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Taseko Mines Ltd Q4 FY2020 Earnings Call

Taseko Mines Ltd (TGB)

Earnings Call FY2020 Q4 Call date: 2020-12-31 Concluded

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Veronica, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Taseko Mines Q4 and Year End Earnings and Production Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. Taseko, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Veronica. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining Taseko's fourth quarter and year-end 2020 conference call. The news release announcing our financial and operational results was issued yesterday after market close and is available on our website, tasekomines.com. With me today in Vancouver is our CEO, Russ Hallbauer; our President, Stuart McDonald; Taseko's Chief Financial Officer, Bryce Hamming; and also, Richard Tremblay, VP of Operations. As usual, before we get into opening remarks from management, I would like to remind our listeners that our comments and answers to your questions will contain forward-looking information. This information, by its nature, is subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause the stated outcome to differ materially from the actual outcome. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, I encourage you to read the cautionary note that accompanies our fourth quarter MD&A and the related news release, as well as the risk factors pertinent to our company. I would also like to point out that we will use various non-GAAP measures during the call. You can find explanations and reconciliations regarding these measures in the related news release. After the opening remarks, we will open the phone lines to analysts and investors for a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Russ for his remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Brian. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. My comments will be relatively brief, as I'm sure you want to listen to Stuart and Bryce on both their operational and financial results, as much has occurred in these areas over the last year. So I'll just generally speak a bit about where we are as a company. Generally, our strategic plan over the years has been to stay within our means. And I've spoken many times on these quarterly calls about that. We run our mining operations at the highest level we can and the lowest operating costs we can achieve. Additionally, we ensure that our capital discipline is the number one priority for us. Over the years, this, in turn, should allow us to take advantage of the opportunities that come with a cyclical business such as the one we are in. We've had some pretty tough times. During those tough times, we've acquired our pipeline of assets. We bought them when copper prices were low, and our entry costs were also low. So we've always looked for long-life, low-cost assets. We have a large stable of them and we have a plan to build out and develop them when conditions present themselves. We've waited for the correct time. In this business, patience is difficult to come by because of outside forces. But here we are, on the cusp of some exciting times with the metal prices. Those are exciting times for our management team and our shareholders as we enjoy this present copper price regime we've been waiting for. I don't think generally that we're going to see anything like this in our lifetime. I've been in this business for over 40 years now, and while we have seen good prices, we've not seen price levels like this, which is expected to be sustained for a period of time. It’s not just about the price, but I think ultimately it’s going to be the longevity of the cycle. This is certainly not 2011 when we last saw $4.50 copper. So this company is perfectly positioned to take advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime event. While we're continuing to pump out cash, our Florence project is transitioning to construction, our Yellowhead project is advancing in the EEA process along with our First Nations friends, and New Prosperity is sitting in the wings, our path forward is bright over the next decade. How is a mining company built? It’s built on the back of long-term reserves. Between all of our operating and development assets, we have 15 billion pounds of reserves. That’s not resources; those are all 43-101 reserves, all with feasibility studies on them. If we compare that in the context of the industry, those are more reserves than Lundin, Hudbay, Capstone, and Copper Mountain. In fact, our reserves are 50% greater than Capstone's and Copper Mountain's combined. And those reserves are valued at less than $0.05 a pound in the ground, while Lundin is valued at $0.30, Capstone at $0.30, and Copper Mountain at a staggering $0.80. Some of the catch-up on these metrics by investors will occur in terms of growth because our growth of production continues. Frankly, that's going to be in a pretty short period of time—next 36 to 48 months if we continue on this path of where we think copper price is. So frankly, I think we're the best growth story in the copper space. We've been grinding through, as we've had a low-cost operation in Gibraltar. The Gibraltar operation has generated cash for the last 15 years and has put us in a position where we can now develop our pipeline and production. If you look at it conceptually, we grow with Florence. We expect to produce 185 million pounds of copper by 2023 and a further 170 million pounds by 2025 once Yellowhead comes online for annual production of over 355 million pounds annually at roughly US$1.60 per tonne C1 cost. If we look at all your estimations and analyst estimations with copper ranging well above $3, as you can see, these are going to be pretty accretive reserves in the ground. This also does not include any consideration of where we may find ourselves headed on New Prosperity discussions with our First Nations firm. A year there has been difficult in many respects for so many of us in the world and has set this company up for the future in many, many ways. Everyone seems to be focused on Gibraltar as I said, but that's only a small component of this company, albeit as important for the past 15 years and will continue for another 20 or 30 years. Copper is going over $5 a pound; there’s no doubt about it. Both Chile and Peru are in serious trouble on the pandemic front. Operations won’t be coming on screen anytime soon nor will other Latin American operations. To put it into perspective, treatment and refining charges are slow and low; the smelters are shutting down because they can't afford to be open. No concentrate, no metal, but there is still metal demand. Highland Valley Copper, for example, just sold a spot cargo of 60,000 tons of concentrate for $23 a tonne, which is $0.023 a pound. So smelters will go down, and demand will still be evident, and copper prices will remain high for the long term. I'd like now to turn the call over to Stuart.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks, Russ, and good morning, everyone. And thanks for joining our fourth quarter earnings call. We actually announced our copper production and EBITDA estimates in early January, so that part was really news yesterday, but with copper prices now over $4 a pound, there are a number of other positive developments in our business recently. It’s definitely an exciting time for us. I wanted to spend a few minutes just to review the last year, and it was certainly a memorable one for many reasons. Firstly, at Gibraltar, as always, our primary focus is on the health and safety of our employees. Our response to the COVID pandemic in March was evidence of that commitment. Workplace protocols that we implemented kept the operation running smoothly and our staff safely employed. While we've had a few COVID cases recently within our workforce, we haven't had any issues and no operational disruptions. We’re also proud that we had zero lost time incidents at Gibraltar last year. When the copper price dropped last March, we took quick action to adjust our cost structure, and those initiatives resulted in about $30 million of cost savings in Q2 and Q3. We made those operational adjustments without any impact on copper production, without any employee layoffs, and without jeopardizing our long-term mine plan. This definitely demonstrates the flexibility that we have at Gibraltar and the value of a long-life stable operation in a good jurisdiction. We produced 123 million pounds of copper for the year at a cash cost of $1.92 a pound, leading to operating cash flows of $106 million and adjusted EBITDA of $108 million for the year. We also made very good progress at Florence over the last year. This is a very valuable asset that is going to dramatically change Taseko’s copper production and cost profile in the near future. The test work that we've completed has been an important de-risking step, increasing our operational understanding and validating many of the key assumptions from the feasibility study. In December, we received the state Aquifer Protection Permit, which was a key milestone following a public consultation process where we saw strong community support for the project. This support is now also reflected as the Florence town council voted in January not to appeal that permit. So community support bodes well for the EPA permitting process, which is ongoing, and we expect to receive that permit in the next few months. So we’ve had successes at both Gibraltar and Florence. With our recently completed financings, we also have a much stronger balance sheet than we’ve had in the past. The $400 million bond refinancing completed earlier this month was used to repay our $250 million bond, which was due to mature in 2022. The upsize provides a significant portion of the required funding for Florence at an attractive cost and with no maintenance covenants. We now have a cash balance of approximately US$200 million and no significant debt maturities until 2026. So we believe we're very well positioned. At Gibraltar, we expect to produce 125 million pounds of copper this year, a slight increase over 2020. We expect that production to be weighted towards the second half of the year as head grades increase as we advance in the Pollyanna pit and also begin to access ore from the Gibraltar pit later this year. Of course, copper prices are significantly higher than they were in 2020, which means improved financial results for us. To give you an idea of our leverage at these prices, we would have generated roughly $275 million of adjusted EBITDA last year, which is a 150% increase. Since 90% of our revenue comes from unhedged copper production, the copper price recovery is very meaningful for us. We have the majority of the required Florence funding already in hand, and we recently announced that we're moving forward with final design engineering and procurement activities. This upfront work will allow us to move smoothly into the construction of the commercial facility. We’re planning to move forward with on-the-ground construction as soon as we have the final EPA permit in place, which we expect to happen around mid-year. That schedule would put us in commercial production in the second half of 2022. Florence is one of the lowest CapEx intensity copper projects in the world. It also has a low operating cost of $1.10 a pound, and it’s a green project that will produce refined copper cathode with 90% less carbon emissions than a conventional mine. This will become a new U.S. domestic supply of green metal that fits very well into government plans for renewable energy infrastructure and electric vehicle manufacturing. Lastly, I wanted to talk about our longer-term growth plans. Beyond Florence, we have two other significant copper projects in the pipeline, Yellowhead and New Prosperity, and we're actively engaged on both projects. At Yellowhead, we’re focused on the environmental assessment process and engagement with local communities, including First Nations. We’ve also commenced discussions with potential JV partners for that project. As a reminder, for New Prosperity, we're engaged in a confidential dialogue with the BC Provincial Government and the Tŝilhqot'in National Government to find a solution to the conflict around that project. Over the last year, we've made progress in establishing a constructive dialogue with the Tŝilhqot'in. In December, we agreed to extend our standstill agreement for an additional year so that that conversation can continue. This is important work occurring in the background at both Yellowhead and New Prosperity. We understand that equity markets are focused on shorter-term catalysts, but the development of major projects like this takes time and patience. With successful outcomes, either of these projects could become very meaningful for shareholders in the near future. In a $4 copper price environment, there's also expansion potential at Gibraltar, and that's something we're studying as well. As Russ already mentioned, Taseko has close to 15 billion pounds of copper in proven and probable reserves, and that reserve base is unmatched in the mid-tier copper space. We have a great base to build from, and we'll continue to focus on organic growth to realize the inherent value of those reserves. With that, I'd like to wrap up and hand the call over to Bryce to talk about our Q4 financials.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Stuart. Good morning, everyone. For the fourth quarter, we reported earnings for mine operations before depletion and amortization of $27 million and adjusted EBITDA of $20.5 million. Earnings this quarter continued to benefit from the recovering copper price, which averaged $3.25 per pound for the quarter. Taseko also had a further $8 million in upward provisional copper price adjustments included in revenue, resulting in an average realized price of $3.69 per pound in our revenue. We had sales of 25 million pounds, similar to our production, and we continue to keep our concentrate inventory low at the end of December, which ended at 3.4 million pounds. Total site operating costs came in a bit higher this quarter at US$2.82 per pound. This was higher than the previous quarters on a per-pound basis due to a few factors. First, we had lower copper production. There was also $0.36 attributed to inventory for four stockpiles that grew over the quarter and throughout 2020. Additionally, we also had higher costs in our finished goods inventory. These together increased by $8 million in the quarter. There were also lower mining costs capitalized as work focused on the Pollyanna pit, with only $1.2 million related to work in the Gibraltar pit. Lastly, the Canadian dollar also strengthened, finishing the year at $1.27 per pound. However, at a realized copper price of $3.69, we still made a notable operating margin of $27 million before depreciation and generated cash flow from operations of $20 million. Depreciation is at $19 million and aligns with our previous guidance of $20 million per quarter, which is what we expect going forward for the Pollyanna pit for 2021. With the higher copper price in the new mine plan, we also invested in the dewatering of the Gibraltar pit in Q4 with $7 million going towards procurement of the pumping and piping system to move water into the Granite pit in 2021, now that we have finished mining in the Granite pit. We also spent $4 million on Florence. These CapEx programs were funded from our operating cash flow. GAAP net income was $6 million, and EPS was $0.02 a share. With the weakening U.S. dollar and the removal of the unrealized effects gain on our 2022 notes, which are denominated in U.S. dollars, we had an adjusted net loss of $7.5 million or $0.03 per share. Looking back on 2020, the cash flow statement shows that with everything that COVID threw at us, which Stuart outlined, we finished the year with $85 million in cash, which is $32 million more than where we started. The modest equity raise we did in November for net proceeds of $34 million remains in our bank account today, improving our liquidity. We also generated $170 million Canadian of net proceeds from our bond refinancing in January that Stuart mentioned; that bond was upsized to $400 million but at a significantly lower interest rate. Our interest costs only increased by $6 million a year. So today we have US$200 million in cash. While we watch the copper price attempt to break and surpass prices not seen for a decade, this is extremely timely as we plan for the construction of Florence in the second half of this year. We have many options available for any remaining funding. We know Florence is a very valuable asset in the current environment. Florence is expected to provide an extraordinary financial return given its low CapEx intensity and anticipated low operating costs. Florence has a net present value of $680 million based on our 2017 technical report using a $3 copper price. With funding substantially in hand and removing that CapEx in that model, it increases the funded NPV of Florence to $900 million or US$3.25 per share. If I run that funded Florence model using a $3.50 copper price, it’s US$4 per share, and at today’s copper price of $4.30 per pound, I see an NPV of US$5.50 per share. So there's significant appreciation potential in the near term for our shareholders as we prepare to build and operate Florence. This is all happening at a time when copper attempts to break new records and the world plans to recover from the pandemic while finding itself critically short of copper. With the backdrop of investors hungry for ESG-conscious companies and qualifying green investments, 2021 will be a transformational year for Taseko. I will now turn it back to the operator for any questions.

Operator

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Your first question comes from Mike Kozak with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. A couple from me. First, do you expect to have to wait for Michael Regan, who's I think the new head of the EPA and presumably his new incoming team, to review all the in-progress approvals before Florence receives the UIC? What I'm asking is, when you say the UIC permit by midyear, is that the assumption you're making?

Speaker 6

Yeah, Mike. It's Richard Tremblay here. So we do not foresee any delays with the EPA reviewing or finalizing the permit and commencing. The process gets issued for the draft and is then out for public comment. At the end of the public comment period, there’s a hearing. Comments are made, and the EPA will adjust the draft permit if required based on some of the comments received and then will issue it. But we don’t foresee any delay or any issues there.

Speaker 5

Okay, that’s helpful. My second question is just on the Florence financing here. Looking at the numbers: initial CapEx is $230 million. You have $400 million now, less than $250 million from the bond refinance, so $150 million net. Call it an US$80 million funding gap, excluding what you have on your balance sheet from cash now from last quarter. And just by my estimates at current copper prices, you’re basically looking at two quarters of cash flow from Gibraltar. So, I want to confirm that the financing options like getting a JV partner or selling a royalty to finance Florence are no longer being considered, right, given where copper prices are and the fact that the funding gap is so small?

Speaker 2

Well, I think you've got the handle on the numbers. We've got— as we said in our script, we have US$200 million of cash in hand today. We're generating good cash flow from Gibraltar. CapEx of Florence is relatively low at only $230 million. So, yeah, we think we're in a very strong position. We definitely have the ability to fund this project on our own and maintain 100% ownership. We’re continuing discussions with a few select JV partners. We’ll see how those discussions play out. We still think that the potential to maybe sell a minority stake at something based off of NPV—$700 million NPV or higher at today’s prices—if we can do a very accretive transaction with a minority stake, then that's something we may consider doing. But if we don’t get the valuation we want, as you say, we have many other options to fund this and own it ourselves on a 100% basis. We’re in a much stronger position today, and frankly, looking back, we're glad that we didn't do a transaction last year because we're in a much stronger position today and have many more options. Sometimes it’s the deals that you don’t do that turn out well for you.

Speaker 5

I completely agree. That's good to hear. Okay. Thanks, everyone. That's all for me.

Operator

Thank you very much. Your next question comes from Craig Hutchison with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning, guys. My question is on Gibraltar. We did see mining rates pick up here in Q4. Can we expect similar mining rates through the balance of this year that we saw in Q4?

Speaker 2

When you refer to mining rates, do you mean total material moved?

Speaker 7

Yeah, total material moved. Maybe, if you can give me some context on strip ratios as well that'd be helpful.

Speaker 6

Yeah. So, Craig, Richard Tremblay here. Mining rates will continue similar to Q4 rates for this year.

Speaker 7

Okay. And in terms of grades, I know you guys are guiding for higher grades in the back half of this year, but just going into Q1, should we expect that somewhere into Q4 or are you guys already in a higher grade portion right now?

Speaker 6

Yeah, the production profile for the year: roughly 45% of our production will be in the first half of the year and 55% in the second half.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Thanks. And on Florence as well, just a follow-up question on the permitting. I know you guys target with your Q3 results to have all the permits in hand, so early 2021; now it's sort of midyear. Can you just provide some context of why that timeline has slipped on the EPA front?

Speaker 2

Government.

Speaker 3

The timeline was impacted by a number of different things. But there is no set timeline; it’s a process that needs to be run through. The best estimate is really what we look at. COVID-19 played a factor. Responses have been slow for the treatment plan for the historic properties that are on site that we have to deal with, among other things. But the process continues to advance, just not as quickly as we originally thought.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then just one last question. I think that the CapEx guidance is now around US$240 million. Is that correct?

Speaker 3

US$230 million is the number.

Speaker 7

US$230 million?

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7

Okay. You guys are feeling pretty confident of that, just given where fuel prices have gone recently in the U.S.?

Speaker 3

Yeah, we've looked at that. We're reasonably confident that that would include some assumptions about reclamation bonding. A portion of that bonding will be covered by surety bonds, and there is some working capital in there. Generally, we're comfortable with that estimate.

Speaker 2

Craig, the more engineering you do, the better refinement you get on your costs. Although we've been delayed with the permitting last year, the delay blended into where we were in the copper price cycle. At the same time, we were refining our engineering studies and getting more detailed overall engineering costs. When that happens, you can really focus on your capital expenditures.

Speaker 7

Okay, great, guys. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you very much. If there's no further questions, we can wrap up the call here. Thanks again, everyone, for joining, and we'll talk to you again in May after our first quarter. Thanks again. Bye, everyone.

Speaker 2

See you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Thank you. Have a good day.