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Good morning and welcome to the Travel Zoo second quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded. Currently, all callers have been placed in a listen-only mode and following management's prepared remarks, the call will be opened for your questions. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. And if you need to remove yourself from the queue please press star one again at any time if you should need operator assistance please press star zero the company would like to remind you that all statements made during this conference call and presented in the slides that are not statements of historical facts constitute forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Security Litigations Reform Act of 1995. Actual results could differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are described in the company's forms 10-K and 10-Q and other SEC filings. Unless required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please refer to the company's website for important information, including the company's earning press release issued earlier today. An archive recording of this conference call will be made available on the company's investor relations website at www.travelzoo.com forward slash ir now it is my pleasure to turn the floor over to travel zoo's global ceo holger bartell its chair general counsel and ceo of jack's fight club christina cicada and its financial controller north america jeff hoffman jeff will start with overview.
Thank you, operator, and welcome to those of you joining us. Today, I'm stepping in for Lejeune, our chief accounting officer. Please refer to the management presentation to follow along with our prepared remarks. The presentation in PDF format is available on our investor relations site at travelzoo.com forward slash IR. Let's begin with slide number 4. TravelZoo's consolidated Q2 revenue was $23.9 million, which is up 13% from the prior year. In constant currencies, revenue was $23.5 million, up 12% from the prior year. Operating income, which we as management call operating profit, decreased as we invested more in member growth. Q2 operating profit was $2.1 million, or 9% of revenue, down from $4 million in the prior year. Let me explain the rationale for our significant increase in marketing expense, which lowered EPS. Slide five shows the favorable payback on the acquisition of new club members that we were able to achieve. On the left side, you see the average acquisition cost for a full paying club member was $28 in Q1 and $38 in Q2. On the right side, you see that we get this money back right away. The member pays, in the U.S. case here, immediately their $40 annual membership fee. Additionally, we generated $18 in revenue from transactions in the same quarter. This immediate payback doesn't even consider an increase in advertising revenues and future membership fees and other revenues. Now, slide six shows, as a reminder, that with subscription businesses, membership fee revenue is recognized relatively over the subscription period, but the acquisition costs are expensed immediately when incurred. Slide 7 shows the effect. While we have an immediate payback, the impact on earnings and EPS is different. Higher member acquisition expenses, coupled with only a portion of revenue recognized in the quarter, reduced EPS this quarter. In the case of Q2, that effect was a reduction of $0.13. On slide 8, you can see that revenue growth came from all segments. With favorable ROI on member acquisition in the UK, we invested heavily there. Jax Flight Club revenue increased by 33%. Operating profit decreased in both our North America and Europe segments, but increased slightly in our Jax Flight Club segment. On slide nine, we break down our categories of revenue, advertising and commerce, membership fees, and other. Advertising and commerce revenue was $20.9 million for Q225. Revenue for membership membership fees increased to 3 million. Membership fees have started to drive significant revenue growth. Next year, we expect them to account for about 25% of revenue. On slide 10, you can see that our gap operating margin was 9%. In Q225, acquiring more club members has the effect of lowering gap operating margin. Still, given the currently favorable ROI, we will continue to further grow the number of club members to bring TravelZoo into high growth mode. Slide 11 shows that investments in club members occur in all key markets. Over time, we expect margins to return to previous levels or even exceed them. On slide 12, we provide information on non-GAAP operating profit as we believe it better explains how TravelZoo's management evaluates financial performance. Q2 2025 non-GAAP operating profit was $2.4 million, that's 10% of revenue, compared to non-GAAP operating profit of $4.8 million in the prior year period. Slide 13 provides information about the items that are excluded in the calculation of non-GAAP operating profit. Please turn to slide 14. As of June 30, 2025, consolidated cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash was $11.2 million. Cash flow from operations was $1.3 million. We reduced merchant payables by $2.4 million and repurchased 172,088 shares. Now looking ahead, for Q3 2025, we expect year-over-year revenue growth to continue. We expect revenue growth to accelerate as a trend in subsequent quarters as membership fees revenue is recognized routably over this subscription period of 12 months, as we acquire new members, and as more legacy members become club members. Over time, we expect profitability to substantially increase as recurring membership fees revenue will be recognized. In the short term, fluctuations in reported net income are possible. We might see attractive opportunities to increase marketing. We expense marketing costs immediately. Now I turn the discussion over to Holder.
Thank you, Jeff. We will continue to leverage TravelZoo's global reach, trusted brand and our strong relationships with top travel suppliers to negotiate more club offers for club members. TravelZoo members are affluent, active and open to new experiences. We inspire travel enthusiasts to travel to places they never imagined they could. TravelZoo is the must-have membership for those who love to travel as much as we do. Today, I would like to share a bit of information about the TravelZoo club membership. Please turn to slide 16. TravelZoo is becoming the place where the world's travel enthusiasts get together. Membership allows them to live their life to the fullest, and it comes with an array of benefits. Most importantly, club offers that are only available to them. slides 17 and 18 provide some examples of club offers from unique experiences like cooking with a Michelin star chef in Tuscany coupled with an amazing price to a luxury escape to the Maldives in an overwater villa or an adventure in Iceland club offers provide outstanding value and make us travel enthusiasts get up and go even more. As slide 19 shows, worldwide complimentary lounge access in case of flight delays is another popular benefit among club members. Slide 20 provides more information about Travelzoo members. Travelzoo is loved by travel enthusiasts who are affluent, active and open to new experiences moving to slide 22 it provides an overview of our management focus we are working on grow the number of paying members and accelerate revenue growth by converting legacy members and adding new club members add new benefits to the paid membership retain and grow our profitable advertising business from the popular top 20 product Accelerate revenue growth, which drives future profits in spite of temporary lower EPS Grow Checks Flight Club's profitable subscription revenue And develop TravelZoo Meta with Discipline Now Christina will provide a quick update on TravelZoo Meta as well as Checks Flight Club Thank you, Holger We continue to work on the production of the first Metaverse travel experiences They will be browser-enabled.
As stated in previous earnings calls, we are conscious of developing Travelzumeta in a financially disciplined way. We will provide additional updates in due time. For Jack's Flight Club, revenue increased 33% year-over-year, and the number of premium subscribers increased 15%. The increase in revenue is driven primarily by investments and growth of the premium subscribers over the past few years, and the increase in the price of the membership fee, which was implemented in Q2 of last year. We plan to continue to invest in growth, especially now as we have even more runway to do so. I'm now handing over to the operator for questions for Jeff, Holger, and me.
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. And if you'd like to withdraw your question, again, press star 1. Your first question comes from Theodore O'Neill with Litchfield Hills Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks very much. I'm trying to understand a little more clearly the dynamics of the profitability going forward. And I'm thinking about this slide 7 here with the net impact in the quarter being a loss of 13 cents. So when you talk about the profitability improving over time, does that mean that the acquisition costs go lower or the revenue goes higher?
Theodore, the slide 7 looks at one specific quarter. It looks at Q2. So in Q2, we had marketing expenses, actually membership acquisition expenses of $2.7 million. And then the slide shows the revenue that is specifically generated from the members that we acquired in Q2. What you see there is that in quarters going forward, so in Q3, Q4, we will continue to generate revenue from these, but we will not have expenses to that cohort of new members that signed up. Now in Q3, we will sign up new members, so there will be new member acquisition costs for these new members, but we will have the positive impact for members that we acquired in Q1, Q2, and even at the end of last year, which will contribute revenue. growth in the in in form of membership fees so coupled together with all that revenue that is coming in for members that were acquired in the past that is what's driving over profitability going forward in the next few quarters and then more so next year okay thanks very much and my other question is about the club offers so i you know i've got my um press release and teams and
i'm wondering about of these do you expect this a monthly thing it's a quarterly it's sort of what's expected pace of these offers?
There are several per week. There are many per week, usually a few dozen per week. We do not issue press release for every new club or for the press releases. Just show an example of some offers that we released over that period.
Okay. Thanks very much.
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Kuczynski with Noble Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my question. I appreciate it. You stated that You invested in acquiring subscribers, and while I see the marketing expenses went up, it seems like the cost of revenues also went up significantly. I was wondering if you can address the cost of revenues in a quarter.
Sure, Michael. We had a few opportunities, again, to purchase distressed inventory, distressed travel products from suppliers at a highly discounted price, and that allowed us to create very strong club offers, and you heard that they are very important to our members. So that, in turn, is what we then leverage to attract new members, and it also makes it easier to convert legacy members to club members. And to properly classify these expenses, we had to put them into cost of revenue.
Gotcha. And so as we kind of look towards the second half of the year, should we look for more normalized or normalized levels, or how should we look at that, given that this seems like it was more of a one-time opportunity? So can you kind of just give us what might be ongoing?
It really depends on the opportunities that we see. Since the travel industry in general, particularly hotels, are seeing a little bit weaker demand, I would expect that we will continue to see these opportunities.
Okay. And then I guess in terms of the favorable dynamics, in terms of the investments and marketing spend, And is that something that we should model going into the second half of the year? Are those favorable dynamics still evident as we go into the third quarter?
Well, look, Michael, as we explained, the payback is very, very attractive for us. So essentially, I give someone $28, $38, and right away they give me $40 or $58 back. I would do that as much as I can. So the question is probably what stops us from doing more of that. And let me explain to you, what stops us from that is our cool hat. Of course, we will only do it as long as the payback is favorable. So as long as we can keep that acquisition cost at $40 or below, and we actually hope we can even lower it further as we gain more experience, we will continue to invest in member acquisition. We would be stupid not to do so. So in essence, the market somehow will drive how much we can spend, and that's why it's very difficult to predict for the next couple of quarters how much we will effectively spend on member acquisition. If the conditions are the same, if we can continue to see that very attractive payback, we will continue to invest, even if it affects in the very, very short-term EPS. But I'm sure you will model this out. And as you then move into next year and you see all this revenue coming in from the new members that we acquired this year because the revenue gets prorated over the next 12 months, then we will finally see the very, very positive impact of the members we are acquiring now. It appears that the focus on acquiring subscribers, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems like it was focused in Europe. can you talk a little bit about the strategy there particularly about your european strategy it was both actually we acquired even more club members in north america you just noticed that in europe we reported the loss so one might wonder why was there specifically a loss in europe this quarter and the answer is simply that member acquisition in the uk went extremely well. Members, consumers were very attracted to our model. We have a good brand there. Our offers are strong. So we were able to acquire club members there at a very attractive price. And so we put more money into the UK and that's what drove the income in Europe lower than it was last year.
And my final question, Holger, thanks for all the questions. Can you talk about the prospect of maybe a premium subscription level? I know that you talked in previous calls about the prospect that the $40 annual fee is seemingly pretty low given the value that you have for your membership.
And I was just wondering if you had given some thought about the rollout of more of a premium subscription level and whether or not that might be for 2026 or maybe out in 2027. good idea michael we are not looking at it right now we want to keep things simple so we will go with this one tier uh however you are right uh from conversations that we have with our members we see that our membership fee is probably too low and for 2026 we will evaluate um by what extent we would like to increase it if so great thanks for all the questions appreciate it good
luck.
Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Scholl with Farrington Research. Please go ahead.
Hi, I just had another question on the subscriber acquisition spending. Are you essentially saying that you would limit how much you were willing to pay on SAC to that annual membership fee? And then just in In terms of like the benefit for the members, like if we think of like maybe like a gross contribution for the membership fee, I guess, you know, how should we maybe think about like how that nets out versus some of the benefits, obviously excluding, you know, the benefit of being able to access and purchase the deals that you present to them?
So, Pat, what I meant is that the effectiveness and the ROI of member acquisition is what will limit our activity to acquire new club members. If our acquisition cost to acquire new club members in the U.S., for example, was way higher than $58, we would obviously slow down. We would maybe even discontinue investing in certain channels that we use to acquire new members. So that's what I meant. As long as the payback is positive, then we have no reason not to invest because even from a cash perspective, the $38 is mostly what we pay to advertising channels, being it Meta, Google or some others, while the $40 is something that comes in from the member right away. So as soon as they join, they pay the $40 membership fee with their credit card. So even from a cash perspective, there's no limitation on how much we could do. So answering your second part, you know, when I speak with members, I meet with them a lot. They value different benefits differently. The number one thing why they love to be members of TravelZoo is because, you know, as we say, they are we are travel enthusiasts they love to go to new places they i met a couple that went to an italian lake in italy they said we had never even heard of it but travel zoo told us about it sounded so exciting we just decided to go we just came back and we booked already another trip so that's what travel zoo club what the travel zoo club um is all about and uh others really appreciate these benefits like free lounge access for flights in fact we had
one member who already registered over 50 flights over the next few months for this benefit so even people would travel very frequently see see such a good value in in being a travel to member because of okay and I understand that it's like the cohort of subscribers in a year ago were much lower but I'm just kind of curious if you if there's any sort of things that you've learned in terms of being able to retain subscribers and just how that those retention efforts have been working the majority of
members club members that we have right now became club members at the end of 2024 because they were legacy members they were members who have been traveling members for a long time and they were excluded they now have their membership until the end of the year so we only will start having really good and reliable data on renewal rates starting at the beginning of 2026 unfortunately yeah no I understand that I was just under the impression that you you had brought in some members before that.
That was all I was really asking about, but okay. All right, I think that's all I had. Sure.
Your next question comes from the line of Ed Wu with Adesiant Capital. Please go ahead.
Yeah, congratulations on the subscriber growth. My question is, what are you seeing out in the travel industry in the US as well as in Europe, in terms of is it, you said it was a little bit soft Have you noticed any, you know, as it's getting worse? Is it stabilized? Thank you.
Hi, Ed. There's not much difference right now between North America and Europe. As you have seen, prices for flights are coming down. It's not like the airlines are flying empty. Hotel prices are coming down. That all indicates a bit lower demand. And this allows us to develop these strong offers. I mean, you saw some of these club offers. They provide excellent value, and that's what we do by taking advantage of how the travel industry is evolving.
Great. So, you know, you did mention that, you know, when it is a little bit weaker in the hotels and travel suppliers need to fill in their rooms. Have you noticed any change in consumer behavior? Have you noticed, you know, maybe your high-end spenders trading down or spending less?
No, we have not heard that from our members. our members are actually quite affluent and from all the conversations and meetings we have had we haven't heard that they would be trending down but you know they are travel zoo members so it allows them to go to very luxurious places and incredible experiences at prices that are much better than what other people are paying so that by effect allows them to with less then my last Last question is just, you know, I'll say you talk to a lot of these travel suppliers.
Do you think that people just see this as kind of like a little bit of a blip or do they, are people a little bit concerned heading into the back half and maybe possibly into 2026 in terms of the weakening travel trend?
Right now, everyone is thinking quite short term because the whole environment is a bit unsecure, unsure. people don't know what's happening in the U.S. with the political administration and so forth, so no one is really making any long-term predictions.
Well, thanks for answering my questions, and I wish you guys good luck. Thank you.
This concludes the Q&A portion of today's call. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Holger Bartel for closing remarks.
Sure. Dear investors, thank you so much for your time and support today, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.
This concludes today's Travel Zoo's second quarter 2025 earnings call and webcast. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a great day.
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