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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for ZEP Health Corporation's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Today's conference call is being recorded. I will now hand the call over to your host, Ms. Grace Zang, Director of Investor Relations for the company.
Please go ahead, Grace. hello everyone and welcome to zap house corporation's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call the company's financial and operating results were issued in a press release that the newswire services earlier today and are posted online you can also view the earnings press release and slides referred to on this call by visiting the ir section of the company's website at IR.com. Participating in today's call are Mr. Wang Huang, our Chairman of the Board of Directors and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Leong Deng, our Chief Financial Officer. The company's management will begin with prepared remarks, and the call will conclude with the Q&A session. Mr. Mike Yang, our Chief Operating Officer, will join us for the Q&A session. Before we continue, please note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, the company's actual results may be materially different from the views expressed today. Further information regarding this and other risks and uncertainties are included in the company's annual report on Form 20F for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2024, and other filings as filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The company does not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable law. Please also note that ZEP's earnings press release and this conference call include discussions of unaudited GAAP financial information as well as unaudited non-GAAP financial information. ZEP's press release contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP measures to the unaudited most directly comparable GAAP measures. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Mr. Wen-Wang Hwang. Please go ahead.
Thank you all for joining us today. I'm delighted to report that Zapp Health delivered another exceptional quarter with revenue grew 78.5% year-over-year, underscoring the ongoing effectiveness of our strategic brand and product evolution. We also turned our cash balance from outflow to inflow, a critical operational milestone. These results, once again, validate the strength of our strategy, the competitiveness of our products, and the growing global recognition of the amazing brand. Our exceptional Q3 performance were fueled by our well-executed multi-tier product strategy, which grows consistent growth margin, grows quarter over quarter. in september we launched in september we launched our flagship amazfit tx3 pro which was well received by users and endurance outdoor community with enhanced durability advanced navigation and outdoor safety features setting new premium outdoor benchmarks our earlier launch balance tool and helo shaft continued performing well offering advanced analysis and better usability for daily training entry level lines maintain steady sales across key global channels underscoring amazing strong positioning across consumer segments Our growth margin continued to expand sequentially, growing from 36.2% to 38%, thanks to effective mix management and strong ongoing execution of our margin improvement initiatives that began in late 2023. Operating expenses remain prudent as we balance continued investment in RMD with selective marketing spending to support brand visibility. These improvements demonstrate our commitment to operational discipline while maintaining innovation momentum, on which Leon will provide more details later. The Amazfit T-REX-3 Pro's launch was the highlight of the quarter, designed for endurance athletes and outdoor adventures the new model introduces key upgrades that average the user experience such as enhanced durability advanced navigation and improved outdoor safety feature providing exceptional precision and reliability in challenging terrain the model made is global debuts during UTMB race week in some morning where Amnesty ambassadors and elite chain runners use the watch for real-time checking and recovery optimization notably loose croft and first place in the us utmb 2025 women's division marking a historic win and powerful validation of our product performance beyond hardware the 2x3 lineup continue to evolve through firmware upgrades that add new hydrox training most verging training and competition into one integrated experience our balance tube anterior shaft representing the perfect synergy of advanced analytics and everyday usability continued to perform strongly following their Q2 debuts during the quarter. Balance 2 updates introduced new training modes, including HIROX, PFT, and Ultramanathol, Improved data visualization, plug-ins, cycling speedometer connectivity, and refined UI features such as one-tap display and optimized digital quality back. Our entry-level bitfix and active tool series continue to contribute stable volume across key global channels, maintaining strong sell-through performance and solidifying amazing position across diverse user tiers. Beyond hardware, we advanced our technology ecosystem on multiple fronts. A major milestone this quarter was ZebHell's acquisition of core assets from Wired AI, a pioneering woman's wellness platform. Wide AI uses hormone-informed analytics to optimize performance, recovery, and nutrition across all stages of a woman's life. Integrating these capabilities into our ecosystem will enable Amisfit to deliver more personalized physiology-aware coaching experiences to female athletes, while maintaining compatibility with third-party wearables. We also continue to integrate ZappOS and ZappFro. Building on the advances of ZappOS 5.0, we enhance AI-driven training insights and expand our integration with platforms like Strava and TrainingPeaks, offering users more connected and data-rich performance feedback. These improvements also powered the latest firmware updates across Balance 2 and TDEX 3. In addition, the long-awaited BioCharge feature upgrades has arrived on Balance 2, integrating synchronized biometric data streams to capture to capture plates your energy levels through the day bio charge is a personalized body energy management feature that continuously analysis your energy levels by integrating data from your nighttime sleep, daytime naps, exertion, and SHAS indicators. Separately, we are proud to share that Amazfit received the RED, Network Security MB Certificate, from SDS. This recognition reflects our commitment to user privacy, product safety, and international compliance, further strengthening global consumer trust in our products. Our athlete and community initiatives continue to strengthen Amazfit brand equity worldwide. athletes are now contributing to our product development process ensuring that our sports watches are designed by athletes for athletes in japan we proudly welcome otah oi as amazing first Japanese brand ambassador furthermore we continue to expand our presence in major global and region regional sports communities during the quarter we strengthened our presence in global and regional sports communities through continued partnerships with Hyros. We expanded our Hyros athletes roster welcoming returning athlete Hunter McIntyre alongside new competitors. This expansion underscores our commitment to supporting both established champions and emerging talents in functional fitness racing while integrating athlete insights into product development additionally we participate in the high ross beijing event engaging local fitness communities and reinforcing our brand's global empowerment of athletes over the past several years that health has completed a structural transformation of both its product and profit model our brand has also been significantly strengthened and reshaped with a clear positioning as a sports and performance technology brand today our portfolio covers average year from entry to premium with healthy profit margins and distinct positioning our high-end offerings the 2x3 pro has delivered strong performance proving robust market acceptance for our premium line meanwhile our balance active and bit lines continue to deliver steady growth across global channels alongside this our expanding Helio ecosystem featuring Helio rain Helios job and future Helio innovations has built a strong and scalable framework that supports our long-term competitiveness and sustainable growth this solid foundation provides us strong confidence heading into the fourth quarter and 2026 as we continue to execute on our strategy and deliver lasting value to both users and shareholders. Entering the final quarter of 2025, we are confident in our continued growth supported by a strong product pipeline, margin improvement initiative, and discipline execution. Despite a challenging macroeconomy environment, our strategic focus on sports tech and our holistic health ecosystem is delivering earlier results. We anticipate Q4 revenue to be between $82 million and $86 million, delivering 38% to 45% year-over-year growth. This growth reinforces our optimism in sustaining top-line momentum and achieving greater operating leverage. What continues to fuel our success is our dual commitment, creating long-term value for shareholders and empowering users through innovative technology. Thank you for your trust and support. I will now turn the call over to Leo to go over the highlights of our third quarter financial results.
Thank you, Wei-Yuan. Greetings, everyone. Thank you again for joining our third quarter 2025 earnings call. The macroeconomic landscape has had some impact on our Q3 performance. On the tariff front, the situation has remained stable, and we have made the necessary short-term adjustments to our business model. Moving forward, we're focused on long-term structural supply chain optimizations. Additionally, we have increased inventory in key product lines to meet strong customer demand and mitigate potential tariff-related risks, which explains the slight increase in our inventory levels this quarter. Regarding memory chips, we have seen prices more than doubled this year due to supply constraints and increased demand, especially in the AI sector. While memory chips represent a relatively small part of our overall bill of materials, We have secured supply at a favorable pricing to mitigate the impact. We'll continue to monitor market conditions and adjust our plans accordingly. Now, let's turn to financials. In the third quarter of 2025, our revenue increased 78.5% year-over-year to $75.8 million, meeting the upper end of our previous guidance as Amazfit branded ecosystem continued to gain traction. Echo to weigh-in, this performance represents strong market receptions for the T-Rex 3 Pro launched in September, as well as continued strength from Balance 2 and Helio stripe, both introduced in the second quarter. In addition, the sustained popularity of our entry models, including BIP-6 and ACTIV-2, provided steady sales volume. These positives were partially offset by heliostripe supply constraints and typhoon-related shipment delays late in the quarter. Looking ahead, we have just started selling of our t-rex 3 pro 44 millimeter version on october 25th and together with our upcoming new product launches we expect the top line expansion continues into the holiday season turning to gross margin it was influenced by various factors including product mix product launch timing, and product life cycles, such as model upgrades. In the third quarter, we reported a gross margin of 38.2%, or 39.4%, excluding the impact of tariffs. This represents a 2.4% decrease compared to 40.6% in Q3 2024. The year-over-year decline was primarily driven by three factors related to our entry-level products. First, these products were priced lower than the previous generation to drive revenue growth, which resulted in a lower margin. Second, prime-day discounts were applied to expand our customer base, further impacting margins. Third, as a part of our annual product cycle refreshment cycle, the current entry-level models are nearing the end of their life cycle and were offered at a promotion prices. Despite these factors, the T-Rex product line showed strong margin performance, with the launch of the T-Rex 3 Pro in September helping to offset the impact of prime-day discounts on the TRF3. Sequentially, gross margin improved by 2% compared to Q2 2025, driven by a higher contribution from the new product and a more favorable product mix. This was partially offset by promotions on entry-level products, as well as the impact of front-loaded shipments ahead of the U.S. tariffs on China manufactured goods. We remain on track with our margin expansion strategy initiated in the second half of 2023 and expect further progress as new product launches gain scale. Let's turn to costs. We remain committed to prudent cost management, continuing the program we began in Q3 2020 to reduce overall operating costs. Adjusted operating expenses for the third quarter totaled $28.6 million and 37.7% of sales, compared to $28.6 million and 67.3% of sales in the third quarter of 2024, and $26.4 million and 44.4% of sales in the previous quarter. It remains stable compared with last year. The $2.2 million quarter-over-quarter increase was primarily driven by foreign exchange rate fluctuations. However, by maintaining a cost-conscious approach, we're moving towards a run rate of approximately $25 million per quarter for operating costs. Concurrently, we remain committed to investing in R&D and marketing activities to ensure our long-term competitiveness. Adjusted R&D expenses in the third quarter of 2025 were U.S. dollars $10.2 million, increased by 1.5% year-over-year, and remained stable quarter-over-quarter. At the same time, we focused on refined R&D approaches as we consistently evaluated resource efficiency to ensure maximum return on investment and productivity. Adjusted selling and marketing expenses were $11.9 million in the third quarter of 2025, increased by 0.5% year-over-year, and decreased by 1% quarter-over-quarter. This year-over-year increase was primarily due to front-loaded brand and channel investments ahead of the holiday season. We also expanded the Amazfit Athletes Rooster by signing several new athletes during the quarter, including, among others, elite trial runners Ruth Croft, as well as Marathoner Otaoi, Amazfit's first Japanese brand ambassador, to further elevate our brand recognition. At the same time, we consistently pushed on retail profitability and channel mix improvement. We're committed in investing efficiently in marketing and branding to ensure our sustainable growth. Meanwhile, adjusted G&A expenses were $6.5 million in the third quarter of 2025, flat year-over-year, and with a modest sequential increase from the second quarter of 2025, primarily reflecting normal foreign exchange fluctuations. Excluding these effects, G&A expenses will remain stable and slightly lower over the past three quarters as we continue to streamline overhead, maintaining disciplined cost control while improving operating efficiency. As a result, we achieved operating break-even in the third quarter of 2025, a significant improvement versus Q3 2024 when adjusted operating loss was $11.3 million. This marks a key milestone in our path to sustained profitability, and we expect to be operational profitable in the fourth quarter of 2025. As of September 30, our cash balance stood at $103 million compared with $95 million in Q2 2025. Inventory levels increased slightly during the quarter as the company strategically built up stock in key product lines to prepare for upcoming product launches and Q4 consumer electronics peak season. Cash balance increased or primarily driven by improved working capital and enhanced operational efficiency. We expect the cash balance to continue to grow in Q4 2025. In terms of capital structure, the overall long-term and short-term debt levels remained consistent following the restructuring we completed during the first quarter. We refinanced a significant portion of our short-term debt into long-term instruments with a more favorable interest rate and a two-year duration, which significantly reduced near-term liquidity pressure and enhanced our overall capital structure. Since beginning of 2023, the company has cumulatively retired $64.5 million of debt. Going forward, we'll continue to optimize the capital structure for the company. We maintained our commitment to our share-by-back program, underscoring our confidence in depth health's long-term fundamentals and growth trajectory, and our focus on delivering values for shareholders. Finally, our outlook for the fourth quarter of 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $82 million to $86 million, representing a 38% to 45% year-over-year growth compared to $59.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. We are thrilled to move into the next stage of our growth, building on our positive momentum heading into Q4 and 2026. Thank you all for your time for today. I will now open the call for questions. Operator, please go ahead.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star 2. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question. Your first question comes from Sid Rajiv with Fundamental Research Corps.
Hi, congratulations on another strong quarter. I have a few minor questions. The press release mentions supply constraints on the Helio strap. Do you mind giving more color on this?
Yes, I mean, I have mentioned the issue has a few folds. Number one is there's a memory chip issue which impacts the whole industry, and the lead time for those is actually getting quite long if we want to secure enough quantity of that. Obviously, HelioStripe is a very popular product, well received by the consumers and customers all over the world. So we have a shortage, in essence, in every region which we operate. So it's more constrained by the supply volume rather than the demand. And then the other thing is we also have encountered a few things like the typhoon in the southern east China area towards the quarter end, which also put the already constrained situation a little bit more tight. So I think that's the situation we have around the failure strike. But we're actually working towards resolving those. So you will see that situation improving in Q4 and into Q1.
Okay. And you don't give segmented revenues by region. But just to get an idea regarding the impact of tariffs, would you say North America still accounts for approximately 15% of total shipments?
I think so. I think it's around 15% to 20%, but we have actually communicated our dual-sourcing strategy whereby we supply the majority of the products in the USA from Vietnam, right? So, the tariff impact on that is relatively small, if not 2-0. Thank you, Leon.
And with respect to product launches, was the T-Rex Pro the only product launched last quarter?
Can you give us some numbers, how many launched last quarter, how many expected in Q4? uh yeah i think i can give you the the the the the the number for q3 for q4 unfortunately i couldn't tell more uh about it but i think what you can see is that yes indeed in q3 uh from a new products perspective um there's only um t-rex 3 pro both uh and only the 48 mini mini version which we launched during the IFA and the UTMB in September. So that's in Q3, the only new product which we launched. But then on the other hand, HelioStripe and the Balance 2 were launched in June. So those two products also actually have been sold for the whole quarter of Q3. And if you look at Q4, the first one is the TRX3 Pro 44-millimeter version, which we start selling on October 25th, right? And then with regard to the new ones, I think you just have to be patient, and you will get to know those in due course.
Thank you so much, Leon, and again, congratulations. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Dylan Chu with Point72HK.
Hey, thanks. Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions, and congrats on the pre-corder. Two questions on my side. Number one, just around new product momentum and holiday sales as we related to that Q4 guide. Would you please give us a bit more color on the TR3 Pro launch, as well as the 44-millimeter initial feedback so far? How would you compare that versus, for example, TR3? And what's your current view on the holiday season demand signals? What's your overall plan for the holiday season? As we're related to that, given the strong new product pipeline, as well as the supply chain improvement you mentioned, and we can see on the balance of your activity building of this inventory, is there any reason to be actual conservative in terms of follow-up guide? Because this year, the Q&Q guide implies a right to lower growth compared to historical patents. So this is my first question.
Thank you, Dylan. it's a long question let me try to uh answer it one by one right so first on the holiday season cells i think in so far the signal we have received is quite positive right um and uh and and that also translates into the guidance which we guide and then if you look at how we guide i mean Obviously, we're a little bit prudent in guiding the numbers. And then on Q2, we guided 72 to 76, and then we delivered 75.8, right? So I think Q4, obviously, given the demand situation, we see there's definitely a good demand for our new products, both on the Helios stripe and also for the T-Rex 3. right um and then to answer the second part of your question t-rex 3 pro actually received quite good feedback both on the 48 millimeter versions and 44 millimeter versions unfortunately i don't have enough uh data points to tell a trend because in so far 44 millimeter version is only being sold for a week and the majority of that is in china and i think we have seen that the activation has been uh performing on a day-to-day basis increasing but then on t-rex 3 pro 48 millimeter version i i think i can say a few more things on that so starting from the launch day until today the trend we have seen is that it's actually performing very well and actually to some extent even better than the the the similar performance of t3 when we launched that product one one year earlier and to some extent if you but which is a fantastic achievement because bear in mind that T-Rex 3 compared with T-Rex 3 Pro is only half the price of T-Rex 3 Pro, right? So I would say that is actually a good trend for us to start with. And obviously, we're going to continue that momentum into Q4 and into the holiday seasons.
I think that should give you a color for the holiday season and how you look at the different product categories performing in the upcoming month got it yeah thanks so much we are second question from your channel strategy to know into 26 and beyond you know there seems to be significant amount of white space, both online and offline, in terms of channel opportunities. We can see recently the brand.com traffic has sort of increased quite a bit, and, you know, the offline presence continued to expand a little bit. So could you please give us a bit more color in terms of how you want to grow your channel reach in 2024 and next year? Just any thoughts around the low-income foods and your focus channels would be helpful.
Yeah, it's a good question. So what we noticed is that in the past quarters, our online presence and also the channel online is actually growing very fast. To some extent, even outpaced the growth we see on the offline channels, right? Because traditionally, we were very strong on offline channels. And now you see that Amazon and our own .com website is actually growing very fast. And maybe it also has something to do with the strategy which we had to go premium, whereby most of the products, if you see, which are performing very well, Our T-Rex 3, T-Rex 3 Pro, Balance 2, those are about $300 products, right? So I think looking into the next year and the next quarter, obviously the online part will continue to play a significant role in our growth trajectory because Amazon and also our .com website still have a lot of potential to perform next year versus this year. We see a lot of demand and push from Amazon, and a lot of aggressive plans have been built up as we speak. So I think, number one, trend is definitely online, and online will continue to grow. We haven't seen the ceiling yet, so that trend for sure will definitely continue. On the other hand is the offline channel. What you noticed or maybe that kind of explained why we were a little bit more prudent or conservative on the numbers we guide is that we have some supply constraints, for example, on heliostripe. And we also have issues when we launch the first batch of the new products. We try to prioritize online than offline. Obviously, we want these products to be seen by online users first before it goes to mainstream and it goes into the channels like Best Buy and Target. right and if we which means there's still a lot of potential to date on the offline channels well we have enough supply of our products for example on t3 pro the and on helio stripe the moment we resolve the supply issue we will definitely push for a bigger reach in the offline channels um uh for next year so so i think the in in essence both we we see uh big opportunities both on online and offline and obviously if we drive a bigger growth on offline online that will give a a better gross margin uh portfolio versus the offline channel right so i think that's how should look at the the the channel mix going forward and I hope that gives you a feeling for for such a picture how we are going to involve in the in the upcoming quarters got it thank you very much yeah that's all my questions thank
you your next question comes from you and zoo with Gong Z securities good evening management thank you for taking my questions and congratulations on your results. I have two questions. The first relates to your outlook for Q4 regarding your top-line guidance. What are your underlying assumptions for price growth and volume growth? And what's your approach to discounting during this period? And also could management share if any marketing initiatives are planned for Q4?
How should we think about trajectory of sales and marketing expenses next quarter thank you okay um so let me try to uh answer your question one by one right number one is on the outlook for q4 uh it's the guidance which we put forward but i as i just mentioned um we we try to uh we always try to be prudent on our guidance and then you can you can look at this through the Q2 guidance and realization of that and on the assumptions obviously we have assumed that number one cute Q4 would be a good holiday season and which by definition Q4 is the highest quarter of the of the year whereby people buy presents for the holiday seasons, right? And we tried to pull the average ASP up, which you see that we try to do that quarter over quarter, right? And together with the launch of the balance 2 which is at the price of 300 or so and then on t-rex 3 pro which is close to 400 right we're actually with the launch of these products obviously we're trying to to increase the price improve the gross margin and then that would drive the gross margin growth further in Q4, which you already witnessed in the margin performance between Q3 and Q2, which we grow 2%. And obviously, we're expecting the margin to further expand in Q4. But then it will be offset a little bit by the discounting and promotional events because, yeah, unfortunately, Certainly, everybody is doing that, so we probably have to do some of that, but we will try to do it selectively and then try to target on certain consumers and certain product group rather than on everything, right? And we'll try to look at the return on investment if we're going to do any discount at all. now from a marketing investment perspective i think what you see is that we are quite flat on the marketing expenses in the past quarters so i think it always hovers around 10 11 million per quarter and that is also what we try to do in q4 because as i explained many times we believe that we can number one we're going to visit on every single thing which we're going to invest if it doesn't carry a good ROI we're not going to do that right number two if there's an opportunity and you see that whenever there's opportunity we front load marketing expenses to trade for a higher growth. That's what we did in Q3. And then if there's such an opportunity in Q4, for sure we'll do such a thing like that. Because we still believe that growth and gaining market share is the most important thing which we need to do at the current point of time. um so i think if my memory is right i think that should cover all the questions you just raised uh if i but but remind me if i miss anything yes thank you it's very clear thank you so much and my second question is on the product roadmap just to follow up will there be any other a new product launch this year and if we look further ahead could management share your plans for product iteration next year and are there any plans to expand the lineup further perhaps with the running smartwatch or smart rings and where the pace of new product launch become more intensive next year thank you yeah no so I think I have answered the product the new product question just now I think it was coming from Sid or it's from coming from Dylan I cannot remember but if you look at Q3 we have launched T3 Pro and in Q4 we start selling the 44 millimeter version just a few days ago, right? So that's for sure one of the new products in Q4. And then there's going to be a few new products which we have in the pipeline for this quarter as well, but then I cannot say too much about it. So I will just stop at there for Q4. And then on next year, I think what I have explained to you maybe a few times this year as well is that we have maintained this cadence of every quarter we have two or three new products launches for the quarter. And then normally it starts with Q1, whereby we refresh the entry-level lines. And Q2, we start with the more Apple and Samsung challenger line. And then in Q3, we look at more the T-Rex and the sports line, et cetera, et cetera. So I think next year we'll have a similar pace and quantity of products compared to this year. So I think that's something to just give you a feeling of that. But with regard to what product, which products, I think I would ask you to be patient and wait until the moment we launch those products. but I can guarantee you it's going to be an exciting product.
All right. Thank you, Leon. That's very helpful. I have no more questions.
Thank you.
As there are no further questions, now I'd like to turn the call back over to the company's IR director, Grace Ng, for closing comments.
Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact the Debt Investor Relations Department through the contact information provided on our website. Thank you.