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Earnings call · FY2025 Q3

Patterson Uti Energy Inc (PTEN) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Rebecca and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Patterson UTI third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Michael Sabella, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Michael Sabella Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Rebecca. Good morning and welcome to Patterson UTI's earnings conference call to discuss our third quarter 2025 results with me today are andy hendricks president and chief executive officer and andy smith chief financial officer as a reminder statements that are made in this conference call that refer to the company's or management's plans intentions targets beliefs expectations or predictions for the future are considered forward-looking statements these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties as disclosed in the company's SEC filings, which could cause the company's actual results to differ materially. The company takes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. Statements made in this conference call include non-GAAP financial measures. The required reconciliations to GAAP financial measures are included on our website at patenergy.com and in the company's press release issued prior to this conference call. I will now turn the call over to Andy Hendricks, Patterson UTI's Chief Executive Officer.

Thank you, Mike, and welcome to our third quarter earnings conference call. The performance at Patterson UTI has continued to demonstrate resilience this year, and our teams have done a great job executing in a challenging environment and staying focused on optimizing our business in the areas that we can control. We are continuing to see success as we enhance our commercial strategies through additional service and product line integration and performance-based agreements, while at the same time lowering our cost structure, which is helping us to lessen the impact from moderating industry activity this year. Headlines over the past six months have highlighted cautionary signals, including oil supply growth from OPEC+, shifting demand patterns as trade policies evolve, and overall global macroeconomic uncertainty. But the U.S. shale picture today is more constructive than many expected just a few months ago. Oil prices have fallen, but overall have so far remained more resilient than many predicted, with long-term global demand growth continuing and anticipated supply additions slower to translate into physical barrels than headlines have suggested. At Patterson UTI, while the business environment this year has brought unique challenges, we are adapting with the market, both commercially and structurally, and we continue to generate healthy levels of free cash flow while still investing to expand our technology edge. Our efforts and focus today center on driving improvements in our outlook for profitability and cash generation against a steady market backdrop, and each of our businesses are stepping up to this challenge. In the U.S., oil production does not yet fully reflect the impact of activity reductions over the past six months, and we believe current industry activity is already below levels needed to hold U.S. production flat. Any further activity reductions from current levels would likely result in additional pressure on future U.S. output, which could negatively impact global oil supply in 2026. On the natural gas side, the outlook as we move into 2026 appears to be favorable. Physical demand growth from LNG is now starting to come online, and our customers are beginning to make plans to satisfy the expected multi-year growth in demand, which is likely to require higher drilling and completion activity compared to current levels. Even as U.S. shale drilling and completions activity is moderated through 2025, our teams have delivered results that are far more resilient relative to prior periods of activity moderation our customers are sophisticated and they are demanding innovative technologies from both our drilling and completions businesses which is widening the performance delta among service providers the increasing reliance on differentiated technologies puts patterson uti in a strong position given the high quality of our operations we expect this relative margin resiliency to continue as customers rely more on high-end service providers operationally our teams are functioning at a high level in a competitive market our drilling team has seen activity stabilized and our rib count today is slightly above where we were at the end of the third quarter our completion activity continues today at a similar level relative to where we exited September and we expect completion activity will remain steady for most of the quarter although typical seasonality is likely to impact the segment during the holidays. As the market studies, we see opportunities in both our drilling and completions businesses to invest in technologies that are in high demand and short supply, with our expectation that any incremental investments will earn strong returns. As we prepare our 2026 budget, we are working with technology-focused customers on opportunities to deploy new technologies in both drilling and completions, and expanding our competitive edge should widen the advantage we believe we have over much of the industry. As we approach 2026, while we are not ready to give specific guidance for what we expect next year to look like, we are comfortable saying that we do expect lower capital expenditures compared to 2025. Even on lower capex next year, we expect to fully maintain the high demand portion of our fleet, as well as invest in new technologies across our businesses, while still generating meaningful free cash flow for our investors. We remain committed to returning at least 50% of our annual free cash flow to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share repurchases. Moving to capital allocation, we are operating with significant flexibility, with the expectation for continued solid free cash flow and a strong balance sheet, giving us optionality for 2026 and beyond. Our leverage remains low, with net debt to EBITDA just over one time. We closed the quarter with $187 million in cash and an undrawn $500 million revolver. And the fourth quarter should deliver our strongest free cash flow quarter of the year, which should strengthen our capital flexibility as we head into 2026. We will continue to deploy capital only towards opportunities we believe will deliver high long-term returns, including the option to further accelerate our share repurchase program. Our U.S. contract drilling business saw activity stabilize as we exited the third quarter, and we expect this stability to continue through the rest of 2025. Recent revenue per day for drilling rigs remains in the low to mid-30s range. Our directional drilling business is performing exceptionally well, benefiting from strong service quality and new technology deliveries as well as further integrated offerings with both our drilling rigs and our drill bits today we are focused on driving further improvement beyond relying simply on a recovery in industry activity we are looking to expand our technology driven commercial models by growing integration across our products and services and through additional performance-based agreements as we also work to lower our costs our drilling team is delivering strong operational performance for our customers by utilizing our tier one apex rigs and our suite of proprietary cortex digital services including adaptive auto driller and predictive models which become platforms for future artificial intelligence to enhance and to enhance the quality of the service we are delivering for all our customers are seeing the benefits of using a patterson uti rig and our suite of digital solutions and complementary services and products. The digital and technology package remains a key factor to delivering differentiated solutions for our customers, and the investments we have made have helped margins hold above what our drilling business has achieved in previous periods of activity moderation. Our completion services segment demonstrated strong relative performance in Q3, with activity holding steady compared to the second quarter. Our commercial team did an outstanding job managing the frac calendar and aligning us with high quality customer base while our operations team executed at an exceptionally high level pricing for horsepower hour in our frac business was steady compared to the second quarter with lower sequential revenue mostly a function of less sales of low margin sand and chemical products we also started to see benefit of cost reductions in the first half of the year the completions market remains competitive but our operational quality is proving to be a major differentiator we recently set a record for continuous pumping for one of our customers in the northeast where we safely pump 348 hours straight on a single fleet this record highlights the capabilities of our digital performance center in houston to implement new operating techniques with the support of our local field teams our new proprietary eos completions platform is advancing our technology edge through three primary products. Vertex Automation Controls, Fleet Stream, and IntelliSTEM. This platform will allow us to further implement artificial intelligence and machine learning into the completions process. After successful deployment in the third quarter, we continue to deploy our Vertex Automation Controls across all company fleets, with projection for full deployment by year end. This will allow us to implement closed-loop automation for all pump types to improve our operating efficiency and asset management while delivering optimized completion designs for our customers based on real-time surface measurements fleetstream will provide data visualization and analytics a platform to acquire and analyze reservoir measurements and streamline data workflows for our customers and provide a new revenue stream for our completion services segment finally in combination with work done our drilling rigs and through modern machine learning Our IntelliSTEM Reservoir technologies leverage artificial intelligence to provide real-time reservoir insights to better understand rock properties and optimize completion designs to maximize well performance. We see multiple ways to monetize our digital investments. We are already seeing the investments lower operating and capital costs through higher asset turns. Additionally, on the revenue side, we've already signed two customers to commercial deals for 2026 specifically for our eos platform and we think there's significant revenue opportunity as well as a path to create closer and more integrated long-term relationships with our customers our emerald fleet of 100 natural gas powered equipment remains in high demand and we continue to strategically invest in new technologies that are driving accretive returns for the business we've recently taken delivery of our first commercial direct drive pumps which will allow to deliver 100% natural gas-powered solutions for our customers for significantly less capital deployed relative to electric frack fleets. The direct-drive pumps are scheduled to begin long-term dedicated work in the fourth quarter. We think recent advancements made in high-horsepower direct-drive natural gas engines have helped make this the most capital and cost-efficient solution for our business. Our drilling products business had another good quarter in North America where our U.S. revenue per U.S. industry rig set another company record. Since we acquired Ulterra in 2023, we've seen a roughly 40% increase in U.S. revenue per U.S. industry rig, with a more than 10% increase in market share for our drill bit products on Patterson UTI rigs. In Canada, we saw a strong recovery in revenue coming out of spring breakup, even as total industry activity was slightly below expectations. International revenue declined, mainly in Saudi Arabia, as drilling activity in that country slowed. Outside of Saudi Arabia, revenue was strong internationally, and we expect international revenue to increase in the fourth quarter. On the margin side, the quarter did see higher than normal bit repair expenses in July, which resulted in lower margins for the quarter, although margins recovered towards historical levels later in the quarter. Our fully integrated P10 Digital Performance Center, located in Houston, is the backbone for the entire company. The digital center has been critical as we execute and optimize drilling and completion designs for our customers. The information that we can provide both our team and our customers has improved the efficiency of our operations and brought us closer to our customers as we strive to provide differentiated service. While U.S. shale activity is moderated this year, we have not studied the skills. We are focused on finding ways to make our business more competitive, even as industry activity appears likely to remain in a tight range for the foreseeable future. We're using this relative stability to prepare for what we think the industry will look like over the next several years, commit capital to the right areas, and execute our own strategy to maximize shareholder value. We will continue to target profitable technology investments that we believe will drive strong cash returns for our shareholders, and we intend to be a leader across all of our business as shale evolves. I'll now turn it over to Andy Smith, who will review the financial results for the quarter.

Thanks, Andy. Total reported revenue for the quarter was $1,176,000,000. We reported a net loss attributable to common shareholders of $36 million, or $0.10 per share, and an adjusted net loss of $21 million. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter totaled $219 million. Other operating expenses for the quarter totaled $23 million, of which $20 million resulted from the accrual of expenses associated with personal injury-related claims, for incidents that occurred several years ago, partially offset by a favorable contract dispute resolution. Our weighted average share count was 383 million shares during Q3, and we exited the quarter with 379 million shares outstanding. During the first three quarters of the year, we generated $146 million of adjusted free cash flow. As expected, during the third quarter, we saw working capital benefits, and we expect working capital will be a tailwind again in the fourth quarter. During the third quarter, we returned $64 million to shareholders, including an $0.08 per share dividend and $34 million for share repurchases. Over the two full years since we closed the next-tier merger and Delterra acquisition through September 30, 2025, we have repurchased 44 million Patterson shares in the open market. We have reduced our share count by 9% since that time. This is in addition to reducing net debt, including leases, by nearly $200 million and paying a dividend that is currently an annualized 5% of our share price. In our drilling services segment, third quarter revenue was $380 million and adjusted gross profit totaled $134 million. dollars. In U.S. contract drilling, we totaled 8,737 operating days for an average operating rig count of 95 rigs. Geographically, compared to the second quarter, activity was flat outside the Permian Basin, with Permian activity responsible for the sequential decline in our rig count. For the fourth quarter in drilling services, we expect an average rig count to be similar to the third quarter. We expect adjusted gross profit will be down approximately 5% from the third quarter. Revenue for the third quarter in our completion services segment totaled $705 million with an adjusted gross profit of $111 million. We saw flat activity on a pump hour basis compared to the second quarter with margins benefiting from improved operating efficiency and some cost reductions that were initiated in the segment during the first half of 2025. We saw improved efficiency as several of our larger fleets that saw gaps in the second quarter had more consistent schedules. Additionally, our Power Solutions natural gas fueling business saw an improvement as natural gas demand in the Permian continues to grow as customers look to take advantage of weak regional natural gas prices by using more of the commodity as fuel. Overall, completion's revenue was lower on a decline in sales of low-margin sand and chemicals products. For the fourth quarter, we expect completion services adjusted gross profit to be approximately $85 million, with less seasonality compared to the fourth quarter last year. Third quarter drilling products revenue totaled $86 million, with an adjusted gross profit of $36 million. Performance was strong in our U.S. and Canadian businesses, while international revenue was impacted by lower activity in Saudi Arabia, which is our largest international market. Margins were affected by higher bit repair expense in July, although they returned closer to historical levels by the end of the quarter. For the fourth quarter we expect drilling products adjusted gross profit to improve slightly with relatively steady results in the U.S. and Canada and higher revenue and gross profit internationally. As a reminder roughly 70 percent of the revenue in our drilling product segment is generated in the U.S. with around 10 percent in Canada and 20 percent international. Other revenue totaled five million dollars for the quarter with $2 million in adjusted gross profit. We expect other adjusted gross profit in the fourth quarter to be steady compared to the third quarter. Reported selling general and administrative expenses in the third quarter were $62 million. For Q4, we expect SG&A expenses will be relatively steady sequentially. On a consolidated basis for the third quarter, depreciation, depletion, amortization, and impairment expense totaled $226 million, and for the fourth quarter, we expect it will be approximately $225 million. During Q3, total CAPEX was $144 million, including $47 million in drilling services, $81 million in completion services, $13 million in drilling products, and $3 million in other and corporate. For the fourth quarter, we expect total CAPEX of approximately $140 million. Our full 2025 CAPEX is now expected to be less than $1,600 million, even before considering the benefit of $33 million in asset sales we have realized through the third quarter. Our updated capital expenditure budget is lower than previously expected. We closed Q3 with $187 million in cash on hand, and we did not have anything drawn on our $500 million revolving credit facility, and we did not have any senior note maturities until 2028. Through the first three quarters of 2025, we have returned $162 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Free cash flow is likely to remain strong in the fourth quarter, which is expected to be our highest free cash flow quarter of the year. Our board has approved an eight cent per share dividend for the fourth quarter of 2025, payable on December 15th to holders of record as of December 1st. I'll now turn it back to Andy Hendricks for closing remarks.

Thanks, Andy. I want to close the call with some comments on our company and the industry. I'm very pleased with our team's execution in the third quarter, where we are outperforming our competitors in many areas of our market. As well, we continue to make the necessary cost reductions to align the company with the projected levels of activity and maximize long-term free cash flow. This past year has been one of the most unique years since shale emerged as a major source of oil and gas over a decade ago in many ways the u.s shale oil field services industry has outperformed each previous cycle our margins are holding up far better than what is typical in periods of activity moderation equipment bifurcation and capital availability is leading to disciplined behavior across our industry and customer consolidation is leading to a more constructive environment at the high end of the oil field services market relative to the overall market. Our third quarter results reflected a stabilization of industry activity as we exited the period. In absent normal seasonality and our completions business, we expect activity to remain relatively steady through year end. We fully recognize and acknowledge that the macro outlook is a driving force in investment decisions. Lower commodity prices have slowed overall activity in the U.S. for the past couple of years. However, our business has remained resilient and we are focused on investing in technology maximizing our long-term free cash flow and returning cash to shareholders and we think our strategy will create the most value for patterson uti shareholders over the long term there's much to be proud of with the way our teams are operating but even as the outlook is stabilized we are not content to simply wait for a market recovery we intend to stay focused on our plan to maximize the value of our unique commercial model and technology offerings across drilling and completions and we see evidence that customers are becoming increasingly receptive to more integration and performance-based pricing as they too search for ways to improve their own returns we are just at the beginning of realizing the benefits of that journey for the company the goal for our business leaders is clear we need to improve our position in the markets where we operate we are confident that our teams are focused and up to the challenge, and we look forward to improving that out over the next year. As we start to prepare for 2026, what we see right now is another year of strong free cash flow. Our balance sheet is in great shape, our liquidity is strong, and we are operating with an extreme degree of capital flexibility. Our focus on capital allocation should allow us plenty of opportunities to use our free cash flow to maximize the long-term value for our shareholders including through a potential acceleration of our share repurchase program we are pleased with the quality of our operations and we are confident that we can make our business even better with that i'd like to hand the call back to rebecca and open up for q a at this time i would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question press star then the number one on your telephone keypad.

Operator

We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Jayaram with J.P. Morgan.

Aaron Jaram Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Good morning, team. Andy, I wanted to talk a little bit about completion services. You know, one of the narratives we've heard from your peers is pricing trends continue to moderate even at the higher end of the market, yet you highlighted how your trends on a horsepower basis were relatively flat. I was wondering if you could maybe elaborate on what you think is maybe driving that differential performance there.

Listen, I think our teams are just doing a great job out there and executing in the field. Some of the really high-end work that we've done with large simul fracks and trimul fracks you know we're burning significant amounts of natural gas we're delivering that natural gas to location we're maximizing you know displacement of diesel in some cases or on full electric jobs uh or you know full emerald jobs you're providing significant amounts of natural gas and fuel savings and everything that we have that can burn natural gas is out and working. And so we don't feel a lot of pressure to, you know, reduce pricing from where we're at. Now, you know, we, as you know, the industry's discussed, there's been some big tenders over the last few months. Some of those are still in process. But I think overall, you know, the industry is showing a lot of discipline from where we are right now.

Aaron Jaram Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Great, great. And Maybe, Andy, you could talk a little bit about your fleet renewal programs as we think about kind of 2026. You highlighted how you expect CapEx to be down at a corporate-wide level, but talk to us about planned investments and completion services. Sounds like you're pretty excited about the direct drive pumps in that. So how should we think about fleet replacement for P-10 on a go-forward basis?

Yeah, the 100% natural gas direct drive emerald systems that we've just taken delivery of this quarter and just deploying, we're excited about what we believe is a better use of capital, better allocation of capital in trying to provide 100% natural gas services out in the field. And so we're excited to have, you know, a number of those out working this quarter, you know, after shaking that technology down for the last two years. When it comes to 2026, we certainly haven't finalized the budget yet. But what you've seen us do over the last several years is invest at the high end without investing at the low end and just letting the, you know, the lower end of the equipment just move away from attrition. You know, we've reduced the overall horsepower we've had over the last years from 3.3 million at a peak down to 2.8 million just by letting that lower tier equipment go away. And so I think, you know, there's a chance we'll make some similar decisions next year. We haven't finalized that yet, but we're not investing at the low end. And I think that helps keep the market tight. And if we see more demand next year for more of the 100% natural gas equipment, we'll continue to invest because we're getting good returns on that technology.

Aaron Jaram Analyst — J.P. Morgan

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Grubber with Citigroup.

Scott Gruber Analyst — Citigroup

Yes, good morning.

Good morning, Scott.

Scott Gruber Analyst — Citigroup

Morning. So power is a hot topic, and Patterson has expertise in running microgrids for drilling. So, Andy, you know, if we see the data center market pull more megawatts for on-site generation, do you think that opens an opportunity for Patterson then for the power market within the oil field? How are you viewing that opportunity today?

You know, we have significant technical expertise in power. We have our electrical engineering division that can engineer and manufacture microgrids. On any given day right now, we're producing around 500 megawatts of power across drilling and completions. We operate generators, you know, from 1.1 megawatt resips all the way up to 35 megawatt turbines. And so we have a lot of technical expertise. But when we look at, you know, some of the opportunities as you get into the larger power structures that AI and data centers are demanding, you know you're at the 200 megawatt plus you know in some they're up to a gigawatt of power that's not a mobile power solution that starts to look more like an epc contract where you've had a lot of big construction going on so you know we we're focused on what we can do and where we can bring value we've discussed with some of our customers and still do from time to time to provide power for them in their own operations and production. And if we think that there's a reasonable market there, then we'll provide power for them. But we're very focused on delivering free cash flow. We don't want to spend a lot of capital on things that we don't think are going to bring immediate value for shareholders right now.

Scott Gruber Analyst — Citigroup

So the oil field production power opportunity for Patterson is still a kind of TBD. Is that the right way to frame it?

I would say we have discussions with our customers. These are customers that we're close to. But, you know, there's a number of companies that provide power for them already and have historically. So it's still a competitive market. If we think we can get a good return doing it, we'll do it.

Scott Gruber Analyst — Citigroup

Okay. And then I wanted to ask a question on the completion side. I know you guys have made some real strides in developing FRAC optimization software. Can you provide some more color on this, you know, expanding opportunity? Sorry, expanding offering. You know, how many fleets are deploying optimization software today? And is this contributing, you know, to the improvement in segment performance despite the macro headwinds?

Yeah, so we're excited about what the team has done in terms of digital on the completion side. So they rolled out the EOS platform, and that's an evolving platform that constitutes a large number of products, both at the digital center here in Houston, but also in the field. And one of those products is vertex automation for the frack operations. And so we've already rolled that out in the field, and we continue to deploy. And it's going to be on all fleets by the end of this year. And when we say all fleets, you know, our automation can work on our Emerald electric, Emerald 100% natural gas direct drive. It can work on our Tier 4 dual fuel. So we're not limited as to where we deploy the automation. And as we've discussed with a lot of you, you know, sometimes we're running blended operations with Tier 4 dual fuel and electric or 100% natural gas direct drive combined. And so, you know, our automation control software allows us to be able to work across all those platforms and combined situations as well. We have a number of customers that that's what they want to do. And so we don't have any limitations on the type of equipment we're deploying automation on and really excited about what that's going to do for us. You know, it's certainly a product we'll be able to charge for. You know, as I mentioned earlier, there's a number of products coming out of the platform that we believe we can monetize. And this is one of them. You know, it's going to, you know, probably provide some improvements to overall reliability of equipment. It's going to help us differentiate on how we deploy fracks in the well and excited about what we can do with it.

Scott Gruber Analyst — Citigroup

I appreciate the color, Andy.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Saurab Pant with Bank of America.

Saurabh Pant Analyst — Bank of America

Hi. Good morning, Andy and Andy.

Operator

Good morning. How are you, Sharab?

Saurabh Pant Analyst — Bank of America

Good, good, good, Andy. Andy, maybe I'll start with a bigger question. You talked about macro uncertainty. Things seem to have stabilized a little bit. We'll see where they go from here. But as you talk to the customers, Andy, right, be it on the drilling side and the completion side, how does that uncertainty manifest? I'm just thinking on the drilling side, do they want shorter-term contracts to give them more flexibility on the completion side, maybe just more frequent pricing reopeners as an example, right? How are these discussions going, just given the uncertainty in the environment?

So, yeah, as we mentioned, activity has stabilized where we're at right now. You know, the rig count for us has come down this year, but the pricing has held up pretty well. You know, there is some pressure. It's a competitive market, but we're still in, you know, the low 30s on average. And so if you compare that to what has happened in previous cycles of moderation, we're certainly in a better position today than we have been in the past as an industry. The industry is showing good discipline overall. In terms of what our customers are saying, you know, our customers are trying to keep their production up. And, you know, the wells that we're drilling, while they're becoming more efficient, are also becoming more challenging, both on the drilling side and the production side. We're drilling deeper wells. We're drilling longer laterals. And our customers are dealing, you know, in the Permian with wells that, you know, have a higher gas ratio. And so, you know, all those things combined to where, you know, our customers are trying to, you know, keep up the production. And even though we're in a softer, you know, commodity environment right now, they're trying to keep their production up for their shareholders.

Saurabh Pant Analyst — Bank of America

And, you know, I think that you're going to see continuing intensity for what we do grow. uh grow and we're getting requests to add more technology to be able to meet the needs right right no that makes sense that makes sense and i agree by the way with your views on the on the on the activity levels they seem like they're right at or below maintenance level right so if you want to keep up your production you're going to keep up your activities uh okay makes sense uh and then a quick follow-up maybe andy andy smith for you on the on the on the 2026 shareholder returns i don't know you'll give the framework over time right but But at this stage, how should we think about share repurchases? It's good to see you set that up a little bit this quarter versus last quarter, but just maybe refresh us on the framework as you think about 2026.

I mean, look, it's a little early to be talking about 2026 and what our plans are. We're just on the beginning of our budget cycle. And as we go through that, we'll finalize and, you know, we'll get more color around that going forward. You know, again, we've kind of given you the backdrop of the market. we're very focused internally, again, on our performance and making sure that we can be as efficient as we can be, and that's really where our focus is today, and we haven't really, you know, focused yet on kind of what our buyback program might look like next year.

Saurabh Pant Analyst — Bank of America

Okay, so we'll stay tuned for that, Andy. Okay, got it. Andy, thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ate Modak with Golden Sacks.

Ate Modak Analyst — Goldman Sachs

Okay, good morning, guys. Yes. Andy, you talked about the production impact of the activity changes, but I'm wondering if you've seen anything in the cycle times or efficiencies across the value chain that could potentially impact the response expectation you laid out.

Well, I think that, you know, what we're seeing where activity is right now, you know, it has the potential to, you know, negatively impact U.S. production a little bit. And, you know, just voicing that, you know, oil were to stay in the upper 50s for a little while, that'd probably bring U.S. production down further. And, you know, if you're going to bring U.S. production down further next year, well, the next reaction is you're going to have a commodity price reaction. I think there'd be nervousness in the market. So I think it'd be self-adjusting and self-correcting. So when I think about the long term, I think we're in really good shape from a fundamental standpoint. We may have some, you know, changes in commodity prices over the near term. That may affect some activity levels. But over the long term, I think the fundamentals are still good. You know, we're still seeing long term demand for oil growth over a multi-year period. And the U.S. has to be part of that production as well, has to be part of that equation. You know, the discussion for OPEC Plus to bring on physical barrels, they haven't really brought as much in terms of physical barrels as has been discussed. And I think, you know, that's baked into what we're seeing too. So I think there's still a balance that we have right now between supply demand so and we see that with some work some of the decisions that our customers are making too and like i mentioned before you know we have customers that are trying to maintain production for their shareholders but also balance you know capital spending in a little bit lower commodity environment but we're staying relatively steady in our activity levels as a result of that you know we have customers that are wanting to deploy more technology they're willing to pay us for it and to help them with their efficiencies in how they drill wells.

Ate Modak Analyst — Goldman Sachs

Got it. So for 26, when you are guiding to steady activity levels, but also highlighting that gas could drive some, should we think about that as gas potentially driving upside to that steady expectation or is that offsetting some softness in oil?

I think there's upside in gas activity next year. I don't think it's right away in the first quarter. I think that as we see more physical demand from LNG next year, that we've already been doing a lot of frack work in areas like the Haynesville, and there are wells that have gas behind the valves right now and ready to go. And so I think they're going to address the immediate physical needs in early 26, but eventually it's going to drive activity later in the year, and I think that's upside for us, even if oil is holding steady.

Ate Modak Analyst — Goldman Sachs

Carter, I appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Gingaro with Stifle.

Stephen Gingaro Analyst — Stifel

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Two questions for me. Maybe I'll start with when we think about sort of RFP season and thinking about what EMPs may or may not do next year, how are you guys thinking about pricing in the completion market next year? And I'm just sort of thinking about what margins may look like on a year-over-year basis. Is there any color you can provide around that?

I think that what you'll see is that most of us have already gone through a lot of the tenders that we're having to go through right now. And so, you know, what we're saying, you know, for projections in the fourth quarter have kind of already locked in some of that pricing. And there could be a little bit of movement in next year. But as I said, you know, everything that we have that can burn natural gas today is sold out. And there's still demand for equipment that can burn natural gas because our customers are getting a good fuel savings out of that. So, you know, I don't see pricing as a huge headwind. Are things still competitive? Sure. You know, and if there's any white space in the calendar, which we all know happens from time to time, and we have to fill some dedicated work with some short-term spot work, you know, maybe we take a little bit lower price to do that in the midland basin or something like that but overall um you know i don't see like a huge headwind on the pricing because i think that the work is relatively steady outside of uh you know great thank you and the other question just sort of ties into the capital allocation strategy how do you think about you know you obviously have a view on the market things seem to be stabilizing but how do you think about capital

Stephen Gingaro Analyst — Stifel

returns versus balance sheet strength, and what sort of signs do you look for to give you confidence in accelerating or continuing to return capital in a market that has kind of disappointed us for six or seven straight quarters?

Yeah, Stephen, so this is Andy Smith. So, you know, as we look at it, you know, again, our making sure that we have the equipment in both in all three of our major lines of business that is top of the market is probably the most important thing that we think about when we're thinking about capital. And then it really becomes, you know, what is the cadence of adding that equipment? What is the cadence of making sure that we're right sized for the opportunity set that's out there? You know, what are we looking at beyond that in terms of, you know, our balance sheet leverage? You know, I don't think that we have any issues right now with leverage, to be honest. I'm very comfortable with where we are. And so that hasn't been as much of a focus. But then we look at the return to shareholders and whether or not we want to overstep kind of our 50 percent commitment to our shareholder base. So that's kind of the order of operations. We will continue to high-grade our fleet. I mean, look, there are technology changes in all of our businesses over time. They won't be super lumpy, I don't think. I think they'll be pretty, you know, I think they'll be sort of, you know, pretty consistent over time, but we will continue to make sure that we're, you know, providing the best equipment and the best services out there because, you know, again, we've had a lot of questions about pricing on this call, and pricing is going to follow performance, and, you know, we started the call today with a point that we're focusing on the things that we can focus on. And really that's performance. And if we perform well in the field, and we did very well, we have this quarter and we have for the past several quarters, and I think we will continue to, then pricing won't be quite the issue that it is if we were just thinking about this as a commoditized, you know, equipment business. So, you know, I really think that, you know, we don't have concerns around our balance sheet, if that's a part of your question. I'm not concerned with where the leverage is from a capital allocation standpoint. And I think within our free cash flow, we have lots of opportunity to make sure that we're still providing the best services and the best equipment to our customers that we can.

You know, we've committed to give back 50 percent of our free cash flow to shareholders, and we're on track right now to where it's almost 60 percent for the year. And when we look at these capital allocation decisions, as Andy mentioned, you know, we have opportunities for new technology, and we'll look at each of those on a project-by-project basis, and in some cases, it makes more sense for us to invest in these new technologies and drilling and completions versus buying back the shares. But we're certainly committed to at least 50 percent to shareholders, and we're running ahead of that right now.

Stephen Gingaro Analyst — Stifel

No, thank you for all the color. That's very helpful.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Derek Tadhaver with Piper Sandler.

Derek Tadhaver Analyst — Piper Sandler

Hey, good morning, Andy. I just wanted to go back to Scott's question. I fully appreciate your views and discipline around power and what you can bring to the table currently. But just maybe can we have an EcoCell update? I know typically that's replacing a diesel generator on the rig with a battery. But just given the outlook for this type of technology, Are there potential opportunities outside of oil and gas for EcoCell and within your subsidiary of Current Power?

Hey, thanks. Good morning, Derek. So I think there could be, and we've had some of those discussions. I think for us, though, you know, the way EcoCell is packaged, it's designed for hazardous environment operations and drilling. It can fit in a production environment. You know, you don't need all those qualifications just to put it next to a data center or an industrial application. You know, we're certainly open, and our teams continue to explore those possibilities. Again, you know, when you get into that space of EPC construction and, you know, you're over 200 megawatts and approaching a gigawatt of power, you're competing with a lot of different companies out there. And sometimes, you know, when it's an EPC project like that that's big, you know, the winner is essentially the lowest bidder, and that doesn't necessarily bring value for us. and so we're going to focus on things that we think can produce strong free cash flow you know okay very helpful it's designed for as well as a variable load because you know a drilling rig surges as you engage the draw works or you engage the pumps in in ways that uh you know industrial applications don't see and so we've written custom software to manage that so you know it's it's just a little bit of a different configuration and setup versus what you do for it got got no that's

Derek Tadhaver Analyst — Piper Sandler

very helpful um wanted to ask a question around drilling so you talked about permian being a soft spot here but obviously pockets of strength specifically in the gas basin so just just thinking about the rig count it's up a little bit from where you are you're going to be steady we think about the upside to rate count next year whether that's gas or even the permian recovering how should we think about the the required opex or capex invested back into these rigs that have been sideline and just thinking about what that could mean for you know the future margin expansion once we roll through all this contractor and all this pricing and then year-round actually i'm going to reinvest back into these rigs that have been sidelined for quite some time now just maybe

some updated thoughts how we should think about that with your recount today yeah and we haven't done any of that math recently but i can tell you historically you know when we've reactivated rig it's been you know several million dollars to get a rig reactivated from a capital standpoint and so you know we would take that into account in any agreement that we're working out but the other is that uh you know as we have some of these discussions with emps for what they're going to need over the next couple years they're also wanting more technology on the rig more capacity on the rig longer laterals you know deeper Hainesville gas, things like that. And so that's going to drive some larger conversations, but it's also going to drive larger day rates. And so, you know, we will look at them on a project by project basis, like we always do when we restart a rig. And if we're adding more technology than we normally would, or we're doing structural upgrades, then, you know, we'll get paid for that.

Derek Tadhaver Analyst — Piper Sandler

Got it. Very helpful, Andy. Thank you. I'll turn it back.

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from line of Keith Mackey with RBC.

Keith Mackey Analyst — RBC

Hi, good morning. Just wanted to start out first on the drilling services guide for Q4. I talk about a 5% decline in adjusted gross profit though on steady activity levels. So can you maybe just give us a little bit more color in terms of the drivers of that 5% decline?

Is it more seasonal or is there a continued kind of lowering in average pricing on on the rigs or or something like that you know there's a little bit of decline in the pricing in general you know it's relatively steady in terms of activity from where we are today but we have seen you know a decline in the overall industry rig count our rig counts since the beginning of the year so a little bit of a softening in the market that we're dealing with but my expectation is going forward outside of you know some seasonal things that we have in q1 it'd be relatively got it okay thanks for that and and Andy just

Keith Mackey Analyst — RBC

wanted to follow up on the last question about the rig technology and the incremental capacity that E&Ps are looking for. Can you give us a few examples of the types of things that your customers are asking you for as they look to drill longer wells in various areas across the US?

Yeah, we could talk about a few of those points. So, you know, first, the easy one is structural. So as we drill deeper wells in the Western Hainesville with the laterals that they're drilling, the casing loads are getting bigger. So the structural capacity is moving up from, say, what we've had over the last decade, which has been a 750,000-pound rig in general for the industry, up to a million pounds. And so we're seeing those requests for the structural upgrades. But we have EMPs that are wanting that as well for the Delaware, where we're drilling deeper and longer laterals, and they're using more drill pipe, and they want to stay efficient, not have to lay down the drill pipe. So they want that structural capacity to be able to rack back more pipe just for those efficiencies in the Delaware. So it's a combination of the two for those different plays, but it's a similar rig style and similar engineering that we have to do. The other piece is automation. I'm really excited about what's happening in the areas of automation and what our teams are doing with artificial intelligence. I'll just let everybody know we had an update with the board this quarter on all the different artificial intelligence projects that we're doing in the company. And we've let those grow up from our engineering teams and drilling and completion and excited about the way they're looking at things. And when we say artificial intelligence, for us, it's not necessarily, you know, your traditional large language model that everybody uses on a daily basis. We do a lot with artificial intelligence and machine learning. And we feed data into our systems from our data science teams to allow our models to learn how wells have been drilled so that we can take that board into the field and deploy those automation and machine learning models onto the equipment, whether at a higher level with more efficiency.

Keith Mackey Analyst — RBC

Got it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Rallison with Raymond James.

Jim Rallison Analyst — Raymond James

Hey, good morning, everyone. Andy, you've been through a lot of cycles, and I think you've talked about a little bit in this call. This cycle has definitely been a bit different than typical cycles. And in that, I'm kind of curious, as you think through 26, 27, You know, historically, we've come down in a pretty violent manner, and when U.S. land bounces, it kind of comes from both drilling and frack, and you ultimately get pricing leverage again after you've had it going the wrong way for you. And this cycle's kind of played out differently in that pricing has held up better. There's a lot of technology you've kind of discussed. And I'm just curious, as you think through, you know, once we hit the bottom and the gas rig count starts to go up and oil rig count eventually starts to recover to replace production, how do you think about how this cycle unfolds? Because I'm assuming BRAC probably has a better chance of getting pricing sooner just because – but then you've got the technology kind of benefits coming on both sides. So, you know, maybe lay out how you, in your world, how you think this plays out as we get to the other side of this kind of dip.

Hey, thanks, Jim. And thanks for reminding me that I've seen a lot of cycles. Appreciate that this morning. Yeah, you know, this one has been an interesting one where it's really been about two and a half years of activity coming down across drilling and completions for various commodity reasons. And so, you know, we've had to, you know, look and say, okay, what's happening next? How do we adjust the company and the structure for where we are, where we think it's going? And we continue to do that. So even though we're saying, you know, that we think activity is relatively steady from here, you know, we continue to look at the structure of the company and make sure we're right-sized for where we are and where we're going. You know, with it coming down in the pattern that it has this time, you know, I think there's a chance that the reverse looks similar. But, you know, there could be a little bit quicker inflection on the gas side. But either way, we see upside from where we are, whether it's continuing to adjust our company for where we are in the market or upside from gas activity later in 26 and 27. We still see upside. So we think we're in a great position. We've got strong balance sheet, lots of flexibility with the cash and continue to deploy technology and get paid for it. And so, you know, even though it's, you know, we're in this, what do you want to call it, a softening market or moderating market or however you want to describe it over the last period, you know, we're still upbeat about where we are and where the company is.

Jim Rallison Analyst — Raymond James

Got it. That's helpful context. And then maybe lastly, just on the kind of digital suite that you laid out, you know, in the completion side that you've already started putting on, and I think you mentioned every fleet will have it by the end of the year. Or maybe some goalposts around, you know, what is, like, the revenue and profit opportunity in that space if you get, you know, a high rate of customer adoption? Just to, you know, when you think about how that maybe offsets the general activity trend that we've seen as we go forward.

Well, I think it's still early days, and on the completion side, we're still, you know, signing some contracts to do that and providing those digital services for next year. You know, on the drilling side, it's millions of dollars a year in revenue that we're generating off the digital. We rolled out our Cortex operating system years ago, and we continue to add applications to that on the drilling side. And now those applications, you know, through our data science team are incorporating artificial intelligence that will be layered into those as well. And so that's just going to enhance the productivity of those applications. So, you know, I think it's still early days in the technology journey. We've built out the infrastructure. For those of you that have come to see our P10 Digital Performance Center, you know we've made the investment. We've got the platform. And so now we've got teams that are building on top of that, and we're talking software. This is not heavy capital in terms of an investment.

Don Chris Analyst — Johnson Rice

Got it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dan Cutts with Morgan Stanley.

Dan Cutts Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Hey, thanks.

Operator

Good morning.

Dan Cutts Analyst — Morgan Stanley

So, I just wanted to ask on the kind of nameplate Emerald fleet size. I think last quarter you guys said that you had over 225,000 horsepower of capacity, and then you flagged the latest direct drive delivery at the end of this last quarter.

Could you just update us on what kind of the Emerald fleet size is after that latest delivery? um it's you know it's around that 250 000 level right now we've still got some more of those emerald 100 natural gas that are being delivered this quarter we're deploying them this quarter and still have some more coming in but it's still around that you know you know in the overall horsepower which i think is even more interesting like i mentioned earlier you know we had had as much as 3.3 million but we brought that down to 2.8 and i think there's others in the market they're doing similar, and that's why I'm constructive on the market for completions and pressure pumping, just because I think that overall horsepower continues to come down in the market.

Dan Cutts Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Maybe just to close that out, after everything that has been ordered or you're still waiting for delivery, after all that's delivered, maybe by the end of this quarter, what's kind of the capacity of the Emerald fleet at that point?

I'm going to be a little over $250,000, and we'll update you on the next call.

Dan Cutts Analyst — Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. And then maybe you guys have already shared a lot of this, but maybe just to kind of ask directly if you could juxtapose some of the differences between the Emerald electric pleats and the direct drive pleats Just on a relative basis, the build cost and maintenance costs, kind of fuel and operating costs, operating efficiencies, and maybe a lot of that remains to be seen as you guys, you know, deploy the direct drive fleet and actually, you know, get the real time data. But, yeah, I'm wondering if you could just, at this point, how are you thinking the two types of technology would perform and, you know, the relative kind of build and maintenance cost between the two things?

Sure. Let me just explain it this way, and I'll give you some high-level round numbers on it. So, you know, our Emerald Electric is performing really well in the field. We have customers that want to use that. We actually grew the amount of horsepower in our Emerald Electric this year because we had customers that wanted to move from standard frack size to simul frack and trimul frack with the electric. When we do that, you also have to increase the power supply at the well site. And so we've gone from, you know, for instance, on one job, a single 35 megawatt turbine up to a 35 megawatt turbine and combine it with some smaller turbines as well to generate enough power to run, you know, larger frack spreads than what we would normally do with a 35 megawatt turbine. The turbines are expensive. You know, 35 megawatt turbine in general, you're talking about capital costs deployed in the field, you know, in the 40 to 45 million dollar range. And then when we put the smaller turbines out there as well, you're in the $15 to $20 million range per turbine. So you're talking about a lot of capital costs tied up just on power. And you're also competing in the market for that power with, you know, everything that everybody else has talked about and where power is going to go over the next couple of years. So it's not just, you know, capital costs, but you're competing for those types of power-generating devices as well. When we look at the 100% natural gas drive engines, and these are high horsepower engines, 3,600 horsepower, so it's a new technology that's being deployed versus other technology. We're excited about this. This is a great supplier, well-known manufacturer of the engines and the transmissions, and then we spec out the rest of it, including our own control systems on it. And we think that with our control systems on it, we can help manage it. When you look at the overall capital cost versus an electric with the turbines, I don't have the actual numbers and differentials in front of me, but it's certainly lower. Our teams have done all the work on that. When you look at the OpEx, you know, the OpEx for a natural gas direct drive engine is going to be higher than a diesel, but the overall OpEx for 100% natural gas direct drive engine in, you know, in our projections is lower than trying to maintain both electric pumps and the turbine generators at the same time. And so, you know, overall, when we look at the amount of capital deployed, you know, you're talking about, you know, 25 percent, you know, maybe 30 percent reduction in some cases to get the same amount of horsepower. Does that help?

Dan Cutts Analyst — Morgan Stanley

That was very helpful. Thank you very much, Andy. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sean Mitchell with Daniel Energy Partners.

Sean Mitchell Analyst — Daniel Energy Partners

Good morning, guys. Can you hear me okay?

Operator

Yeah, hey, Sean. Good morning, Sean.

Sean Mitchell Analyst — Daniel Energy Partners

Hey, thanks for taking the question, but Keith kind of hit it on the drilling guide, but I want to turn to the completion guide a little bit, trying to better understand the typical seasonal slowdown in budget shortfalls and hoping you guys might be able to offer some color on this. At this point, do you have any fleets which have been idled where you know that fleet will go back to its prior customer in the first half of 26 and maybe any way you can frame the 9-2, that might be helpful?

We haven't idled any fleets per se, and the best way I can describe that is quarter on quarter, we're still working the same amount of horsepower, pumping similar horsepower hours in the field, but we've grown some fleets to do more simul frack and trimul frack. So there's been, you know, a shuffling of horsepower around to different places. You know, the fleet count at the end of the day is really kind of hard to judge. It's not such a great metric because of the fluctuation in fleet size as we do more simulfrack and trimulfrack.

And I think you'll see, you know, companies like ourselves where the actual, you know, horsepower per fleet grows a bit because we're doing, you know, higher intensity frat. but we you know to sum it up we were working the same amount of horsepower pumping similar horsepower hours quarter on quarter you know we didn't really yeah sean i'll just add to that you know when we when we look out at the fourth quarter and try to predict seasonality i mean we're we're given a little bit of um you know we take an assumption around kind of what we think we'll see in terms of some some downtime around the holidays maybe potentially some downtime around

Sean Mitchell Analyst — Daniel Energy Partners

some weather and sometimes it's better sometimes it's worse and so it's you know you just as you go through the quarter you just have to kind of you know kind of play it as it comes yeah maybe one more just as you talk about a lot of technology uh some exciting stuff in the industry today how much of the improvement initiatives that you're seeing are self-directed versus kind of maybe being requested or suggested by you?

I think, you know, it's kind of even balanced. We've got customers that request certain things, but we've also got a lot of smart engineers in the company that say, hey, you know, if I deploy machine learning in this way, then we can do this, and it's going to drill a longer lateral or, you know, manage how we pump, you know. And so, you know, I think it's a mix of both.

Sean Mitchell Analyst — Daniel Energy Partners

Got it. Thanks for taking questions.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Don Christ with Johnson Rice.

Don Chris Analyst — Johnson Rice

Morning, guys.

Operator

Good morning, Don.

Don Chris Analyst — Johnson Rice

Andy, I wanted to first applaud you for sticking to your guns and what y'all do as a core competency and not chasing the latest fad as some of your competitors, including very large competitors, are doing. But in that vein, I kind of wanted to ask a question about M&A. You know, we've seen a lot through the E&P side and investors keep on asking all the analysts, you know, is there going to be another wave of M&A on the oil field service side? And a lot of us don't really see it. But do you see some of your larger competitors that are chasing the power side, actually freeing up some of that equipment that could be attractive to y'all in the future to where you could, you know, number one, stick to your core competencies, but, you know, go into another kind of M&A transaction that would be accretive in the future, possibly overseas?

Several different questions in that one, but let me try to take that. First off, I'll say we don't have to do any of it at where the company is today, the profile that we have, the deployment that we're doing. So there's nothing that we need to do. We've got great segments that are doing great work and strong competitors and leading in a lot of areas. So happy with what we have. You know, in terms of some consolidation, I think that, you know, let's say on the completion side, there's probably still some room for some smaller companies to get. When you look at drilling, it's already, you know, a disciplined market. And, you know, we've looked at a lot of things. We've tried to see if there's anything out there similar to an Elterra. We really like the, you know, the profile of that company where it's relatively low CapEx compared to, you know, our bigger businesses that are heavier in CapEx. And we like what we've done there, and that team's doing it. But we're happy with what we have. We don't have to do anything.

Yeah, Don, I would just add, as it relates to some of our current competition or industry participants that would be pivoting away from maybe their core businesses, I kind of find that hard to buy today, that there would be a wholesale pivot. And so to the extent they would be selling anything out of their sort of fleet, it's probably not going to be at the level of technology that we'd want to participate in or want to buy. So I think probably the likelihood of that is pretty low.

Don Chris Analyst — Johnson Rice

Would that include some international operations? Like I know Baker has sold something to Cactus recently, and there may be some other opportunities there. Would something to get a stranglehold on the Middle East be kind of attractive to you all?

Well, I mean, I think we'd certainly be interested in listening. I appreciate the color.

Thanks.

Operator

At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Andy Hendricks for closing remarks.

Well, I want to thank everybody who dialed in this morning. It was a really strong third quarter for us. I want to thank all the men and women at Patterson UTI across all of our segments for everything they're doing and all the great results they had in the third quarter, and I just want to say thanks. Appreciate it.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect. Thank you.

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