participating in today's call. Appreciate all the questions that were asked, and I hope the responses were clarifying. We look forward to speaking with you again during our next quarterly conference call and to continue to provide updates on our achievements and progress. We remain grateful for your continued interest and support, and we wish you a good evening. Stay well, and goodbye.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.