StandardAero, Inc. Q2 FY2025 Earnings Call
StandardAero, Inc. (SARO)
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Auto-generated speakersGreetings and welcome to the StandardAero Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Rama Bondada, Vice President of Investor Relations. Rama, please proceed.
Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to StandardAero Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. I'm joined today by Russell Ford, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Dan Satterfield, our Chief Financial Officer; and Alex Trapp, our Chief Strategy Officer. Along with today's call, you can find our earnings release as well as the accompanying presentation on our website at ir.standardaero.com. An audio replay of this call will also be made available, which you can access on our website or by phone. The phone number for the audio replay is included in the press release announcing this call. Before we begin, as always, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call include forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. Such risks and uncertainties include the factors set forth in the earnings release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including in the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024. We assume no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Additionally, during today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, free cash flow, net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio and organic revenue growth. A definition and reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release and in the appendix to the earnings slide presentation on our website. Non-GAAP financial measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for GAAP measures. With that out of the way, I'd like to now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Russell Ford. Russ, over to you.
Thank you, Rama, and thanks to everyone for joining our earnings call today. Let's begin on Slide 3. For the second quarter, we again delivered robust results, increasing revenue 13.5% and adjusted EBITDA increased by 20% compared to the prior year period. Our performance was underpinned by robust demand across our key end markets as well as disciplined operational execution within both of our segments, engine services and component repair services. We continue to expand our margins while also advancing our ramp in new growth platforms, which are a near-term headwind to margins. Our diversified portfolio spans more than 40 engine platforms across all major OEMs and end markets including commercial aerospace, business aviation, military and helicopters. This breadth not only provides multiple avenues for growth, but also creates built-in resilience across market cycles. Now looking more closely at our end markets. Our commercial aerospace sales grew 14% year-over-year, driven by CF34, LEAP, CFM56 and our Turboprop platforms. Our backlog of MRO work here remains strong with demand for engine aftermarket services outpacing MRO supply globally. We expect this favorable supply-demand environment to continue for the foreseeable future. Our business aviation sales increased 9% versus Q2 last year. Solid demand for engine platforms that power midsize and super midsized business jets drove strong revenue growth this quarter. Our military sales grew 12% year-over-year due to the contribution from our Aero Turbine acquisition, which closed in August of 2024 as well as from growth on our AE1107 and J85 programs that more than offset some lighter work scopes on other military platforms that we service. Moving on to adjusted EBITDA. Margins continued to expand in Q2, increasing 80 basis points year-over-year to 13.4%. This improvement was driven by strong sales growth, favorable mix, pricing and productivity initiatives within both of our segments. Additionally, our higher-margin component repair services segment delivered a record margin this quarter and continues to represent a greater share of our overall business, consistent with our strategic direction. Turning to Slide 4. As a result of our continuing top line growth, expanding margin performance and robust end market demand in the quarter, we are again increasing our 2025 guidance with a continued outlook for double-digit revenue performance and adjusted EBITDA margin expansion year-over-year in both of our segments. Now relative to our operational and commercial highlights in the second quarter. We remain focused on executing across our strategic priority areas, which we think will drive long-term value for our shareholders. These initiatives include accelerating the ramp-up of our LEAP program, expanding our CFM56 and CF34 capacity and enhancing our capabilities in component repair services. Let me begin by providing more detail on our progress on the LEAP program. In the second quarter, we completed our first LEAP shop visits and began deliveries from our facility in San Antonio. LEAP sales tripled sequentially. And while volumes are still modest, the momentum has been exceptional. We remain in the early stages of this program's ramp with continuing acceleration expected through the second half of 2025. Our technicians and leadership team are focused on completing final industrialization steps this year, delivering our first performance restoration shop visit or PRSV in the second half and continuing to scale. Demand for LEAP MRO services continues to grow with our pipeline and win rates strengthening each quarter. StandardAero's total LEAP bookings now exceed $1.5 billion, up from $1 billion we mentioned at the end of last year, supported by strong wins year-to-date. We continue to expect LEAP revenues to reach $1 billion annually by the end of the decade. Turning to CF34 and CFM56, we continue to capitalize on the organic investments we've made in these platforms. On CF34, we again achieved robust year-over-year growth following the expansion of our GE relationship at the end of 2024. Given our growing market position, we expect the CF34 platform to drive growth well into the next decade. On CFM56, recall that we are one of the only independent MRO businesses in the world that is adding meaningful overhaul capacity. This engine platform currently has the largest installed base in the history of commercial aviation, and we are well positioned to keep gaining share. We continue to make progress on the industrialization of our CFM 56 Dallas-Fort Worth facility and are simultaneously winning sales campaigns to build out our backlog with a diverse top-tier customer base. In the second quarter, we inducted our first PRSV full performance restoration shop visit at the facility. In addition to our PRSV capabilities, we have continued to grow our menu of service offerings for this platform from quick turn events to green time and lease assets and now into engine exchanges while staying consistent with our strategy of offering OEM aligned solutions. These service offerings, which are synergistic across our enterprise, have been a cornerstone of many of our mature program offerings on other platforms, and we're pleased to be able to support the CFM56 in the same way while also maintaining our asset-light structure. Moving on to another area of organic investment. We are approaching the grand opening of our newly expanded business aviation facility in Augusta, Georgia. This expansion, which we announced in April of 2024, adds 60% capacity to this facility and is on track to come online in the third quarter of 2025. This is very timely given that we had a new record in HTF7000 sales in Q2. The expansion in Augusta will increase our HTF7000 capacity and the facility performs the complete suite of MRO work scopes. In addition, the expanded footprint will be capable of performing airframe services on large cabin business jets. We are the exclusive, independent, heavy overhaul provider on the HTF7000, and with this additional capacity, coupled with growing demand, we see this platform as an important element of our continued growth in business aviation. This expansion came about in close collaboration with the Augusta Regional Airport, the Augusta Economic Development Authority and the State of Georgia. It's expected to generate about 100 new jobs for the area. Turning to growth initiatives for our Component Repair Services segment, we continue expanding our portfolio of OEM authorized leap repairs. This is expected to drive increased third-party sales and greater in-sourcing of addressable repairs from our engine services business as we strengthen integration between our two segments. Now pivoting to capital allocation. We think we are exceptionally well positioned to deliver strong returns through a multipronged approach, combining organic investments in platforms where we hold strong market positions, strategic M&A, additional platforms and additional repair capability. With respect to organic investments, you just heard about our expansion initiatives with CFM56, CF34 and HTF7000. There are more opportunities such as these in the near and medium term that will allow us to continue this pattern of disciplined organic investments that we expect will generate a high return on invested capital for our shareholders. On the M&A front, we're staying close to the market. We have a growing pipeline of targets and ample balance sheet capacity. We will remain disciplined and focused on allocating capital to areas where we see strong strategic and synergistic alignment such as Aero Turbine. That now concludes my comments, and I'll ask Dan Satterfield, our CFO, to walk through our financial results and outlook with additional detail. Dan?
Thank you, Russ. I will begin on Slide 5 with some highlights from our second quarter results. For the second quarter ended June 30, 2025, we generated revenue of $1.53 billion as compared to $1.35 billion for the second quarter last year, representing 13.5% growth, of which 11.5% was organic. We saw strong growth at both our engine services and component repair services segments. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $205 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared to $170 million for the prior year period, representing 20% growth, as adjusted EBITDA margins expanded 80 basis points year-on-year, inclusive of our growth platforms, which are dilutive to margins as they ramp. This was driven by continued top line growth and margin expansion in our key MRO programs and continued strong growth and expansion in our higher-margin component repair services segment, including the acquisition of Aero Turbine last year. Net income increased to $68 million for the second quarter of 2021 compared to $5 million for the prior year, driven by increased sales and expanding margins, paired with our reduced interest expense from our debt paydown and subsequent refinancing events. Free cash flow was a $31 million use in the quarter, which was in line with our expectations given our ongoing growth investments. Higher earnings and lower interest from refinancing actions were offset by higher working capital and CapEx, driven by growth for the LEAP, CFM56 and CF34 platforms. I'll dive a little deeper into cash flow on a later slide. Now moving into our two segments, starting with Engine Services on Slide 6. Engine Services revenue increased by $139 million to $1.35 billion in the second quarter, representing 11.5% growth compared to the prior year period. Notable drivers included robust aftermarket activity across key established platforms and accelerating production ramp on growth programs in commercial aerospace as well as strong performance in business aviation. On the commercial side of the segment, we said at the beginning of the year that our four big growth platforms would be LEAP, CFM56, CF34 and turboprops, and those again this quarter drove our top line growth. We also saw continued strength in our mid- and super midsized business jet engine platforms. And as Russ mentioned earlier, our HTF7000 business saw record levels in the quarter. On the military side, a strong rebound in AE1107 work and strength of the J85 engine were partly offset by lower-than-expected work scopes on the military transport side of the business. On the earnings front, Engine Services adjusted EBITDA grew 16% in the second quarter and represented a 50 basis point margin expansion year-on-year to 13.2%. The increase reflects strong performance across our core commercial and business aviation segments, driven by favorable product mix, volume growth and productivity improvements. Once again, margin expansion in CF34 and our turboprop business continued to more than offset the dilutive margins on our growth platforms, namely LEAP and CFM56 Dallas-Fort Worth. On the business aviation side, mix and pricing drove the margin expansion. And in military, the higher volumes in AE1107 paired with continued strong margins in J85 offset the above-mentioned lower work scopes in the military transport business. On Slide 7, Component Repair Services second quarter revenue increased 31% compared to the prior year period to $178 million. Notable drivers included continued growth in our Land & Marine business, the contribution of $27.3 million in revenue from the Aero Turbine acquisition and robust underlying demand across our served platforms. This was somewhat offset by slower timing of inputs from certain commercial customers. As we stated last quarter, we expect the inputs from these customers to rebound in the second half of this year, and we are already seeing early signs of this. In the quarter, Component Repair Services adjusted EBITDA grew 50% year-on-year, which was the result of our revenue growth and over 360 basis points year-on-year margin expansion to 29%. This is a record adjusted EBITDA margin quarter in CRS. This increase reflects strong volume, pricing and favorable mix as well as the impact of the Aero Turbine acquisition. Now moving to Slide 8, I'll discuss our free cash flow for the quarter. Free cash flow for the quarter was a $31 million use. We saw a $108 million build of working capital in Q2. Nearly half of this increase was driven by our growth ramp for the LEAP and CFM56 Dallas-Fort Worth programs. We expect working capital activity to turn to a meaningful tailwind in the second half of 2025 driven by the timing of receivables and as our supply chain activity improves, which we expect to more than offset increased working capital from ramping growth programs. Maintenance CapEx in the quarter was $9 million, which is less than 1% of revenue. Major platform investments in 2Q were $30 million. We paid the remaining $15 million for our CF34 license expansion in the quarter. For LEAP, we spent $7 million, which brings year-to-date investment for that platform to $26 million. For our CFM56 expansion in Dallas-Fort Worth, we spent $8 million, which brings that investment year-to-date to $10 million. We continue to expect $90 million in major platform investments for the full year, of which year-to-date, we have completed $66 million. Our cash taxes in the quarter included our full year estimated 2025 tax payment for the U.S. We continue to expect free cash flow for 2025 to be in the range of $155 million to $175 million. Turning to Slide 9. Our leverage at the end of the quarter improved to 2.99x net debt to EBITDA. This compares to 5.4x at the end of Q2 '24 and 3.14x at the end of fiscal 2024. While we are pleased with where we sit from a leverage perspective, we are also focused on continuing to delever the business through organic earnings and cash flow growth and continue to target long-term net leverage between 2 and 3x. At our current level, we already have ample balance sheet capacity to conduct accretive and strategic M&A. Now to our guidance on Slide 10. We had a strong first half to the year despite continued supply chain issues throughout the aerospace industry and the ever-changing tariff landscape. Irrespective of these issues, both of our segments continue to deliver on both top line growth and adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. This is a reflection of our strong operating culture, our focused workforce, diversified portfolio and strong demand across our end markets. As Russ mentioned earlier, we are increasing our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges from our May earnings call. We now expect revenue in 2025 to be between $5.875 billion and $6.025 billion. This increase in sales expectation is from our Engine Services segment and driven by the CF34 and Turboprop business. This means we now expect sales to grow about 13.5% year-over-year at the midpoint of our guidance or about a 100 basis point increase versus our previous guidance. Adjusted EBITDA is now expected in the range of $790 million and $810 million. This increase is primarily driven by our higher sales guidance and better-than-expected margins in both of our segments and is inclusive of our estimated net tariff impact of $10 million to $15 million. In Engine Services, we now expect about 13.3% adjusted EBITDA margins or a 30 basis point increase from our previous guidance. This is the result of better-than-expected performance in our core engine platforms outstripping the weight of our ramping LEAP and CFM56 programs. The Engine Services segment will see year-on-year margin expansion in 2025 inclusive of these currently margin-dilutive growth programs. For the Component Repair Services segment, we now expect segment adjusted EBITDA margins of about 28.3%, a 130 basis point increase from our previous guidance, a 220 basis point year-on-year expansion. Driving the increase in our expectations are the productivity gains in this segment, along with the contribution from Aero Turbine. For the company as a whole, we now expect an adjusted EBITDA margin of around 13.4%, up from 13.3%. Offsetting some of the segment level gains in the year are higher corporate expenses, primarily due to upgrades to key operational roles to implement supply chain centralization and working capital optimization, as well as some additional public company-related expenses and tariff-related service fees. The increase to our full year 2025 guidance reflects continued strong demand in our core end markets. We had been expecting a low double-digit to mid-teens growth in our commercial aerospace end market this year, but we now expect that to be at the top end of that range in the mid-teens. We continue to estimate high single-digit growth in the business aviation end market and in the military and helicopter end market. With that, I'll turn it back over to Russ to wrap things up.
Thank you, Dan. Now to summarize, StandardAero has delivered a strong first half in 2025 as promised, and we're not done yet. We continue to operate in a difficult supply chain environment and in uncertain macroeconomic times. However, we remain focused on the responsibility that our shareholders place on us. We continue to see a strong demand environment for our business and remain well positioned to take advantage of this by deploying capital in both a disciplined and strategic manner. Additionally, we remain committed and on track to deliver high-quality and predictable results this year and well into the future. That concludes our remarks for the second quarter. And with that, operator, we're now ready to move to the Q&A session.
Our first question is coming from Seth Seifman from JPMorgan.
I wanted to start off just in thinking about the cadence of the year in Engine Services have kind of been thinking about revenues kind of growing sequentially through the year as there was incremental work on LEAP and CFM. Revenues were higher than I had expected in the second quarter. And then when I look at the rest of the year, it looks like the run rate kind of comes down from the second quarter level. Should we be thinking differently about that cadence now?
Not really. I mean we've guided up on revenue on the strength of the ES segment, and we called out, in particular, the CF34 program, Seth. That continues to be a strong driver of growth. The top four drivers of growth remain the same. And the expectations there are in line with our earlier expectations, in particular, LEAP, really, really pleased to see LEAP triple their growth quarter-over-quarter. And Dallas-Fort Worth is also coming online. So we feel good about the second half of the guidance that we've given you there.
Okay. Okay. Great. And then maybe following up a similar topic, which is the margin dilution that resulted from the new programs. I don't know if there's a way to kind of quantify what that was? And maybe talk about how it evolves going forward.
Yes. So the company expanded margins 80 basis points in the quarter. That would have been significantly more, excluding the ramp programs, which shows the underlying growth and margin accretion in our core programs. And I think you can kind of do the math there. It's a lot of the several basis points — of multiple basis points higher than the 80 basis points, and all that's happening within ES. So those — if you look at the — how those programs are developing in total, the losses on those programs, which we add back to adjusted EBITDA that are within cash flow are narrowing significantly. So it's really great to see that. So the same drivers of margin accretion on those programs are what we expected. Higher revenue to absorb the industrialization costs as well as the learning curve. So you're going to see those programs cracking into profitability sometime late this year or early next year. And then, yes, that drag on margins is known and is exactly the way we expected. So it's great to see the 80 basis points, including those strong revenue growth on zero margin platforms.
Next question today is coming from Doug Harned from Bernstein.
On the growth on particularly those three programs, the LEAP, CFM56 and CF34. How should we look at this? Because your — you've got a certain amount of capacity at DFW and in San Antonio that you're looking to fill is — are you seeing the work come in at a faster rate than you had expected? And on CF34, how are you getting that growth there? Is that just faster throughput through the shops.
Thanks, Doug, for the question. It depends on the program that you're talking about. So I'll try and walk through the different dynamics on some of the programs. If you start, first of all, with LEAP, recognizing that this is a brand-new engine, not only for us, but for the world in general. We're very carefully expanding our throughput at San Antonio because at this stage of the program, we want to make sure that precision and process creation takes the front and center stage. It's more important to get the processes rolled in correctly or precisely than it is for speed. The bookings are very robust. That's not the issue. But again, we're going to be building these engines for the next 40 years. We want to make sure that we get the processes tightly controlled as we start to ramp up. CFM56 is a little bit different case because it's an engine that we know well. We've done more than 1,000 of these engines at our facility in Winnipeg. So as we continue to build the pipeline there, what we're doing is we do have a new facility here for CFM56, but we can transport a lot of the process knowledge by using some of our people in Winnipeg to accelerate the industrialization of CFM56, which is why we believe we're going to be able to see pretty strong throughput capacity on full, heavy work scopes in the second half of the year on CFM56. And then CF34 is a different situation because of the maturity of that program. If you look at the number of engines that were put into service for CF34, there was a surge of deliveries of those programs in the 2015 to 2019 time frame. So that means that 10 years in between now and 2029, you're going to see a lot of those engines then coming due for their first major overhauls. And then as you move into the 2030 time frame, the early 2030s, they'll be coming in for second, third overhauls because there really is no replacement engine or alternative for the CF34 and the applications in which it works. So we're kind of at the beginning of an increased flow of CF34 work over the next 4 to 5 years, just based upon the age at which those engines were introduced into service.
Okay. And then as a follow-up, you mentioned the engine exchange approach. Can you describe what you're trying to do with the engine exchange strategy? Does this involve keeping an inventory at all of engines or modules? How are you approaching this?
Yes. Great question, and thanks for asking. We're pretty excited about it. It's — it really underlies our asset-light structure. So no, we're not stocking up a ton of parts. What it really represents is a one-time investment for an exchange engine, which gets swapped out for a returned engine that falls into our MRO process. We overhaul that engine, and we swap it again, and swap it again and swap it again. So it's a pretty light — asset-light investment on an initial CFM56 engine that we then offer to customers. What we really like about the program is the natural synergies that we have within StandardAero. So that exchange engine comes into our shops. And because of our CRS, component repair opportunities and capability, we're able to do that at low cost and at high tack time, high speed. So this agent exchange program can really accelerate as those engines pass through our system. So no, it's not a big investment. It is another menu item that makes our CFM56 capabilities that much more exciting for customers. And as this ball rolls, you're able to compound the investment and the exchange program engines, they will compound over time.
I just wanted to clarify on that last point, if I could, Dan. I think that you're leasing and then subleasing and you're not actually owning those assets. Are you able to do the maintenance of those assets from a controlled perspective? Or are those owned assets and managed by someone else and you're just a party to the lease?
Yes. No, thanks for the follow-up. No, we are buying this initial engine. This is an owned engine by StandardAero that we will then resell back to the customer in exchange for his or her exchange asset. We do have that — the leasing option. It's one of the menu items that we provide. We can connect customers with preferred lessors. But this engine exchange program, our owned assets by StandardAero.
Okay. Should we expect that pool to be a drag on investment of cash flow into next year and the following year, those CFM56 and these programs?
No, as a matter of fact, sorry, I did make that clear. It's a one-time investment in really single-digit millions of dollars to get the ball rolling. And as it is — as we move these engines through the system, we're able to get more and more of them, but it's not a significant drag on working capital. It will be for the first time. It's just a single engine and then the program kind of feeds itself, funds itself. So it's not tens of millions of dollars in a big investment and a big rollout. It is a self-funding engine exchange program that can gain over time.
Yes. Just to be clear, we're talking about top-tier customers that bring us an engine that they may want to trade in because it has an event or a section of the engine that may be approaching an expiration on its maintenance limits. So many times, these engines have been OEM maintained. They don't have PMA parts in them. They're coming off of some type of power by the hour program. they have parts and materials in them that have aerospace grade traceability, but for various reasons, they don't want to spend the money on that engine to provide a full performance restoration to give it another 18,000 to 20,000 cycles. They may only need 4,000 or 5,000 cycles. So they can bring that engine to us, we will purchase another engine. We will rebuild that engine to the specs that they need, swap it out for the engine that they bring us, and then we can take that engine and we have options for that. We can rebuild it or we can reduce it to parts. So we are not building a pool of rotatable engines.
Next question is coming from Myles Walton from Wolfe Research.
Russ, on GE's investor update, they pointed to 30% of LEAP shop that's being done externally by 2030. They had previously pointed to about 40%. Have you seen any change in customer behaviors or the ability of the MRO network to take on more of the load of the external shop visits?
We've seen no change to the pipeline for RFPs or the interest from the airlines. The OEs, Safran, GE, they've got a limited amount of shop capacity to apply to MRO work. They're focused on new production of these engines and will be for a number of years. So they're unlikely to be expanding. What they need is they need the network to expand like us. And so I think that's all goodness. But what it does in effect is that it's — what we are seeing is the airlines are pushing harder to get longer-term contracts put in place sooner than they might have on other engines in the past. Because they know that, that MRO capacity is going to get allocated, and they want to make sure that they've got spots. So that's actually good for us. It's pushing the contracts towards us earlier and gives us more bargaining power.
We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further closing comments.
Okay. Very good. Thanks, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for the earnings call. We also appreciate your continuing support for StandardAero and we look forward to talking to everybody again soon. So with that, we'll end the call. Thank you.
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