Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MGIC Investment Corporation fourth quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. At the end of today's presentation, we'll have a question and answer session. If anyone is required to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone keypad. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Diana Higgins, head of investor relations. please go ahead.

Thank you, Howard. Good morning and welcome, everyone. Thank you for your interest in MGIC. Joining me on today's call to discuss our results for the fourth quarter are Tim Mackey, Chief Executive Officer, and Nathan Colson, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Risk Officer. Our press release, which contains MGIC's fourth quarter financial results, was issued yesterday and is available on our website at mtg.mgic.com under newsroom includes additional information about our quarterly results that we will reference during today's call as well as a reconciliation of non-GAM financial measures to their most comparable GAM measures. In addition, we posted a quarterly supplement on our website that provides details about our primary risk and force and other information you may find valuable. As a reminder, from time to time, we may post updates to our underwriting guidelines, additional presentations or corrections to past materials on our website. Before we get started today, I want to remind everyone that during today's call, we may make forward looking statements regarding our expectations for the future. actual results could differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements additional information about the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in today's calls is included in our 8k files yesterday if we make any forward looking statements we are not undertaking an obligation to update those statements in the future in light of subsequent events no one should rely on the fact that such guidance or forward looking statements are current at any time other than the time of this call or the issuance of our 8k with that i now have the pleasure of turning the call over to tim thank you diana and good morning everyone we delivered another quarter of solid financial results closing 2025 strong and entering the new year from a position of strength.

This performance is a continuation of the sustained momentum we have built over the past several years. Our performance stems from being grounded in decades of experience across a wide range of market cycles, discipline risk management, and a thoughtful, measured approach to the market. We pair our expertise with a customer-centric mindset, continually evolving to meet the changing needs of our customers and the broader market. Turning to a few financial highlights, in the quarter we earned net income of $169 million, producing an annualized 13% return on equity. For the full year, we earned net income of $738 million and the full year return on equity was 14.3%. Our strong operating performance and robust balance sheet enabled us to grow book value per share to $23.47, 30% higher year over year. As I mentioned on last quarter's call, we are proud to have achieved a significant milestone in our company's history in the industry first during the year, surpassing $300 billion of insurance in force. We continue to grow insurance in force in the fourth quarter, ending the year with more than $303 billion, up 3% from a year ago. Annual persistency remained elevated and stable throughout 2025, standing the quarter at 85%, in line with our expectations at the start of the year. We wrote $17 billion of high-quality new business in the fourth quarter and $60 billion for the full year, an increase of 8% from the prior year. Consensus Mortgage Origination Forecast projects the size of EMI market in 2026 will be relatively similar to 2025, with mortgage rates remaining elevated. Overall, we expect insurance and force to remain relatively flat in 2026. If mortgage rates were to decrease more in 2026 than currently predicted, we expect the size of the EMI market would benefit due to increased refinance volume, but growth in insurance and force would be offset by lower persistency. Our focus remains on building and maintaining a strong, well-diversified insurance portfolio. Credit quality of our insurance portfolio remains solid, with an average credit score at origination of 748. To date, we have not seen a material change in the credit performance of our portfolio, and early payment defaults remain low, which we believe is a good indicator of near-term credit trends. As discussed throughout the year, financial strength and flexibility are the cornerstones of our capital management strategy, positioning us to perform well across a range of economic environments. as part of our strategy we regularly evaluate capital levels of both the operating company and holding company taking into account current and potential future environments to position ourselves for success an approach that has consistently served our stakeholders well as part of this we continue to bolster our reinsurance program through the use of forward commitment quarter share agreements and excess of loss agreements executed in either the traditional reinsurance or capital markets. In addition to reducing loss volatility and stress scenarios, these agreements provide capital diversification and flexibility at attractive costs. We remained active in the reinsurance market in the fourth quarter and in January. In the fourth quarter, as previously announced, we further strengthen our reinsurance program with a $250 million excess of loss transaction covering our 2021 NIW and a 40% quarter share transaction that will cover most of our 2027 NIW. We also amended the terms of our quarter share treaties covering our 2022 NIW, with most participants from the existing reinsurance panel, reducing the ongoing cost by approximately 40% beginning in 2026. In addition, in January, we completed our eighth insurance-like note transaction, which provides $324 million of loss protection and cover certain policies written between January 2022 and March 2025. These reinsurance activities are aligned with our long-term strategy and reflect our consistent, disciplined approach to managing risk and capital. At the end of the fourth quarter, our reinsurance program reduced our PMIRS-required assets by $2.8 billion for approximately 47%. With that, let me turn it over to Nathan to provide more details on our financial results and capital management activities for the quarter.

Thanks, Taylor. Good morning. As Tim mentioned, we had another quarter of solid financial results. We earned net income of $0.75 per diluted share compared to $0.72 during the fourth quarter last year. For the full year, we earned net income of $3.14 per diluted share compared to $2.89 per diluted share last year. Our re-estimation of ultimate losses on prior delinquencies resulted in 31 million dollars of favorable loss reserve development in the quarter the favorable development was primarily driven by delinquency notices we received in 2024 and in the first half of 2025 as cure rates on recent new notices continue to exceed our expectations for new delinquency notices received in the quarter we continue to apply the initial claim rate assumption of 7.5 percent consistent with recent periods. Our count-based delinquency rate increased three basis points from the prior year and 11 basis points in the quarter. The sequential increase is in line with our expectations and reflects normal seasonal patterns as well as the continued aging of our 2021 and 2022 book years as we have discussed on prior calls. The three basis point year-over-year increase was the slowest rate of increase since the first quarter of 2024, and we believe reflects the continued normalization of credit conditions that we have discussed throughout the year. Turning to our revenue, the enforced premium yield was 38 basis points in the quarter and remained relatively flat during the year, consistent with what we expected at the start of the year. Given expectations of a similar MI market to 2025, we expect the enforced premium yield to remain near 38 basis points again in 2026. Investment income totaled $62 million in the fourth quarter and again contributed meaningfully to revenue. The book yield on our investment portfolio was 4% at the end of the quarter. Investment income remained relatively flat sequentially and year-over-year as both the book yield and the size of the investment portfolio have also remained relatively flat during the quarter reinvestment rates on our fixed income portfolio continued to exceed our book yield and remain relatively flat for the year the unrealized loss position on our portfolio narrowed again this quarter by 16 million dollars primarily driven by lower interest rates underwriting and other expenses in the quarter were 46 million dollars down from 49 million in the fourth quarter last year. For the full year, expenses were $201 million, down $17 million from 2024, and within the $195 to $205 million range we shared throughout the year. We remain committed to disciplined expense management and ongoing operational efficiency across the organization. For 2026, we expect operating expenses to decline further to a range of 190 to 200 million dollars due primarily to higher expected seating commissions as we have recently renegotiated several season quota share reinsurance treaties instead of canceling those treaties turning to our capital management activities consistent with our approach over the past several years we prioritize prudent insurance and force growth over capital return over the past several years market conditions have constrained the growth of our insurance in force Against that backdrop, our capital return activity reflects our robust capital position, continued strong credit performance and financial results, and share price levels that we believe are attractive to generate long-term value for our shareholders. In the fourth quarter, we paid a quarterly common stock dividend of $33 million and repurchased 6.8 million shares of common stock for $189 million. dollars. For the full year we returned 915 million dollars of capital to our shareholders through a combination of share repurchases and dividends and reduced shares outstanding by 12 percent. This represents a 124 percent payout ratio of the year's net income and our quarterly dividend increased by 15 percent in the third quarter marking five consecutive years of dividend growth. In January we repurchased an additional 2.7 million shares of common stock for a total of 73 million dollars in addition in january as previously announced the board approved the quarterly common stock dividend of 15 cents per share payable on march 6. all of these actions were taken while continuing to strengthen our balance sheet and enhance flexibility during the year we paid 800 million dollars in dividends from mjsc to the holding company during the year ending the year with 1 billion dollars of liquidity at the holding company and in excess to PMIRs of $2.5 billion at the operating company. With that, let me turn it back over to Tim.

Thanks, Nathan. As the founder of Modern Private Mortgage Insurance, nearly 70 years ago, we strived to be the most trusted and transparent partner in the MI industry. We are part of the critical role private MI plays in the housing finance system. We look forward to continuing to work with industry stakeholders, including the FHFA and the GSEs, to responsibly serve low-down payment borrowers, expand the use of private MI, protect the taxpayers from mortgage credit risk, and help shape the future of housing finance system. With that said, housing affordability remains a challenge for many prospective homebuyers. We continue to actively participate in industry discussions and support responsible policy changes that improve affordability. The passage of the working family tax cut restored the tax deductibility of MI premiums, providing meaningful tax relief to homeowners without increasing risk to the housing finance system. In addition, the cost of private mortgage insurance premiums represents a temporary expense, unlike other ongoing homeownership costs, such as homeowners insurance and property taxes, which have risen significantly. Private mortgage insurance plays an important role in enabling low-down payment borrowers into the market and achieves the American dream of homeownership sooner. In closing, we had a strong year, successfully executing our business strategies and returning meaningful capital to our shareholders. I'm confident in our talented team, our position in the market, as well as our ability to continue executing and delivering on our business strategies in 2026 and beyond to create long-term value for all of our stakeholders. With that, Howard, let's take questions.

Please press star 11 on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star 11 again. Again, if you have a question or comment at this time please press star one one on your telephone keypad please stand by while we compile the q a roster our first question or comment comes from the line of bose george from kbw mr george your line is open hey guys good morning um if you first wanted to ask about any you know price competition or changes you're seeing in the industry i mean based on your comments it sounds like you know freedoms are very stable but just wanted to confirm that yeah i think both i mean i think you know we don't like to comment too much on industry pricing generally but i think from our perspective you know we were able to to sort of find the value where we wanted it

this quarter similar to what we've been seeing for the majority of the year um without having you know major sort of adjustments in our in our premium um you know in the quarter so i think we feel good about that again we focus on the returns ultimately and what we can get um but felt pretty good stability there you know back looking back the last quarter.

Okay great thanks and then switching over to sort of regulatory stuff in the market seems quite you know worked up about a potential reduction in FHA premiums. Have you seen anything from the FHA itself or from you know the administration that suggests that that is a possibility?

You know I always view when when it comes to affordability and sort of looking at different levers i always view it as as a possibility i don't get the sense that it's viewed as any more possible or any more works being done specifically on it um right now than sort of making sure they understand sort of the different levers that can be pulled so again it's really tough to to sort of try to put odds on it other than i would say that i don't get the sense that there is any you know increasing sort of discussion and people we talked with about it other than I think whenever you look at affordability we know that certain constituencies will advocate for reducing the FHA premium and that always creates external pressure but haven't seen anything just to believe that that is imminent but that can change quickly in

this world right okay great thanks thank you our next question or comment comes from the line of Terry Maher from Barclays. Mr. Maher, your line is open.

Mr. Maher, you may be muted.

Hey, yes. Sorry, I was muted. Good morning. Thank you. Hey, I was interested to see if you could provide kind of any color and kind of trend that you're seeing kind of by region or state.

Terry, Nathan, I'll take that one. You know, we do look at the mix of new delinquencies that we're seeing on a monthly basis and really haven't seen much in the way of movement on a geographic basis whether it be state or even at the market level um you know i think when when we look at the mix of new notices from you know the first quarter the second quarter the third quarter compared to the fourth um you know not seeing states that are really standing out um one way or the other i think there's there's always some noise especially with the relatively low level of new notices that we have um you know some of the jurisdictions are relatively small numbers so it It can be a little bit noisier, but as a kind of percent of the total, I'm really not seeing areas that are standing out or areas of concern for us right now.

Got it. That's helpful. And then on the reserve release in the quarter, appreciate the color on kind of makeup. But can you maybe just kind of remind us how that compares to the makeup or the drivers of the release that you've had in the last, you know, few quarters? I know not a great way to look at it, but at least the magnitude of the release was noticeably lower than what you saw last few quarters.

Yeah, I'm curious, Nathan, again. I think the way that we've approached reserving and the way that then the reserve releases have kind of mechanically worked is unchanged. You know, we're always comparing our initial estimates to, you know, what we now think is the best estimate. You know, in our business, cures come earlier than claims, so early cures don't give you as much new information about ultimate losses. So, you know, from what we're seeing a couple quarters ago, we would have seen reserve development coming out of maybe notices that we had received two, three, four, five quarters before, and it kind of keeps moving forward as time advances. So, I would say, you know, the quarters where development is coming from are different, but mostly because, you know, we're just further in time. So, we had development, say, on the notices from the first half of 2025. We wouldn't have had that, you know, say in Q2, but it would have been from the back half of 24, you know, those notices that had been aged for two or three quarters. So, and that's not a kind of a rule or anything for us. It's really looking at how many are curing, what is the monthly pace and quarterly pace at which they're curing, how closely are they following previously identified trends in cure activity, and really where do we think it will ultimately play out and continue to be re-estimating down new notice quarters from our initial estimates of 7.5% down into of the lower single digits.

Got it. That's helpful.

Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Doug Harder from UBS. Mr. Harder, your line is now open.

Thanks. I guess along those lines of the last question, can you just talk about the composition of the NODs and kind of what vintages those are coming from and, you know, kind of as we get to the newer vintages with less HPA, how do you think that might impact cures?

Yeah, Doug, it's Nathan. I think on the cures side, you know, really haven't seen a lot of divergence in cure activity based on vintage. I think, you know, perhaps the 2022 vintage is at the lower end of the range as we would look at cure rates by vintage for delinquent loans, but still, all of them, I'd say, a pretty tight band and much better than pre-COVID levels. You know, the long-term cure rates are really what are driving the ultimate reductions and our ultimate loss expectations. So, I think not seeing much on the cure rate side. On the delinquency emergence, you know, we have got a couple, you know, tables and charts in the supplement. One of them does look at delinquency rates over time by vintage, and you can see 2022 is running modestly higher than 21 or 20 or even 2019, but the recent vintages are all tracking very close to that or inside of that. So, again, I think this is all consistent in our mind with the normalization and credit conditions coming off of, you know, kind of early post-COVID conditions that just led to, you know, very, very low losses for those vintages.

Thank you.

Our next question or comment comes from the line of Gialano Bologna from Compass. Mr. Bologna, your line is open.

Congrats on your execution and, you know, especially on the expense management side. And when I look forward to next year, obviously, you know, you put out the $190 to $200 range for underwriting operating expenses. I'd be curious, you know, especially looking at this environment, you know, are there any other levers that you could pull to improve, you know, returns on capital, at least in the near term? Otherwise, the environment's relatively tough when insurance enforces, you know, is barely growing or expected to be roughly flat. And here's what other levers you might have, you know, that you could pull to, you know, push some of the rental margin at this point.

Yes, Nathan, I'll get started on this. I think the biggest thing that we've done this year, really in anticipation of a normalization in credit conditions and the movement away from what has been close to zero losses for the last couple of years, is really getting the reinsurance program really bolstered with really attractive costs on our enforce book, but increasingly covering our future new business. You know, 2026 and 2027, NIW is now covered. And, you know, when you think about return on capital, we often think about that as return on PMIR's capital. And, you know, the reinsurance at the cost that we're able to procure it does provide us, you know, better returns on equity than we earn on a return on capital basis. And that's why I think capital management for us is so important. And it's not just the capital return side of it. that's also how we're constructing our capital balance sheet for our regulatory capital measures, our risk-based capital measures, rating agencies and the like. And increasingly, that has taken on an even heavier reinsurance thing, partly because of the attractiveness of that market and the tail risk protection that it provides, but partly because we do think that that is the best way to continue to earn kind of good risk adjusted returns on equity.

That's very helpful and then you know you just partially addressed but you know obviously during you know trying to pick up and refinancing activity and kind of the expected continuation of that you know it's somewhat disproportionately impacting you know or it's your disproportionately impact your high LAC coupons that you have out there. I'm curious is there any is there a big divergence in the premium rates between you know, some of your lower lack insurance enforced versus, you know, some of the more recent ventures that seem to be that are being much more exposed to, you know, refinance activity at the moment. And, you know, should that impact your average premium rate, you know, throughout the year?

Yeah, it's an interesting question.

I don't – premium rates on average have been relatively flat for the last, you know, five or six years. You know, you can see that in our our enforced premium yield um the really low coupon books that we wrote in 2020 and 2021 had the much lower credit risk at origination characteristics so all else equal they would have had lower premium rates there's a lot of refinance activity in those books whereas the more recent higher coupon books have been purchase dominated you know higher ltv still really good credit profile especially from a credit score perspective but um i i don't i don't think that But I think, you know, it's less about maybe the vintage effect and more if we're already insuring a loan, if that refi's into something that has a lower capital charge and lower, you know, kind of ad origination credit characteristics, you know, all of CEQA will get lower premium for that loan in a risk-based pricing market.

That's very helpful. I appreciate that. And I will go back in to you. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Mihir Bhatia from Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Good morning.

Thank you for taking my questions.

The first one I wanted to ask was just about enforced premium yield. It declined to touch this quarter after being steady for most of 25. What drove that?

Yeah, Mihir, Nathan, you know, it was down a couple tenths of a basis point, And I think, you know, that's just, I think for us, you know, within the margin of flat, it does fluctuate a little bit. I think, you know, we wrote more business in Q4 than we would have otherwise anticipated due to refinance activities that increases the ending in force, but it doesn't add to premium because we don't collect premium in the, you know, often in the first month. It's really, you know, starts in the second month. so i think you're dealing with um you know some some really uh situations like that versus there being you know any substantive change in in the mix of the enforce or the you know premium dollars on a direct basis for up um so i think it probably has more to do with the insurance and force dollars going up at the end such that the the average is a little bit higher and drove the yield lower. But, again, those things often will normalize over more than a quarter. Got it.

And then, I guess, somewhat related, but in your prepared remarks, you talked about insurance-enforcing flat, even if the market ends up being a little bigger because you think you'll have a give back, if you will, on persistency.

That didn't happen this quarter.

So I guess maybe just talk a little bit about that. Why do you think it would happen at least early on in the early stages of, you know, a rate cut potentially or a larger market? Like just given it didn't happen in fourth quarter where you wrote more in IAW, but persistency stayed pretty high.

Yeah, I think, Tam, I think it's all within sort of a range of outcomes. I think what we want to make sure that we are clear about is that when refi activity, normally it's going to be times refi that happens from MI into MI and that there's going to be downward pressure on persistency and so it's just if there's more NIW volume it doesn't just in order to sort of a total increase in insurance and force so yeah we did have a slight increase this quarter to call it with a with an increase in sort of refi activity pretty substantial increase for refi activity but it's a very I'd say marginal sort of increase in insurance and force and so So I think just trying to make sure the temporary explication is appropriate is that even if interest rates fall and the majority of the pick up in volume is from refi activity, that that has downward pressure opportunity.

And then maybe I'll just wrap with this one, just in terms of credit trends from here. Anything we should be keeping in mind as we think about default rate as we look at 26 and 27, just even from a vintage size perspective? Are we through the peak years for the last vintages? Does vintage size maybe become a bit of a good guy for DQ rate from here, given persistency is staying elevated? Just any thoughts there on this default rate?

Coming here, Nathan, I think that's possible. You know, our expectations now are for a pretty similarly sized market. And with, you know, home price appreciation being relatively modest, the dollar growth that we've enjoyed in certain years, even if the units weren't growing as much, we don't think will be as strong. so I it does feel like we're off of the lows though in terms of the the new business that we wrote say in 23 or 24 it also feels like there's maybe more upside risk to to NIW than downside at this point given the given the refi volume we saw when rates you know went directionally lower but not that much lower just into the low sixes generated a lot of refi activity so um that that could become uh it could definitely become something that that is a benefit to the enforce um delinquency rate but i think it's worth seeing it today you know the next couple of vintages are maybe modestly higher so any impact like that would be relatively modest okay thank you thank you for taking my questions thank you i'm sure no additional questions in the queue at this time i like to i'm sorry we I have a follow-up question from Mr. Bose-George from KBW.

Mr. George, your line is open.

Hey, guys, thanks for the follow-up. Actually, for modeling the seeded premium number going forward, like what's a good run rate for that, the impact on the premium?

I think many of the lines for seeded premium, and we have this in our earnings release in the supplement. I think the challenging one to model is the profit commission on the quarter share. deals because as we have higher losses, we're ceding those losses to the quota share deals, but then earning less profit commission. So the answer to that question is quite a bit dependent on your expectations around future losses. And that's something that we haven't given guidance on and don't intend to going forward just because the nature of our business and the potential variability there but um if it'd be helpful to to work through the mechanics of the profit commission happy to follow up offline too okay and just to understand so the increase in the seeded premiums this quarter it was a reflection of that was a chain reflection of a change in the uh the profit commission is that right that's that's largely the case um you know the profit commission was down about four million dollars sequentially um and and that's really because we seeded additional losses under the quota share agreements so you know we're from a net cost perspective it it doesn't have an impact we're getting it back on on the loss line um but it does impact premium line um so and and we do have the profit commission broken out separately um for each quarter so you can you can see that but it was down like i said about four million dollars in the quarter okay okay great thanks thank you i'm sure no additional questions in the queue at this time i would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks thank you howard i want to thank you everyone for your interest in mdic

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