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Wheaton Precious Metals Corp. Q3 FY2025 Earnings Call

Wheaton Precious Metals Corp. (WPM)

Earnings Call FY2025 Q3 Call date: 2025-09-30 Concluded

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Wheaton Precious Metals 2025 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Friday, November 7, 2025, at 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time. I will now turn the conference over to Emma Murray, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Emma Murray Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for participating in today's call. I'm joined today by Randy Smallwood, Wheaton's Chief Executive Officer; Haytham Hodaly, President; Curt Bernardi, EVP Strategy and General Counsel; Vincent Lau, Chief Financial Officer; Wes Carson, VP Mining Operations; and Neil Burns, VP, Corporate Development. For those not currently viewing the webcast, please note that a PDF version of the slide presentation is available on the Presentations page of our website. Some of the comments on today's call may include forward-looking statements. Please refer to Slide 2 for important cautionary information and disclosures. It should be noted that all figures referred to on today's call are in U.S. dollars, unless otherwise noted. With that, I'll turn the call over to Randy Smallwood.

Thank you, Emma, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Wheaton's third quarter results of 2025. We are pleased to announce that our portfolio of long-life, low-cost assets has once again delivered strong results this quarter, enabling us to achieve record revenue, earnings and operating cash flow for the first 9 months of 2025. This performance underscores the streaming model's unique ability to generate predictable levered cash flows while maintaining a deferred payment schedule, an advantage not offered by the traditional royalty model, which requires full upfront payments and lacks embedded leverage. And of course, 100% of Wheaton's revenue comes from streams, providing a competitive advantage amongst others in the space. As a result of strong performances by key assets, including Salobo and Antamina, coupled with the ramp-up of production at Blackwater and Goose, we recorded production of 173,000 gold equivalent ounces this quarter and are firmly on track to achieve our 2025 production guidance of 600,000 to 670,000 gold equivalent ounces. And with over $1.2 billion in cash and an undrawn $2.5 billion revolving credit facility and strong growing projected cash flows, the company remains well positioned to meet all funding commitments and pursue new accretive opportunities, continuing to grow our competitive dividend. Based on this strong financial foundation, Wheaton also continues to invest in innovation across the mining sector as well as community initiatives alongside our mining partners. During the quarter, Wheaton launched its second annual Future of Mining Challenge, which this year focuses on advancing sustainable water management technologies. Following the close of expressions of interest phase, 17 proposals have been selected to advance with the winner to be announced at the PDAC conference in March of 2026. And with that, it is my pleasure to now turn the call over to our President, Haytham Hodaly.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Randy, and good morning, everyone. Alongside strong performances from our producing assets, Wheaton's growth profile was further derisked through continued progress across 6 key development projects scheduled to come online over the next 24 months. Notably, several of these projects have announced accelerated timelines or expansions, reinforcing confidence in our previously forecasted 40% production growth by 2029. Furthermore, recent joint venture announcements marked significant progress for Copper World and Santo Domingo, further derisking both projects. We are pleased to have announced 2 new streaming transactions over the past 2 months, one with Carcetti on the Hemlo mine and another with Waterton Gold on the Spring Valley project, for which Neil Burns will share more details later in this call. These announcements reinforce our disciplined approach to capital deployment as we remain focused on identifying accretive opportunities that are thoughtfully structured to deliver meaningful and lasting value for all stakeholders. With a solid foundation of organic growth that continues to strengthen, the company is well positioned to pursue opportunities that align with our long-term strategy and uphold our commitment to quality as we have demonstrated with our most recent transactions. And with that, I would like to now turn the call over to Wes Carson, who will provide more details on our operating results. Wes?

Speaker 4

Thanks, Haytham. Good morning, everyone. Overall production in the third quarter was 173,000 ounces, a 22% increase from the prior year, primarily due to strong production at Salobo and Antamina, coupled with the commencement of production at Blackwater. In Q3, Salobo produced 67,000 ounces of attributable gold, a 7% increase from last year, driven by higher throughput grades and recovery. Vale reported that by the end of July, Salobo III had fully ramped up and the entire complex is now operating at full capacity, consistently delivering strong operational performance. Vale continues to advance a series of growth-focused initiatives to enhance efficiencies and support long- and medium-term production growth across the Salobo complex. Constancia produced 19,500 ounces of attributable GEOs in Q3, a 9% improvement from last year, primarily driven by 19% higher gold production resulting from higher grades, partially offset by an 11% decline in silver output due to lower throughput. On September 23, 2025, Hudbay Minerals commented on the ongoing social unrest in Peru, where Constancia was impacted by local protests and illegal blockades. The mill was temporarily shut down as a safety precaution, while authorities addressed the situation. On October 7, 2025, Hudbay announced that operations had resumed and throughput has since returned to normal levels. Penasquito produced 2.1 million ounces of attributable silver in Q3, up 17% from last year, primarily driven by higher throughput and partially offset by lower grades as mining transitioned back into the Penasco pit, which contains lower silver grades relative to Chile Colorado. In the third quarter, Blackwater produced 6,400 ounces of attributable GEOs supported by higher-than-expected throughput and grades. Production for the year is expected to be weighted to the fourth quarter with higher mill throughput rates and feed grades expected compared to Q3 2025. Artemis has also announced a 33% increase to Phase 1 processing plant capacity, raising the nameplate from 6 million tonnes per annum to 8 million tonnes per annum with a targeted completion date by the end of 2026. In addition, Artemis is nearing completion of front-end engineering and design work for an optimized and accelerated Phase 2 expansion with an investment decision expected before year-end. In Q3, Almina restarted production of the zinc and lead concentrates at the Aljustrel mine, resulting in the resumption of attributable silver production to the company. During the quarter, Goose transitioned from commissioning to commercial production, which was announced on October 6. As reported by B2Gold, open pit and underground mining rates at the Umwelt deposit have continued to meet or exceed expectations during the 30-day commercial production period. B2Gold has also reported that gold recoveries have been in line with expectations and are expected to average higher than 90% through Q4 of 2025. Wheaton's production outlook for 2025 remains unchanged, and we continue to believe that we are well on track to achieve our annual production guidance of 600,000 to 670,000 GEOs. At Salobo, attributable production is expected to remain steady through the remainder of the year, supported by solid mining rates and consistent plant performance through Salobo I, II, and III. At Penasquito, attributable production is forecasted to be in line with budget and slightly down from Q3 due to steady mill performance and planned mine sequencing within the Penasco pit. At Antamina, attributable production is anticipated to strengthen in Q4 as the mine continues processing a higher portion of copper zinc ore. As mentioned by Randy, we remain confident that our catalyst-rich year is progressing as expected, with initial contributions from Mineral Park, Platreef, and Hemlo still forecasted by the end of 2025. That concludes the operations overview. And with that, I will turn the call over to Vincent.

Thank you. As detailed by Wes, production in Q3 was 173,000 GEOs, a 22% increase from last year due mainly to strong production from Salobo and Antamina, coupled with the commencement of production at Blackwater. Sales volumes were 138,000 GEOs, an increase of 13% from last year, driven by strong production from the second quarter, partially offset by a buildup of produced but not yet delivered or PBND, due to timing differences between production and sales. At the end of Q3, the PBND balance was approximately 152,000 GEOs, which is about 2.9 months of payable production. We expect PBND levels to stay at the higher end of our forecasted range of 2 to 3 months for the remainder of 2025, partly due to the ramp-up of new mines forecasted in Q4. Strong commodity prices, coupled with solid production led to record quarterly revenue of $476 million, an increase of 55% compared to last year. This increase was driven mainly by a 37% increase in commodity prices and a 13% increase in sales volumes. 58% of this revenue came from gold, 39% from silver, and the rest from palladium and cobalt. With silver recently outpacing gold and reaching record highs, our substantial silver exposure sets us apart from our peers and positions us well to benefit from the current pricing momentum. Net earnings increased by 138% from the prior year to $367 million, while adjusted net earnings increased by 84% to $281 million. Operating cash flow increased to $383 million, a 51% increase from last year. These gains outpaced the increase in gold and silver prices during the same period, highlighting the leverage from fixed-per-ounce production payments, which made up 76% of our revenue. During the quarter, we made total upfront cash payments for streams of $250 million, including $156 million for Koné, $50 million for Fenix, and $44 million for Kurmuk as our portfolio of development assets continued to advance toward production. During the quarter, CMOC exercised its 1/3 buyback option under the Cangrejos PMPA in exchange for a $102 million cash payment, resulting in a gain of $86 million and delivering an impressive pretax IRR of 185% to Wheaton. Overall, net cash inflows amounted to $151 million in the quarter, resulting in a cash balance of approximately $1.2 billion at September 30. For the Hemlo stream, we expect to make the entire $300 million upfront payment at deal close in Q4 2025 and begin recording production immediately thereafter. For the Spring Valley stream, the total upfront payment of $670 million will be paid in installments as various conditions are satisfied. This structure reflects our disciplined approach to providing funding throughout construction while ensuring the project remains adequately financed and on track at each stage. When these 2 streams are added to our existing stream funding commitments, we expect to disburse approximately $2.5 billion in upfront payments by the end of 2029. This reflects growth that we have seeded but not yet funded and demonstrates a highly efficient use of our capital. With $1.2 billion in cash and expected annual operating cash flows of $2.5 billion over the next 5 years, we currently expect to fund these commitments without using debt. In addition, our fully undrawn $2 billion revolving credit facility, together with a $500 million accordion provides exceptional financial flexibility and positions us with the strongest liquidity profile amongst our peers to pursue additional accretive opportunities. This concludes the financial summary. I'll now hand things over to Neil to walk through the details of Hemlo and Spring Valley streams.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Vincent. It's been a very busy few months for the corporate development team, and I'm delighted to provide an overview of our 2 most recent deal announcements, which further reinforce Wheaton's already sector-leading growth profile. On September 10, Wheaton entered into a financing commitment with Carcetti Capital Corporation to support its proposed acquisition of the Hemlo mine. Upon deal close, which is anticipated in the fourth quarter, Carcetti intends to change its name to Hemlo Mining Corporation or HMC. Wheaton's initial financing commitments included a gold stream of up to $400 million. However, following the strong success of its recent equity raise, which Wheaton supported with a lead order of $30 million, HMC has indicated its intention to proceed with a $300 million amount. In this scenario, Wheaton expects to receive 10.13% of payable gold until a total of 136,000 ounces have been delivered, after which Wheaton will receive 6.75% of the payable gold until an additional 118,000 ounces have been delivered, after which Wheaton will receive 4.5% of payable gold for the remaining life of the mine. These amounts would be adjusted proportionally if HMC were to elect a different stream amount. In return, Wheaton will make ongoing payments with gold ounces delivered equal to 20% of the spot price. Each of these drop-down thresholds will be subject to an adjustment if there are delays in deliveries relative to an agreed schedule commencing in 2033. If deliveries fall behind an agreed schedule by 10,000 ounces or more, the stream percentage will be increased by 5% until deliveries catch up in a mechanism that's aimed to mitigate timing risk. Assuming that HMC elects an upfront payment amount of $300 million, attributable gold production is forecast to average over 14,000 ounces of gold per year for the first 10 years of production and over 10,000 ounces per year for the life of the mine. Hemlo presents a unique opportunity to add immediate attributable gold ounces from a politically stable jurisdiction backed by a long history of production and a very capable operating team. We are proud to support HMC in its acquisition of a mine that has long been considered a cornerstone in Canada's mining industry while also continuing to contribute to the momentum across the sector. Just yesterday, you will have seen Wheaton announced a gold stream on the Spring Valley project located in Nevada and owned by Waterton Gold for cash consideration of $670 million. This represents a compelling opportunity to secure a significant gold stream while supporting an existing partner in the development of a high-quality, low-cost gold mine located in a prolific mining jurisdiction. Under the agreement, Wheaton will receive 8% of the payable gold until 300,000 ounces have been delivered, after which Wheaton will receive 6% of the payable gold for the remaining life of mine. In return, Wheaton will make ongoing payments for the ounces delivered equal to 20% of the spot price until the uncredited deposit has been fully reduced and 22% of the spot thereafter. Wheaton will also provide a $150 million cost overrun facility to provide further capacity to a project with an already conservative capital estimate. Attributable gold production is forecasted to average 29,000 ounces of gold per year for the first 5 years of production and over 25,000 ounces of gold per year for the first 10 years, with first production expected in 2028. This production profile reflects an optimized scenario that incorporates updated mineral reserves and resource estimates beyond the feasibility, which was published earlier this year. Located in a proven mining district, Spring Valley comprises an extensive land package of over 30,000 acres, very little of which has been explored. In fact, mining activities will occur on concessions, representing less than 5% of the total land package, leaving an opportunity for mine life extension with future exploration success. With its strong exploration potential, strategic location, and proven leadership team, we believe Spring Valley aligns perfectly with our commitment to investing in high-quality assets in stable jurisdictions. We're excited to deepen our relationship with Waterton as they look to unlock the full potential of this asset. With that, I'll now hand the call back over to Randy.

Thank you, Neil. In summary, Wheaton delivered another strong quarter marked by several key achievements. We delivered solid revenue, earnings, and cash flow, resulting in record year-to-date performance. We made notable progress on our near-term growth strategy with Aljustrel resuming production of its zinc lead concentrates and the ramp-up of production at both Blackwater and Goose, reflecting the continued momentum of our catalyst-rich year. Our growth profile was further derisked as construction progressed across key development projects, including Mineral Park, Platreef, Fenix, El Domo, Kurmuk, and Koné. In addition, joint venture agreements were announced for both Copper World and Santo Domingo, further derisking these projects. We also announced 2 accretive precious metal streaming transactions located in low-risk jurisdictions. First, on the currently operating Hemlo mine located in Ontario and just yesterday on Waterton Spring Valley project in Nevada. We believe our 100% streaming revenue model provides significantly greater leverage to rising commodity prices, while keeping us insulated from inflationary cost pressures, resulting in some of the highest margins in the precious metal space. We take pride in being the founders of the streaming model, an optimal alternative to traditional equity financing. Streaming provides upfront capital at a fair valuation without further share dilution, resulting in a dramatically improved return on invested capital and superior long-term value creation for the shareholders of our mining partners. Our balance sheet remains robust, providing ample flexibility to pursue well-structured, accretive and high-quality streaming opportunities. And finally, we take pride in our community investment leadership amongst precious metal streamers and have always and will always support both our partners and the communities where we live and operate. With that, I would like to open up the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Your first question is from Will Dalby from Berenberg.

Speaker 7

Yes. I have 2 questions. Firstly, on future growth. You've got a really compelling growth profile, but I'm just sort of wondering how you think your volume growth stacks up versus peers, both on an absolute and a risk-adjusted basis, sort of thinking in particular about some peers whose growth relies on restarts or on higher-risk jurisdictions. I'd be very interested to hear how you see your position in that context.

Speaker 3

Thank you. It's Haytham. Will, thank you for the question. From an absolute perspective and a relative perspective, I'll tell you, we've got growth close to 250,000 ounces a year between now and 2029. And that is certain growth, that's growth that's actually been permitted and a majority of that, I would say, almost more than 90% of that's actually in construction and heading towards development towards production. In the next 2 to 3 years, there are 2 projects starting this year, a couple starting next year and another 1 or 2 starting over the next couple of years after that. So it's a very, very strong growth profile. In terms of the actual number of ounces, we're generating close to an additional 250,000 ounces, which is probably almost double what our next closest peer is actually generating in terms of growth over the same period. So we're very excited about that. And that excludes a lot of the growth that you're seeing here with these latest transactions as well, where with the Hemlo transaction, with the Waterton transaction, but not to mention a significant number of our peers have also announced expansions, optimizations, et cetera, between now and then, which are also not included in that number. So we're very optimistic and very excited about going forward.

Speaker 7

Very clear. And then just a second question. If we rewind a bit, say, 10 years ago, your capital was largely going into repairing balance sheets. 5 years ago, it was mostly sort of funding gold projects. Looking ahead, do you see the next 5 years as more about deploying capital into larger-scale copper projects given the current supply shortage there and the need for new mines to come online?

Speaker 3

Yes, absolutely. The large porphyry copper-gold systems we're observing within the high sulfidation epithermal systems from various diversified base metal producers represent a significant area of future growth, as they require billions of dollars in capital investment rather than just millions or hundreds of millions. Therefore, streaming will naturally play a role in the overall financing strategies. Additionally, there are still plenty of opportunities outside of that sphere. For instance, with commodity prices where they are, particularly silver, we’ve seen a positive trend that is encouraging many to reassess the value of silver in their existing portfolios. For the first time in a long while, we are encountering more silver opportunities that had not previously reached the market. We are really excited about that as well.

Operator

Your next question is from Josh Wolfson from RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker 8

I have a question regarding Spring Valley. Some of the technical details seem limited. I know there's a 2014 43-101 and a feasibility study from earlier this year, along with some interpretations provided by Wheaton about what the mine might look like. Could Wheaton elaborate on its views of the asset in relation to the assumptions or any changes in perspective compared to the updated feasibility study? Additionally, what should we expect regarding recoveries? I've noticed a significant difference between the original 2014 report and the recent one released this year.

Speaker 6

Sure, Josh. It's Neil Burns here. Waterton did put out a feasibility study earlier this year, which was done not surprisingly with much lower gold prices. I believe the reserve pit was done at $1,700 gold. If you look on Salobo's website, they've updated their R&R. And I believe the reserves are at $1,800 and the resources perhaps at $2,200. They do model the recoveries, and they have updated those. Those are detailed in the footnotes of those R&R tables, and they do them separately by the redox state of oxide transition and sulfide naturally with decreasing recoveries as you get into the sulfides. And they split it between the ROM and the crush. So I think that's a spot where you can get some additional color. And that was just updated, I believe, earlier this week.

Spring Valley is quite similar to many operations in Nevada. It's a heap leach operation that will include crushed materials and will always prioritize the highest grade portion extracted from the pit as well as run-of-mine material. One promising aspect of this asset is that, as Neil noted, the pricing for the reserves and resources is currently about half the spot price. The waste dump is located roughly the same distance from the pit as the heap leach pad. Therefore, the processing capacity for run-of-mine material and decisions regarding where to dump lower grade ore, which is still viable due to the spot price of $4,000, suggest significant potential for production beyond what Waterton has projected. The operation is straightforward; the highest grade material will be processed first, while the rest can either go to the waste dump or be added to the heap leach pad. The area is conducive to heap leaching, featuring ample flat space to the east of the ore body that allows for expansion. This project embodies a typical Nevada operation, and we are eager about its real potential. Additionally, as Neil mentioned, very little exploration has been done on this property. It is located just north of the successful Rochester operation and near Florida Canyon, positioning it within a historically rich mining corridor. We believe this asset is well-equipped to yield results.

Speaker 8

Got it. One more question. I know we've talked about some of the Nevada premiums that are out there. This might apply in that situation. When you look at the value opportunity here in the valuation paid, how would you assess this in comparison to some of the public consolidation opportunities that could be out there depending on prices, obviously?

Yes, regarding consolidation, my main observation is that many smaller companies have had to relinquish their structural weaknesses and flaws in their agreements to achieve scale. Recently, we've observed significant deals, such as those worth $1 billion without any security backing. This raises concerns about the value of certain assets within the mergers and acquisitions sector. We firmly believe that no stream compares to a Wheaton stream; we pioneered this model and are continually refining it. The Hemlo acquisition significantly advanced our ability to deliver value to both our shareholders and partners, balancing the needs of both. Most acquisition targets tend to trade at a premium to net asset value. In contrast, when seeking new assets, we often find opportunities at or slightly below net asset value, which remains appealing compared to equity financing or other financing alternatives for companies in need of capital. The team, led by Haytham and now Neil, has effectively reinvested capital by pursuing such opportunities. Spring Valley is an excellent example of this; it is located in a lower-risk jurisdiction and marks our first significant presence in Nevada, a region we have considered for some time, despite witnessing many costly transactions there. We believe this acquisition is attractively priced, particularly when considering the potential upside I have just mentioned. We're very enthusiastic about this opportunity and the direction we're heading. We continually assess the M&A landscape, and should we encounter worthwhile opportunities in that area, we would take action. However, at this time, we are finding more favorable value in pursuing new opportunities. Fortunately, we operate in an industry that consistently requires capital, which is our core business—providing that capital.

Operator

Your next question is from Tanya Jakusconek from Scotiabank.

Speaker 9

Some of them have been answered already. Maybe, Haytham, in considering the environment and the opportunities available, one of my questions was about silver. I think you touched on it briefly, and it seems like there is more happening in the silver sector than before. Are we seeing significant silver opportunities?

Speaker 3

That's interesting, Tanya. It's funny you asked that question. There are some larger silver opportunities that are out there, but we're being very proactive to go out and find those. With that, I'm going to turn the mic over to Neil to just tell you a little bit about the current environment for growth.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Haytham. Tanya, regarding volume, we remain very active, with over a dozen opportunities currently in the pipeline. It's noteworthy that we've observed an increase in operating opportunities, which is encouraging as it's been absent for several years. This rise is also linked to intensified M&A activities, as major players are divesting noncore assets. Concerning the metal mix, it's currently around 60% gold and 40% silver. Most of our opportunities fall within the $200 million to $300 million range, although we do have a few promising opportunities exceeding $1 billion, which will take longer to realize.

The one thing, Tanya, that I would add on the silver side, your question is specifically on silver. Keep in mind that most silver is produced as a byproduct, actually from base metal operations. And the one thing that we're hopeful is that with the strength that we've seen in silver prices of late that perhaps some of those base metal operators would like to crystallize some of that value and help strengthen their own balance sheets and fund their own growth. And so that does fall into an opportunity set with this strength that we've seen where we may be able to pick up some, as Neil said, some operating access to silver streams on operating assets. So we're out there pounding the pavement. And with these kinds of silver prices, there's definitely an interest in terms of learning more. So stay tuned.

Speaker 9

Yes, I've been hearing more about silver recently. I’ve come across some significant silver deals, around $1 billion, and I was curious if those are areas you're focusing on.

Yes. You know me well enough, Tanya, that I've always liked silver a little bit more than gold. So if there's opportunities in the space, we're definitely trying to track that down. Neil and the team are doing a great job on that front.

Speaker 9

And when you mentioned the $200 million to $300 million range, were those mainly on the gold opportunities?

Speaker 6

There is probably an even mixture between gold and silver within those $200 million to $300 million opportunities.

Speaker 9

Okay. And are you also seeing because I am hearing, and I don't know if that's the same, that there's probably more assets for sale within the senior gold companies than the market expects. We've seen Newmont sell out their Newcrest assets and Barrick's cleaned up their portfolio somewhat. But I'm hearing that there's also more coming out of the senior space than expected. Is that what you're seeing as well?

Speaker 3

I can address that, Tanya, regarding the divestiture of noncore assets from senior producers. We've definitely observed a significant amount of that activity over the past 12 to 18 months. Currently, the volume has decreased quite a bit. However, with changes in management teams and shifts in focus among various companies, we anticipate this trend will resume. Although we haven't seen much of it recently.

Speaker 9

Okay. So you're expecting more of that to come?

Speaker 3

We hope so. We'd love to be able to support another acquirer of some of these high-quality assets. Keep in mind, a lot of these assets when they were within these senior companies, they were being valued at a reserve base of, call it, Neil mentioned one $1,700, Barrick was doing theirs at $1,400 previously. You start using numbers of $2,100, $2,500, you go from a 6-year reserve life to a 20-year reserve life. So I think a lot of that is probably something we're going to see here in the near term.

Speaker 9

And just your Spring Valley acquisition, if you assume that all of the resources get converted and you can mine out 4 million ounces mineable, let's say, would it be fair to say at spot that you'd be in that sort of 4%, 5% internal rate of return, like in line with the cost of capital?

Speaker 3

Well, based on our analysis, I can tell you our numbers are higher than that based on exploration upside that we've seen, based on expansions in the existing pit dimensions, based on the higher/lower cutoff grades, we are getting a higher rate than what you're quoting there. I will leave it to you to figure out what your actual rate is based on how many years of additional exploration upside you want to add on top of that, but we're pretty optimistic that eventually this will get to double digits.

I will add, Tanya, that the resource is still limited. There's plenty of exploration potential, wide open mineralization. And so it's the drill data that's actually the limiting factor on the resource, not the economics.

Speaker 9

Yes. As I said, it's in the good camp. So those camps go on for a while. Maybe if I could ask just a modeling question. I saw the updated DD&A in the portfolio. Can someone just remind or reguide us on your depreciation and guidance for what you expect for 2025 and maybe 2026 with the new portfolio updates?

Sure. Tanya, it's Vince here. We did update our depletion on a normal course. Not a big change. Antamina, we saw a bit of a drop because they had some tailings lift there. Stillwater, a little bit higher just because of the change in mine plan. But all the detailed depletion rates, we've now put into the financials and in the MD&A. So you can see exactly what has happened there and help you out on the modeling front.

Speaker 9

All right. I forget what the guidance was corporately beginning of the year. But yes, I'll go back and...

I think net-net, it's not going to change materially going forward. So I would roughly say it's at the same levels going forward.

Speaker 9

Okay. And then my final question is maybe a reminder. I've seen a lot of the other companies sell out investment portfolios of equity interest. Can you just remind me what's left within yours?

Speaker 3

Yes. I don't have the list in front of me, but I can tell you that we currently have about a $260 million equity book. We're not looking to divest any of those positions. All of those are with our existing partners who are ramping up operations, and we will continue to support them. Eventually, there may be some liquidity events where we can exit our positions. But right now, we are focused on helping our partners strengthen their balance sheets.

Operator

Your next question is from Martin Pradier from Veritas Investment Research.

Speaker 10

In terms of Antamina, I noticed that the depreciation dropped in half almost. What happened there?

Speaker 6

On the depletion drop, yes. So that really is, as Vincent mentioned, it's because of the tailings expansion. So right now, Antamina marks their reserves with tailings capacity. And in Q1 this year, Antamina managed to secure the permits for further expansion of the current tailings facility, and that increased the reserves dramatically, which then drops that depletion rate down. So that's the reasoning behind that.

Essentially, what happened was the tailings capacity doubled, which meant that the depletion rate dropped because we had that much more reserve due to that excess capacity because with that tailings capacity, then you could class it as a reserve. And so the resource there is very, very high geological confidence, but Antamina's approach is that it's not a reserve until it actually has permitted tailings capacity. And so the fact that it went up just meant that we had a substantive increase in reserves, which means the depletion rate drops.

Speaker 10

Okay. Perfect. I understand. And in terms of Salobo, should we expect a strong Q4? I thought that there was like a little bit higher grade in Q4.

Speaker 3

Salobo is expected to remain stable in Q4. We have observed strong performance throughout this year, and during our visit at the end of September, it was clear that the team intends to maintain their current operations for the remainder of the year. Therefore, we anticipate stability for Q4.

I think they moved forward a little bit of preventative maintenance that was scheduled in Q4 into Q3. So that should help a little bit on the Q4 side. There was a short stint in Q3. So...

Operator

Your next question is from George from UBS.

Speaker 11

Nice update here again. Can I ask about the Spring Valley stream? And sorry, I joined a little bit late, so I may have missed this, but the payment profile can you remind me of the various conditions for the payment and the profile of timeline, please?

Speaker 3

Yes, definitely. I would say that from the total of $670 million, most of it will be invested during the development phase. There will be an initial investment of about $310 million over the next 6 to 12 months. The rest will be invested in conjunction with the company's equity investment, meaning we will contribute $120 million, and the company will match that with $120 million a couple of times until we reach the total of $670 million.

It's drip fed over construction other than a small amount ahead of construction starting just to get some equipment orders in and stuff like that, but it's drip fed over the construction, which is expected to start shortly.

Speaker 11

Yes, that's great. Regarding the upcoming asset opportunities, including the $870,000 GEO profile expected by 2029, do you think there could be some potential upside with new streams like Spring Valley, considering the current strong environment?

Yes. A number of our current operations and new projects have announced quicker timelines for start-ups and expansions. Blackwater is advancing with its expansions, Platreef has sped up its production ramp-up over the next five years, and Salobo is refining its throughput and recovery efforts. Even without any new acquisitions, our existing portfolio has made the forecast appear very conservative and brings us closer to reaching that 1 million ounce target sooner rather than later. Thank you, George, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Our record-breaking results over the first nine months of this year highlight Wheaton's status as a top low-risk option for investors looking to gain exposure to gold and silver. Recent deals in safe jurisdictions emphasize the quality of opportunities we are pursuing. Our corporate development team continues to observe strong interest in streaming as a capital source, and we are enthusiastic about the pipeline of opportunities ahead. With our high-quality operating portfolio, 100% streaming revenue, leading growth profile, and strong commitment to sustainability, we provide shareholders with an effective means to invest in precious metals. We appreciate all our stakeholders for their continued support as we embark on this exciting phase of sustained organic growth. We look forward to speaking with you all again soon. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for participating. Please disconnect your lines.